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The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:07 pm
Right, a nice topical one for you.
Imagine that FIFA decided that we had to compete as Team GB in the World Cup. I want you to select a Team GB squad, which is a hybrid of World Cup and Olympic requirements.
You will select a 23 man squad to compete for Team GB at Brazil 2014. That team must be made up of U23s at the time of the tournament (U23 = born on or after 1st June 1991), with 3 over-age players allowed.
Your squad must contain a minimum of 3 players from each of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
You will then select a starting XI from that squad, which in turn must include 1 player from each national association.
I want you to report to me your squad, your starting XI and a set of tactics to suit that team. I would also like you to select a manager and assistant.
You should provide details on why you chose those particular overage players, and also why you chose your manager and assistant. Please submit on this page by 3pm on Friday 3rd August
Teams will be:
Twist
Viva
Sodhat
Nando
OTW
Olly
Imagine that FIFA decided that we had to compete as Team GB in the World Cup. I want you to select a Team GB squad, which is a hybrid of World Cup and Olympic requirements.
You will select a 23 man squad to compete for Team GB at Brazil 2014. That team must be made up of U23s at the time of the tournament (U23 = born on or after 1st June 1991), with 3 over-age players allowed.
Your squad must contain a minimum of 3 players from each of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland.
You will then select a starting XI from that squad, which in turn must include 1 player from each national association.
I want you to report to me your squad, your starting XI and a set of tactics to suit that team. I would also like you to select a manager and assistant.
You should provide details on why you chose those particular overage players, and also why you chose your manager and assistant. Please submit on this page by 3pm on Friday 3rd August
Teams will be:
Twist
Viva
Sodhat
Nando
OTW
Olly
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:21 pm
Love it. Nice task. 
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:22 pm
Sounds like a cool task
So Gareth Bale (born 16th July 1989) would have to be a over 23 player right? Just an example
So Gareth Bale (born 16th July 1989) would have to be a over 23 player right? Just an example
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:27 pm
Olly - yes Bale is an over 23 on that basis (I'm assuming that is his correct DOB).
Twist - that is for you to decide between your teammates this time around
Twist - that is for you to decide between your teammates this time around
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:28 pm
BigFellasAfro wrote:Olly - yes Bale is an over 23 on that basis (I'm assuming that is his correct DOB).
Twist - that is for you to decide between your teammates this time around
I dunno I was going off Wiki
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Fernando Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:33 pm
who wants to be boss on our side and where is otw anyway?
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:35 pm
Fernando wrote:who wants to be boss on our side and where is otw anyway?
I don't mind who runs our side. We have 3 guys all capable. I haven't seen OTW for a day now. Especially on his league. Lets wait to make our decision before he comes I reckon
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Fernando Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:45 pm
fair enough you try put bale in the squad and ill kill you 
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by FIFA Diva Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:53 pm
Thats 2 years away, won't the players be 2 years older then?
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Mon 30 Jul 2012, 3:57 pm
In most age limited FIFA sanctioned tournaments, the age limit applies at the beginning of the competition. So the U21 limit applies at the start of qualifying and in a lot of cases, they are fast approaching 23 by the time of the finals tournament.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Mon 30 Jul 2012, 4:19 pm
You will select a 23 man squad to compete for Team GB at Brazil 2014. That team must be made up of U23s (U23 = born on or after 1st August 1989), with 3 over-age players allowed.
Hang on though....doesn't that mean that they will be 25, as Viva said? So surely the date should be August 1st 1991 so that they will be U23 by the time the tournament happens
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Mon 30 Jul 2012, 4:28 pm
Its the world cup, so the tournament starts with qualifying on 1st August. That is where I picked the date at.
In truth it's all hypothetical isn't it as its a Team GB side in the 2014 World Cup. I had to pick a date for the age limit to apply.
I can easily change it to U21s, or to 1991 if thats what you want.
In truth it's all hypothetical isn't it as its a Team GB side in the 2014 World Cup. I had to pick a date for the age limit to apply.
I can easily change it to U21s, or to 1991 if thats what you want.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Mon 30 Jul 2012, 4:30 pm
No its fine. If we are agree that it is players born after August 1st 1989 then we all know what is expected. Just wanted to clarify.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Mon 30 Jul 2012, 4:47 pm
1st August 1991 would present more of a challenge 
I'm going to change it. Thanks for the feedback.
I'm going to change it. Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Mon 30 Jul 2012, 4:48 pm
Changed it to 1st June 1991 to reflect the month of the 2014 World Cup
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Mon 30 Jul 2012, 4:51 pm
Viva....Soddy.....let's go. To be honest I don't really think we need a TM. If we lose the task, then all 3 of us will go into the boardroom anyway.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by sodhat Mon 30 Jul 2012, 4:52 pm
We still need a lead member I think. Have you been a PM yet? If not then I say go for it mate.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Mon 30 Jul 2012, 5:02 pm
Ok.....just to get the ball moving
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 30 Jul 2012, 6:04 pm
Right Nando who do you reckon should be our team manager?
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Thu 02 Aug 2012, 2:08 pm
Apprentice Week 4: Team GB for the World Cup
Team WTF Proposal
Team WTF Proposal
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Team GB Squad for 2014 World Cup
1. Jack Butland (England) - GK
2. Jed Steer (England) - GK
3. Lee Nicholls (England) - GK
4. Jon Flanagan (England) - RB
5. Adam Matthews (Wales) - RB
6. Danny Wilson (Scotland) - CB
7. Jonny Evans (N. Ireland) - CB (OVERAGE PLAYER)
8. Grant Hanley (Scotland) - CB
9. Phil Jones (England) - CB/CDM
10. Jack Robinson (England) - LB
11. Carl Jenkinson (England) - LB
12. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (England) - RM
13. Josh Carson (N. Ireland) - RM
14. Jack Wilshere (England) - CM
15. Fraser Fyvie (Scotland) - CM
16. Ross Barkey (England) - CM
17. Jonathan Williams (Wales) - AM
18. Shane Ferguson (N.Ireland) - LM
19. Gareth Bale (Wales) - LM (OVERAGE PLAYER)
20. Nick Powell - (England) AM/ST
21. Jake Cassidy (Wales) - ST
22. Wayne Rooney (England) - ST (OVERAGE PLAYER)
23. Connor Wickham (England) – ST
Tactics and formation for Great Britain XI
1. Jack Butland (England) - GK
4. Jon Flanagan (England) - RB
7. Jonny Evans (N. Ireland) - CB (OVERAGE PLAYER)
8. Grant Hanley (Scotland) - CB
11. Carl Jenkinson (England) - LB
12. Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (England) – RM
16. Ross Barkey (England) - CM
9. Phil Jones (England) - CB/CDM
14. Jack Wilshere (England) - CM
19. Gareth Bale (Wales) - LM (OVERAGE PLAYER)
22. Wayne Rooney (England) - ST (OVERAGE PLAYER) CAPTAIN
We have finally come up with our G.B first eleven, this team is engineered to be flexible but also to retain their shape. We have gone for a strong all round side rather then lopsided in certain positions. We know that during a Football match you may have to change tactics during a match and the players we have at our disposal I am confident that they can adapt to different situations while still playing at their absolute maximum.
We have come up with two styles of formation one for attacking which is a 4-3-3 and the other when defending is a 4-1-4-1. We will explain below on how we look to use the styles of play and how we want the players to execute the system.
We will start of how we will play in the attacking 4-3-3 formation.
--------------------------------Butland------------------------------
Flanagan------------Hanley----------------Evans------------Jenkinson
---------------------------------Jones-------------------------------
-------------------------Barkley---------Wilshere---------------------
--------Oxlade------------------Rooney-----------------Bale---------
General
When our team is on the attack we’ll be playing a high speed 4-3-3 with the wide men getting forward and depending on what side we’re attacking from the opposite wide man will come inside to support Rooney. With this formation the players will naturally push up and our three in midfield will have the room to play their passing game.
Defence
In this formation our defenders will be pushing up ensuring that the opposition strikers are forced back, Jones will be infront of them to offer protection incase the opposition try to hit it long he’ll pick up someone giving the CB time to drop back. The two fullbacks will play slightly forward of the CB giving us that edge going forward but only one will be going forward while the other only pushes up to half way line. I want the defenders to get the ball out of their area quickly so the midfield trio always have to make themselves available. Evans will pick up the opposition main striker while Hanley will play as the less dominate partner and pick up the other striker at times strikers move around and they’ll have to pick up the one closer to them.
Midfield
We’ve gone for these three in midfield because they compliment each other very well, Jones naturally more defensive then the other two will play as the steel sitting behind them, closing down harrying the opposition, a very powerful player who will give us the combativeness, in terms of ball retention we want him to keep it simple, short safe passes. Wilshere and Barkley will work as the unit just ahead of him both taking turns to get forward to help attack and dropping back to support the defensive side. Both of these lads have a good eye for a pass so we won’t be suffocated of creativity, we want them to go forward with the ball and look for the wide players. Play amongst each other passing the ball to quicken up tempo or slowing it down if we’re winning.
Attack
Rooney is the focus point here, while in this role we want him to play as the predator striker, making runs between the two CB and getting inside the box waiting for delivery from the wide men, we want him to play the touch and go system always on the move and less of the holding on to the ball. Bale is a very strong runner and is similar to Uniteds Valencia in getting consistent balls into the box for the strikers to attack and I want to see him do the same here. Use his natural power and pace and get the balls into the box. If the opposition defence push up we want Oxlade and Bale to make runs beyond them as it will be hard to catch them at full flow. With Oxlade he should mix up his style, run at the opposition at times and other look to pass and move keep them guessing.
Now we’ll explain on how we will play without the ball in our 4-1-4-1 formation.
--------------------------------Butland------------------------------
Flanagan------------Hanley----------------Evans------------Jenkinson
---------------------------------Jones-------------------------------
Oxlade--------------Barkley----------------Wilshere---------------Bale
--------------------------------Rooney-------------------------------
General
When we are defending the team has been set up to play more compact with the wingers dropping off Rooney and playing alongside Wilshere and Barkley, behind them Jones will play as the anchor picking up anyone who gets beyond our midfield or if the opposition deploy a specialist SS/AM. The fullbacks will drop back making it harder for the opposition to get in behind us, the midfield is congested on purpose so we slow them down.
Defence
The fullbacks will be less adventures as we don’t want to leave any gaps at the back, the main focus for them is to play as a 4 man unit, playing tight and compact. The CBs will be a little deeper then normal this is to stop the opposition getting in behind us and making them play infront of us. I don’t want my defenders to lose their positional sense by running after the ball leaving us exposed. This set up is to frustrate them and hit the ball long.
Midfield
Oxlade and Bale will drop back playing alongside Wilshere and Barkley in a four man midfield, they will have to track back helping out our fullbacks picking up the opposition fullback or whoever is the freeman out wide, look to jockey and contain him pushing him backwards. Wilshere and Barkley watch runners and shadow the midfielders and putting in tackles when need to. Jones will play as the spareman picking up anyone who is free and helping out defenders or to plug gaps.
Attack
We want Rooney to put pressure on the DM of the opposition if we can stop them getting the ball it will slow down and stop their attacks. When Rooney gets the ball we want him to hold on to it waiting for support from our players. Bale and Oxlade are very quick so a long ball over the top for them to latch on to could work or if we want to keep possession use Wilshere or Barkley.
Overage players
Wayne Rooney
Would Argentina leave out Messi? Portugal drop Ronaldo? Netherlands axe Van Persie? The answer to this would be no, so why would we leave out our best player. Wayne Rooney is a game changer and to be frank we don't have many players that can win a game like Rooney does.
We scouted long and hard in the strikers department and we felt that unlike the other positions this was probably our weakest position. Goals win games and Rooney is the best man for that.
We understand that the way our team is set up and the players we have in our XI, Rooney would be best suited to play in that team and would benefit more then any other striker to play our way. We have two wide men in Bale and Oxo who can deliver the ball well and Rooney is an expert in heading as we all know. The pace of our wingers means that we will attack on the counter at times and we need someone who can keep up with them. Rooney is very flexible in his style of play and brings players into attack with his one touch passing, flicks, and general link up play.
Jonny Evans
Evans was born in Belfast and came through the youth ranks of Manchester United making a first team debut in 2007 there, following spells with Sunderland and feeder club Antwerp.
He has been spoken of as being United's best defender in the past season and will look to solidify his place at the heart of their defense in the coming year as they fight on four fronts again.
The centre half has represented his country 29 times and has played in numerous big matches with Manchester United - his mentality for the big games can not be questioned. His experience will be invaluable to us, and even though his age of 26 will not be much greater than the rest of his team, he will be an influential voice considering his experience now and where it should be come 2014.
Having played against the best strikers in world football on many occasions, we expect Jonny to slot into our team with ease and to contribute to our World Cup campaign.
Gareth Bale
With our team set up to be one filled with pace, Bale was a obvious choice to play on the left. Prolific for his club for the last two seasons, he is also Wales' best player.
On his day, he is able to unlock defences with blistering pace and give fullbacks a nightmare. His crossing ability will help our strike force fulfil its fullest potential.
Eager to appear on the world stage, he was stopped from entering the Olympics due to injury. We feel he would have a point to prove to those doubting his creditials, and would become a key member in our push to win the World Cup.
Manager and Assistant
Manager: Roy Hodgeson
With the World Cup team being one made up of GB players, the England national team boss would have had a quiet summer. England themselves would obviously not appear as a team in the World Cup as well. Therefore, Roy would be available and, as he has shown in the past, be happy to step into the breach. We believe bringing in a new manager would have an negative impact and provide too much change in a experimental side that needs sound leadership.
Roy's credentials are second to none. A manager known for his tactical ability and a history of leading weak teams on paper to success. One of the GB's team main problem is inexperience, so an experienced international manager is a must. Roy would quickly get the best out of the players, and has already worked with some of them before in the England set-up. We are confident that he is the right man to lead Team GB to glory.
Assistant: Gary Neville
As stated previously, too much change in an experimental side would certainly have a negative impact. Therefore, we would bring in Gary as our assistant as he has previously worked with Roy Hodgeson in the European Championships and has shown a desire and an ability to work well with him.
Gary Neville is known for his leadership qualities as a player, and now as an assistant. He was always on hand to support the players during the Euros and offer positive vibes. He will probably go onto management himself, and has already surprised people with his balanced views as a pundit.
Having been at World Cup's as a player, we feel Gary is the perfect partner for Roy and one the young players will look up to and respect.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Thu 02 Aug 2012, 2:16 pm
Thoughts? The other team are quiet
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2012, 2:18 pm
That's cos Nando and Trebs aren't here today
Why have you posted a day before?
Why have you posted a day before?
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Thu 02 Aug 2012, 2:18 pm
Olly wrote:That's cos Nando and Trebs aren't here today
Why have you posted a day before?
Because we have finished
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2012, 2:20 pm
TwisT wrote:Olly wrote:That's cos Nando and Trebs aren't here today
Why have you posted a day before?
Because we have finished
Well obviously lol, but now we know what we gotta beat
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- tbh we just gotta write up some tactics and we are pretty much there
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Thu 02 Aug 2012, 2:30 pm
Olly wrote:TwisT wrote:Olly wrote:That's cos Nando and Trebs aren't here today
Why have you posted a day before?
Because we have finished
Well obviously lol, but now we know what we gotta beat
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Thing is we think that is a winning entry anyway, so whatever you guys put won't matter. Sorry if we are too organised for you lot. The team must have been led well
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 02 Aug 2012, 2:33 pm
TwisT wrote:Olly wrote:TwisT wrote:Olly wrote:That's cos Nando and Trebs aren't here today
Why have you posted a day before?
Because we have finished
Well obviously lol, but now we know what we gotta beat
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Thing is we think that is a winning entry anyway, so whatever you guys put won't matter. Sorry if we are too organised for you lot. The team must have been led well
But will you beat us? Speed doesn't always mean efficiency, and we may have the better entry after taking our time. Only time will tell...
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 03 Aug 2012, 10:47 am
Team Get your ass in here submission
Team GB squad for the 2014 World Cup
Our squad
Our Manager
Our Assistant
We have come up with our starting XI, which includes both an attacking and a defensive formation. We feel we need the two different formations for both the important aspects of the game, and these formations will allow us to fluid and creative whilst attacking, as well as being solid and rigid whilst defending. We will start off with our attacking formation and instructions for that.
Attacking XI
Defensive XI
Why we chose our tactics:
We chose these tactics because we feel they suit the squad well, with the youth presence and the pace we have available. We also chose it because it is a formation our manager Martin O'Neill has used in the past, so he knows how to coach it properly, rather than him playing a 4-3-3 when he doesn't ever play that formation.
Team GB squad for the 2014 World Cup
Our squad
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- GK -Jack Butland (ENG) - We chose Jack because it is clear he has the potential to become a great GK, and we feel he will be nicely developed at this time to play for us.
GK - Connor Ripley (ENG) - Connor is a England Under 19 international and an able back up for Butland. A very promising young GK, who has made first XI appearances for Middlesborough.
GK - Jack Hamilton (SCO) - Having represented Scotland up to U17 level, this tournament will be a perfect opportunity for Jack to gain experience to help him in his career.
RB - Adam Matthews (WAL) - Adam had a brilliant season for Celtic last season, and is certainly making great strides as a full back. He also is getting good European football experience which will help him in this World Cup.
RB - Adam Henley (WAL) - Despite playing for a Blackburn team that got relegated, Adam showed promise at the highest level last year, and looks to be a top prospect, even though he may have to move to get away from the sinking ship of Blackburn.
CB - Phil Jones (ENG) - By the time this tournament comes round, Phil would have matured into one of the best CB's in the Premier League. A player with huge potential, will be big for us at this tournament.
CB - Jonny Evans (NI) Over-Age - We chose Evans because he is a very good CB, and we intend to link him up with his fellow Utd CB Jones, to form a formidable CB partnership at the heart of our defence.
CB - Steven Caulker (ENG) - Steven has proven on loan at Swansea that he is going to be a top CB, and we believe he will break out for Spurs soon enough, and therefore is more than good enough for our squad.
CB - Danny Wilson (SCO) - Danny is a very good young prospect at Liverpool, and already a Scottish International. He makes up what we believe is a very strong CB foursome in our squad.
LB - Leighton Baines (ENG) Over-Age - We have chosen Leighton as an over age player, because we felt that the LB area was weak in terms of young talent. We decided to go with Baines, because by this time he will be a fully experienced LB and a solid all round player. He also offers us set pieces.
LB - Ezekiel Fryers (ENG) - Fryers is a defender with undoubted talent, although his mental side is a bit questionable. But here he can learn under Baines and O'Neill and help him to prove he is as good as he is meant to be.
RM - Nathan Redmond (ENG) - One of the brightest young wingers England have, Redmond by this time will be a hot prospect if he hasn't already moved from Birmingham. He is pacy, skillful and exactly what we need on the wing.
RM -Josh Carson (NI) - Josh (despite playing for Ipswich scum) is a very good young player, working his way in football. This is a chance for him to showcase his talents on a big stage, and we believe he has the ability to back up our selection of him.
CM - Josh McEachran (ENG) - McEachran will be part of a midfield that looks to retain the ball in our system. He is a very good young CM, and by this time he will be firmly established in a Premier League midfield, whether it be Chelsea's or another sides.
CM - Fraser Fyvie (SCO) - After a recent move to Wigan, Fyvie will showcase his talents on the Premier League stage. We will know offer him the chance to show it on a World stage, and he has more than enough ability to do so.
CM - Jack Wilshere (ENG) - Jack will be one of the best CM's in the world at this point. He will have overcome his injury problems to lead Arsenal's midfield, and we want him to do the same for our side.
CM - Oliver Norwood (NI) - Oliver has recently secured first team football for Huddersfield in the Championship, and we believe by this time he will be an exciting young prospect, ready to express himself on a world stage.
LM - Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (ENG) - Alex showed at the Euros he is an exciting young talent, and by this time he will be fulfilling that talent regularly. He is a must for our side, as he is pacey and tricky, what we need in our wingers.
AM/CM - Ross Barkley (ENG) - Having already played for Everton, Ross is a highly exciting young prospect. He will offer us a different plan, whilst being able to play CM, he can also play AM, meaning we can switch formations when he is on the pitch.
AM/LM/RM - Nick Powell (ENG) - Nick has undoubted talent, and by this time could be a Utd regular. He is very versatile and will offer us many options in our squad, while being a very good player.
ST - Wayne Rooney (ENG) Over-Age - We have chosen Wayne, because after a couple of disappointing major championships we believe he will have a chip on his shoulder. He needs to prove he is world class on a international stage, and he will lead our attack, to prove he is world class leading us to glory.
ST - Connor Wickham (ENG) - Connor is a hot prospect, as shown by his move to Sunderland. He will offer us the target man, and he is a very good young player who by this time will be a proven Premier League goalscorer.
ST - Rory Donnelly (WAL) - Having chosen Swansea over Liverpool, Rory will breakout in the next 2 years on the Premier League stage and prove why we he deserves a space in our squad with his quite enigmatic talent
Our Manager
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- Martin O'Neill
We chose Martin as he is an outstanding candidate for any job, He has the tactical aware to make any side hard to beat and when he has a top class side he wins trophies. You just have to look at the short time he was at Wycombe/Aston Villa to see how good he can turn a side into.
Martin is tactically astute with various players he has managed to make them solid at the back and goes forward with attacking intent at pace which we have provided him with.
He has vast experience at international level after playing for Northern Ireland 68 times in his career. He has a special talent of being able to communicate well with his player so they know what he wants from them which is good as being from different countries they do not play together as often as a Brazil or Spain.
He has managed at several levels which helps with understanding how smaller sides like Andorra/Fiji would set out their stall and defend to get around these issues and make sure we don't trip up in a silly game, He is very good at making a solid unit as possible if we need to defend against teams who keep the ball and pass it and then hitting on the break you have evidence of Aston Villa vs Man Utd of this.
Martin is man with exceptional motivational skills where most will go to places and fear how much they will be spanked by, He instills a confidence in them that they can beat anyone weather it be Man Utd or Barcelona, He makes sure their ready for the challenge and won't take we can't do this for an answer. He install resiliency into a side even if their 4-0 down they try til the very last minute and give their all he never settles for less then 100% effort.
He's impact in football is impressive he's taken Aston Villa higher in the league then they have been in years then he leaves and they slump again, He's joined Sunderland recently and has now brought them forwards and you can see the desire in the players to do well for the side especially Stephane Sessegnon who was benched for them before he came and is now integral to Sunderland under O Neill. You can't deny the impact he has on a side as he always brings the team forward and betters what came before him.
Our Assistant
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- Gary Neville
Gary Neville would be our assistant manager. After retiring he gained widespread praise for his work with Sky Sports. He can analyse the games, looking at potential ways we can set up the team. He currently has a four year contract with the FA, and this would run until the World Cup in any case. We feel that from the fans perspective, his work with Sky proves to them that he understands football and we feel that this would be a popular move there.
Roy Hodgson showed faith in his abilities, having involved him in his team for Euro 2012. He knows some of the squad from there, dealing with them first hand; Butland, Jones, Baines, Oxlade, Rooney were all in the squad. In addition to this, he has more players who he has worked with from his Man United days in Evans, Fryers and Norwood. Fryers and Norwood were in the youth squad while Neville was there, and Evans was in the first team squad.
He has a wealth of international experience, having played 85 games for the England side. He played in all of the major tournaments between 1996 and 2006, with the exception of the world cup 2002 which he was injured for. He also has fantastic experience of playing in FA Cup and Champions League finals, as well as 400 league appearances.
We have come up with our starting XI, which includes both an attacking and a defensive formation. We feel we need the two different formations for both the important aspects of the game, and these formations will allow us to fluid and creative whilst attacking, as well as being solid and rigid whilst defending. We will start off with our attacking formation and instructions for that.
Attacking XI
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- Formation: 4-2-3-1
GK - Jack Butland (ENG)
RB - Adam Matthews (WAL)
CB - Jonny Evans (NI) - Overage
CB - Phil Jones (ENG)
LB - Leighton Baines (ENG) - Overage
CM - Jack Wilshere (ENG)
CM - Fraser Fyvie (SCO)
RW/RM - Nathan Redmond (ENG)
CAM/SS - Wayne Rooney (ENG) - Overage
LW/LM - Alex Oxlade Chamberlain (ENG)
ST - Connor Wickham (ENG)
Subs:
Connor Ripley (ENG/GK)
Steven Caulker (ENG/CB)
Adam Henley (WAL/FB)
Josh McEachran (ENG/CM)
Ross Barkley (ENG/CAM/CM)
Nick Powell (ENG/CAM/SS/RW/LW)
Rory Donnelly (WAL/ST)Butland
Matthews - Evans - Jones - Baines
Wilshere - Fyvie
Redmond - Rooney - The Ox
Wickham
Team Instructions:
Goalkeeper:
When we attack, I want you to distribute the ball out through the defence on the floor. Whether it be centre backs or full backs, we look distribute out quickly so we can attack with pace, but don't take any risks. If there is nothing on, look to hit Wickham so he can bring the ball down and bring others into play.
Defence
We want to keep a high back line, so as soon as we get the ball we push further upfield. When we get the ball, don't be afraid to play it around the back if there is nothing else on, but when you play it forward do it at pace, so we can spring into an attack. Baines and Matthews can get forward as they so wish, but never both at the same time. Evans and Jones always sit back, don't be tempted to go on a marauding run. If you must kick it long, do it quickly and make sure you hit Wickham around his chest area, so he can bring the ball down and bring others into play. But look mainly to play it along the floor, and when passing forward do it at pace.
Midfield
When you get the ball either via the defence, or from a Wickham knockdown, we want to attack with pace down the flanks. So what we want Wilshere and Fyvie to do is to sit a little bit deeper to dictate the play, and when they pass it, look to hit the wingers primarily or Rooney. Redmond and Oxlade Chamberlain, when you get the ball we really want you to attack the full back. You are both skillful players with bags of pace, so look to get to the byline and whip in crosses for Wickham, or pull it back for Rooney. What we want you to do Rooney, is either pick up the ball off Wilshere and Fyvie and try and turn and shoot or play it through for Wickham, or pick up the knockdown from Wickham and hit the wingers, or hit a shot first time. Look to be creative and prove your quality on an international stage. Also from crosses pretend you are going to run in, but then hold your run ready for the cutback if it comes.
Attack
Wickham what we want you to be is an all around striker. If the defence or keeper has nothing on they will look to hit you. When they do we want you to bring the ball down, look to give it to Rooney or the wing men if Rooney isn't on. You are a strong physical lad, but you are also quite a technically gifted player, so look to use both those aspects to your game when bringing the ball down and into play. From crosses, the wingers will either stand the ball up for you to attack in the air, or cutback for Rooney. Attack the ball in the air from crosses and be powerful there. Also when Rooney has the ball, look to make that run off the last shoulder, and then pounce on any chances that come your way.
General
When we have the ball, we look to attack with pace when the midfielders have it. The defence when you have the ball if nothing is on, keep it amongst yourselves until something becomes available, but when it goes forward we spring into life, and attack with great pace and creativity. Look to hit the wingers or Rooney so we can make something happen. If nothing is on hit Wickham, he is the 'out' ball.
Attacking set pieces
Free Kicks
Taker - Baines
Baines you want to be on free kicks today. Anything inside 30 yards out we want you to shoot, however if it is further out, or out wide we want you to whip in a fizzing cross. Evans and Jones you both push forward for free kicks and with Wickham will offer a large aerial presence. Matthews will stay back with either or both of the central midfielders.
Corners
Takers - Right side - Baines
Left side - Rooney
From corners we want them to be inswinging, so Rooney to swing it in from the left side, and Baines from the right. Evans and Jones to get forward with Matthews with either or both of the central midfielders to sit back. What we want is to put the ball in the corridor of uncertainty around the 6 yard box, so we really pressurise the keeper and defenders into make quick decisions. One of the wingers stand around the keeper, with the other in the 6 yard area. Evans, Jones and Wickham attack from deep, with one going near, one going far, and one attacking the centre.
Penalties
Rooney
Quite simple really, put em in the back of the net.
Defensive XI
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- Formation: 4-4-1-1
GK - Jack Butland (ENG)
RB - Adam Matthews (WAL)
CB - Jonny Evans (NI) - Overage
CB - Phil Jones (ENG)
LB - Leighton Baines (ENG) - Overage
CM - Jack Wilshere (ENG)
CM - Fraser Fyvie (SCO)
RM - Nathan Redmond (ENG)
CAM/SS - Wayne Rooney (ENG) - Overage
LM - Alex Oxlade Chamberlain (ENG)
ST - Connor Wickham (ENG)
Subs:
Connor Ripley (ENG/GK)
Steven Caulker (ENG/CB)
Adam Henley (WAL/FB)
Josh McEachran (ENG/CM)
Ross Barkley (ENG/CAM/CM)
Nick Powell (ENG/CAM/SS/RW/LW)
Rory Donnelly (WAL/ST)Butland
Matthews - Evans - Jones - Baines
Redmond - Wilshere - Fyvie - The Ox
Rooney
Wickham
Team Instructions:
Goalkeeper
We want you to be commanding Butland, make sure the defence doesn't get too deep and make sure you push them up at every opportunity. Be decisive when coming for crosses, make up your mind early and commit to whatever you choose, whether it be coming for it or not. Be very vocal and when issuing instructions keep them short and to the point. And most important of all, keep the ball out of your net.
Defence
Look to keep a rigid back four which is strong. We are going to play a high line, so we can allow the midfield to put pressure on them as well as you. We have the pace at the back to play this style, and in Evans and Jones we have a CB pairing that know each others game inside out. Evans we want you to mark the main striker, with Jones covering behind if needs be. If two up front pick them both up. Full backs, we are going to get the wingers to help you in defence, but be strong in the tackle and don't let anyone get to that byline.
Midfield
Now when defending you guys become a rigid line of four. The wingers drop back in and look to help the full back, by either doubling up on the winger or tracking the opposition's full back's run. What we are looking to do is put pressure on the opposition, so by playing a high defensive line at the back you are further upfield and able to put lots of pressure on there midfielders, especially the two CM's. Rooney we want you to drop back in and help out defensively, by picking up the third man in midfield if there is one, but if not still get back in and look to put pressure on the opposition.
Attack
You are our first line of defence, look to really harass the defenders when they have the ball. Put in a huge shift, and look to really help our pressurising game.
General
When defending, we are playing a high back line, with the aim of looking to put pressure on the opposition when they are on the ball. We have two rigid banks of four, with Rooney dropping in and helping out to make it a bank of five in the midfield.
Defending Set Pieces
Corners
Full backs go on either post, make sure you stick to them. We want a winger to stay forward, with Wickham using his height helping back. Evans, Jones and Wickham pick up the opposition's biggest players. Butland be commanding in the air, anything in that 6 yard area is yours. We man mark, so make sure you don't lose your men boys.
Free Kicks
Butland organise your wall quickly and efficiently. Utilise the smaller players, so the larger ones can pick up in the middle. Wickham, Evans and Jones again pick up the opposition's biggest players. Leave a winger upfield as usual, and we man mark again. Butland look to use your aerial presence to dominate your area and collect the ball.
Penalties
We want you to aim to not give these away. But if you do, Butland save it. Simples.
Why we chose our tactics:
We chose these tactics because we feel they suit the squad well, with the youth presence and the pace we have available. We also chose it because it is a formation our manager Martin O'Neill has used in the past, so he knows how to coach it properly, rather than him playing a 4-3-3 when he doesn't ever play that formation.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 03 Aug 2012, 10:51 am
Ok it's up and ready for you Afro 
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Fri 03 Aug 2012, 11:40 am
I will read through them later on today.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Fri 03 Aug 2012, 1:43 pm
Questions for Team WTF
Who was your project manager?
Was he a good PM?
Who picked out Carl Jenkinson?
Who idea was it to select Phil Jones at DM
For me there are a few obvious candidates that appear to have missed out? Did you consider MacEachran, Redmond and Caulker? If so, why did you ultimately reject them?
Questions for Team GYAIH
Who was your project manager?
Was he a good PM?
How did you divide the task up?
Who was responsible for checking DOBs and nationalities?
Who chose Martin O'Neil for manager?
Who was your project manager?
Was he a good PM?
Who picked out Carl Jenkinson?
Who idea was it to select Phil Jones at DM
For me there are a few obvious candidates that appear to have missed out? Did you consider MacEachran, Redmond and Caulker? If so, why did you ultimately reject them?
Questions for Team GYAIH
Who was your project manager?
Was he a good PM?
How did you divide the task up?
Who was responsible for checking DOBs and nationalities?
Who chose Martin O'Neil for manager?
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Fri 03 Aug 2012, 1:46 pm
Any of you can answer any of the questions for your team.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 03 Aug 2012, 1:49 pm
BigFellasAfro wrote:
Questions for Team GYAIH
Who was your project manager?
Was he a good PM?
How did you divide the task up?
Who was responsible for checking DOBs and nationalities?
Who chose Martin O'Neil for manager?
1. I was PM
2. Not my place to comment
3. We decided to get the manager and assistant first, then pick out the squad and then see what tactics and style suited our players and manager.
4. I did the final squad so me.
5. I believe it was Nando
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Fernando Fri 03 Aug 2012, 1:52 pm
BigFellasAfro wrote:
Questions for Team GYAIH
Who was your project manager?
Was he a good PM?
How did you divide the task up?
Who was responsible for checking DOBs and nationalities?
Who chose Martin O'Neil for manager?
1) Olly
2) Yeah was very good explained what he wanted to do and how he wanted it done
3) 1st Manager/Assistant 2nd Squad 3rd Tactics
4) Olly when doing the final squad
5) me cos he'd be towards the end of his career and looking to limit his time in football as you do at the end of careers
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Fri 03 Aug 2012, 1:56 pm
Who was your project manager?
Me
Was he a good PM?
Erm
Who picked out Carl Jenkinson?
Soddy originally picked the English players, but we all knew and agreed on a first 11
Who idea was it to select Phil Jones at DM
That was mine
For me there are a few obvious candidates that appear to have missed out? Did you consider MacEachran, Redmond and Caulker? If so, why did you ultimately reject them?
MacEachran - We had better players in CM and being English stood against him in that position.
Redmond - Same, we had to pick non-english players in certain positions. We picked the best ones, not randonly filling the blanks with any old non-english player. Shane Ferguson is good cover.
Caulker - We did actually have him, but we needed another scottish player to fit the quota. Hanley was the best choice.
Me
Was he a good PM?
Erm
Who picked out Carl Jenkinson?
Soddy originally picked the English players, but we all knew and agreed on a first 11
Who idea was it to select Phil Jones at DM
That was mine
For me there are a few obvious candidates that appear to have missed out? Did you consider MacEachran, Redmond and Caulker? If so, why did you ultimately reject them?
MacEachran - We had better players in CM and being English stood against him in that position.
Redmond - Same, we had to pick non-english players in certain positions. We picked the best ones, not randonly filling the blanks with any old non-english player. Shane Ferguson is good cover.
Caulker - We did actually have him, but we needed another scottish player to fit the quota. Hanley was the best choice.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by sodhat Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:00 pm
Who was your project manager?
Twist took the reins on this one.
Was he a good PM?
Very good, kept us working together (although much was via PM so you may not have seen it), and got it done early.
Who picked out Carl Jenkinson?
That was me. I don't know if that's a good thing or not, it's hard to pick up tone in your questions.
Who idea was it to select Phil Jones at DM
Twist did the tactics. I wholeheartedly support my teammates decision too.
For me there are a few obvious candidates that appear to have missed out? Did you consider MacEachran, Redmond and Caulker? If so, why did you ultimately reject them?
All were considered. McEachran missed based on him maybe not getting enough football, Redmond I don't rate as highly as some seem to, looks like another Walcott to me. Caulker was initially included, but because we had Evans, Wilson, and Hanley as CB's to fill our quotas it was a packed area and he dropped out.
Twist took the reins on this one.
Was he a good PM?
Very good, kept us working together (although much was via PM so you may not have seen it), and got it done early.
Who picked out Carl Jenkinson?
That was me. I don't know if that's a good thing or not, it's hard to pick up tone in your questions.
Who idea was it to select Phil Jones at DM
Twist did the tactics. I wholeheartedly support my teammates decision too.
For me there are a few obvious candidates that appear to have missed out? Did you consider MacEachran, Redmond and Caulker? If so, why did you ultimately reject them?
All were considered. McEachran missed based on him maybe not getting enough football, Redmond I don't rate as highly as some seem to, looks like another Walcott to me. Caulker was initially included, but because we had Evans, Wilson, and Hanley as CB's to fill our quotas it was a packed area and he dropped out.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:03 pm
I'll give the other member of each team a chance to answer the questions, but I want to ask both teams:
1) Neither of you picked Raheem Sterling? Was he considered? He looks top quality to me.
2) Who didn't pull their weight in your team?
1) Neither of you picked Raheem Sterling? Was he considered? He looks top quality to me.
2) Who didn't pull their weight in your team?
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Fernando Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:06 pm
we all pulled our weight we worked together and otw did what he could in the time available to him.BigFellasAfro wrote:I'll give the other member of each team a chance to answer the questions, but I want to ask both teams:
1) Neither of you picked Raheem Sterling? Was he considered? He looks top quality to me. There was several wingers available for the squad we chose what we thought was the best as he's currently not getting any game time and liverpool and suspect in 2 years time will be settling into the 1st team
2) Who didn't pull their weight in your team?
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:06 pm
BigFellasAfro wrote:I'll give the other member of each team a chance to answer the questions, but I want to ask both teams:
1) Neither of you picked Raheem Sterling? Was he considered? He looks top quality to me.
2) Who didn't pull their weight in your team?
1. We did consider him, and had him down as a maybe. But we felt at the time of the competition Redmond would be the better player.
2. I think everyone did what they could, Trebs as he told us would be away doing his olympic work, so you can't blame him for that.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by sodhat Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:07 pm
1) I suggested Sterling initially but I can see the reasoning that meant he wasn't picked - we've not seen much of him and we can't take him over some of the more established players.
2) Not one person didn't do what was asked of them.
2) Not one person didn't do what was asked of them.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by TwisT Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:10 pm
1) All about getting the best balance of the team. Sterling is a winger, would you pick him over Oxo? Again, Sterlings problem is that he is English. Unless you wanted a first XI made up of 8 good english players and then any old non-english players. There are always going to be notable people that miss out.
2) We all pulled our weight
2) We all pulled our weight
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by FIFA Diva Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:16 pm
Who was your project manager?
Twist
Was he a good PM?
Yes he was
Who picked out Carl Jenkinson?
Sodhat
Who idea was it to select Phil Jones at DM
Twist
For me there are a few obvious candidates that appear to have missed out? Did you consider MacEachran, Redmond and Caulker? If so, why did you ultimately reject them?
We did consider the said players but I don't feel that MacEachran would have made the side or even the bench and Redmond had far too much quality opposition. Caulker was in the side but to improve our side overall we had to take gim out.
Twist
Was he a good PM?
Yes he was
Who picked out Carl Jenkinson?
Sodhat
Who idea was it to select Phil Jones at DM
Twist
For me there are a few obvious candidates that appear to have missed out? Did you consider MacEachran, Redmond and Caulker? If so, why did you ultimately reject them?
We did consider the said players but I don't feel that MacEachran would have made the side or even the bench and Redmond had far too much quality opposition. Caulker was in the side but to improve our side overall we had to take gim out.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by FIFA Diva Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:19 pm
1) Neither of you picked Raheem Sterling? Was he considered? He looks top quality to me.
Sodat did mention Sterling but we looked at this task from a bigger picture we didn't look to put players in because they're good we wanted a good solid all around side which I think we did.
2) Who didn't pull their weight in your team?
Everyone put a shift in, I think this has been the best team I've been in so far.
Sodat did mention Sterling but we looked at this task from a bigger picture we didn't look to put players in because they're good we wanted a good solid all around side which I think we did.
2) Who didn't pull their weight in your team?
Everyone put a shift in, I think this has been the best team I've been in so far.
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Afro Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:28 pm
Thanks all.
Here is where I am at.
There are clearly a lot of similarities between the two squads, so I have knocked off the players selected by both and got down to:
2. Jed Steer (England) - GK
3. Lee Nicholls (England) - GK
4. Jon Flanagan (England) - RB
8. Grant Hanley (Scotland) - CB
10. Jack Robinson (England) - LB
11. Carl Jenkinson (England) - LB
17. Jonathan Williams (Wales) - AM
18. Shane Ferguson (N.Ireland) - LM
21. Jake Cassidy (Wales) - ST
versus
GK - Connor Ripley (ENG)
GK - Jack Hamilton (SCO)
RB - Adam Henley (WAL)
CB - Steven Caulker (ENG)
LB - Ezekiel Fryers (ENG)
RM - Nathan Redmond (ENG)
CM - Josh McEachran (ENG)
CM - Oliver Norwood (NI)
ST - Rory Donnelly (WAL)
With overage players, you both had Rooney and Evans, so it came down to Baines v Bale.
In terms of coaches, it is Hodgson v O'Neil, and you both chose Gary Neville as assistant. Both are good choices with their positives and negatives. I felt that Hodgson's existing relationship with Neville was a strong positive for him, but then I also felt that, in my opinion, O'Neil is the better manager. Therefore it's fair to say, this bit was honours even.
Both sets of tactics were really strong, with both sides doing defensive and attacking formations. With the sides you have selected, I could not split the tactics.
I feel that both starting XIs are equal, although I do feel that one squad is stronger than the other.
The presentation was good on both teams, although one team provided that little bit more detail.
On all of this, the two teams are neck and neck, but I did spot what I think are two mistakes.
So a few more questions:
Team WTF - Carl Jenkinson has previously stated that he is leaning towards Finland. Why do you think you can persuade him to pick Team GB instead?
Team GYAIH - What is Oliver Norwood's DOB? And what is Rory Donnelly's nationality?
Here is where I am at.
There are clearly a lot of similarities between the two squads, so I have knocked off the players selected by both and got down to:
2. Jed Steer (England) - GK
3. Lee Nicholls (England) - GK
4. Jon Flanagan (England) - RB
8. Grant Hanley (Scotland) - CB
10. Jack Robinson (England) - LB
11. Carl Jenkinson (England) - LB
17. Jonathan Williams (Wales) - AM
18. Shane Ferguson (N.Ireland) - LM
21. Jake Cassidy (Wales) - ST
versus
GK - Connor Ripley (ENG)
GK - Jack Hamilton (SCO)
RB - Adam Henley (WAL)
CB - Steven Caulker (ENG)
LB - Ezekiel Fryers (ENG)
RM - Nathan Redmond (ENG)
CM - Josh McEachran (ENG)
CM - Oliver Norwood (NI)
ST - Rory Donnelly (WAL)
With overage players, you both had Rooney and Evans, so it came down to Baines v Bale.
In terms of coaches, it is Hodgson v O'Neil, and you both chose Gary Neville as assistant. Both are good choices with their positives and negatives. I felt that Hodgson's existing relationship with Neville was a strong positive for him, but then I also felt that, in my opinion, O'Neil is the better manager. Therefore it's fair to say, this bit was honours even.
Both sets of tactics were really strong, with both sides doing defensive and attacking formations. With the sides you have selected, I could not split the tactics.
I feel that both starting XIs are equal, although I do feel that one squad is stronger than the other.
The presentation was good on both teams, although one team provided that little bit more detail.
On all of this, the two teams are neck and neck, but I did spot what I think are two mistakes.
So a few more questions:
Team WTF - Carl Jenkinson has previously stated that he is leaning towards Finland. Why do you think you can persuade him to pick Team GB instead?
Team GYAIH - What is Oliver Norwood's DOB? And what is Rory Donnelly's nationality?
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:31 pm
BigFellasAfro wrote:
Team GYAIH - What is Oliver Norwood's DOB? And what is Rory Donnelly's nationality?
Donnelly is Welsh and Norwood was born in 1992?
That's what I got when I did it first time let me check again...
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by sodhat Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:32 pm
Jenkinson has rejected a full cap for Finland already, and appears to lean toward England according to this article.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/arsenal-teen-jenkinson-keen-to-choose-england-over-the-finns-2339479.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/international/arsenal-teen-jenkinson-keen-to-choose-england-over-the-finns-2339479.html
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Re: The Apprentice Task 4 - Team GB for the World Cup
by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 03 Aug 2012, 2:33 pm
Donnelly is Northern Irish and Norwood was 91 not 92. Sorry must have missed that
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