Top 20 Worst Heavyweight champions circa 1890 - 1990
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Top 20 Worst Heavyweight champions circa 1890 - 1990
Obviously had I moved the criteria to current day times then they'd probably all be from the last ten years or so....
1. Trevor Berbick....
2. Primo Carnera....
3. Marvin Hart.......
4. James Smith......
5. Gerrie Coetzee...
6. Ernie terrell......
7. Jess Willard......
8. John Tate.........
9. Tony Tucker.....
10. Greg Page........
11. Ingemar Johanssen...
12. Tony Tubbs.....
13. Tommy Burns....
14. Michael Dokes....
15. Mike Weaver.....
16. Pinklon Thomas...
17. Michael Spinks...
18. James Douglas...
19. Jimmy Ellis........
20. Jack Sharkey/max Schmelling....
No Rocky Marciano I'm afraid!!!!
1. Trevor Berbick....
2. Primo Carnera....
3. Marvin Hart.......
4. James Smith......
5. Gerrie Coetzee...
6. Ernie terrell......
7. Jess Willard......
8. John Tate.........
9. Tony Tucker.....
10. Greg Page........
11. Ingemar Johanssen...
12. Tony Tubbs.....
13. Tommy Burns....
14. Michael Dokes....
15. Mike Weaver.....
16. Pinklon Thomas...
17. Michael Spinks...
18. James Douglas...
19. Jimmy Ellis........
20. Jack Sharkey/max Schmelling....
No Rocky Marciano I'm afraid!!!!
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TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40690
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and if you'd stopped at 1980, you'd have struggled to get a list.
braddock lucky not to make the cut i'd say.
braddock lucky not to make the cut i'd say.
milkyboy- Posts : 7762
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No Leon Spinks?
Atila- Posts : 1712
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Neon Leon and Braddock should probably be in...forgot about spinks....
let's pretend he's in at 4..
let's pretend he's in at 4..
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. Was this just a list of those that failed to make a single successful defence or was there more to it than that?
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No Valuev? Must be as Horizontalhero says...
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It was only to 1990 mate, otherwise we would have had Seldon and Bent too
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ah ok. Thats what happens when you don't read the OP properly....you end up looking like a d!ck.
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Frank Bruno should be in there too!
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There's a few of them that made a successful title defence; Weaver, Thomas, Ellis and I think Burns. Burns made a few defences I think?horizontalhero wrote:. Was this just a list of those that failed to make a single successful defence or was there more to it than that?
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Dear Trussman
Please could we have Bruce Seldon atop the list. To beat an aged Tucker for the title and then surrender it to Tyson makes his the worst ever. At least the other's on the list had guts.
Please could we have Bruce Seldon atop the list. To beat an aged Tucker for the title and then surrender it to Tyson makes his the worst ever. At least the other's on the list had guts.
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Bruce Seldon came after 1990 mate. Otherwise, I'm sure he would have made the cut.Super D Boon wrote:Dear Trussman
Please could we have Bruce Seldon atop the list. To beat an aged Tucker for the title and then surrender it to Tyson makes his the worst ever. At least the other's on the list had guts.
Truss, could also have Lee Savold on the list. He was rated as a heavyweight champ by the Europeans for some reason.
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Super D Boon wrote:Frank Bruno should be in there too!
Look up when Bruno was a world champion and then answer the question "why isn't Bruno included?". Hint: Read the title of the thread
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I don't think Terrell deserves to be lumped in to this list at all to be honest, Truss, much less so at number six! Not a crowd-pleaser, but his record is too good to be maligned like that.
Ellis, to be honest, should feature much higher, certainly higher than Terrell. Certainly not as much quality in his win column, and Terrell didn't need to rely on a truly unjust verdict to hang on to his WBA belt the way Ellis did against Patterson.
Ellis, to be honest, should feature much higher, certainly higher than Terrell. Certainly not as much quality in his win column, and Terrell didn't need to rely on a truly unjust verdict to hang on to his WBA belt the way Ellis did against Patterson.
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Damiani is an excellent call - was trying to remember when he won the WBO title. Turns out it was 1989.
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Nobody really recognised the WBO when Tyson ruled.....
Technically you're right but they became bonafide a little later on!
Technically you're right but they became bonafide a little later on!
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