Matthysse vs Olusegun (SPOLIERS INSIDE)

What a brilliant fight between 2 warriors who put it all on the line with matthysse winning by KO in the 10th

Olusegun stood in the pocket with matthysse and went to war and took loads of heavy shots from the bigger man and wouldn't go down miraculously, especially when it looked like it could be over in the 2nd or 3rd round but olusegun came out strong again. By the 6th matthysse had thrown loads and was looking a little slower. Olusegun got a second wind but ultimately couldn't hurt matthysse like Lucas could do to him. Ajose took a huge left hook in the last second of the 9th which took it out of him. The 10th was finished well by Matthysse landing 6 hard punches in the space of 10 seconds. He tried to get up but it was already stopped

Matthysse was as impressive as always, abnormal power, super accurate, durable, smart, tight defence and is ever improving. Except Marquez he would beat every other fighter at 140 and has a bright future

Ajose can come again. He showed great heart, a granite chin, good skills, combos and hand speed and would beat Garcia easily enough. If him and matthysse had the same power te final result would have been very different as he could never really hurt matthysse

FOTY candidate for sure although wont win as it was a bit too one sided

What a chin Olusegun has! No one at 140 will beat Matthysee in my opinion, Garcia had better run for the hills.

He was made of something else, matthysse is a dynamic puncher but olusegun took them without going down and replied with great flurries.

He actually fought the wrong fight, he elected to fight in the pocket and went toe-to-toe with Lucas. When matthysse started slowing down he used a bit of movement and popped him from long range with great combos but the early punishment he took meant he couldn't keep the high level up

Matthysse is the guy at the weight and would give Marquez a run for him money. He may have a style suited to Lucas' style but he has never fought anyone as big or powerful as him. He has pretty good footwork and manages to close down all of his opponents. Marquez isn't an elusive counterpuncher, he likes to stand in the pocket hitting his opponents taking a couple to get his shots off. Matthysse will hurt him to the body and will definitely test Marquez chin. Not saying he would win but could make it very very close

I am a huge Marquez fan (he is my all time favourite fighter), but I would not like to see him in with Matthysse, Marquez has paid his dues in the sport.

Olusegun would have beaten most in the division last night.

Matthysse is a beast and Olesugun too. He absorbed so much. Matthysse needs to fight Garcia/Morales winner and get the belt he deserves

Not overly impressed with Mattysse, he's been shown to be a bully pure and simple, as soon as he faces someone with a decent defence he'll be exposed, talk of him beating Marquez is quite frankly absurd.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Not overly impressed with Mattysse, he's been shown to be a bully pure and simple, as soon as he faces someone with a decent defence he'll be exposed, talk of him beating Marquez is quite frankly absurd.

You're whole statement is absurd. Matthysse is far more than a come forward slugger. He has a better defence than meets the eye, takes a lot on the gloves. Has a varied attack too and HAS been in with slick top class lighth welters: Judah and Alexander. He beat them both.

Marquez would be a hell of a fight. Lucas givers anyone kittens. You need to wake up

Judahs days as a top class 140lber were years gone while I don't actually think he beat Alexander, the Kotelnik fight was a cast iron robbery but not that fight. Marquez would finish the job that Soto started, with his size advantage being negated by perfect timing and his power negated by counter punching brilliance and durability, he'll be in for a long long night. Bradley would also make relatively easy work of him had they fought.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Not overly impressed with Mattysse, he's been shown to be a bully pure and simple, as soon as he faces someone with a decent defence he'll be exposed, talk of him beating Marquez is quite frankly absurd.

Except that he should have got the decisions vs both alexander and Judah, 2 fighters who stylistically should have done extremely well vs him. He is pretty slow but closes the ring well, throws good hard combos to body and head

Marquez likes to get into a tear up and has done vs similar fighters like katsidis and Diaz who had their moments and neither can hit as hard as matthysse and neither are as big or tough

Marquez is 39 and vs pacquiao and fedchenko he looked to be blowing at the tail end of both fights which is dangerous against a puncher like matthysse especially with his body punching

Matthysse is overrated....Disappointed in Ajose fought the wrong fight.

You dont struggle against a over the hill Judah if your the best at 140.

Against a puncher like Matthyse, since when was his power comparable to that of Pacquiao's until he takes out a Ricky Hatton type with one punch there's no real comparison.

My view is that he could have got the victory over an ageing Judah but it was a lot closer than many suggest while Alexander just about deserved the win but was tarred by the previous Kotelnik robbery.

Matthysse was stepping up in class for first time v Judah, has made improvements since. Not saying he would defo beat Marquez, but not listening to this rubbish saying he isn't a top 140 pounder

He's a top 140lber based on others losing and moving up.

Garcia is the number one in the division

The genius of PBF wrote:Garcia is the number one in the division

Garica's lucky that they have kept matthysse and olusegun away from him

Struggled with Holt, won a lot closer than the scorecards suggested vs a fat Morales who couldn't make 140 and now is being talked up as some huge puncher by catching khan who has had troubles with his chin with a great counter left which should have finished the job

He struggled with speed vs khan but khan got silly and fought fire with fire. Olusegun has a granite chin and a lot of speed, he would easily beat Garcia imo

He was timing Khan before that punch it was only a matter of time...Khan was rated number one before the fight so Garcia deserves to be number one.

The genius of PBF wrote:He was timing Khan before that punch it was only a matter of time...Khan was rated number one before the fight so Garcia deserves to be number one.

Didnt say he's not #1 I said he's lucky he hasn't had to face the 2 fighters last night.

Struggling with holt and morales isn't a great sign that he can continue to be #1. Also, his rematch vs morales is perhaps one of the most pointless fights in boxing.

In fairness to Garcia, Khan was seen a bigger threat than Mathysse or Olusegun when Garcia faced him. I dont think Morales struggled to make 140 either. He just couldnt be bothered. I dont know why he continues to fight.

Morales had a rematch clause which is why they are fighting again.

manos de piedra wrote:In fairness to Garcia, Khan was seen a bigger threat than Mathysse or Olusegun when Garcia faced him. I dont think Morales struggled to make 140 either. He just couldnt be bothered. I dont know why he continues to fight.

Yea I know it was a great win and against the odds, but Garcia (although perhaps getting his timing right) was losing round spretty convincingly and couldn't mount too much of an offence untill he landed that punch that khan never recovered from. What I'm saying is that punch wouldn't have knocked out either of those 2, olusegun took about 20 punches harder than that last night alone.

In fairness boxing isn't about ifs and buts, for the time being Garcia has earned his number one status which Matthysse hasn't and what's to say for definite that either of them would have taken the punch anyway.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:In fairness boxing isn't about ifs and buts, for the time being Garcia has earned his number one status which Matthysse hasn't and what's to say for definite that either of them would have taken the punch anyway.

If you saw the fight last night you would have seen olusegun take bigger shots than that. Straight rights, lunging left, counter lefts, uppercuts he took them all and matthysse hits harder than Garcia. Before khan he had 14Ko's in 23 wins and had gone the distance vs morales, Holt and Campbell not exactly scary power

If matthysse had wins over Judah and alexander he would have a stronger CV than Garcia by now

Matthysse going the distance with Judah wouldn't suggest he has scary power either, he's a good puncher but I don't think he's a devastating puncher by any means and while he's got a reasonable record, Garcia trumps it all by virtue of beating Khan.

WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs wrote:

manos de piedra wrote:In fairness to Garcia, Khan was seen a bigger threat than Mathysse or Olusegun when Garcia faced him. I dont think Morales struggled to make 140 either. He just couldnt be bothered. I dont know why he continues to fight.

Yea I know it was a great win and against the odds, but Garcia (although perhaps getting his timing right) was losing round spretty convincingly and couldn't mount too much of an offence untill he landed that punch that khan never recovered from. What I'm saying is that punch wouldn't have knocked out either of those 2, olusegun took about 20 punches harder than that last night alone.

Perhaps. I dont rate Garcia all that highly myself but I think in beating Khan who was a fellow champion he deserves the place he occupies at the moment. Certainly wouldnt put him as an overwhelming favourite against most of the other 140 contenders. Other than Bradley who appears to have left the division now, I think all the rest look pretty well matched. Marquez if he elects to stay at 140 would probably be natural number 1 guy but he needs to clock up some wins there.

Imperial Ghosty wrote:Matthysse going the distance with Judah wouldn't suggest he has scary power either, he's a good puncher but I don't think he's a devastating puncher by any means and while he's got a reasonable record, Garcia trumps it all by virtue of beating Khan.

Judah may have a reputation of wilting but only 3 of his 7 losses have been knockouts which isn't too bad considering one was a body shot (which anyone can go down from) and another was by a prime Miguel Cotto. He has fought lots of top tier fighters without going down and has only 1 loss at 140 to Tzsyu so knocking judah down it still a good achievement

I also don't get the khan victory trumps all. He was #1 (bradley moved up) but had lost to Peterson before hand and was wobbled by Maidana so he wasn't like some invincible fighter. Lopez's win over Ortiz was better than anyone's at 147 bar mayweather and pacquiao doesn't mean he is the 3rd best welterweight

Beating the divisions number one rated fighter does tend to rate a lot higher than beating lowly ranked fighters like Olusegun and Soto while a power puncher should be putting Judah away if they're supposedly dominating the fight he does have a weak chin.

Just because Olusegun is ranked low (apparently the number 1 contender for the WBC for 4 years!) doesn't mean its not a great win.

They are all lucky Paul McCloskey never got hold of them for his comeback fight

It's hardly a great win though is it, it's a good win but nothing more.

Problem with Olusugen is hes been fighting in the wilderness for those four years. Barely beating ranked world class fighters let alone genuine contenders. This was a big test for him at proper world class level. I thought he performed quite well and showed good qualities but I dont think hes quite as good as his performances before last nigt might have promised.

I think he used the wrong gameplay and was surprised at matthysse's uncharacteristically fast start. He started well by mixing it up while staying out of range but went inside and tried to fight in the pocket, I think he wanted to make an impression on matthysse early but it backfired and he shipped a lot of shots. He had a very good 7th and 8th were he showed his boxing skills and speed but had shipped too much punishment so couldn't capitalise on it

He hadn't fought for about 12 months which could have influenced the fight as he didn't look quite as sharp as he had been in his previous fight. The Americans were impressed by him so hopefully he can get another shot at the title

Oh dear Mckloskey would have been annihilated by either of them.