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Post by Derbyblue Thu 27 Sep 2012, 12:04 am

1 RB 1 WR 3 Flex: Doug Martin, Andre Brown, Torrey Smith, Dwayne Bowe, Roddy White, Malcolm Floyd, Martellus Bennett, Rob Gronkowski.

Do I drop Chris Johnson for Heath Miller?

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Post by Forward Pass Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:35 am

Tough choice Derby

Personally I would go Martin / Brown [If Bradshaw is out] / White / Floyd & Gronk .

If by drop you mean just put on your bench then yes until he shows any sign of regaining form ,but don't get rid of him
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:37 am

Derby i would go with Martin at RB, White at WR, and Gronk, Brown and Smith in the Flex
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Post by Number-25 Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:56 am

The only caution I'd put on Martin is that he's up against the Redskins this week and the Bucs would be insane not to pass all day against our awful secondary. This is the week to have Vincent Jackson in your fantasy team!! Still, if Bradshaw is playing for the Giants then Martin is probably still a better bet than Brown cos he should see more touches.

Tough not to play the Gronk and I'd alongside him I'd have White and Smith.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Thu 27 Sep 2012, 7:57 pm

Derbyblue wrote:1 RB 1 WR 3 Flex: Doug Martin, Andre Brown, Torrey Smith, Dwayne Bowe, Roddy White, Malcolm Floyd, Martellus Bennett, Rob Gronkowski.

Do I drop Chris Johnson for Heath Miller?

RB: D. Martin (unless Bradshaw is a scratch)
WR: R. White
Flex: Gronk, D. Bowe (tempted by Floyd though as the Chiefs D has been a bit of a sieve), T.Smith

No I wouldn't drop CJ2K for Miller. If you mean "drop" as in permanently get rid of him then it's a massive no... i'm aware he currently sucks and you should bench him, but he has too much talent and started quite similar last year and still put up 1000 yards once he picked things up late season. If you mean "bench", then still its a no as Miller is on a bye week Smile

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Post by crazy_dave23 Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:25 pm

2WR and a Flex from:
Hakeem Nicks (@PHI) , Brandon Marshall (@DAL), Malcolm Floyd (@KC), Jeremy Maclin (vsNYG) and Danny Amendola (vsSEA)

Flex:
Danny Amendola (vsSEA), Andre Brown (@PHI) and Dez Bryant (vs CHI)

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Post by GSC Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:29 pm

Muslim Ponder, Matt Stafford (Play each other) or Matt Schaub (@ TEN)

Also 3 from Nelson (@ NO), Julio (@ CAR), Austin (@ CHI) or Stevie Johnson (@ NE)
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Post by GSC Thu 27 Sep 2012, 8:31 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:2WR and a Flex from:
Hakeem Nicks (@PHI) , Brandon Marshall (@DAL), Malcolm Floyd (@KC), Jeremy Maclin (vsNYG) and Danny Amendola (vsSEA)

Flex:
Danny Amendola (vsSEA), Andre Brown (@PHI) and Dez Bryant (vs CHI)

I think Amendola x2 is the best option in both. Seattle should get a ton of pressure forcing Bradford underneath.

As for another 2: Maclin and Nicks I think. Marshall hasn't got a good connection with Cutler so far, and Dallas is a tough assignment.
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Post by twelve283 Thu 27 Sep 2012, 9:15 pm

Derbyblue wrote:
Do I drop Chris Johnson for Heath Miller?
Maybe, depends on what the rest of your roster looks like + size of league. Miller is getting targets and more importantly, if it's a standard or touchdown heavy league, he's getting targeted frequently in the RZ. If that continues he'll consistently rack up the points.

On the other hand CJNoK's value is virtually non-existent. I suspect he'll be cut very soon in many smaller leagues if he hasn't been already.

It is tricky though because the general rule of thumb is you shouldn't cut a player if you think he'll be claimed immediately, which CJ probably would just based on his "name" alone. Comes down to how brave you are. Wink

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No I wouldn't drop CJ2K for Miller. If you mean "drop" as in permanently get rid of him then it's a massive no... i'm aware he currently sucks and you should bench him, but he has too much talent and started quite similar last year and still put up 1000 yards once he picked things up late season. If you mean "bench", then still its a no as Miller is on a bye week Smile
Chris Johnson was awful last season, I should know I drafted him @ #2 in the East league, he had 4 good games all season which inflated his stats and the rest of the time he was averaging 40 yards rushing per game + maybe 20 receiving yards. He only had 4 TDs, that's awful for a standard scoring league.

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Post by Forward Pass Fri 28 Sep 2012, 11:13 am

A couple of mine

2 RB's from Demarco M / DMC /C Benson

Brees or RG3

Cutler !! or Alex Smith
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Post by RDuncan8 Sat 29 Sep 2012, 11:52 am

Murray and DMC
Trade RG3! (Start Brees)
Alex Smith

Mine:

2 from Leshoure, Green Ellis and Turner.

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Post by Leedscowboys Sat 29 Sep 2012, 1:05 pm

Bench Brees, his form in the first 3 games has been poor and he has been outscored by RGIII and even Andy Dalton in previous weeks, the Saints will be lucky to go .500 this season
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Post by RDuncan8 Sat 29 Sep 2012, 1:15 pm

20pts in each of his first 3 games is poor!?

Just because the Saints may not win much this season doesn't mean you bench Brees. Last year the Panthers were .375. That didnt stop people choosing Cam Newton in the 1st.

I should bench MJD, i mean the Jags have only won 1 game so far....

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sat 29 Sep 2012, 1:22 pm

The actual answer is you start one and you trade the other.
There is no need to have both Brees and RGIII... farm one out for a top quality player elsewhere and i mean top quality...

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sat 29 Sep 2012, 1:23 pm

I'd also add that I trust Brees and I dont trust RGiii to keep it going all year, so trade RGIII whilst his value is sky high

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Post by GSC Sun 30 Sep 2012, 10:39 am

The more the Saints are bad, the more Brees will throw.
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Post by GSC Sun 30 Sep 2012, 10:39 am

GSC wrote:Muslim Ponder, Matt Stafford (Play each other) or Matt Schaub (@ TEN)

Also 3 from Nelson (@ NO), Julio (@ CAR), Austin (@ CHI) or Stevie Johnson (@ NE)
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Post by Leedscowboys Sun 30 Sep 2012, 11:39 am

RDuncan8 wrote:20pts in each of his first 3 games is poor!?

Just because the Saints may not win much this season doesn't mean you bench Brees. Last year the Panthers were .375. That didnt stop people choosing Cam Newton in the 1st.

I should bench MJD, i mean the Jags have only won 1 game so far....

Maybe because Cam Newton was the Panthers offence, how is Cam doing this season ? Ditto MJD he is the Jags main offensive weapon, Brees numbers are poor for an elite QB
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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 30 Sep 2012, 12:18 pm

GSC wrote:
GSC wrote:Muslim Ponder, Matt Stafford (Play each other) or Matt Schaub (@ TEN)

Also 3 from Nelson (@ NO), Julio (@ CAR), Austin (@ CHI) or Stevie Johnson (@ NE)

Stafford, unless he is out in which case Schaub given how the Titans got ripped last week by Detroit...
I'm aware the Lions also got shredded in that game, but i'd trust Schaub a little bit more than Ponder who has started well, but could also have ups and downs given that he has had less than a season under center.

Nelson (Saints suck at Pass D... this could be the Packers coming out party after 3 string defences)
Jones (because this is a dumb question... the next time anyone queries starting Julio Jones I may just suggest the bench him for comedy value)
Possibly Stevie Johnson. I think there will be more points in the Bills Pats than in the Bears Cowboys

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 30 Sep 2012, 12:18 pm

Also...
KICKER NEWS
Nate Keating is out for the week... i'm sure somebody will have him in as a Kicker... go get Nick Novak

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sun 30 Sep 2012, 12:20 pm

Actually GSC... do the opposite of what I said... it's your lineup versus me in the West...


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Post by RDuncan8 Sun 30 Sep 2012, 12:26 pm

crazy_dave23 wrote:Actually GSC... do the opposite of what I said... it's your lineup versus me in the West...


Or is it reverse psychology??? Erm

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Post by BamBam Sun 30 Sep 2012, 12:56 pm

I thought we weren't asking line up Qs for our leagues on here!!

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Post by RDuncan8 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 12:52 pm

Leedscowboys wrote:Bench Brees, his form in the first 3 games has been poor and he has been outscored by RGIII and even Andy Dalton in previous weeks, the Saints will be lucky to go .500 this season

Good shout there... Laugh

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Post by Derbyblue Mon 01 Oct 2012, 1:48 pm

bambamwillis wrote:I thought we weren't asking line up Qs for our leagues on here!!
Doubt there's any rule against it, if you trust people to not give bias views or just ignore those you're up against it shouldn't be an issue.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 01 Oct 2012, 8:11 pm

Derbyblue wrote:
bambamwillis wrote:I thought we weren't asking line up Qs for our leagues on here!!
Doubt there's any rule against it, if you trust people to not give bias views or just ignore those you're up against it shouldn't be an issue.

I never ask about them, but there's no reason not to

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