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Which sequel ruined the Alien trilogy 3 or 4?

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Thu 04 Oct 2012, 8:43 pm

For me 1 2 and 3 were a great set of movies yet many, many people believe that Aliens 3 ruined the franchise. I disagree. I thought that 4 was a big mistake which ridiculed the films and made a laughing stock of Lt Ripley 1 of the greatest movie action heros ever. Bitch had balls.

I would like to know you're views on this if you don't mind.

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Post by alfie Sun 07 Oct 2012, 8:33 am

Well since a trilogy is generally considered to be a work in three parts , I suppose a fourth movie can't really be considered to have any effect on it Smile

However nitpicking aside I actually preferred 4 , perhaps because I was delighted to see an ingenious return for Ripley to enable her to go head to head with the ugly critters again... And for whatever reason I just didn't like 3.
Probably because I found the basic theme illogical after what we had actually seen happen in 1 and 2.

Each to his own I guess. Probably would have been better left after the second film.

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Post by Hero Sun 07 Oct 2012, 9:23 am

I think 3 suffered off the back of the gung ho shoot em up of Aliens as it took it back to a much slower paced dark style. If you took out the high octane 2nd film then 3 is a very decent sequel to the original.
The 4th though for me was horrendous.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Sun 07 Oct 2012, 9:43 am

The only sequel with a good 4th film was Rocky, mainly because they copied what they did before but made it a better imitation. When will sequels learn we DON'T want different!!
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Post by Hero Sun 07 Oct 2012, 10:07 am

But Aliens was very different from Alien, the original was a slow paced horror in space, the second an adrenalin packed action film, yet that worked.

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Post by Morgannwg Sun 07 Oct 2012, 3:18 pm

Both crap. Part 3 was a good idea but I just don't think it was executed very well.

Aliens vs Predator has ruined both franchises in my opinion.
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Post by SecretFly Sun 07 Oct 2012, 11:42 pm

Alien 4? As in the one where the Alien child has the typical 'horror' mummyish face and the frowning eyesockets?


Hmmm.... I wonder which one will it be for me.

Alien 3 at least had Charles Dance, who looks really disapppointed that he's part of the movie but acts the depression well because of it. And it has a well constructed cold dark damp world that the creature fully belongs in for best effect.

Yep, 4 ruined it.

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Post by Mr Bounce Thu 11 Oct 2012, 10:42 am

3 is very underrated film, mainly because it was edited badly for cinematic release. Also, people by then were used to the shoot-em-up scenes of Aliens and may have wanted more, only to be confronted with lots of bald English prisoners with no weapons. And running around in dark corridors. A lot.

I actually thought both scripts were quite clever (although not that well-executed) and I quite enjoyed the 4th one in an "unscrew your brain and enjoy" kind of way. My wife hates the way the Aliens could suddenly spit acid in the 4th film (an evolutionary thing from Ripley maybe) and the whole Alien/Human hybrid child is ridiculous. But as per every Alien film, there's lots of hats on the floor by the end.

Whilst they're not a patch on the original 2, they're not THAT bad. I think they both get a bad press.

Just don't mention Aliens v Predator: Requiem. We don't talk about that...

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Post by Smirnoffpriest Fri 12 Oct 2012, 4:06 pm

I love Aliens 3, that and Aliens are my favourites - pete postlewaite is awesome.

Alien Resurection was a mistake and poor, though it did have some good bits, the bit at the end where the 'alien mama' gets sucked out of the space ship is painfully bad!

As Mr Bounce says just forget AvP ever happened.

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Post by pscott Fri 12 Oct 2012, 8:10 pm

The first is the best, next the third and I can leave two and four to scrap it out between them.


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Post by Skydriver Sat 13 Oct 2012, 9:45 pm

I suppose the simple answer to the question as to what ruined the TRILOGY was the 4th film...!

My serious answer though is Alien 3 (aka "Alien Cubed"). I was left thinking "what, REALLY?" at the notion that they missed a stowaway xenomorph before going to hyper-sleep at the end of Aliens... and didn't like Hicks and Newt being unceremoniously killed/written out having seen them survive the 2nd instalment and emotionally investing in them.

I'd say that Alien Resurrection was rather under-rated. It's not brilliant, and the hybrid in particular was awful... as well as yet another re-run of the airlock, but there were some good ideas in there.

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