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Pool 6: Toulon v Montpellier

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Post by niwatts Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:11 pm

1st v 4th in the Top 14 as it stands. Montpellier lost 25-32 at home 4 weeks ago.


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15 Delon Armitage, 14 Vincent Martin, 13 Maxime Mermoz, 12 Matt Giteau, 11 David Smith, 10 Jonny Wilkinson, 9 Frederic Michalak, 8 Chris Masoe, 7 Steffon Armitage, 6 Pierrick Gunther, 5 Jocelino Suta, 4 Bakkies Botha, 3 Carl Hayman, 2 Sebastien Bruno, 1 Andrew Sheridan

Replacements:16 Mickael Ivaldi, 17 Gethin Jenkins, 18 Virgile Bruni, 19 Mathieu Bastareaud, 20 Benjamin Lapeyre, 21 Sébastien Tillous-Borde, 22 Simon Shaw, 23 Davit Kubriashvili


Montpellier

15 Lucas Amorosino, 14 Yoan Audrin, 13 Matt Carraro, 12 Paul Bosch, 11 Yohann Artru, 10 Ilian Perraux 9 Julien Tomas, 8 Johnnie Beattie, 7 Rémy Martin, 6 Alexandre Bias, 5 Mickael Demarco, 4 Drickus Hancke, 3 Maximiliano Bustos, 2 Mickael Ladhuie, 1 Yvan Watremez

Replacements: 16 Agustin Creevy, 18 George Jgenti, 19 Aliki Fakate, 20 Mamuka Gorgodze, 21 Benoit Paillaugue, 22 Pierre Bérard, 23 Timoci Nagusa

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:24 pm

Looking at the Toulon line-up, is that the highest number of foreigners fielded in a team this weekend?

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Post by Artful_Dodger Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:29 pm

That Toulon line up is mad, how much money is Mr.Crazy pumping into that club.

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:31 pm

Bernard Laporte claimed they have one of the smallest squads in T14!

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Post by thebluesmancometh Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:32 pm

The bench is the thing that is crazy... Jenkins, Bastaraud, Kubriashvilli, Lapeyre... Is the Toulon gameplan to deprive every other HC team of quality and win by default?!

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:35 pm

Toulon's second try makes the missed Wilkinson kickes largely irrelevant.

Armitage (Delon) is on fire.

15-3 to Toulon

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:39 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Looking at the Toulon line-up, is that the highest number of foreigners fielded in a team this weekend?
ERC Website wrote:
Key Tournament Rules

2. Eligibility of Players

(v) each club is permitted a maximum of two "foreign" players in any one match squad.
"Foreign" = Austrailian, New Zealander, Argentinian.

One of Carl Heyman, Chris Masoe and Matt Giteau must have an EU passport.

When we had Contepomi, Elsom and Chris Whitaker, Whitaker had a British passport. We also had Nacewa, Stan Wright and CJ Van der Linde but they qualified under the Kolpak ruling.


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Post by thebluesmancometh Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:42 pm

Masoe is an EU citizen now isn't he???

Rulings a bit of a joke tbh...

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Post by LondonTiger Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:45 pm

18-3 at HT.

Montpelier seem only interested in limiting the damage.

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Post by Bathman_in_London Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:51 pm

Isn't masoe Samoan born so he doesn't count as foreign?

Toulons squad is amazing, it's like a fantasy team!

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Post by Jenifer McLadyboy Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:55 pm

Bathman_in_London wrote:Isn't masoe Samoan born so he doesn't count as foreign?

Toulons squad is amazing, it's like a fantasy team!
Is it about where you are from in rugby too? Nacewa is a kiwi with a Fijian dad. But because he played 3 mins for Fiji he could never be an all black.

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Post by Bathman_in_London Sun 14 Oct 2012, 8:59 pm

Sorry I meant so he may well have a samoan passport and for some reason that and south African don't count as foreign?

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Post by yappysnap Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:17 pm

Score update anyone?

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:19 pm

23-6 to Toulon. Cruising. 3 tries so far. The only failure will be if they cant manage the fourth and TBP. Along with Harlequins, they are the best bet for top two placing in the knockout seeds.
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Post by Scrumdown Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:23 pm

Danie Rossouw is also on his way, the springbok lock/flanker. Don't know what phillipe st andre is doing in the crowd. There's no frenchies for the national team here.

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:25 pm

Montpellier got a penalty.

Make that 23-9 with 64 mins gone.
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Post by thebluesmancometh Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:26 pm

I cannot wait until Toulon rock up at the arms park, they are going to get such a beating!!!

There isnt much direction, old man at 10, and way too many foreigners to be cohesive...

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:26 pm

And Delon Armitage strolls in for his second. Game over, bonus points in the bag.


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Post by Pot Hale Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:28 pm

And Wilkinson knocks over the touchline kick in his sleep.

30-9
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:34 pm

Huh - Montpellier put on a bit of consistent pressure and Gordodze rumbles over from 10 metres out. Should be convertable.

30-16 to the mercs in rouge, and 7 minutes to go.
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Post by Pot Hale Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:39 pm

Big man Bastearaud powers his way over from an attacking penalty 10 metres out. Wilko to do the honours.

37-16 and final whistle coming up.
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Post by RDW Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:40 pm

Toulon looking pretty good - unbelievable strength in depth in the forwards!

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Post by Pot Hale Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:44 pm

Ten furriners in the Toulon 23. Are there no limits on non-French qualified players? Should there be for the Heineken Cup - part of the new agreement?
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Post by timhen Sun 14 Oct 2012, 9:52 pm

Toulon cruised that. Played pretty decent rugby without ever really looking like they were trying, especially given that it was raining and windy throughout.

They're a different prospect from previous years, they look a lot more cohesive. I'd be far from surprised to see them make the semis.

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Post by George Carlin Mon 15 Oct 2012, 7:45 am

With my one eye blinking, can anyone comment on how Johnny Beattie got on for Montpellier?
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Post by LondonTiger Mon 15 Oct 2012, 7:46 am

I only saw the first half. He tried, but seemed a tad underpowered.

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Post by RDW Mon 15 Oct 2012, 8:19 am

Didn't even notice beattie was playing tbh!

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Post by LondonTiger Mon 15 Oct 2012, 8:20 am

commentators mentioned him a few times - usually just as he was about to get smashed backwards when carrying. Mind you, pretty sure the called the FB Beattie as well.

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Post by PhilBB Mon 15 Oct 2012, 8:21 am

Pot Hale wrote:Ten furriners in the Toulon 23. Are there no limits on non-French qualified players? Should there be for the Heineken Cup - part of the new agreement?

Those with European working rights aren't foreigners.
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Post by George Carlin Mon 15 Oct 2012, 8:53 am

LondonTiger wrote:I only saw the first half. He tried, but seemed a tad underpowered.
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Post by seanmichaels Mon 15 Oct 2012, 9:54 am

timhen wrote:They're a different prospect from previous years, they look a lot more cohesive. I'd be far from surprised to see them make the semis.

Heard from the horses mouth that the signings they've made over the last 12 months are different from previous years. Apparently there was a focus on getting in team men as opposed to out and out superstars. It was evident that there is a good atmosphere within the squad from watching them train. Having seen them a couple of times this season I think the only chink is the indiscipline in the forwards. They give away a lot of penalties and that could cost them against some of the more powerful teams in Europe.

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