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Post by Rowley Wed 24 Oct 2012, 5:15 pm

Given a good number of big fights now appear on either boxnation, primetime or other channels that require a financial outlay to view I have noticed on a number of occasions around the times of these fights users make references to streams for these fights or requesting links for these fights, with varying degrees of subtlety, the more quick witted amongst you will have also noticed these comments, links or requests are deleted in double quick time.

I am writing this thread to reiterate that we have a zero tolerance approach to streaming and moving forward, as I have no desire to spend ages deleting these comments, those that persist in posting up links, requests for links or subtle requests for weather reports or whatever ingenious euphemisms we are currently using will be banned.

I have genuinely no desire to unpick what I am sure is a fairly complex legal issue and am woefully unqualified to do so, however irrespective of the legal rights or wrongs the reality is we do not own this forum we rent space from a provider company, they have a zero tolerance approach to streaming and as such we also have to, for the simple reason that if we are seen to be turning a blind eye to these things there is the very real possibility they will kick us off or refuse to lease us the space, which basically means the forum is finished.

Also from a more practical point of view as you are all aware we need advertising to operate, the place simply gets too much traffic to operate without it. As was mentioned in the initial discussions about advertising, the aim was and still is to have the advertising as work friendly as possible and avoid such things as mail order brides or “gentlemen’s” tablets of questionable medical benefit. The ideal scenario is that the advertising we attract will be specific to the sports we cover as the potential associated benefits such as competitions, discounts, Q&A’s etc should be obvious to us all. What should also be equally as obvious is our chances of attracting such advertisers are somewhat reduced if we openly allow threads showing where the fights they are either promoting or showing can be viewed by circumventing the proper channels.

Finally from a personal perspective I have IT skills which even if I was to describe them as limited I would be building my part up, I am a clueless luddite when it comes to these things and despite this on the rare occasions I have decided to watch things on streams I have managed to do it without putting a thread up on here or asking for assistance, which means anyone else should be able to do likewise, because if you can’t you’re clearly so stupid that the inability to watch a fight should be the least of your worries.

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Post by superflyweight Wed 24 Oct 2012, 5:20 pm

the aim was and still is to have the advertising as work friendly as possible and avoid such things as mail order brides or “gentlemen’s” tablets of questionable medical benef

Missing a trick as far as this this poster is concerned.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Wed 24 Oct 2012, 5:45 pm

Also, if you are going to stream fights, it isn't rocket science to find out on your own. Makes me laugh that so many so called boxing fans haven't figured out the 1 or 2 dead cert sites to watch boxing?

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Wed 24 Oct 2012, 6:03 pm

In reference to this, I agree, the weather report is most certainly not the best way to circumvent this.

If anyone would like links to aquatic pond life studies howeever, please feel free to PM me.

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Post by ShahenshahG Wed 24 Oct 2012, 6:12 pm

Jabmachine I hope thats not a reference to your tadpoles

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Wed 24 Oct 2012, 6:12 pm

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Post by seanmichaels Wed 24 Oct 2012, 10:02 pm

rowley wrote:

Also from a more practical point of view as you are all aware we need advertising to operate, the place simply gets too much traffic to operate without it.

I wish the traffic was like this on the way to work....... Seems very quiet these days.

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Post by coxy0001 Wed 24 Oct 2012, 11:03 pm



Just to clarify, as the website owners aren't in control of freedom of speech there's zero they can be done for. They (probably) state that any views are representative of their views hence we're free to post such links, albeit they'll get removed upon request.

End story: Posting them is no worse than PM'ng someone the link.

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Post by Rowley Thu 25 Oct 2012, 7:40 am

Coxy you seem to miss the bit where I said I don't give a monkies on the legal technicalities. What I do care about is the people who own the forum do not want links posting up or discussing or the moderation team adopting a laissez faire attitude to those that do. Pretty much everything else beyond this point becomes irrelevant. If they had said they do not want us swearing or having user names with numbers in we would similarly have to abide by these requests irrespective of the legal position or how seemingly arbitrary or unreasonable the request was.

If that offends you from a legal perspective feel free to set up your own similar forum and if they adopt a similar stance you can go all Rumpole of the Bailey on them over there but as there are many of us on here with no desire to see the place shut down we will be observing and respecting their wishes on this issue. Your initial sentence is also being removed, post it again and you're gone.

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 25 Oct 2012, 9:12 am

There is also the consideration that the legal prowess of the renaissance man that is coxy might be suspect.

As for the request its not an unreasonable one - please dont allow potentially criminal activities in the office we are renting you.

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Post by superflyweight Thu 25 Oct 2012, 12:53 pm

There is also the consideration that the legal prowess of the renaissance man that is coxy might be suspect.

I can assure you that it is!

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:01 pm

superflyweight wrote:
There is also the consideration that the legal prowess of the renaissance man that is coxy might be suspect.

I can assure you that it is!

There is so much wrong with that sentence anyway.

'Renaissance', 'Prowess'. 'Man' even. None of these are words I would ever associate with Coxy.


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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:12 pm

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:13 pm

So Coxy is an economist, an expert website developer/designer and also understands copyright laws too. Not to mention the fact he once bowled out Brian Lara with a tennis ball.

Wow, truly a man of many talents.

What else can you do?

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Post by Rowley Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:23 pm

You missed him being capable of playing on the PGA tour at golf as well.

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:24 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:So Coxy is an economist, an expert website developer/designer and also understands copyright laws too. Not to mention the fact he once bowled out Brian Lara with a tennis ball.

Wow, truly a man of many talents.

What else can you do?

Fly.

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Post by seanmichaels Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:25 pm

rowley wrote:You missed him being capable of playing on the PGA tour at golf as well.

Are you sure? Wasn't he referring to the Professional Golfer's Association at Cricket?

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:28 pm

Should have a 606 Society Golf Day. All bring £50 and the lowest scores wins the pot.

Well I say 'pot' but I really mean line my pockets.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:28 pm

coxy0001 wrote:Should have a 606 Society Golf Day. All bring £50 and the lowest scores wins the pot.

I'm in.
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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:31 pm

Golf is dull enough as it is, but walking around with Coxy for a few hours makes it even less appealing.

For that reason. I'm out.

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Post by seanmichaels Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:34 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Golf is dull enough as it is, but walking around with Coxy for a few hours makes it even less appealing.

For that reason. I'm out.

You are so miserable. How about if Coxy was able to pair you up with Fanny for the 18 holes?

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:35 pm

I don't own any clothes hideous enough to get me entry to a golf course. Plus I don't own any golf bats. And golf is the most boring 'sport' ever to grace this planet, I'm out.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:35 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Golf is dull enough as it is, but walking around with Coxy for a few hours makes it even less appealing.

For that reason. I'm out.

You are so miserable. How about if Coxy was able to pair you up with Fanny for the 18 holes?

I see what you did there.

No.

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Post by coxy0001 Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:36 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Golf is dull enough as it is, but walking around with Coxy for a few hours makes it even less appealing.

For that reason. I'm out.

You are so miserable. How about if Coxy was able to pair you up with Fanny for the 18 holes?

A Fanny or 'thee' Fanny Sunneson? Tina would only try and stick his pin in the hole only to come up short.

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Post by Union Cane Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:40 pm

Just me and Sir Nick then.
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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:43 pm

In fairness, Tina won't struggle with the fanny what with him being a hugely successful trader.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:44 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:In fairness, Tina won't struggle with the fanny what with him being a hugely successful trader.

Neither will you, what with you been hugely good looking and ripped.

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Post by seanmichaels Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:46 pm

People are so uncouth on this site sometimes. I meant the swedish lady who used to handle Faldo's sack.

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Post by JabMachineMK2 Thu 25 Oct 2012, 1:54 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:Golf is dull enough as it is, but walking around with Coxy for a few hours makes it even less appealing.

For that reason. I'm out.

Laugh


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Post by Lumbering_Jack Thu 25 Oct 2012, 3:03 pm

seanmichaels wrote:People are so uncouth on this site sometimes. I meant the swedish lady who used to handle Faldo's sack.

I once tried to get a Swedish lady to handle my sack, she stopped doing it after I finished to quickly on the first hole.

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Post by 88Chris05 Thu 25 Oct 2012, 3:15 pm

Lumbering_Jack wrote:
seanmichaels wrote:People are so uncouth on this site sometimes. I meant the swedish lady who used to handle Faldo's sack.

I once tried to get a Swedish lady to handle my sack, she stopped doing it after I finished to quickly on the first hole.

Maybe you should have played the back nine instead?
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Post by azania Thu 25 Oct 2012, 3:32 pm

I'm in. Hope Fanny's there as I fancy a hole in one! It would be easy money off Coxy also. Would like to give that arrogant mummy's boy a slap at his favourite sport.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 25 Oct 2012, 3:56 pm

Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:In fairness, Tina won't struggle with the fanny what with him being a hugely successful trader.

Neither will you, what with you been hugely good looking and ripped.

I thought you'd recently resigned your lucrative hedge-fund career Tino.... Whistle

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 25 Oct 2012, 4:08 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Mind the windows Tino. wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:In fairness, Tina won't struggle with the fanny what with him being a hugely successful trader.

Neither will you, what with you been hugely good looking and ripped.

I thought you'd recently resigned your lucrative hedge-fund career Tino.... Whistle

He quit while he was ahead - He heeded the lesson of the saying. "A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush"

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Post by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 25 Oct 2012, 4:09 pm

Oh is Primetime back now is he! Kicking off threatening to withdraw his free T-shirts comps if the site is not cleaned up.

Stick it to the man!!

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Post by two_tone Thu 25 Oct 2012, 4:15 pm

coxy0001 wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:So Coxy is an economist, an expert website developer/designer and also understands copyright laws too. Not to mention the fact he once bowled out Brian Lara with a tennis ball.

Wow, truly a man of many talents.

What else can you do?

Fly.

Perhaps you could demonstrate at your nearest multi-storey carpark?

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Post by seanmichaels Thu 25 Oct 2012, 4:15 pm

Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Oh is Primetime back now is he! Kicking off threatening to withdraw his free T-shirts comps if the site is not cleaned up.

Stick it to the man!!

He was very patient with me this morning. Not sure if he cottoned on to the fact I was taking the pi55 though.

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Post by ShahenshahG Thu 25 Oct 2012, 4:17 pm

two_tone wrote:
coxy0001 wrote:
Lumbering_Jack wrote:So Coxy is an economist, an expert website developer/designer and also understands copyright laws too. Not to mention the fact he once bowled out Brian Lara with a tennis ball.

Wow, truly a man of many talents.

What else can you do?

Fly.

Perhaps you could demonstrate at your nearest multi-storey carpark?

He already did in his role as BBC'S Sherlock which is a documentary based on his life.

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Post by Rowley Tue 20 Nov 2012, 11:38 am

Am bumping this, not because it is a particularly good thread but because the Hatton fight is on this weekend and so should anyone feel the odd urge to make non too subtle references to the streaming of fights they can have nothing to whinge about should they find themselves unable to log on next Monday.

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Post by Mind the windows Tino. Tue 20 Nov 2012, 11:41 am

Ego.

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Post by Valero's Conscience Tue 20 Nov 2012, 11:54 am

If anyone lives near the Bluewater shopping centre in Kent, they are showing it on one of their cinema screens!

A mate decided to be born on the day of the fight so committed to a party which was booked long before the fight was made Sad

Doubt i'll miss much though (famous last words!)

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Post by Rowley Tue 20 Nov 2012, 11:58 am

Valero's Conscience wrote:If anyone lives near the Bluewater shopping centre in Kent, they are showing it on one of their cinema screens!


And the Odeon in Sheffield City centre, see this is nice, discussing perfectly legal means by which to watch the fight

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Post by Melkor Tue 20 Nov 2012, 12:38 pm

seanmichaels wrote:
rowley wrote:

Also from a more practical point of view as you are all aware we need advertising to operate, the place simply gets too much traffic to operate without it.

I wish the traffic was like this on the way to work....... Seems very quiet these days.

It's dead compared to some. Somewhat stuffy and staid.

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