Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
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Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
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Newcastle Falcons vs. Worcester Warriors
Light rain, 7 degrees, 14mph wind
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly
16. Lee Mears 17. Paul Doran-Jones 18. Soane Tonga'uiha 19. Ed Slater 20. Heinrich Brussow 21. Luke Burgess 22. Toby Flood 23. George Lowe
Tactics
HOME FORM - WON EVERY GAME AT HOME FOR OVER 2 YEARS
WINNING - WE HAVE PLAYERS THAT KNOW HOW TO WIN EVERY GAME IN MCCAW, READ, FRANKS, CRUDEN, SBW
Gameplan – Simple rugby, High intensity.......With the game in damp conditions we’ll be looking to control the set piece, pack and look to play in the right areas of the pitch. Cruden will dictate play and will look to clear his lines from our own 22. We’ll look to put pressure on the opposition set piece throughout the game and we think we can get the upperhand in both scrum & lineout.
Defence – We’ll be deploying the rush defence looking to narrow the options for the oposition. McCaw will look to put pressure on Barkley throughout and force him to rush his game.
Set piece – Damp conditions usually means plenty of knock on which means plenty of scrums. We’ve went for a hefty scrummaging unit to really tear into Worcester from the off. Franks & Barcella will look to get secure a good platform and attack if a weakness seen. (Anyone who see Barcella at weekend will know he has his scrum mojo back!). Maestri will back up Franks as a real scrummaging lock and look to put pressure on the Opp LH/HK.
We’ll look for the take and drive on our own ball with Best/Maestri being the key men here. With 5 good jumpers and Parling pulling the strings we’ll keep things solid on our own throw whilst looking to target the opposition throw all game.
Pack – We’ve went for numerous carrying options in the pack and will look to use short pick and drives and keep things simple. McCaw & Robshaw will lead the assault and will also look to make a bit of a mess of the breakdown. With the poor conditions they’ll be plenty of opportunity to get hands in rucks and force turnover ball which will be used to force Worcester retreating back.
Backs – Big backline to help get us over the game line and punch holes in the opposition defence (SBW & AAC particular) SBW will look for flat straight simple passes from the halfbacks and get between the Worcester 10/12 combo. Cruden to play the conditions and unleash as needed(used to the rain plaining in NZ).
Goode will add a top draw tactical kicking option in the back 3 and look to hit the corners if weakness seen in the opp lineout.
KEY POINTS:
HOME ADVANTAGE- Won every game at home in over 2 years
LEAGUE FORM- In the mix and one of form teams in league despite loss of big name players
RETURN OF SH PLAYERS - We are raised by the return of our world class players McCaw, Franks, Read, Cruden, AAC offer us a real lift and tempo will be off the chart!!
Worceseter Warriors
Manager - prop_lyd
16.Dave Ward 17.Paul James 18.Chris Budgen 19.Ollie Kohn 20.Mamuka Gorgodze 21.Dwayne Peel 22.Morne Steyn/Sean Maitland (if Steyn banned) 23.Sam Vesty
Tactics
We have confidence coming into this match after 2 good wins in the Amlin cup and now the victory over Sale picking up the squad's confidence and making them want more. The Warriors are hungry for Falcon blood! We have selected a big pack who will look to keep the ball up their jumpers and a set of backs who are good both defensively and on the counter.
Forwards
*Front row to look to get the nudge on and we have 2 good props to come on later on to maintain the pressure. Strauss will look to get round the park.
*Big 2nd row pairing who will look to wind up their opposition and do the donkey work around the park. Hamilton will contest at the lineouts which Jones will lead.
*Back Row are good at the breakdown and we have strong, fast carriers who will offer themselves off the 10-12 channel and the 12-13 one to look to spread their defence. Tips will look for turnover ball with Jones and Morgan will look to create the gaps. Gorgodze will continue with the hard running.
Backs
*Quick ball to Barkley who will play with his head up and look to play quick rugby only if on, if not we will look to pin Falcons into the corners and force them to run from deep.
*McCabe to be his usual influential self and give good ball to Hopper who will use his offloading skills to release the runners and outside backs.
*Pace in the back 3 with Malzieu bringing the force. Cook and Short will look to hit the angles.
*Bench: if Steyn is on it then he will bring more control/Vesty'll come on for an extra boot/McFadden will bring pace and strong running.
Defence
*McCabe to lead this.
*Fast blitz banana defence with Reddan sweeping.
*A back 5 player to be on the tacklers shoulders to be first at the breakdown to look to either slow down ball or turn it over. They will look to support tackling in the 9-10-12 channels.
*If we get turnover and nothing is on we will ping to the corner.
Overall Play
*Strong carrying up front with the first 20 minutes being the forwards taking the ball in and creating the overlaps.
*Backs to play with their heads up and if it's on to break through the gaps and look for the offloads, if it's wet it'll be more up the jumper rugby!
*Barkley/McCabe/Cook to pin Falcons back but make sure their kicks go out of play and stop quick counter attacks.
*Barkley to take anything that's kickable.
We've caused one upset and won't take Newcastle lightly.........no respect and on our day we can push any team and this season we have beaten Gloucester in pre-season and Sale in the league which were both shock defeats showing we have it in up!!
Harlequins vs. Gloucester
Light rain, 9 degrees, 12mph wind
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
16. Rob Buchanan 17. Joe Marler 18. Ben Franks 19. George Kruis 20. Sam Warburton 21. Karl Dickson 22. Greig Laidlaw 23. Florian Fritz
Tactics
Game Plan
Play our usual game of strong carries up front and aggressive rucking allowing us to spread the ball wider and get our outside backs into space. We will look to play at a quick tempo controlled by our half backs. We will also look to retain possession and not kick aimlessly. We will look predominantly for our front 5 to carry off 9 and 10 with our backrow carrying off 10 and 12.
When our players are carrying we are looking for them to win the collisions and keep the legs pumping after contact. We will look to run at spaces rather than faces and look to offload if it is on.
All our players have an integral part to play in our rucking game. We need to get men to the breakdown early and ruck past the ball and move any Gloucester players from the breakdown. Quick ball for Lee Dickson is important to us. We want to run at an unorganized defence so there is less time for Gloucester to reorganize the better.
Set piece
In Borthwick we have as gooder line out technician as you could ask for. He will use himself, Botha and Wood as our key jumpers with Hooper and Easter usually in the midfield as carriers. Borthwick will also look to take Gloucester's lineout apart.
At the scrum we will look to put huge pressure on with Woodcock and Afoa both top class scrumagers.
Backs
Will look to Burns to put Roberts and Joseph into space, both of whom cut brilliant lines. Also have the option of Rob Kearney joining the line at pace and the blindside winger will also look to join the line. Will look for mismatches in the defensive line.
Defence
Quick linespeed is crucial as is pressurising Gloucester's key decision makers. We will look to double up on the tackle with one man looking to take the legs and the other concentrating on the ball. At the breakdown Hooper will look to disrupt and we will look to slow down the ball legally when we have the numbers in defence. We will look to knock back Gloucester carriers and win the collisions. This will stop Gloucester's momentum and allow us to attack the breakdown.
Gloucester
Manager – Mat
16. Nick Wood17.Jamie George 18. Rupert Harden 19. Tom Palmer 20.Jamie Heaslip 21. Dan Robson 22. Israel Dagg. 23 Richard Kahui
Tactics
fresh from beating unbeaten leicester glos travel to quins looking for the win
We will be aiming to play a high tempo quick game when possible however we will look to play territory and push quins back to start with and force them to play from areas they dont want to play from. we see our kicking game as being the key to gaining the chance to open up.
- We Have the ability to play the game many different ways and the ability to raise and slow the tempo as desired
- Key decision makers at 2,8,9,10,12
- Target the scrum with Steenkamp, grey and Mas a formidable unit.
- We will attack all lineouts as we see this as a massive area for us Hari, etzbeth, Robson, Lapandry, Alberts will be looking to starve quins of lineout ball.
- Packed with ball carriers and dynamism we will be carrying it in to the heart of quins looking for gaps and offloads to keep the ball moving
- All glos back 3 looking to attack at any oipportunity and exploit mismatches. they play as a unit in real life which is a huge advantage
- Great kicking options with Genia, carter and Barnes able to control the game where needed but also capable of launching blistering attacks
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We will use a blitz defence with centres up quick as we see the ball from yach to wilko being slow and enabling us to get in their faces.
- huge impact bench with palmer heaslip dagg and kahui all coming on to sure up the win
Key points
- lineout domination- lineout is one of the key areas of possession and pressure
- Tempo- Glos can play the game many ways allowing variety. we see dickson and burns losing out in a tactical battle
- Real life form- tons of players in excellent form
- Decision makers in all the key positions
- key players back from the RC
impact bench
we were the first to topple leicester and have great momentum
Leicester Tigers vs. Northampton Saints
Light rain, 7 degrees, 14mph wind
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
16. Gethin Jenkins 17. Tom Youngs 18. Cencus Johnston 19. Simon Shaw 20. Tom Croft 21. Micky Young 22. Billy Twelvetrees 23. Isa Nacewa
Tactics:
In wet conditions we will play to our strengths and play a game built around our intelligent HB's controlling the game, the power of our pack and the strength in our set piece.
- No overly ambitious passing - In wet conditions we will either look to kick to gain territory or look to keep ball in hand and take it through the middle.
- Attack at all scrums with our huge pack - Cole, Bruno and Sheridan as a unit, with Pape and Hargreaves' power behind, to look to really get the shove on. Jenkins and Johnston to pile the pressure on agaianst the likes of Webber and Thomas in the second half.
- Attack at all lineouts. Our lineout is led by Hargreaves; with Pape, SOB and Louw as our other jumping options.
Some great lineout stealers in our ranks who will pressure every one of Hartley's throws.
- Gigantic pack made up of massive line-breakers, used in the tight to tire down the Saints defence. The likes of Waldrom, SOB, Pape, Louw and Hargreaves to be used to crash through the Saints defence.
- Huge emphasis on our work at the breakdown today and we will always look to turnover possession. With Louw, and the likes of SOB, Cole and BOD, we feel our breakdown play could be crucial today.
- In general attacking play, we will play off 9 with Yachvili our general pulling the strings. We want Yach and Wilko to control the game, mixing up the point of our attack and looking for where the gaps are.
- We will look to employ a blitz defence, focusing on a quick line speed to hit the ball carrier before he gets to the gainline. We have aggressive forwards to carry out this instruction. Yachvili to sweep behind with an eye on short kicks.
- Unload our powerful bench to impact the game in the second half.
- Wilkinson to kick all penalites.
Key Points:
Home Advantage
Our home record is sensational, and we always feel we will win games at Welford Road. We feel we have the players to control the game, and in front of our own fans, Welford Road is a fortress.
Breakdown Advantage
We are placing huge emphasis on our work at the breakdown today. With breakdown expert Francois Louw - supported by the likes of SOB, Cole and BOD, we feel our breakdown play could be crucial. Any opportunity that we get, we will look to win turnover ball.
Weather Conditions
In strong winds and rain, our side is at its best. Controlling, tactical HB's, and a massive pack full of carriers. Play to our strengths, and play to the weather, and force Saints into mistakes for Wilko to take the points.
Northampton Saints
Manager - dammit_chris
16. Rob Webber 17. Sona Taumalolo 18. Henry Thomas 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Billy Vunipola 21. Mike Phillips 22. Matt Giteau 23. Ben Foden
Tactics
Overview - the conditions are light rain, which will suit the Saints gameplan of looking for Hernandez and Halfpenny to control the game with their boots and kicking the ball deep into the Tigers own half. Relying on our lineout that is led by Bonnaire to place Tigers under pressure. We then want to give the ball to our backline that is full of gainline breakers and power. We will look to place Tigers under pressure with an aggressive defence, force mistakes and attack the breakdown in numbers. We will play a simple structured game and power our way up through the midfield.
For those who mention Hernandez is out of form would suggest looking at his performances in the Rugby Championship and not the week he flew back from Argentina to play for Racing. We are looking to use his tactical kicking game throughout the match to keep Saints in the right areas.
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Pack/SetPiece/Breakdown
- Will look to work through the phases and work around the fringes to make hard yards and give Hernandez a platform to put the ball into the Tigers half, aiming for touch and lineouts. Looking to get Messam, Parisse, Lawes and Albacete on the ball as much as possible.
- We think we have an advantage with the lineout with Bonnaire leading, plus Parisse, Lawes and Albacete able to jump. This is a key area we want to target and emphasis on Hernandez and Halfpenny looking to put the ball deep into the Tigers half and placing Bruno's throwing under question.
- We do have a solid scrum with good form from Domingo, HArtley and Hayman, but see that Tigers do have a lot of strength here, so we will need to ensure as few handling errors as possible so they can't use this as a key area. With Parisse at no8 we do have a top class operator if our scrum does get pushed backwards.
- big emphasis this week on the breakdown, we will look to attack this area in numbers and force turnovers and dominate - have picked a fast, dynamic backrow, which has a lot of power to clear out any Tigers players around the fringes (Lawes, Messam etc). We will also look at Fofana and Tuilagi to do a job in midfield at the breakdown.
Attack -
- Our backs are putting in a big shift with ball carrying through the 12-13 combination, we will look at Fofana and Tuilagi to get us over the gainline and will use Savea as a battering ram through the middle. We look to play to our strengths and this is a key area.
- Hernandez to control the game at 10 with his kicking game and positional play by keeping us deep in the Tigers half, if we can keep them from the danger areas then our defence is very strong. Look for drop goal opportunities for Hernandez and keep the scoreboard ticking over at all times - Halfpenny to kick anything from within 50metres.
- Good form in the backline from 9-15, we've got to use out backs as much as possible with ball carrying and supporting the likes of Albacete, Lawes, Messam and Parisse. We also have a very experienced set of backs on the bench who can each change the game.
Defence -
- aggressive defence that is led by Lawes in the forwards and we will look to put in a huge defensive effort in the first 20mins to prevent Tigers building any form of momentum.
- will use the kicking game of Hernandez and Halfpenny to clear our lines, find touch and then place Tigers lineout under pressure. Message is getting the ball into touch, stopping Tigers game from flowing and keeping the home crowd silent.
- will implement a blitz defence, with Fofana and Tuilagi the defensive brick in the midfield, see if we can then force TIgers into a kicking game where we have Halfpenny at the back who should win any contest there.
Key points -
- Really good try scoring form from forwards and backs and a lot of players in very good form in real life.
- Rested key players last weekend to bring to Welford Road fresher.
- Look for Hernandez to win the tactical kicking battle with ball in hand kicks, probably best fly half in the world at that.
- Stop Tigers building momentum by putting the ball deep and long into their own half and then targetting the lineout for as much as possible.
London Welsh vs. Bath Rugby
Light rain, 8 degrees, 13mph wind
London Welsh
Manager – Ozzy3213
16. Chris Whitehead 17. Brett Sturgess 18. Adam Jones 19. Dean Schofield 20. Sione Kalamafoni 21. Charlie Davies 22. Andrew Trimble 23. Tom Homer
Tactics
Basic Game Plan
Basic tactical premise for us to control possession and be solid defensively. Focus will be on winning the gainline collisons in both attack and defence. In order to do this we have picked a very big pack to try to physically dominate this area of the game. We will look to apply pressure to Bath by keeping the ball for long periods and wearing them down defensively, and also by maintaining a solid defence and denying them opportunities to get on the score board. Pressure forces mistakes, and we will look to capitalise on any that Bath make.
Attacking specifics
Defensive specifics
Key Points
Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB
16. Charlie Faumuina 17. Chris Brooker 18. Jon Golding 19. Louis Deacon 20. Tom Guest 21. Richard Wigglesworth 22. Nopolini Nalaga 23. Stuart Hogg
Overall: Look to play the conditions throughout with Hodgson running the tempo. Use big runners/carries and go through the phases. Keep things simple in our own half and increase the pressure in opposition half.
Scrum: We will really look to attack and come out on top of the scrum. Our front five is a really strong unit, with two of the best props in Europe with Mealamu. Lobbe will control the scrum from number eight. Apply pressure and look to get nudge on throughout. Look to play the ref and if not going our way use as a restart.
Lineout: Our second row partnership is where we really feel we can have advantage. Whitelock and Lobbe are world class operators, backed up by Haskell and Kitchener we feel we can really get at the opposition throw. If we see any weakness we will look to slightly alter the game plan, looking for corners in order to put more pressure on the throw.
We will be looking for big carries from the forwards with the likes of Lobbe, Haskell and Healy dangerous runners who can really create gaps for our backs. We will be looking for lots of energy from our forwards to open up holes to be exploited. Our carrying is somewhere we feel we have a distinct advantage.
Breakdown: Look to clear hard and fast with Haskell and Healy looking to make a nuisance of themselves so Pocock can get his hands on opposition ball.
Backs: We will be looking to use the backs in order to create or go through holes. Smith and Hodgson will look to really get the backs going with a good tempo. Smith will attack fringes and try to keep the defence guessing. Look to get our big runners involved as early as possible with North, Rougerie, Jane seeing lots of the ball. If conditions improve look to use Hodgson to play running rugby. Miller is also a good runner who will look to use his boot occasionally to pen the Welsh defenders back and give us some territory with Lobbe leading the chase. We feel Farrell and Taute have potentially suspect defence which we look to expose.
Defence: Use a blitz defence in order to put pressure on Welsh’s key decision makers and prevent them from playing. Aaron Smith to sweep in behind. We will look to target Farrell early and pressure him into making mistakes. We feel this will stop fluidity in the Welsh backline
Substitutes: Our subs will come on and look to keep a high tempo. Brooker, Golding and Faumuina can come in and help strengthen our front row targeting Whitehead and Sturgess. Deacon and Guest will look to add grit late on. Wigglesworth has a lot of experience and will look to use it late on to control the tempo whereas we feel Davies’ inexperience might tell in a tight match. Nalaga and Hogg are two deadly runners who can come on and exploit tired legs, finding holes.
Sale Sharks vs. London Irish
Light rain, 7 degrees, 14mph wind
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
16. Jerome Schuster 17. Darren Dawdiuk 18. Luc Ducalcon 19. Dave Attwood 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Ben Spencer 22. James Hook 23. Will Addison
Key Points
Tactics
We will look to play a fast paced attacking game using big carriers running of the 9/10/12 axis to get us over the gain line and generate quick ball. Keeping the ball alive is crucial so our carriers will be looking for support runners to hit on the offload when it’s on and get us further over the gain line. Our back three will look to get involved as much as possible running support lines of the halfbacks and midfield looking for the inside ball or offload. If for whatever reason we aren’t getting quick ball, we will look to take control of territory with the boots of Sexton & Steyn and force Irish to come at us from deep.
London Irish
Manager – stnick88
16. Grant Shiells 17. Tom Lindsay 18. Martin Castrogiovanni 19. Nick Kennedy 20. Will Fraser 21. Julien Dupuy 22. Shane Geraghty 23. Sireli Naqalevuki
London Irish make two changes from last weeks win over Harlequins. Andrew Hore and Matt Stevens come in to the front row in place of Tom Lindsay and Martin Castrogiovanni, who drop to the bench. New signing Will Fraser makes the subs bench after impressing in an 'A' game on Monday.
'We played some good rugby last week and I want to keep things consistent. The League is our primary focus this season and I want to build momentum and keep in the top 4. Castro has played a lot of games this season so deserves a rest, and bringing Matt in gives us another good ball carrying option as well as a solid set piece. It's good to have Andrew Hore back as well. Tom Lindsay has done very well but played a lot of games so thoroughly deserves a rest. Andrew is a great scrummager, hits his man in the lineout and is great on the deck. He can win us turnovers and along with Steff makes us formidable at the breakdown.'
Tactics
- Play the game in the right areas. Pienaar, Evans and Mac to dictate this. We can still attack and will still run the ball but also we want to dominate territory. Our 9,10,12 are on good form and can control the game for us.
- Armitage will look to dominate the breakdown, win us penalties and secure quick ball. Hore will also support him in this area. With Evans and Mac in attack we have great playmakers who can put people like Bast, JP, Yarde and Delon in space. JP will come off his wing and look for gaps to be put through.
- Evans to kick all pens for goal, if out of range go for touch. Muller is our main lineout jumper but Garvey and Daniel will also be used to keep Sale guessing. We will look for quick ball off the top and use Bast as a decoy runner as well as ball carrier to get over the gainline.
- We will target the scrum with two big powerful scrummaging props on our side. We will look to win as many pens as poss to kick points from.
- We have a lot of form players, in key positions like 8, 9, 10, 12. With Steffon at 7 we have the form 7 in the NH and will look to boss the breakdown and control the game at home.
Saracens vs. London Wasps
Light rain, 8 degrees, 12mph wind
Saracens
Manager – Driver
16.Hika Elliot 17.Max Lahiff 18.Phil Swainstone 19.Tim Swinson 20.Alessandro Zanni 21.Will Chudley 22.Ronan O'Gara 23.Chris Bell
Saracens will look too play a physical game in weather with dictates it. Mullen and Jannie Du Plessie will look to smash the Wasps props at the scrum and Chuter will look to test TPN patience in a game where the margins will make the difference. We have gone for a massive pairing in the engine room with Flip Van Der Merwe packing down to add a real physical presence and dominate Manoa in this part of the game , Williams is widely acknoladged as quality lineout operator and is a class above Wentzel who is struggling in real life.
Phil Dowson and Ross Rennie will look to smash every tackle and get to there fight to make a mess of the Wasps breakdown to slow down there ball to the finest margins of the rule book and offer them selves in the loose running off shoulders and looking for the offload. JVN will keep things tidy at the base and clean up any mess and carry at Priestland.
JMD and FTD will play it as there see mixing the game up and dictating the tempo through kicks to the corner and taking the ball to the gain line to hit our big runners on the outside.
Nonu will look to test the opposition by hitting the ball on the gainline and trying to keep Baritt occupied in defence to allow Trinder and the back 3 to come hit the games off his shoulder.
Cueto , Visser and Smith are all suited for this tight game and posses solid kicking games , however if there is a chance to attack the dogleg we will shift the ball to the space and attack
KEY POINTS
*Test Ojo and Banahans' kicking game by kicking the ball in behind them and forcing them to kick it back
* Kicks to Mike Brown to be booted into the cloud to put pressure on him and force a mistake.
*Shorten the lineout and use the likes of FVM and JVN to carry in the midfield.
*Full lineouts Visser to come running short off the tail in the same way North does for Wales and exploit the gap between the OS and 10
*BLITZ DEFENSE with JMD sweeping behind
*JMD to kick all penalties in there half to build a sizeable lead
London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry
16. Sean Cronin 17. Charlie Beech 18. Shaun Knight 19. Mouritz Botha 20. Jonathan Poff 21. Mike Blair 22. Steven Myler 23. Tom Varndell
Tactics
We will look to our forwards to carry hard, attacking gaps in the Saracens defensive line, getting us over the gain line and onto the front foot. We will ensure our carriers have plenty of support, so we can continue our attacks. We will look to attack space and suck in Saracens defenders with some powerful carrying.
We will look to recycle the ball by getting good numbers to the breakdown, with the first few players rucking past the ball to clear out the Saracens players, allowing Thomas to get quick, clean ball for us to attack the space on offer. We will look to ruck aggressively and really look to take the physical battle to Saracens. We will look to create mismatches in midfield and will target the outside shoulder of the Saracens players.
Line speed and aggression is key for us in defence, we will try and prevent Saracens from having time on the ball by having quick line speed and tackling their carriers before they reach the gain line, knocking them back and forcing them into mistakes, where we can exert pressure and try and get turnovers.
Preistland will look to kick in behind the Sarries wingers and put us deep into their territory where we will look to really pressurize them and look to force them into errors. Thomas will look to snipe around the fringes and get our forwards coming onto the ball and making good yards each time they carry.
Wentzel will be our main go to man, we will also look to use Mafi and Wilson at the tail of the lineout where we can launch attacks from and get our big centers running at the Sarries fly half, whom our back row will look to be in the face of all game.
With the ball in hand, we will look to punch holes in the Sarries defensive line and get the ball to our back three. Barritt will look to take the contact and give us line breaking options with Pisi running good outside lines, we will attack gaps and half gaps in the Saracens defensive line. We willl look to Banahan to come in off his wing to give us another crash ball option.
At the scrum, on our own ball, we will look to turn the scrum legally to erase the Sarries back row from helping out in defence before starting our own attacks. We will look to control possession and be patient, recycling the ball through several phases with Thomas and Preistland controlling our play.
Teams to be named by midnight on Thursday 1st November 2012.
Predictions by 20:00 hours on Saturday 3rd November 2012.
Predictions by 20:00 hours on Saturday 3rd November 2012.
Newcastle Falcons vs. Worcester Warriors
Light rain, 7 degrees, 14mph wind
Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly
01. Fabien Barcella | 09. Ben Youngs |
02. Rory Best | 10. Aaron Cruden |
03. Owen Franks | |
04. Yoann Maestri | 11. Miles Benjamin |
05. Geoff Parling | 12. Sonny Bill Williams |
06. Chris Robshaw | 13. Adam Ashley-Cooper |
07. Richie McCaw(c) | 14. Tommy Bowe |
08. Kieran Read | 15. Alex Goode |
16. Lee Mears 17. Paul Doran-Jones 18. Soane Tonga'uiha 19. Ed Slater 20. Heinrich Brussow 21. Luke Burgess 22. Toby Flood 23. George Lowe
Tactics
HOME FORM - WON EVERY GAME AT HOME FOR OVER 2 YEARS
WINNING - WE HAVE PLAYERS THAT KNOW HOW TO WIN EVERY GAME IN MCCAW, READ, FRANKS, CRUDEN, SBW
Gameplan – Simple rugby, High intensity.......With the game in damp conditions we’ll be looking to control the set piece, pack and look to play in the right areas of the pitch. Cruden will dictate play and will look to clear his lines from our own 22. We’ll look to put pressure on the opposition set piece throughout the game and we think we can get the upperhand in both scrum & lineout.
Defence – We’ll be deploying the rush defence looking to narrow the options for the oposition. McCaw will look to put pressure on Barkley throughout and force him to rush his game.
Set piece – Damp conditions usually means plenty of knock on which means plenty of scrums. We’ve went for a hefty scrummaging unit to really tear into Worcester from the off. Franks & Barcella will look to get secure a good platform and attack if a weakness seen. (Anyone who see Barcella at weekend will know he has his scrum mojo back!). Maestri will back up Franks as a real scrummaging lock and look to put pressure on the Opp LH/HK.
We’ll look for the take and drive on our own ball with Best/Maestri being the key men here. With 5 good jumpers and Parling pulling the strings we’ll keep things solid on our own throw whilst looking to target the opposition throw all game.
Pack – We’ve went for numerous carrying options in the pack and will look to use short pick and drives and keep things simple. McCaw & Robshaw will lead the assault and will also look to make a bit of a mess of the breakdown. With the poor conditions they’ll be plenty of opportunity to get hands in rucks and force turnover ball which will be used to force Worcester retreating back.
Backs – Big backline to help get us over the game line and punch holes in the opposition defence (SBW & AAC particular) SBW will look for flat straight simple passes from the halfbacks and get between the Worcester 10/12 combo. Cruden to play the conditions and unleash as needed(used to the rain plaining in NZ).
Goode will add a top draw tactical kicking option in the back 3 and look to hit the corners if weakness seen in the opp lineout.
KEY POINTS:
HOME ADVANTAGE- Won every game at home in over 2 years
LEAGUE FORM- In the mix and one of form teams in league despite loss of big name players
RETURN OF SH PLAYERS - We are raised by the return of our world class players McCaw, Franks, Read, Cruden, AAC offer us a real lift and tempo will be off the chart!!
Worceseter Warriors
Manager - prop_lyd
01.Beast | 09.Eion Reddan |
02.Richardt Strauss | 10.Olly Barkley (k) |
03.BJ Botha | |
04.Tom Savage | 11.Julien Malzieu |
05.Jim Hamilton (c) | 12. Pat McCabe |
06.Ryan Jones | 13.Matt Hopper |
07.Justin Tipuric | 14.James Short |
08.Ben Morgan | 15.Rob Cook |
16.Dave Ward 17.Paul James 18.Chris Budgen 19.Ollie Kohn 20.Mamuka Gorgodze 21.Dwayne Peel 22.Morne Steyn/Sean Maitland (if Steyn banned) 23.Sam Vesty
Tactics
We have confidence coming into this match after 2 good wins in the Amlin cup and now the victory over Sale picking up the squad's confidence and making them want more. The Warriors are hungry for Falcon blood! We have selected a big pack who will look to keep the ball up their jumpers and a set of backs who are good both defensively and on the counter.
Forwards
*Front row to look to get the nudge on and we have 2 good props to come on later on to maintain the pressure. Strauss will look to get round the park.
*Big 2nd row pairing who will look to wind up their opposition and do the donkey work around the park. Hamilton will contest at the lineouts which Jones will lead.
*Back Row are good at the breakdown and we have strong, fast carriers who will offer themselves off the 10-12 channel and the 12-13 one to look to spread their defence. Tips will look for turnover ball with Jones and Morgan will look to create the gaps. Gorgodze will continue with the hard running.
Backs
*Quick ball to Barkley who will play with his head up and look to play quick rugby only if on, if not we will look to pin Falcons into the corners and force them to run from deep.
*McCabe to be his usual influential self and give good ball to Hopper who will use his offloading skills to release the runners and outside backs.
*Pace in the back 3 with Malzieu bringing the force. Cook and Short will look to hit the angles.
*Bench: if Steyn is on it then he will bring more control/Vesty'll come on for an extra boot/McFadden will bring pace and strong running.
Defence
*McCabe to lead this.
*Fast blitz banana defence with Reddan sweeping.
*A back 5 player to be on the tacklers shoulders to be first at the breakdown to look to either slow down ball or turn it over. They will look to support tackling in the 9-10-12 channels.
*If we get turnover and nothing is on we will ping to the corner.
Overall Play
*Strong carrying up front with the first 20 minutes being the forwards taking the ball in and creating the overlaps.
*Backs to play with their heads up and if it's on to break through the gaps and look for the offloads, if it's wet it'll be more up the jumper rugby!
*Barkley/McCabe/Cook to pin Falcons back but make sure their kicks go out of play and stop quick counter attacks.
*Barkley to take anything that's kickable.
We've caused one upset and won't take Newcastle lightly.........no respect and on our day we can push any team and this season we have beaten Gloucester in pre-season and Sale in the league which were both shock defeats showing we have it in up!!
Harlequins vs. Gloucester
Light rain, 9 degrees, 12mph wind
Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks
01. Tony Woodcock | 09. Lee Dickson (c) |
02. Schalk Brits | 10. Freddie Burns (k) |
03. John Afoa | |
04. Bakkies Botha | 11. Yoann Huget |
05. Steve Borthwick | 12. Jamie Roberts |
06. Tom Wood | 13. Jonathan Joseph |
07. Michael Hooper | 14. Taku Ngwenya |
08. Nick Easter | 15. Rob Kearney |
16. Rob Buchanan 17. Joe Marler 18. Ben Franks 19. George Kruis 20. Sam Warburton 21. Karl Dickson 22. Greig Laidlaw 23. Florian Fritz
Tactics
Game Plan
Play our usual game of strong carries up front and aggressive rucking allowing us to spread the ball wider and get our outside backs into space. We will look to play at a quick tempo controlled by our half backs. We will also look to retain possession and not kick aimlessly. We will look predominantly for our front 5 to carry off 9 and 10 with our backrow carrying off 10 and 12.
When our players are carrying we are looking for them to win the collisions and keep the legs pumping after contact. We will look to run at spaces rather than faces and look to offload if it is on.
All our players have an integral part to play in our rucking game. We need to get men to the breakdown early and ruck past the ball and move any Gloucester players from the breakdown. Quick ball for Lee Dickson is important to us. We want to run at an unorganized defence so there is less time for Gloucester to reorganize the better.
Set piece
In Borthwick we have as gooder line out technician as you could ask for. He will use himself, Botha and Wood as our key jumpers with Hooper and Easter usually in the midfield as carriers. Borthwick will also look to take Gloucester's lineout apart.
At the scrum we will look to put huge pressure on with Woodcock and Afoa both top class scrumagers.
Backs
Will look to Burns to put Roberts and Joseph into space, both of whom cut brilliant lines. Also have the option of Rob Kearney joining the line at pace and the blindside winger will also look to join the line. Will look for mismatches in the defensive line.
Defence
Quick linespeed is crucial as is pressurising Gloucester's key decision makers. We will look to double up on the tackle with one man looking to take the legs and the other concentrating on the ball. At the breakdown Hooper will look to disrupt and we will look to slow down the ball legally when we have the numbers in defence. We will look to knock back Gloucester carriers and win the collisions. This will stop Gloucester's momentum and allow us to attack the breakdown.
Gloucester
Manager – Mat
01.Guthro Steenkamp | 09. Will Genia |
02. Joe Grey | 10. Dan Carter |
03. Nicola Mas | |
04. Eben Etzbeth | 11. JSD |
05. George Robson | 12. Berrick Barnes |
06. Willem Alberts | 13. Juan de Jongh |
07. Alexandre Lapandry | 14. Charlie Sharples |
08. Immanol harinordoqouy | 15. Johnny May |
16. Nick Wood17.Jamie George 18. Rupert Harden 19. Tom Palmer 20.Jamie Heaslip 21. Dan Robson 22. Israel Dagg. 23 Richard Kahui
Tactics
fresh from beating unbeaten leicester glos travel to quins looking for the win
We will be aiming to play a high tempo quick game when possible however we will look to play territory and push quins back to start with and force them to play from areas they dont want to play from. we see our kicking game as being the key to gaining the chance to open up.
- We Have the ability to play the game many different ways and the ability to raise and slow the tempo as desired
- Key decision makers at 2,8,9,10,12
- Target the scrum with Steenkamp, grey and Mas a formidable unit.
- We will attack all lineouts as we see this as a massive area for us Hari, etzbeth, Robson, Lapandry, Alberts will be looking to starve quins of lineout ball.
- Packed with ball carriers and dynamism we will be carrying it in to the heart of quins looking for gaps and offloads to keep the ball moving
- All glos back 3 looking to attack at any oipportunity and exploit mismatches. they play as a unit in real life which is a huge advantage
- Great kicking options with Genia, carter and Barnes able to control the game where needed but also capable of launching blistering attacks
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We will use a blitz defence with centres up quick as we see the ball from yach to wilko being slow and enabling us to get in their faces.
- huge impact bench with palmer heaslip dagg and kahui all coming on to sure up the win
Key points
- lineout domination- lineout is one of the key areas of possession and pressure
- Tempo- Glos can play the game many ways allowing variety. we see dickson and burns losing out in a tactical battle
- Real life form- tons of players in excellent form
- Decision makers in all the key positions
- key players back from the RC
impact bench
we were the first to topple leicester and have great momentum
Leicester Tigers vs. Northampton Saints
Light rain, 7 degrees, 14mph wind
Leicester Tigers
Manager – LukeLovesLuka
01. Andrew Sheridan | 09. Dimitri Yachvili |
02. Sebastien Bruno | 10. Jonny Wilkinson (k) |
03. Dan Cole | |
04. Pascal Pape | 11. Ugo Monye |
05. Alistair Hargreaves | 12. Maxime Mermoz |
06. Sean O'Brien | 13. Brian O'Driscoll (c) |
07. Francois Louw | 14. Vincent Clerc |
08. Thomas Waldrom | 15. Kurtley Beale |
Tactics:
In wet conditions we will play to our strengths and play a game built around our intelligent HB's controlling the game, the power of our pack and the strength in our set piece.
- No overly ambitious passing - In wet conditions we will either look to kick to gain territory or look to keep ball in hand and take it through the middle.
- Attack at all scrums with our huge pack - Cole, Bruno and Sheridan as a unit, with Pape and Hargreaves' power behind, to look to really get the shove on. Jenkins and Johnston to pile the pressure on agaianst the likes of Webber and Thomas in the second half.
- Attack at all lineouts. Our lineout is led by Hargreaves; with Pape, SOB and Louw as our other jumping options.
Some great lineout stealers in our ranks who will pressure every one of Hartley's throws.
- Gigantic pack made up of massive line-breakers, used in the tight to tire down the Saints defence. The likes of Waldrom, SOB, Pape, Louw and Hargreaves to be used to crash through the Saints defence.
- Huge emphasis on our work at the breakdown today and we will always look to turnover possession. With Louw, and the likes of SOB, Cole and BOD, we feel our breakdown play could be crucial today.
- In general attacking play, we will play off 9 with Yachvili our general pulling the strings. We want Yach and Wilko to control the game, mixing up the point of our attack and looking for where the gaps are.
- We will look to employ a blitz defence, focusing on a quick line speed to hit the ball carrier before he gets to the gainline. We have aggressive forwards to carry out this instruction. Yachvili to sweep behind with an eye on short kicks.
- Unload our powerful bench to impact the game in the second half.
- Wilkinson to kick all penalites.
Key Points:
Home Advantage
Our home record is sensational, and we always feel we will win games at Welford Road. We feel we have the players to control the game, and in front of our own fans, Welford Road is a fortress.
Breakdown Advantage
We are placing huge emphasis on our work at the breakdown today. With breakdown expert Francois Louw - supported by the likes of SOB, Cole and BOD, we feel our breakdown play could be crucial. Any opportunity that we get, we will look to win turnover ball.
Weather Conditions
In strong winds and rain, our side is at its best. Controlling, tactical HB's, and a massive pack full of carriers. Play to our strengths, and play to the weather, and force Saints into mistakes for Wilko to take the points.
Northampton Saints
Manager - dammit_chris
01. Thomas Domingo | 09. Joe Simpson |
02. Dylan Hartley (c) | 10. Juan Martin Hernandez |
03. Carl Hayman | |
04. Courtney Lawes | 11. Chris Ashton |
05. Patricio Albacete | 12. Wesley Fofana |
06. Liam Messam | 13. Manu Tuilagi |
07. Julian Bonnaire | 14. Julian Savea |
08. Sergio Parisse | 15. Leigh Halfpenny (k) |
16. Rob Webber 17. Sona Taumalolo 18. Henry Thomas 19. Joe Launchbury 20. Billy Vunipola 21. Mike Phillips 22. Matt Giteau 23. Ben Foden
Tactics
Overview - the conditions are light rain, which will suit the Saints gameplan of looking for Hernandez and Halfpenny to control the game with their boots and kicking the ball deep into the Tigers own half. Relying on our lineout that is led by Bonnaire to place Tigers under pressure. We then want to give the ball to our backline that is full of gainline breakers and power. We will look to place Tigers under pressure with an aggressive defence, force mistakes and attack the breakdown in numbers. We will play a simple structured game and power our way up through the midfield.
For those who mention Hernandez is out of form would suggest looking at his performances in the Rugby Championship and not the week he flew back from Argentina to play for Racing. We are looking to use his tactical kicking game throughout the match to keep Saints in the right areas.
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Pack/SetPiece/Breakdown
- Will look to work through the phases and work around the fringes to make hard yards and give Hernandez a platform to put the ball into the Tigers half, aiming for touch and lineouts. Looking to get Messam, Parisse, Lawes and Albacete on the ball as much as possible.
- We think we have an advantage with the lineout with Bonnaire leading, plus Parisse, Lawes and Albacete able to jump. This is a key area we want to target and emphasis on Hernandez and Halfpenny looking to put the ball deep into the Tigers half and placing Bruno's throwing under question.
- We do have a solid scrum with good form from Domingo, HArtley and Hayman, but see that Tigers do have a lot of strength here, so we will need to ensure as few handling errors as possible so they can't use this as a key area. With Parisse at no8 we do have a top class operator if our scrum does get pushed backwards.
- big emphasis this week on the breakdown, we will look to attack this area in numbers and force turnovers and dominate - have picked a fast, dynamic backrow, which has a lot of power to clear out any Tigers players around the fringes (Lawes, Messam etc). We will also look at Fofana and Tuilagi to do a job in midfield at the breakdown.
Attack -
- Our backs are putting in a big shift with ball carrying through the 12-13 combination, we will look at Fofana and Tuilagi to get us over the gainline and will use Savea as a battering ram through the middle. We look to play to our strengths and this is a key area.
- Hernandez to control the game at 10 with his kicking game and positional play by keeping us deep in the Tigers half, if we can keep them from the danger areas then our defence is very strong. Look for drop goal opportunities for Hernandez and keep the scoreboard ticking over at all times - Halfpenny to kick anything from within 50metres.
- Good form in the backline from 9-15, we've got to use out backs as much as possible with ball carrying and supporting the likes of Albacete, Lawes, Messam and Parisse. We also have a very experienced set of backs on the bench who can each change the game.
Defence -
- aggressive defence that is led by Lawes in the forwards and we will look to put in a huge defensive effort in the first 20mins to prevent Tigers building any form of momentum.
- will use the kicking game of Hernandez and Halfpenny to clear our lines, find touch and then place Tigers lineout under pressure. Message is getting the ball into touch, stopping Tigers game from flowing and keeping the home crowd silent.
- will implement a blitz defence, with Fofana and Tuilagi the defensive brick in the midfield, see if we can then force TIgers into a kicking game where we have Halfpenny at the back who should win any contest there.
Key points -
- Really good try scoring form from forwards and backs and a lot of players in very good form in real life.
- Rested key players last weekend to bring to Welford Road fresher.
- Look for Hernandez to win the tactical kicking battle with ball in hand kicks, probably best fly half in the world at that.
- Stop Tigers building momentum by putting the ball deep and long into their own half and then targetting the lineout for as much as possible.
London Welsh vs. Bath Rugby
Light rain, 8 degrees, 13mph wind
London Welsh
Manager – Ozzy3213
01. Alex Corbisiero | 09. Morgan Parra |
02. Bismarck du Plessis | 10. Patric Lambie |
03. Dave Wilson | |
04. Sitaleki Timani | 11. Digby Ioane |
05. George Skivington | 12. Owen Farrell |
06. Tom Johnson | 13. Jonathan Davies |
07. Thierry Dusautoir © | 14. Bryan Habana |
08. Duane Vermeulen | 15. Jaco Taute |
16. Chris Whitehead 17. Brett Sturgess 18. Adam Jones 19. Dean Schofield 20. Sione Kalamafoni 21. Charlie Davies 22. Andrew Trimble 23. Tom Homer
Tactics
Basic Game Plan
Basic tactical premise for us to control possession and be solid defensively. Focus will be on winning the gainline collisons in both attack and defence. In order to do this we have picked a very big pack to try to physically dominate this area of the game. We will look to apply pressure to Bath by keeping the ball for long periods and wearing them down defensively, and also by maintaining a solid defence and denying them opportunities to get on the score board. Pressure forces mistakes, and we will look to capitalise on any that Bath make.
Attacking specifics
- In damp conditions we will look to keep possession and run the ball, but willkeep it tight to ensure that we don't spill the ball and lose possession. Parra and Lambie will dictate the tempo and angles of attack. Ioane and Habana will both look to hit good lines off the 10, 12 and 13's shoulders. We will also use them as decoys with Taute hitting the line looking for gaps.
- Big carriers to run hard and straight in midfield off early phase ball.
- Support runners to ruck past the ball quickly if the carrier goes to ground in order to secure quick ball to go again.
- Ball carrier to target Bath back row making them the tacklers, with support runners then hitting the ruck hard and early and burying them at the bottom of the ruck ensure that they cannot effect turnovers.
Defensive specifics
- We will look to play a blitz defence with quick line speed to hit the ball carrier before he gets to the gainline and knock him back even further. Parra will sweep in behind.
- We will not overcommit to the breakdown. If a turnover is on, we will go for it, otherwise we will legally slow the ball and maintain a solid defensive line to blitz from.
- Maintain discipline and do not give away penalties.
Key Points
- Home advantage.
- We come in with confidence, having picked up points in every game so far this season and having won our last 4 games on the trot and 5 of our last 6.
- Strength, quality and consistency in the key controlling positions (2,8,9 and 10).
- We are solid defensively in midfield with real attacking threat out wide.
- We have no traditional fetcher, but with BdP in the side the balance of our pack is good as he is better at the breakdown than most opensides.
- Our bench will only be used for tactical or injury replacements and will not just be unloaded as a matter of course.
- Our key area of focus is to dominate to collisions at the contact area. From there we feel we can control the game.
Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB
01. Cian Healy | 09. Aaron Smith |
02. Kevin Mealamu | 10. Charlie Hodgson |
03. Davit Kubrashvilli | |
04. Graham Kitchener | 11. George North |
05. Sam Whitelock | 12. Anthony Allen |
06. James Haskell | 13. Aurelien Rougerie |
07. David Pocock | 14. Cory Jane |
08. Juan Martin Fernando Lobbe | 15. Rob Miller |
Overall: Look to play the conditions throughout with Hodgson running the tempo. Use big runners/carries and go through the phases. Keep things simple in our own half and increase the pressure in opposition half.
Scrum: We will really look to attack and come out on top of the scrum. Our front five is a really strong unit, with two of the best props in Europe with Mealamu. Lobbe will control the scrum from number eight. Apply pressure and look to get nudge on throughout. Look to play the ref and if not going our way use as a restart.
Lineout: Our second row partnership is where we really feel we can have advantage. Whitelock and Lobbe are world class operators, backed up by Haskell and Kitchener we feel we can really get at the opposition throw. If we see any weakness we will look to slightly alter the game plan, looking for corners in order to put more pressure on the throw.
We will be looking for big carries from the forwards with the likes of Lobbe, Haskell and Healy dangerous runners who can really create gaps for our backs. We will be looking for lots of energy from our forwards to open up holes to be exploited. Our carrying is somewhere we feel we have a distinct advantage.
Breakdown: Look to clear hard and fast with Haskell and Healy looking to make a nuisance of themselves so Pocock can get his hands on opposition ball.
Backs: We will be looking to use the backs in order to create or go through holes. Smith and Hodgson will look to really get the backs going with a good tempo. Smith will attack fringes and try to keep the defence guessing. Look to get our big runners involved as early as possible with North, Rougerie, Jane seeing lots of the ball. If conditions improve look to use Hodgson to play running rugby. Miller is also a good runner who will look to use his boot occasionally to pen the Welsh defenders back and give us some territory with Lobbe leading the chase. We feel Farrell and Taute have potentially suspect defence which we look to expose.
Defence: Use a blitz defence in order to put pressure on Welsh’s key decision makers and prevent them from playing. Aaron Smith to sweep in behind. We will look to target Farrell early and pressure him into making mistakes. We feel this will stop fluidity in the Welsh backline
Substitutes: Our subs will come on and look to keep a high tempo. Brooker, Golding and Faumuina can come in and help strengthen our front row targeting Whitehead and Sturgess. Deacon and Guest will look to add grit late on. Wigglesworth has a lot of experience and will look to use it late on to control the tempo whereas we feel Davies’ inexperience might tell in a tight match. Nalaga and Hogg are two deadly runners who can come on and exploit tired legs, finding holes.
Sale Sharks vs. London Irish
Light rain, 7 degrees, 14mph wind
Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE
01. Marcos Ayerza | 09. Danny Care |
02. David Paice | 10. Johnny Sexton |
03. Davit Zirakishvilli | |
04. Brodie Retalick | 11. David Strettle |
05. Andries Bekker | 12. Francois Steyn |
06. Adam Thomson | 13. Robbie Freuen |
07. Peter O'Mahony | 14. Kyle Eastmond |
08. Louis Picamoles | 15. Nick Abendanon |
Key Points
- Ayerza starts at LH for his ability at the scrum. He will look to get at Stevens from the start!
- We have serious power to bring on in the front 5 late on in the game and see the scrum as an area we can dominate.
- We have superb form throughout the side in real life with Ayerza, Zirka, Retalick, Bekker, POM, Pickles, Care, Sexton, Steyn, Freuen, Eastmond and Bendy all showing strongly in recent games for club/country.
Tactics
We will look to play a fast paced attacking game using big carriers running of the 9/10/12 axis to get us over the gain line and generate quick ball. Keeping the ball alive is crucial so our carriers will be looking for support runners to hit on the offload when it’s on and get us further over the gain line. Our back three will look to get involved as much as possible running support lines of the halfbacks and midfield looking for the inside ball or offload. If for whatever reason we aren’t getting quick ball, we will look to take control of territory with the boots of Sexton & Steyn and force Irish to come at us from deep.
- With a powerful front 5 on show we will look to keep the scrum up and use it as a weapon. On our own feed we will look to get the wheel on and give our 8-9-10 axis as much room as possible to attack from.
- In Irish territory, with 5 jumping options to use, we will look to play off the top and move the ball out to Sexton and the backs. In our own territory, we will look to take the ball down into the maul and drive ourselves into the right areas.
- We will play an aggressive blitz on defence, playing on the edge of the offside line and coming up at pace, looking to isolate the ball carrier and stop any Irish momentum before it can get going.
- Care will act as a sweeper and cover any chips or grubbers behind the defensive line.
- We will leave two players sitting deep to cover any kicks and they will look to counter attack of any loose ball.
- With the blitz in operation, we will look to be at the breakdown first hitting it hard and fast. If the ball looks available we will flood the breakdown with Thomson & POM looking to get his hands on the ball.
- If the ball is not immediately available we will only commit 1 or 2 players to legally slow the ball down and instead look to strengthen the defensive line.
London Irish
Manager – stnick88
01. Jean Baptiste Poux | 09. Ruan Pienaar |
02. Andrew Hore | 10. Nick Evans |
03. Matt Stevens | |
04. Matt Garvey | 11. Marland Yarde |
05. Johann Muller | 12. Luke McAllister |
06. Marcell Coeztee | 13. Mathieu Bastereaud |
07. Steffon Armitage | 14. JP Pieterson |
08. Keegan Daniel | 15. Delon Armitage |
16. Grant Shiells 17. Tom Lindsay 18. Martin Castrogiovanni 19. Nick Kennedy 20. Will Fraser 21. Julien Dupuy 22. Shane Geraghty 23. Sireli Naqalevuki
London Irish make two changes from last weeks win over Harlequins. Andrew Hore and Matt Stevens come in to the front row in place of Tom Lindsay and Martin Castrogiovanni, who drop to the bench. New signing Will Fraser makes the subs bench after impressing in an 'A' game on Monday.
'We played some good rugby last week and I want to keep things consistent. The League is our primary focus this season and I want to build momentum and keep in the top 4. Castro has played a lot of games this season so deserves a rest, and bringing Matt in gives us another good ball carrying option as well as a solid set piece. It's good to have Andrew Hore back as well. Tom Lindsay has done very well but played a lot of games so thoroughly deserves a rest. Andrew is a great scrummager, hits his man in the lineout and is great on the deck. He can win us turnovers and along with Steff makes us formidable at the breakdown.'
Tactics
- Play the game in the right areas. Pienaar, Evans and Mac to dictate this. We can still attack and will still run the ball but also we want to dominate territory. Our 9,10,12 are on good form and can control the game for us.
- Armitage will look to dominate the breakdown, win us penalties and secure quick ball. Hore will also support him in this area. With Evans and Mac in attack we have great playmakers who can put people like Bast, JP, Yarde and Delon in space. JP will come off his wing and look for gaps to be put through.
- Evans to kick all pens for goal, if out of range go for touch. Muller is our main lineout jumper but Garvey and Daniel will also be used to keep Sale guessing. We will look for quick ball off the top and use Bast as a decoy runner as well as ball carrier to get over the gainline.
- We will target the scrum with two big powerful scrummaging props on our side. We will look to win as many pens as poss to kick points from.
- We have a lot of form players, in key positions like 8, 9, 10, 12. With Steffon at 7 we have the form 7 in the NH and will look to boss the breakdown and control the game at home.
Saracens vs. London Wasps
Light rain, 8 degrees, 12mph wind
Saracens
Manager – Driver
01.Matt Mullen | 09.Jean Doussain(k) |
02.George Chuter | 10.Francios Trinh-Duc |
03.Jannie Du Plessie | |
04.Flip Van Der Merwe | 11.Mark Cueto |
05.Ali Williams | 12.Ma'a Nonu |
06.Phil Dowson | 13.Henry Trinder |
07.Ross Rennie | 14.Tim Visser |
08.Joe Van Nikerk (c) | 15.Ben Smith |
16.Hika Elliot 17.Max Lahiff 18.Phil Swainstone 19.Tim Swinson 20.Alessandro Zanni 21.Will Chudley 22.Ronan O'Gara 23.Chris Bell
Saracens will look too play a physical game in weather with dictates it. Mullen and Jannie Du Plessie will look to smash the Wasps props at the scrum and Chuter will look to test TPN patience in a game where the margins will make the difference. We have gone for a massive pairing in the engine room with Flip Van Der Merwe packing down to add a real physical presence and dominate Manoa in this part of the game , Williams is widely acknoladged as quality lineout operator and is a class above Wentzel who is struggling in real life.
Phil Dowson and Ross Rennie will look to smash every tackle and get to there fight to make a mess of the Wasps breakdown to slow down there ball to the finest margins of the rule book and offer them selves in the loose running off shoulders and looking for the offload. JVN will keep things tidy at the base and clean up any mess and carry at Priestland.
JMD and FTD will play it as there see mixing the game up and dictating the tempo through kicks to the corner and taking the ball to the gain line to hit our big runners on the outside.
Nonu will look to test the opposition by hitting the ball on the gainline and trying to keep Baritt occupied in defence to allow Trinder and the back 3 to come hit the games off his shoulder.
Cueto , Visser and Smith are all suited for this tight game and posses solid kicking games , however if there is a chance to attack the dogleg we will shift the ball to the space and attack
KEY POINTS
*Test Ojo and Banahans' kicking game by kicking the ball in behind them and forcing them to kick it back
* Kicks to Mike Brown to be booted into the cloud to put pressure on him and force a mistake.
*Shorten the lineout and use the likes of FVM and JVN to carry in the midfield.
*Full lineouts Visser to come running short off the tail in the same way North does for Wales and exploit the gap between the OS and 10
*BLITZ DEFENSE with JMD sweeping behind
*JMD to kick all penalties in there half to build a sizeable lead
London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry
01. Benn Robinson | 09. Haydn Thomas |
02. Tatafu Polota-Nau | 10. Rhys Preistland (k) |
03. Carlos Nieto | |
04. Samu Manoa | 11. Matt Banahan |
05. Marco Wentzel (c) | 12. Brad Barritt |
06. Steve Mafi | 13. George Pisi |
07. Liam Gill | 14. Topsy Ojo |
08. Roger Wilson | 15. Mike Brown |
16. Sean Cronin 17. Charlie Beech 18. Shaun Knight 19. Mouritz Botha 20. Jonathan Poff 21. Mike Blair 22. Steven Myler 23. Tom Varndell
Tactics
We will look to our forwards to carry hard, attacking gaps in the Saracens defensive line, getting us over the gain line and onto the front foot. We will ensure our carriers have plenty of support, so we can continue our attacks. We will look to attack space and suck in Saracens defenders with some powerful carrying.
We will look to recycle the ball by getting good numbers to the breakdown, with the first few players rucking past the ball to clear out the Saracens players, allowing Thomas to get quick, clean ball for us to attack the space on offer. We will look to ruck aggressively and really look to take the physical battle to Saracens. We will look to create mismatches in midfield and will target the outside shoulder of the Saracens players.
Line speed and aggression is key for us in defence, we will try and prevent Saracens from having time on the ball by having quick line speed and tackling their carriers before they reach the gain line, knocking them back and forcing them into mistakes, where we can exert pressure and try and get turnovers.
Preistland will look to kick in behind the Sarries wingers and put us deep into their territory where we will look to really pressurize them and look to force them into errors. Thomas will look to snipe around the fringes and get our forwards coming onto the ball and making good yards each time they carry.
Wentzel will be our main go to man, we will also look to use Mafi and Wilson at the tail of the lineout where we can launch attacks from and get our big centers running at the Sarries fly half, whom our back row will look to be in the face of all game.
With the ball in hand, we will look to punch holes in the Sarries defensive line and get the ball to our back three. Barritt will look to take the contact and give us line breaking options with Pisi running good outside lines, we will attack gaps and half gaps in the Saracens defensive line. We willl look to Banahan to come in off his wing to give us another crash ball option.
At the scrum, on our own ball, we will look to turn the scrum legally to erase the Sarries back row from helping out in defence before starting our own attacks. We will look to control possession and be patient, recycling the ball through several phases with Thomas and Preistland controlling our play.
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Newcastle 26 - 22 Worcester
Newcastle have that little bit more in all areas here. Worcester have improved out of sight and are much closer than they have been in recent seasons. falcons have class and some great quality. not a fan of cruden defensively and he goes to pieces in rain.
worcester have great form players but falcons league champs for a reason
Leicester 24 - 24 Northampton
tigers half backs great for control. saints will murder the lineout( not often we say that) and slightly edge outside backs. at home saints win. miller massively out of depth and lacking form. cant split
London Welsh 24 - 26 Bath
bath very strong and great battle of wings. see bath back 5 controlling game and doing enough for win
Sale 19 - 21 london Irish
difference here is pienaar and conditions. stevens fine against out of form ayerza. battle of tactics and pienaar a much more astute tactician than sexton who has been struggling with goal kicking. pienaar from the tee wins this. prefer sale centres but see sales lack of back 3 in these conditions as a factor.also
Saracens 18 - 18 Wasps
cant split. lineout to wasps but not enough attacking fizz to get them over the line. rennie vs gill a battle royal
Newcastle have that little bit more in all areas here. Worcester have improved out of sight and are much closer than they have been in recent seasons. falcons have class and some great quality. not a fan of cruden defensively and he goes to pieces in rain.
worcester have great form players but falcons league champs for a reason
Leicester 24 - 24 Northampton
tigers half backs great for control. saints will murder the lineout( not often we say that) and slightly edge outside backs. at home saints win. miller massively out of depth and lacking form. cant split
London Welsh 24 - 26 Bath
bath very strong and great battle of wings. see bath back 5 controlling game and doing enough for win
Sale 19 - 21 london Irish
difference here is pienaar and conditions. stevens fine against out of form ayerza. battle of tactics and pienaar a much more astute tactician than sexton who has been struggling with goal kicking. pienaar from the tee wins this. prefer sale centres but see sales lack of back 3 in these conditions as a factor.also
Saracens 18 - 18 Wasps
cant split. lineout to wasps but not enough attacking fizz to get them over the line. rennie vs gill a battle royal
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Newcastle Falcons 25 - 16 Worcester Warriors
Harlequins 20 - 22 Gloucester Rugby
Leicester Tigers 21 - 25 Northampton Saints
London Welsh 23 - 26 Bath Rugby
Sale Sharks 20 - 20 London Irish
Harlequins 20 - 22 Gloucester Rugby
Leicester Tigers 21 - 25 Northampton Saints
London Welsh 23 - 26 Bath Rugby
Sale Sharks 20 - 20 London Irish
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Give me 10 minutes lads. Just got home, done em all this morning except for Wasps v Sarries
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Newcastle 29-23 Warriors
Falcons have a real quality side. Tight front row battle, not sure who gets the edge. Newcastle for me definitely have the better second row and however good Warriors back row is, with the returning SH players Newcastle look exceptional. Quality all over the backs from both sides but prefer the Falcons backs overall.
Harlequins 27-25 Gloucester
Edge to me just about goes to Quins in the front five but its so close. Think they also edge the back row. Half backs go to Gloucester with a great pair. Centres are once again really close, edge to Glaws and back three goes to Gloucester too. Home advantage for Quins nicks it for me.
Tigers 29-24 Saints
Slight edge to the Tigers front row while I prefer the Saints second row. not much overall in the forwards. Tigers have the better halfbacks and while the centres are both quality, I feel Saints are perhaps a bit one dimensional. Not much in back threes
Sale 24-20 Irish
It is close but I just about prefer Sale in all the forwards departments. Irish slightly edge the halfbacks and the back three whilst the centres go to Sale. At home Sale definitely have enough to win.
Saracens 25-22 Wasps
Front fives are so close that I'd call it even. Back row and the half backstgo to Sarries. Nonu will be a major factor here giving the overall edge.
Falcons have a real quality side. Tight front row battle, not sure who gets the edge. Newcastle for me definitely have the better second row and however good Warriors back row is, with the returning SH players Newcastle look exceptional. Quality all over the backs from both sides but prefer the Falcons backs overall.
Harlequins 27-25 Gloucester
Edge to me just about goes to Quins in the front five but its so close. Think they also edge the back row. Half backs go to Gloucester with a great pair. Centres are once again really close, edge to Glaws and back three goes to Gloucester too. Home advantage for Quins nicks it for me.
Tigers 29-24 Saints
Slight edge to the Tigers front row while I prefer the Saints second row. not much overall in the forwards. Tigers have the better halfbacks and while the centres are both quality, I feel Saints are perhaps a bit one dimensional. Not much in back threes
Sale 24-20 Irish
It is close but I just about prefer Sale in all the forwards departments. Irish slightly edge the halfbacks and the back three whilst the centres go to Sale. At home Sale definitely have enough to win.
Saracens 25-22 Wasps
Front fives are so close that I'd call it even. Back row and the half backstgo to Sarries. Nonu will be a major factor here giving the overall edge.
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
As Chris had his predos refused for being late does
The
Same happen for CJB.
Purely selfishness and I have no idea re scoring system but know i would be better off without the CJB loss.
Close game Steve who has won?
The
Same happen for CJB.
Purely selfishness and I have no idea re scoring system but know i would be better off without the CJB loss.
Close game Steve who has won?
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I think I might have sneaked it before CJB's predos matt as I have got 6 winning predos and you have 3 (albeit your predos are by more points, I think I get 6 match points added on after the averages whereas you will only get 3, so think that will just about see me through)
But I do agree they shouldn't be counted. It has to be blanket every week. If numerous people request a extended period then so be it but once the deadline has been set it should be stuck to.
But I do agree they shouldn't be counted. It has to be blanket every week. If numerous people request a extended period then so be it but once the deadline has been set it should be stuck to.
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Clutching at straw Steve lol.
Everybody so close. Home advantage everything
Everybody so close. Home advantage everything
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Away wins a rarity. There are potentially 6 sides in this league who could go the full season without losing at home.
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Had em all done except the last one before 8, just didn't post.
Sorry Matt and anyone who it affected, don't mind what happens to them.
Sorry Matt and anyone who it affected, don't mind what happens to them.
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No worries CJB as
I said purely selfish motives lol
I said purely selfish motives lol
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Same as late tactics...?
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Been stung with late tactics two weeks in a row, would be a tad annoying if my result was affected by late predos not being accepted....
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Late tactics have always been accepted, on the proviso that if people have already predicted your game without them then those predictions stand.
I extended the predo time to 8 from 12 a couple of weeks back to ensure that people have more time to get them in. Late ones have never been accepted and they will not count on this occasion.
I extended the predo time to 8 from 12 a couple of weeks back to ensure that people have more time to get them in. Late ones have never been accepted and they will not count on this occasion.
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RESULTS
Newcastle Falcons 29 (T:Goode, Robshaw, Maestri C: Cruden P: Cruden 4)
Worcester Warriors 18 (P: Barkley 6)
Harlequins 25 (T: Easter, Botha L.Dickson C: Burns 2 P: Burns 2)
Gloucester 24 (T: Sharples, May, Robson C: Carter 3 P: Carter)
Leicester Tigers 24 (T: O'Brien, Yachvili, Mermoz C: Wilkinson 3 P: Wilkinson)
Northampton Saints 23 (T: Tuilagi, Savea C: Halfpenny 2 P: Halfpenny 3)
London Welsh 22 (T: Timani, Vermeulen P: Farrell 4)
Bath Rugby 26 (T: Pocock, Rougerie, Miller C: Hodgson P: Hodgson 3)
Sale Sharks 26 (T: Freuan, Care, Thomson C: Sexton P: Sexton 3)
London Irish 21 (T: Garvey, Daniel C: Pienaar P: Pienaar 3)
Saracens 21 (T: Visser, Nonu C: Doussain P: Doussain 3)
London Wasps 19 (T: Barritt C: Priestland P: Priestland 4)
Newcastle Falcons 29 (T:Goode, Robshaw, Maestri C: Cruden P: Cruden 4)
Worcester Warriors 18 (P: Barkley 6)
Harlequins 25 (T: Easter, Botha L.Dickson C: Burns 2 P: Burns 2)
Gloucester 24 (T: Sharples, May, Robson C: Carter 3 P: Carter)
Leicester Tigers 24 (T: O'Brien, Yachvili, Mermoz C: Wilkinson 3 P: Wilkinson)
Northampton Saints 23 (T: Tuilagi, Savea C: Halfpenny 2 P: Halfpenny 3)
London Welsh 22 (T: Timani, Vermeulen P: Farrell 4)
Bath Rugby 26 (T: Pocock, Rougerie, Miller C: Hodgson P: Hodgson 3)
Sale Sharks 26 (T: Freuan, Care, Thomson C: Sexton P: Sexton 3)
London Irish 21 (T: Garvey, Daniel C: Pienaar P: Pienaar 3)
Saracens 21 (T: Visser, Nonu C: Doussain P: Doussain 3)
London Wasps 19 (T: Barritt C: Priestland P: Priestland 4)
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Not easy to get a bonus point these days, that one low score totally changes the result.
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
LBP's much easier to come by than TBP's which is a good thing in terms of keeping the league competitive I think.
Hopefully the fact that there are four of us very close at the bottom and nobody cut adrift will keep it more interesting for people at that end, and likewise at the top where any of the top 8 could make the play offs.
Hopefully the fact that there are four of us very close at the bottom and nobody cut adrift will keep it more interesting for people at that end, and likewise at the top where any of the top 8 could make the play offs.
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
My SH players returning didn't make as much of a difference as I expected, looking like it's going to be another season fighting at the bottom end of the table
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
The two AP games during the AI's will have a big impact I think. Going to be interesting.
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Close game Arry , had it been at your place would of been a different kettle of fish i expect.
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
It was Driver, congrats mate, very nice back row you've got there
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Unlucky Chris, thought you had me at one stage.
My last two games been seperated by 1 point. Such a good league this year.
My last two games been seperated by 1 point. Such a good league this year.
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
You would say that you're top!!! Lol
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
I dislike you a lot at the moment pooly, your sh players arent welcome at worcester for the return match
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Haha....sorry mate. Bloody good to get them back though
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Re: Fantasy Aviva Premiership Round Eight
Would have been nice to have steyn and higginbotham back but both got banned!!
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