slave contracts

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Haye made a lot of noise about the klitschkos offering slave contracts. However when haye fought harrisson im sure (correct me if im wrong) haye made 5 million and harrisson made 1. that means there was a pot of 6 million in total which means harrisson got just over 15 %.

If that is correct does that mean haye offers slave contracts?

(hayes contract had a rematch clause in it to in case he lost to harrisson)

victorgarco wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:Haye, Chisora, Solis, Wach, Charr and Povetkin...That is 6 boxers who have complained.

Think Victor is one of the Klitschko fanboys.

In 2010 Haye said he would show everyone he Klitschko contract offered to him, he never did. Chisora complained that he was not offered enough money, hardly a slave contract when chisora was coming off 2 losses in a 15 fight career.

Can't find a link where solis complained so please show me one.

But all of those boxers have never shown anyone a contract so it smells like crap especially haye

Good grief. Contracts are normally confidential and not permitted to be shown. Have you ever wondered why very few contracts of any description for any business deal are hardly shown in the public domain?

Show me a contract K2 have signed if you are so adamant they are not slave contracts or remain like an infant son of an amoeba.

azania wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:Haye, Chisora, Solis, Wach, Charr and Povetkin...That is 6 boxers who have complained.

Think Victor is one of the Klitschko fanboys.

In 2010 Haye said he would show everyone he Klitschko contract offered to him, he never did. Chisora complained that he was not offered enough money, hardly a slave contract when chisora was coming off 2 losses in a 15 fight career.

Can't find a link where solis complained so please show me one.

But all of those boxers have never shown anyone a contract so it smells like crap especially haye

Good grief. Contracts are normally confidential and not permitted to be shown. Have you ever wondered why very few contracts of any description for any business deal are hardly shown in the public domain?

Show me a contract K2 have signed if you are so adamant they are not slave contracts or remain like an infant son of an amoeba.

that's a joke right? i can show anyone a contract of mine if I like especially a contract that I have not yet signed and have refused.

And you cannot read how many times have i said that if you have not seen a K2 contract you cannot say it is a slave contract. I am saying that you cannot judge something or argue that a contract has x terms in it if you have never seen it. (and your insults are very geeky)

Victor why did Bernt Boente get cold feet when Adam Booth challenged him to hold public negotiations?

The genius of PBF wrote:Victor why did Bernt Boente get cold feet when Adam Booth challenged him to hold public negotiations?

Booth said he is open to sitting down with Boente on December 12th, “after Wladimir has bashed up Derek Chisora,” and Booth also challenged Boente to agree to “transparent negotiations,” whereby the whole world would be able to see for themselves which side is preventing the fight from being made.

Boente made his side very clear, however. After reminding viewers first of all, that Haye DID sign a contract to face Wladimir last June (before being forced to withdraw with a back injury), Boente said there is absolutely no point at all in new negotiations being started unless it is agreed, right from the start, that all T.V money, all sponsorship money, all the live gate money, everything - is agreed to be split evenly, 50-50.

At the moment, according to Boente, Haye is refusing to agree to he and whichever Klitschko it is he fights getting half each of the U.K T.V money. And Boente says that unless Haye and his team agree to share everything, there will never be a fight.

“As I said before, there is no doubt, we don’t even have to start negotiations unless they [Team Haye] agree beforehand that we get 50-percent of the English T.V money,” Boente said on Sky. “If we agree, it’s a very simple and easy deal - 50-50 all over the world, everything goes into one pot. If that is not the case we will not even start negotiations, and [we will] move onto the next fight - either with Adamek, Valuev, whoever.

“That fight [Haye Vs. either Klitschko] , I can tell you now, will never happen unless we get a straight 50-percent.”

Jesus Christ Victorcargo & Azania have you seriously got nothing better to do?!!

Everytime I come on here another page has been added to this thread, consisting of nothing more than you two going back and forth with

"Can you show me a contract to prove they do?"
"You show me a contract that proves they don't!"
"So you haven't seen a contract?"
"Show me a contract that proves..."
Repeat ad nauseum.

Neither of you has access to a contract that can prove definitely either way how slavish or unslavish K2 contracts are so neither of you can technically defeat the other in this arguements yet neither of you seems prepared to acknowledge the sheer futility and ridiculousness of it and be the first to walk away. Talk about two irrational stubborn b*stards!

Doesn't say anything to do with contract options rematch clauses etc...Which is why Booth challenged Boente to public negotiations.

In the Video it was clear Boente got coldfeet...Boente in the brawl video tells the world media that Haye is out of the running to fight Vitali and has to beat Chisora to get a shot at Vitali.

Haye knocks out Chisora...Boente goes back on his word and Vitali ducks Haye and fights Charr.

The genius of PBF wrote:Doesn't say anything to do with contract options rematch clauses etc...Which is why Booth challenged Boente to public negotiations.

In the Video it was clear Boente got coldfeet...Boente in the brawl video tells the world media that Haye is out of the running to fight Vitali and has to beat Chisora to get a shot at Vitali.

Haye knocks out Chisora...Boente goes back on his word and Vitali ducks Haye and fights Charr.

you're changing the debate to who ducked who. Haye fought Wlad and lost get over it.

Nope Im showing you a example of K2 promotions lying and going back on their word.

Since when did Wlad's win over Haye count for Vitali?...Does Matthew Hatton have a win over Kosta Tsyzu?

Vitali ducked Haye get over it.

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Jesus Christ Victorcargo & Azania have you seriously got nothing better to do?!!

Everytime I come on here another page has been added to this thread, consisting of nothing more than you two going back and forth with

"Can you show me a contract to prove they do?"
"You show me a contract that proves they don't!"
"So you haven't seen a contract?"
"Show me a contract that proves..."
Repeat ad nauseum.

Neither of you has access to a contract that can prove definitely either way how slavish or unslavish K2 contracts are so neither of you can technically defeat the other in this arguements yet neither of you seems prepared to acknowledge the sheer futility and ridiculousness of it and be the first to walk away. Talk about two irrational stubborn b*stards!

I'm simply giving an opinion. This amoeba wants me to show a contract before I can give an opinion. It's lost on him that he is also giving an opinion but has a loose interpretation on burden of proof.

victorgarco wrote:

azania wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:Haye, Chisora, Solis, Wach, Charr and Povetkin...That is 6 boxers who have complained.

Think Victor is one of the Klitschko fanboys.

In 2010 Haye said he would show everyone he Klitschko contract offered to him, he never did. Chisora complained that he was not offered enough money, hardly a slave contract when chisora was coming off 2 losses in a 15 fight career.

Can't find a link where solis complained so please show me one.

But all of those boxers have never shown anyone a contract so it smells like crap especially haye

Good grief. Contracts are normally confidential and not permitted to be shown. Have you ever wondered why very few contracts of any description for any business deal are hardly shown in the public domain?

Show me a contract K2 have signed if you are so adamant they are not slave contracts or remain like an infant son of an amoeba.

that's a joke right? i can show anyone a contract of mine if I like especially a contract that I have not yet signed and have refused.

And you cannot read how many times have i said that if you have not seen a K2 contract you cannot say it is a slave contract. I am saying that you cannot judge something or argue that a contract has x terms in it if you have never seen it. (and your insults are very geeky)

No its not a flippin joke. Multi million dollar contracts are usually kept away from the public domain. Your £5 contracts mean jack.

And how many times do I have to explain to you that having an opinion based on what many others have said negates me from producing a contract of K2. Are you really that ignorant? I am not insulting you. Just stating a simple fact.

K2 offer slave contracts. That is my opinion. Just because K2 pay you to wipe their rear end doesn't mean you know the terms of their contract.

victorgarco wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:Doesn't say anything to do with contract options rematch clauses etc...Which is why Booth challenged Boente to public negotiations.

In the Video it was clear Boente got coldfeet...Boente in the brawl video tells the world media that Haye is out of the running to fight Vitali and has to beat Chisora to get a shot at Vitali.

Haye knocks out Chisora...Boente goes back on his word and Vitali ducks Haye and fights Charr.

you're changing the debate to who ducked who. Haye fought Wlad and lost get over it.

Deary me. He is not changing the debate. Are you for real?

azania wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

azania wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:Haye, Chisora, Solis, Wach, Charr and Povetkin...That is 6 boxers who have complained.

Think Victor is one of the Klitschko fanboys.

In 2010 Haye said he would show everyone he Klitschko contract offered to him, he never did. Chisora complained that he was not offered enough money, hardly a slave contract when chisora was coming off 2 losses in a 15 fight career.

Can't find a link where solis complained so please show me one.

But all of those boxers have never shown anyone a contract so it smells like crap especially haye

Good grief. Contracts are normally confidential and not permitted to be shown. Have you ever wondered why very few contracts of any description for any business deal are hardly shown in the public domain?

Show me a contract K2 have signed if you are so adamant they are not slave contracts or remain like an infant son of an amoeba.

that's a joke right? i can show anyone a contract of mine if I like especially a contract that I have not yet signed and have refused.

And you cannot read how many times have i said that if you have not seen a K2 contract you cannot say it is a slave contract. I am saying that you cannot judge something or argue that a contract has x terms in it if you have never seen it. (and your insults are very geeky)

No its not a flippin joke. Multi million dollar contracts are usually kept away from the public domain. Your £5 contracts mean jack.

And how many times do I have to explain to you that having an opinion based on what many others have said negates me from producing a contract of K2. Are you really that ignorant? I am not insulting you. Just stating a simple fact.

K2 offer slave contracts. That is my opinion. Just because K2 pay you to wipe their rear end doesn't mean you know the terms of their contract.

Vicky, I'll give you an example. I am of the opinion that Pac is juicing. He has never failed a test. Nor have I seen him take a test or seen the results as published by the testers. But I hold the opinion that he is on something.

Now I dont have to be in the testing room to and watch him take a leak into a bottle to know he has taken tests and passed them. But it is still my opinion that he is on something based on the many reports that have been written and said about him.

azania wrote:Vicky, I'll give you an example. I am of the opinion that Pac is juicing. He has never failed a test. Nor have I seen him take a test or seen the results as published by the testers. But I hold the opinion that he is on something.

Now I dont have to be in the testing room to and watch him take a leak into a bottle to know he has taken tests and passed them. But it is still my opinion that he is on something based on the many reports that have been written and said about him.

lol what a crap insult calling me vicky lol about as crap as when mayweather called hatton vicky fatton hahahah

This one must be due for a lock.....

azania wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

azania wrote:

victorgarco wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:Haye, Chisora, Solis, Wach, Charr and Povetkin...That is 6 boxers who have complained.

Think Victor is one of the Klitschko fanboys.

In 2010 Haye said he would show everyone he Klitschko contract offered to him, he never did. Chisora complained that he was not offered enough money, hardly a slave contract when chisora was coming off 2 losses in a 15 fight career.

Can't find a link where solis complained so please show me one.

But all of those boxers have never shown anyone a contract so it smells like crap especially haye

Good grief. Contracts are normally confidential and not permitted to be shown. Have you ever wondered why very few contracts of any description for any business deal are hardly shown in the public domain?

Show me a contract K2 have signed if you are so adamant they are not slave contracts or remain like an infant son of an amoeba.

that's a joke right? i can show anyone a contract of mine if I like especially a contract that I have not yet signed and have refused.

And you cannot read how many times have i said that if you have not seen a K2 contract you cannot say it is a slave contract. I am saying that you cannot judge something or argue that a contract has x terms in it if you have never seen it. (and your insults are very geeky)

No its not a flippin joke. Multi million dollar contracts are usually kept away from the public domain. Your £5 contracts mean jack.

And how many times do I have to explain to you that having an opinion based on what many others have said negates me from producing a contract of K2. Are you really that ignorant? I am not insulting you. Just stating a simple fact.

K2 offer slave contracts. That is my opinion. Just because K2 pay you to wipe their rear end doesn't mean you know the terms of their contract.

A contract is a contract whether it's 5 pounds or 5 million. And the fact these people are not even bound by the contract because they have not even agreed to it yet proves that they could show it if they wanted to. Not my fault you have no clue about contract law. Seems like you like to make things up first you make up things about K2 contracts and 2nd you are making up uk law hahaha.

still waiting for that solis link

Boxtthis wrote:This one must be due for a lock.....

Quite right, Boxtthis. I'm locking this, lads. It's going nowhere, as a couple of others have already pointed out, and the personal jibes are slowly working their way in.