David Price: Real Deal or Average Hype Job?

David Prices career has so far been a slow, but a successful one. In just under four years, he has had just 14 fights, stopping 12 inside the distance. His last four fights have been against decent opposition, Dallas, Harrison, Sexton and McDermott are all good domestic fighters yet he has made everyone look like a novice.

Looking back on all these fights the beginning of the end starts in the same way, a quick jab followed by the huge straight hand that so far nobody has been able to stand up to. Tom Dallas appears to be the worst effected by his knockout to Price as he suffered another two stoppage defeats in his next two fights.

But what happens when you take that shot away from the big man away from Liverpool? As far as I can see from Prices young career he possesses every shot in the book, and has the ability to throw every shot with power and venom, however he has not been tested over the 12 round distance yet.

A certain section of fans still Price has a dodgy chin after he was stopped in the amateurs, and this myth is still to be put to bed, however that says more about Price than anything else. You can only fight what is in front of you and to not have taken a clean shot yet is testament to how good this mans jab and footwork really is, however I have seen fans say he has a glass chin, and a strong wind would be able to pit him down, however over exagerated these claims are I urge anyone who thinks one clean punch would put Price down to rewatch the McDermott fight and to note that in the blink of an eye he actually takes a punch to give his own.

Price has had his career guided pretty well so far by Franny Smith and Frank Maloney and while he could have been moved on quickly sometimes slow progress can not be helped. Smith only became a professional trainer when Price became a professional himself and he has used every ounce of his amateur knowledge to guide Price and keep his feet firmly on the ground, and in Maloney he has the man who guided Lennox Lewis to the very top of the tree, the mans knowledge is not to be ignored.

One really interesting chapter in this story so far has been his rivalry with Manchester's Tyson Fury, a grudge which goes back to their amateur days. The fighters where due to meet before Fury chose to vacate his British and Commonwealth titles hours before purse bids where due to take place, and recently he launched a foul mouth tirade against Price live on Channel 5. Fans are split on which was this would go, however I actually think that Price has got inside Furys head. He has never said a bad word about the Manchester man yet Fury has constantly belittled the British champion, something I view as a sign of weakness.


It's hard to say how far Price can go, I actually think Skelton will be a tough test, while he is definitely past it he has a habit of testing most fighters chins, a question which if Price can answer positively he will silent a few of his doubters. However if fails to come through this test, it could spell the end of a young mans career.

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Half decent in a poor era.

....A lamb to the slaughter in any other.

I think he's a handful in any era......Frazier, Ali, Tyson, Lewis, Holy, Foreman, Bowe, Holy apart....

Love to know who has an easy time with him!!

Once the Klits go I think he'll be top dog!! he's aesthetic, powerful and just what boxing needs!

TheMackemMawler wrote:Half decent in a poor era.

....A lamb to the slaughter in any other.

He's so far handled everyone as well as any of the greats starting out would have, possibly in even better fashion, so I don't see how you've come to that assessment.

We'll see........

Hard to say how he would have been in any other era MM, as Truss said he could have been an handful for anybody skill wise but his chin could of let him down, it still could let him down.

Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

Ali was decked off 190 pound cooper....

His chin could have let him down in any era also!!!

Quite true Truss. Hopefully we'll able to look back in 10 years and realise how good this guy was.

AlexHuckerby wrote:Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

we'll see....or not in this case.

we'll see...or not in his case???

wtf...

I'm sure we'll see one way or the other...Mate!!!!!!!!!

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

we'll see....or not in this case.

Err, ok, good debate..

Mackem makes sense until the sixth round!!

It'd be the sixth round of Budweiser's by the sound of things

I'll explain,

We'll see... if he makes it

We'll not see..... if he would fair any better [than the greats] against the opposition he has faced.

Simple really

AlexHuckerby wrote:Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

I just think it ridiculous to say he would be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far, against nobodies

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

I just think it ridiculous to say he would be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far, against nobodies

Who is saying he will? What I was basically saying is, give him a fair chance at the very least, he's so far in his career looked the part however.

AlexHuckerby wrote:

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

I just think it ridiculous to say he would be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far, against nobodies

Who is saying he will? What I was basically saying is, give him a fair chance at the very least, he's so far in his career looked the part however.

I'm not not giving him a chance. I give him a very good chance of becoming the preeminent heavyweight of this underwhelming era.

And time will tell if he can be compared to the greats of by gone. I reserve the right not to be blown away until he's faced someone with a pulse. However, the fact remains, he remains to be tested. I'm a David Price fan. I'm also a realist.

However, I stand by my statement, he would be a lamb to the slaughter in any other era...

It's all well and good saying Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Frasier, Bowe and Lewis would beat him, but put those greats aside and guys like Ibeabuchi, Sam Peter, Tua, Shavers, Rahman, Shannon Briggs, Valuev, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer and Tony Tucker all have more than a good chance of beating Price. Whether Price improves to the extent that he would enter these fights as favourite remains to be seen....

I think that is a fairly balanced view in light of his career credentials so far.

What Price needs is Chisora no more no less.

Rahman beat Lewis and so did Mccall... .....Mercer beat him in my eyes too!!

so your point sucks...

Anything can happen at heavy....but more likely is Price's.... height, weight, jab and power beats the guys you mention!!

Who's denying Price's height, weight and power? I'm certainly not. However, as of yet, we haven't seen whether or not he can utilise them to full effect against a live opponent.

Also,

My point that Price may well struggle in another era sucks because Lewis got beat by "three guys"?

......erm, ok

And without an apology, after all the swearing you threw at me yesterday, my challenge still stands...

Your point sucks...because you might as well say that about any heavyweight..dumbass.

I hate being forced to read Trusswums posts unless I'm logged in.

Add him to the foe list Mackem, I promise you that its much easier than reading utter garbage and banging your head against a wall.

Too early to make any meaningful judgement on Price at this stage. He's promising, but that's about as much as you can say. There's really no merit in arguing his position against HWs of bygone eras (either positively or negatively) until he has a few fights well above the level he's fought at so far.

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

I just think it ridiculous to say he would be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far, against nobodies

Who is saying he will? What I was basically saying is, give him a fair chance at the very least, he's so far in his career looked the part however.

I'm not not giving him a chance. I give him a very good chance of becoming the preeminent heavyweight of this underwhelming era.

And time will tell if he can be compared to the greats of by gone. I reserve the right not to be blown away until he's faced someone with a pulse. However, the fact remains, he remains to be tested. I'm a David Price fan. I'm also a realist.

However, I stand by my statement, he would be a lamb to the slaughter in any other era...

It's all well and good saying Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Frasier, Bowe and Lewis would beat him, but put those greats aside and guys like Ibeabuchi, Sam Peter, Tua, Shavers, Rahman, Shannon Briggs, Valuev, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer and Tony Tucker all have more than a good chance of beating Price. Whether Price improves to the extent that he would enter these fights as favourite remains to be seen....

I think that is a fairly balanced view in light of his career credentials so far.

What Price needs is Chisora no more no less.

Well, personally I disagree, I think he has the potential to become a great boxer, but this doesn't mean I'm predicting him to become one.

It's impossible to say whether he would be able to stand in with the greats at this moment in time, so I think it's pointless saying he will or he won't.

Jab, where is is the foe button?

The plant pot has never posted a single word where I've sat up and thought that's interesting. He offers, the sum of nothing. He's the archetypical dumb yank.

I don't want to be exposed to his nonsensical argument and irrational debate any longer than I have to. When reading his words the violence growing in my body pollutes my blood with all kind of chemicals. I shouldn't have to feel like that.

Show me how to Foe. Rid my world of this vile cretin.

Boxtthis wrote:Too early to make any meaningful judgement on Price at this stage. He's promising, but that's about as much as you can say. There's really no merit in arguing his position against HWs of bygone eras (either positively or negatively) until he has a few fights well above the level he's fought at so far.

Your probably right Boxtthis.

AlexHuckerby wrote:

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

I just think it ridiculous to say he would be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far, against nobodies

Who is saying he will? What I was basically saying is, give him a fair chance at the very least, he's so far in his career looked the part however.

I'm not not giving him a chance. I give him a very good chance of becoming the preeminent heavyweight of this underwhelming era.

And time will tell if he can be compared to the greats of by gone. I reserve the right not to be blown away until he's faced someone with a pulse. However, the fact remains, he remains to be tested. I'm a David Price fan. I'm also a realist.

However, I stand by my statement, he would be a lamb to the slaughter in any other era...

It's all well and good saying Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Frasier, Bowe and Lewis would beat him, but put those greats aside and guys like Ibeabuchi, Sam Peter, Tua, Shavers, Rahman, Shannon Briggs, Valuev, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer and Tony Tucker all have more than a good chance of beating Price. Whether Price improves to the extent that he would enter these fights as favourite remains to be seen....

I think that is a fairly balanced view in light of his career credentials so far.

What Price needs is Chisora no more no less.

Well, personally I disagree, I think he has the potential to become a great boxer, but this doesn't mean I'm predicting him to become one.

It's impossible to say whether he would be able to stand in with the greats at this moment in time, so I think it's pointless saying he will or he won't.

It's not impossible to say this....

It's all well and good saying Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Frasier, Bowe and Lewis would beat him, but put those greats aside and guys like Ibeabuchi, Sam Peter, Tua, Shavers, Rahman, Shannon Briggs, Valuev, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer and Tony Tucker all have more than a good chance of beating Price (infact they would be overwhelming favourites). Whether Price improves to the extent that he would enter these fights as the favourite remains to be seen...

At the moment, he's a lamb to the slaughter, whether this changes, we will see.....

Are we just going round in circles?

I get the feeling we are...

I understand the gist of what you are saying though...

Price has potential which he may or may not fulfill.

It's inaccurate to speculate... so don't.

In total, your not saying a whole lot.

Depends what the OP means by "The Real Deal". If it means that Price is a likely future heavyweight champion of the world, that would clearly be premature. If, on the other hand, we can take it to indicate that he is of potentially world class, then that seems entirely possible.

"Average hype job"? Well, he's already proved himself to be a little better than that, I would say. He may not prove to be an all-time great, but he has certainly fulfilled more of his promise than someone like Harrison, for example, who could realistically be described as a hype merchant of the highest order.

The problem that I have with the thread is that it presupposes that Price must be either an Alpha Plus fighter or somewhere around a D-. Life, and boxing tends to mirror it, is rarely that clear-cut. I'd like to see less black and white, more shades of grey. Most boxers, and people, are seldom as marvellous or as abysmal as their champions or foes claim.

The best bet is that Price will fall somewhere between the two categories highlighted by this thread. Waiting and seeing is surely the only sensible course here.

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:

TheMackemMawler wrote:

AlexHuckerby wrote:Oh yes we will, I just hink it idiculous to say he wouldn't be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far.

I just think it ridiculous to say he would be able to stand on his own two feet against top quality HW's without seeing how his career has panned out, especially given the start he has made and how dominant he has been thus far, against nobodies

Who is saying he will? What I was basically saying is, give him a fair chance at the very least, he's so far in his career looked the part however.

I'm not not giving him a chance. I give him a very good chance of becoming the preeminent heavyweight of this underwhelming era.

And time will tell if he can be compared to the greats of by gone. I reserve the right not to be blown away until he's faced someone with a pulse. However, the fact remains, he remains to be tested. I'm a David Price fan. I'm also a realist.

However, I stand by my statement, he would be a lamb to the slaughter in any other era...

It's all well and good saying Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Frasier, Bowe and Lewis would beat him, but put those greats aside and guys like Ibeabuchi, Sam Peter, Tua, Shavers, Rahman, Shannon Briggs, Valuev, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer and Tony Tucker all have more than a good chance of beating Price. Whether Price improves to the extent that he would enter these fights as favourite remains to be seen....

I think that is a fairly balanced view in light of his career credentials so far.

What Price needs is Chisora no more no less.

Well, personally I disagree, I think he has the potential to become a great boxer, but this doesn't mean I'm predicting him to become one.

It's impossible to say whether he would be able to stand in with the greats at this moment in time, so I think it's pointless saying he will or he won't.

It's not impossible to say this....

It's all well and good saying Ali, Foreman, Tyson, Frasier, Bowe and Lewis would beat him, but put those greats aside and guys like Ibeabuchi, Sam Peter, Tua, Shavers, Rahman, Shannon Briggs, Valuev, Tommy Morrison, Ray Mercer and Tony Tucker all have more than a good chance of beating Price (infact they would be overwhelming favourites). Whether Price improves to the extent that he would enter these fights as the favourite remains to be seen...

At the moment, he's a lamb to the slaughter, whether this changes, we will see.....

Are we just going round in circles?

I get the feeling we are...

There careers are finished, Price's career is just starting, so comparing Price to these guys at this stage is pretty pointless as we have no clue as to how good he will get. Of course right now the majority of those names would probably beat him, what I'm saying is he has shown the potential to get to that level with what he has shown us thus far. In my opinion he has dealt with everyone that has been put in front with him just as well as the likes of an upcoming Lewis etc. would have done. Prime for prime against the guys you have mentioned is pointless, because we are yet to see Price's prime.

Price has a great jab, terrific power and looks dedicated to the sport. Obviously untested but he has got rid of the stiffs fed to him in great style. Got rid of them in the manner a talented boxer with ambition should. You don't get paid for overtime as Honeyghan used to say.

But he is untested in the chin department and has not been in with an ambitious fighter. The jury's out. But so far so good.

Yes I agree, its kind of unfair to compare a novice to the veterans of the past.

I gave those names only to explain my initial proposition that Price would be a lamb to the slaughter in any other era at this present moment, and he would. I think I have some right to say that, especially, when you consider some people say Price is close to competing with K2 (?). I mean if he can be compared, at present, to the best of this era, then why not the best or even the also rans of other eras?

I have no clue about the early careers of the names I gave earlier so I can't say how they would do against the likes of Dermot or Sexton. It must be said, however, they would be hard pressed to better Price's performances.

To improve you need to be share the ring with those who provide a test, that's when you learn.

Maybe it's testament to Price's ability that no one can provide a test thus far.

Perhaps the lack of quality in the heavyweight division is stopping fighters developing, the lack of stiff opposition inhibits their ability to fulfill their potential.

If I fought at a sub standard level I may look good at that level buts it's hard to develop and rise beyond that level without stern opposition.

I don't see Price improving much over the rest of his career (i may be wrong). All that is left is for him to be tested.

I will concede I should reserve judgement until then.

We will see...

Personally I think there's fair amount of improvement that will happen for Price, slight parts will be technical, understanding how to move genuinely good opponents around the ring, how to maintain the distance against extremely aggressive fighters which may come in the shape of Seth Mitchell, Chisora etc. Extra parts of his defense will eventually be strengthed due to him facing fighter that are able to get to him.

I am personally not one of those people that are comparig him to K2 at this moment in time, mainly due to the fact he hasn't stepped up from domestic level yet and had a real test in front of him, I think it's very hard to judge with the fashion he has taken apart his opponents how he would fair, for me it's truly up in the air.

I can't really commit myself to say where he'll end up at the moment, only thing I see is that it should be exciting

AlexHuckerby wrote:

I can't really commit myself to say where he'll end up at the moment, only thing I see is that it should be exciting

I'll drink to that

http://v2journal.com/david-price-real-deal-or-over-hyped.html

Great article

azania wrote:Price has a great jab, terrific power and looks dedicated to the sport. Obviously untested but he has got rid of the stiffs fed to him in great style. Got rid of them in the manner a talented boxer with ambition should. You don't get paid for overtime as Honeyghan used to say.

But he is untested in the chin department and has not been in with an ambitious fighter. The jury's out. But so far so good.

Did someone halfway sensible hack your account, Az. That's the most balanced post I've ever seen from you. A real "dear diary" moment for me.

I have never written anything bad about his skills.

It's the acknowledgment that his chin is untested rather than your previous assertions that he'd fall over if someone threw a punch three towns away from where Price was fighting.

I must have been drunk when I wrote that

Price ain't fought nobody. Needs to pursue Euro level. Knocking out Audley don't mean jack.

Price fans disgraced themselves at Harrison fight.

Deontay Wilder is the real deal...Wladimir said he was one of the best sparring partners he ever had.

Wilder is also suprised Haye in their sparring.

Problem is his opponents are so utterly utterly useless - we cant really see for ourselves. We can see that hes quick and that hes got a bang but thats it. Khan was more or less holding his own in sparring with Manny but in a proper fight it would be a surprise if Khan lasted two rounds.

superflyweight wrote:

azania wrote:Price has a great jab, terrific power and looks dedicated to the sport. Obviously untested but he has got rid of the stiffs fed to him in great style. Got rid of them in the manner a talented boxer with ambition should. You don't get paid for overtime as Honeyghan used to say.

But he is untested in the chin department and has not been in with an ambitious fighter. The jury's out. But so far so good.

Did someone halfway sensible hack your account, Az. That's the most balanced post I've ever seen from you. A real "dear diary" moment for me.

I was thinking exactly the same! But no Az is actually...............(can't believe am saying this).........right.

superflyweight wrote:

azania wrote:Price has a great jab, terrific power and looks dedicated to the sport. Obviously untested but he has got rid of the stiffs fed to him in great style. Got rid of them in the manner a talented boxer with ambition should. You don't get paid for overtime as Honeyghan used to say.

But he is untested in the chin department and has not been in with an ambitious fighter. The jury's out. But so far so good.

Did someone halfway sensible hack your account, Az. That's the most balanced post I've ever seen from you. A real "dear diary" moment for me.

I just noticed this as well! Was fully expecting the comment to end with a ludicrously overblown statement about how terrible Price's chin is. I'm pleasantly surprised!