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Post by Ozzy3213 Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:12 am

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Teams to be named by midnight on Thursday 15th November 2012.

Predictions by 20:00 hours on Saturday 17th November 2012.



Harlequins vs. Bath Rugby

Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Will Collier09. Karl Dickson
02. Rob Buchanan10. Quade Cooper
03. Kieran Brookes
04. George Kruis11. Joe Rokocoko
05. Hugh Pyle12. Jan Serfontein
06. James Gaskell13. Jason Emery
07. Will Welch14. Chris Feauai-Sautia
08. Sam Jones15. Luke Morahan

16. Rob Hawkins 17. Tadgh Furlong 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Charlie Matthews 20. Jack Clifford 21. Ryan Glynn 22. Ihaia West 23. Olly Lindsey-Hague

Tactics

Really have a go at Bath. We have strong carriers and quick backs so will look to use the ball in hand and entertain the home crowd.

Bath Rugby
Manager – CJB
01. Jon Golding09. Chris Cook
02. Will Tanner10. Gareth Anscombe
03. Carl Rimmer
04. Louis Deacon11. Olly Woodburn
05. Tom Donnelly12. Luther Burrell
06. Will Skuse13. Case Laulua
07. David Seymour14. Tim Nanai Williams
08. Ben McCalman15. Isiah Toeava
16. Kane Palmer Newport 17. Chris Brooker 18. Oliver Tomaszczyk 19. Luke Romano 20. David Pocock 21. Richard Wigglesworth 22. Charlie Hodgson 23. Aurelien Rougerie




Sale Sharks vs. Saracens

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Manager – SJE

01. Vasil Kakovin 09. Ben Spencer
02. Darren Dawdiuk 10. James Hook
03. Luc Ducalcon
04. Romain Millo Chluski 11. Kyle Eastmond
05. Dave Attwood 12. Jordan Turner-Hall
06. Matt Kvesic 13. Robbie Freuen
07. Matt Todd 14. Keith Earls
08. Alex Tulou15. Jean-Marcellin Buttin


16. Jerome Schuster 17. Tommy Taylor 18. Neemia Tialata 19. Christian Day 20. Luke Whitelock 21. Nicholas Bezy 22. Tommy Bell 23. Will Addison

Tactics

We will look to control territory and apply pressure on Sarries in key areas looking to force mistakes. When in possession in the right areas of the pitch, we will look to play a strong carrying game, attacking in groups so as to win the collisions and get over the gain line. Keeping the ball alive is crucial so our carriers will be looking for support runners to hit on the offload and get us further over the gain line. Our back three will look to get involved as much as possible running support lines of the halfbacks and midfield looking for the inside ball or offload. We will kick all penalties in Sarries territory at goal and take the drop goal option whenever it’s available.

  • Spencer & Hook to lead the kicking game and ensure we dominate the territorial battle.
  • Massive but mobile front 5 on show and they will look to take Sarries on around the fringes.
  • With big carrying options in the front 5 and backs we have been able to go with two on form breakdown specialists in the back row. Look to take real advantage here.



Saracens
Manager – Driver

01.Matt Mullen 09.Will Chudley
02.Hika Elliot 10.Iain Humphreys (K)
03.Ben Tamifuna
04.Bryn Evans (c) 11.Harry Robinson
05.Tim Swinson 12.Chris Bell
06.Ross Rennie 13.Henry Trinder
07.Shane Jennings 14.Rory Lamount
08.Luke Narraway 15.Elliot Daley (k)

16.Scott Spurling 17.Efion Lewis Roberts 18.Phil Swainstone 19.Tom Jubb 20.Rocky Elsom 21.Paul Hodgson 22.Tom Catterick 23.Mark Cueto




Gloucester vs. London Welsh

Gloucester

01. Coonie ousthuizen 09. Dan Robson
02. Joe grey 10. Johan goosen (k)
03. Guillamon
04. Julien Pierre 11. Jsd
05. George robson 12.Steven donald
06. Alexander Lapandre 13. Rob Horne
07. Deon fourie 14. Zac Guildford
08. Arno Botha 15. Johnny may

16. Tim Payne 17. Rupert harden 18. Jamie george19. James Percival 20. Ardea savea 21. Tj perenara 22. Iain balshaw 23. Richard Kahui

Glos looking to play super quick fast handling game and to move welsh all over the park looking for weaknesses. play to our mobility and ball carrying with offloading.

We have serious gas and attacking intent and will look to use it from the off. We are playing with lots of broken field runners and line breakers.


Fantasy Anglo Welsh Cup Round Two - Page 2 50London Welsh
Manager – Ozzy3213

01. Alex Corbisiero09. Tomas O’Leary
02. Chris Whitehead10. Butch James
03. Adam Jones
04. Dean Schofield ©11. Bryan Habana
05. George Skvington12. Gavin Henson
06. Kevin McLaughlin13. Jonathan Davies
07. Siya Kolisi14. Matt Jess
08. Sione Kalamafoni15. Louis Ludik

16. Bismarck du Plessis 17. Brett Sturgess 18. Werner Kruger 19. James Hanks 20. Luke Wallace 21. Charlie Davies 22. Joel Tomkins 23. Ross Chisholm

Basic Game Plan

Basic tactical premise for us to control possession and be solid defensively. Focus will be on winning the gainline collisons in both attack and defence. In order to do this we have picked a very big pack to try to physically dominate this area of the game. We will look to apply pressure to Gloucester by keeping the ball for long periods and wearing them down defensively, and also by maintaining a solid defence and denying them opportunities to get on the score board. Pressure forces mistakes, and we will look to capitalise on any that Gloucester make.

Attacking specifics


  • Butch James to play what he sees, but in essence we want to control possession and go through the phases.
  • Big carriers to run hard and straight in midfield off early phase ball.
  • Support runners to ruck past the ball quickly if the carrier goes to ground in order to secure quick ball to go again.
  • Ball carrier to target Glocuester back row making them the tacklers, with support runners then hitting the ruck hard and early and burying them at the bottom of the ruck ensure that they cannot effect turnovers.


Defensive specifics

  • We will look to play a blitz defence with quick line speed to hit the ball carrier before he gets to the gainline and knock him back even further. O’Leary will sweep in behind.
  • We will not overcommit to the breakdown. If a turnover is on, we will go for it, otherwise we will legally slow the ball and maintain a solid defensive line to blitz from.
  • Maintain discipline and do not give away penalties.





Newcastle Falcons vs. Ospreys

Newcastle Falcons
Manager – Sgt Pooly

01. Alex Waller09. Luke Burgess
02. Lee Mears10. James O’Connor
03. Clement Ric
04. Brad Thorn11. Colin Slade
05. Paul O’Connell©12. Ben Williams
06. Ed Slater13. George Lowe
07. Heinrich Brussow14. Miles Benjamin
08. Jackson Wray15. Jared Payne

16. Rory Best 17. Scott Wilson 18. Luke Cowen-Dickie 19. Jonny Gray 20. Joel Conlon 21. Jimmy Cowan 22. Henry Slade 23. Francis Saili


Ospreys

01. Marc Thomas09. Rhys Webb
02. Matthew Dwyer10. Matthew Morgan
03. Joe Rees
04. Lloyd Peers11. Will Price
05. James King12. Jonathan Spratt
06. George Stowers13. Ben John
07. Sam Lewis (c)14. Tom Grabham
08. Morgan Allen15. Ross Jones

16. Scott Otten 17. Nicky Smith 18. Nicky Thomas 19. Rhodri Hughes 20. Arthur Ellis 21. Tom Habberfield 22. Sam Davies 23. Nathan Edwards




Leicester Tigers vs. London Irish

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Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Jonny Harris09. Dimitri Yachvili (k)
02. Sebastien Bruno10. Billy Twelvetrees
03. Brian Mujati
04. Simon Shaw11. Rene Ranger
05. Romain Taofifenua    12. Francois Venter
06. Edwin Maka13. Dominic Waldouck
07. James Scaysbrook14. Dom Shipperley
08. Ernst Joubert (c)15. Clement Poitrenaud
16. Andrew Sheridan 17. Jimmy Stevens 18. Ryan Bower 19. Pieter-Steph du Toit 20. Tom Croft 21. Micky Young 22. Brock James 23. Paul Jordaan

Tactics:

- Really target the scrum as often as we can.

- Target the lineout through kicking of Yachvili and 12T - with Joubert, Taofifenua, Shaw and Maka as jumpers.

- Huge carriers in Maka, Taofifenua, Joubert, Shaw and Scaysbrook to gain hard yards in the tight.

- In general attacking play, we will play off 9 with Yachvili our general pulling the strings.

- Use out attacking back three when we can - get the ball wide and look to cause damage.


London Irish
Manager – stnick88

01. Grant Shiells 09. Julien Dupuy
02. Tom Lindsay 10. Elton Jantjies
03. WP Nel
04. Dean Mumm 11. Sailosi Tagicakibau
05. Nick Kennedy 12. Shane Geraghty
06. Keegan Daniel 13. Mathieu Bastereaud
07. Will Fraser 14. Bjorn Basson
08. Netani Talei 15. Anthony Watson

16. Matt Stevens 17. James Buckland 18. Brok Harris 19. Stuart Hooper 20. Jerome Kaino 21. Neal De Kock 22. Lionel Beauxis 23. Guy Armitage


- Play an attacking game, get our talented back line involved as much as possible.

- Keep the ball alive, play an offloading game and dont get bogged down in to an arm wrestle.

- Fraser to target the breakdown and look for quick ball.

- Kick all pens in range, if not go for touch and use Kennedy as our main man.




London Wasps vs. Worcester Warriors

London Wasps
Manager – ‘Arry

01. Charlie Beech 09. Haydn Thomas
02. Nathan Morris 10. Stephen Jones (k)
03. Shaun Knight
04. Mouritz Botha 11. Tom Varndell
05. Marco Wentzel (c) 12. Dan Bowden
06. Dewald Potgieter 13. Matt Banahan
07. Jonathan Poff 14. Jamie Elliott
08. Billy Vunipola 15. Steven Myler

16. Huia Edmonds 17. Rhodri Jones 18. Carlos Nieto 19. Samu Manoa 20. Roger Wilson 21. Jonah Holmes 22. Dan Hipkiss 23. Jack Wallace


Worcester Warriors

01. Nathan Catt 09. Dwayne Peel
02. Korree Britton 10. Tom Heathcote (k)
03. Samson Lee
04. Ollie Kohn 11. James Short
05. Leo Cullen) 12. Sam Vesty
06. Tom Savage (c) 13. Jon Clarke
07. Chris Walker 14. Eli Walker
08. Ben Morgan 15. Rob Cook

16. Gary Botha 17. Chris Budgen 18. Beast 19. Juan Cruz Guilleman 20. Kearnen Myall 21. Eoin Reddan 22. Julien Malzieu 23. Sean Maitland

*Scrummaging pack to get the edge and Cullen will control the lineouts,
*Carriers in backrow and Walker to slow ball down and get turnovers,
*Impact bench of forwards who will be used,
*Territory is key but if it's on quick ball Heathcote will ship it,
*Vesty to look to get big runners involved,
*Back row to run off shoulders with all having good pace,
*Go for goal if needed,
*We want to take good form into the league,
*3 international backs to come on on the hour and hit tired and inexperienced defence,
*Fast-blitz defence with Peel sweeping.



Newport Gwent Dragons vs. Northampton Saints

Newport Gwent Dragons

01. Tim Ryan09. Jonathan Evans
02. Sam Parry10. Lewis Robling
03. Dan Way
04. Ian Nimmo11. Hallam Amos
05. Adam Jones12. Pat Leach
06. Ieuan Jones13. Ashley Smith
07. Jevon Groves14. Will Harries
08. Nic Cudd15. Dan Evans

16. Steve Jones17. Nathan Buck 18. Owen Evans 19. Josh Tyler 20. Andrew Coombs 21. Liam Davies 22. Steffan Jones 23. Ross Wardle


Northampton Saints
Manager – Dammit Chris

01. Loti Mulipola 09. Joe Simpson
02. Rob Webber 10. Danny Cipriani
03. Henry Thomas
04. Patricio Albacete 11. Siti Siviatu
05. Alun Wyn Jones 12. Matt Giteau
06. Calum Clark 13. Matt Tait
07. Julian Salvi 14. Christian Wade
08. Ashley Johnson 15. Niall Morris

Subs: 16. Mike Haywood 17. Sebastien Taofifenua 18. Carl Hayman 19. Courtney Lawes 20. Ben Nutley 21. Sam Harrison 22. George Ford 23. Ben Foden

Struggling to get online properly at work - pretty sure that none of the players I have picked will be part of the internationals this weekend, as think all are injured for next 2-3 weeks at least (Wyn Jones, Lawes, Albacete mainly - if anyone could make some changes for me if any of them get picked then would be appreciated!).

Tactics - to play a controlled game through the forwards, working through the phases and looking to get dominance up front, using the set piece to get attacking ball for the backline. Aggressive defence, forcing mistakes and turnovers - bring on youngsters in second half.




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Post by prop_lyd Fri Nov 16, 2012 6:56 pm

Sorry fella...I think that the 12 is the s.a under 20's guy right? Just felt that the experience from Bath would help quick ball here.
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Post by Guest Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:00 pm

Great prospects Both Steve. Sefontein brilliant as Is emery at u 20

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Post by prop_lyd Fri Nov 16, 2012 7:02 pm

This is the palce where I give my academy kids a bit of a run out too! Get to find out who people'll think will make it!
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Post by Driver Fri Nov 16, 2012 9:41 pm

Quins 20 Bath 23
Gloucester 26 Welsh 20
Newcastle 30 Ospreys 18
Tigers 17 Irish 20
Wasps 27 Wuss 19
NGD 15 Northampton 32
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:17 am






quins 26-24 bath
sale 23-28 sarries

falcons 42-20 ospreys
wasps 37-19 worcester
dragons 12-30 saints
Irish 25 -25 Leicester

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:31 am

Matt-if you don't mind could you say where I'm geting that hammering from please?
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:14 am

Prop I would say from my fat fingers lol I had it as 17-19 to you. Bloody phones !

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:16 am

Ok cheers matt! Sorry for questioning you and 'Arry I hope you don't mind me bringing that up.
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Post by Guest Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:06 pm

I would have noticed and corrected anyhow. Touch screen and giant mitts don't go together

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:07 pm

Harlequins 21-23 Bat

Just a bit more quality out for Bath

Sale 24-24 Sarries

Good game, Sarries a little better but home advantage

Gloucester 26-25 Welsh

Very tight, had to to look over this one for a while. 2 good sides very equal

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:08 pm

Tigers 19-23 Irish

Bit more balance to the Irish side, Tigers miss big names

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:11 pm

Wasps 20-19 Worcester

Another close one

Dragons 16-32 Saints

Dragons are gash

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Post by prop_lyd Sat Nov 17, 2012 12:19 pm

anonmattyt wrote:I would have noticed and corrected anyhow. Touch screen and giant mitts don't go together

That's why I've stuck with my bb!!
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Post by CJB Sat Nov 17, 2012 6:55 pm

Sharks 23-17 Sarries
Gloucester 24-22 Welsh
Falcons 33-22 Ospreys
Tigers 18-19 Irish
Wasps 26-24 Worcester
Dragons 17-32 Saints

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Post by 'Arry Spurs Sat Nov 17, 2012 7:38 pm

Quins 21 - 18 Bath
Sale 22 - 20 Saracens
Gloucester 35 - 30 London Welsh
Newcastle 20 - 6 Ospreys
Leicester 15 - 18 London Irish
NPG 13 - 33 Saints

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:14 am

RESULTS (Tries in brackets)

Harlequins 22 (2T) Bath Rugby 24 (3T)
Sale Sharks 26 (3T) Saracens 21 (2T)
Gloucester 30 (4T) London Welsh (3T)
Newcastle Falcons 36 (5T) Ospreys 16 (1T)
Leicester Tigers 21 (2T) London Irish 26 (3T)
London Wasps 25 (3T) Worcester Warriors 21 (2T)
Newport Gwent Dragons 14 (2T) Northampton Saints 36 (5T)
Scarlets 22 (1T) Cardiff Blues 16 (1T)


Pool One
Gloucester 10 pts
Newcastle Falcons 5 pts
Harlequins 2 pts
Dragons 0 pts

Pool Two
Worcester Warriors 6 pts
Sale Sharks 6 pts
Leicester Tigers 2 pts
Cardiff Blues 1 pt

Pool Three
London Wasps 8 pts
London Irish 6 pts
Saracens 5 pts
Scarlets 4 pts

Pool Four
Northampton Saints 10 pts
Bath Rugby 9 pts
London Welsh 5 pts
Ospreys 0 pts


Apologies for lack of decent pool tables but just have no time to do them at the moment.
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:40 am

Surprised i beat you Pete

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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:43 am

I'm not mate, it looked a tight one on paper and I thought at home you would take it. I think most people only had a a point or two in it in their predos which was about right. The one thing I thought might swing it my way was a bit more experience for me at 8,9,10, but sadly not to be!
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Post by dammit_chris Tue Nov 20, 2012 11:50 am

How on earth do these groups work! Baffles me completely every single season, must be the strangest group stages of any competition in the world.

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