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Schaefer Proposal to Arum on Rios

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Post by Herman Jaeger Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:00 pm

http://www.boxingscene.com/schaefer-proposal-arum-on-donaire-mares-rios--59419

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Post by BoxingFan88 Fri 16 Nov 2012, 9:47 pm

God I hate Bob Arum, he is totally ruining the sport!

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Post by jimmy glitter pants Fri 16 Nov 2012, 11:48 pm

Arum is the British version of Frank Warren but x10 worse, he is really bad for boxing, its not who is ducking who ie Pac v Floyd!! its the promoters and their greedy minds, they couldn't give a monkeys what the public want.

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Post by Lance Sat 17 Nov 2012, 9:33 pm

arum has delivered better fights over the past ten years than goldenboy or most other promoters. hes a crook, but so are most of them. hating arum has become fashionable i guess

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sat 17 Nov 2012, 9:36 pm

Arum has changed since DLH officially retired and focused purely on promoting. Arum is the one getting in the way of potentially great fights out of spite for DLH going solo.

He wants to hold Mares-Donaire and the entire show, then why not allow GB hold Matthysse-Rios, seems fair to me

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Post by Imperial Ghosty Sun 18 Nov 2012, 8:08 pm

Lance wrote:arum has delivered better fights over the past ten years than goldenboy or most other promoters. hes a crook, but so are most of them. hating arum has become fashionable i guess

I can't think of many great fights any promoter has put on consistently recently.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Mon 19 Nov 2012, 10:58 am

You see if the incentive for the winner was a crack at Manny or Money, then instantaneously Matthysse -Rios becomes a very serious fight. It's a great fight as it is, but with an added prize for the winner, the tension goes up to fever pitch.


It also make a fight between the winner of that and Floyd or Pacquaio that much more attractive to fans, knowing that a clear divisional number one has been established. More or less.

With respect to Danny Garcia and the rest, that argument is between Rios and Matthysse for me. The thing is though that it's wrong that Arum can dictate on the matchmaking. The governing body should decide surely. If the sport had just one governing body as was mentioned the other day, what a start that would be!

But just bypassing Matthysse seems a little too convenient to me. While Rios is a great little fighter who might fancy his chances against Matthysse, he hasn't yet fully earned the right to face Pacquaio. On a sidenote, if the Argentine were to win that fight, no foregone conclusion, I'd love to see Matthysse take on Money Mayweather. Specifically at light welterweight.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Mon 19 Nov 2012, 11:23 am

Yea Garcia is an accident waiting to happen and he has already bypassed Matthysse by taking on Judah so I doubt he will entertain the idea of fighting Lucas or Rios ( which won't happen as Garica is with GB) in the near future

Rios-Matthysse is a guaranteed barnstormer, more so than Alvarado which was a great fight too. Rios may not be the best but he has a huge fanbase and is a guy who doesn't want to duck anyone. He was willing to fight Gamboa, said he wanted Matthysse for his return bout, wanted the pacquiao fight etc

Mayweather can put bums on seats no matter who the opponent so Matthysse's lack of exposure won't matter too much, but I still doubt Mayweather wil leant to face Matthysse. He will win by shutout, but the risk that matthysee lands the punch or makes him look bad wont be worth it. I think Guerrero-Berto winner will be a bigger fight due to fanbases and neither are anything special so it should be an easy win

Matthysse-Pacquiao would be a more competitive fight than Pacquiao-Rios which is what Arum wants to make after Marquez. Matthysse isn't as crude and dealt well with the southpaw stances of Judah, Alexander and Olusegun well enough to suggest he could get to pacquiao who isn't the hardest to hit

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Thu 29 Nov 2012, 5:49 pm

http://www.boxingscene.com/bob-arum-shoots-down-richard-schaefers-proposal--59871?

Arum is a stain on the sport and his inability to work with GoldenBoy is disgusting and I hope he retires

Its either his way or the highway, wants to make money from GoldenBoy fighters but won't let GoldenBoy use his fighters

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 29 Nov 2012, 5:53 pm

So arum can have Mares services but yet GBP can not have Rios??

What??

Bob arum is a clown

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Post by BoxingFan88 Thu 29 Nov 2012, 11:01 pm

Its not Goldenboy and Top Rank won't work together, its Top Rank won't work with Goldenboy at all.

Arum is ruining the sport of boxing, those 2 fights would be absolute barnstormers!

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