Hector Camacho

I have just heard that Hector Camacho has been shot in the neck and face in a senseless act of violence. Thankfully although he is in critical condition, he is expected to survive.

http://ringtv.craveonline.com/blog/176019-hector-camacho-sr-shot-in-critical-condition-but-expected-to-survive

Horrible news on what has been a really bad year for the sport already with the deaths of boxing legends, lets hope we don't lose another one.

Just saw this on the BBC news. What an awful thing to happen.

Let's hope he fully recovers. Ridiculous waste

Heres to a full recovery

Hoping he pulls through ok. It's sad these things seem to keep happening in boxing.

Shocking news. Here's hoping the 'Macho Man' makes a full recovery.

I saw the name Hector Camacho and thought it was a long overdue appreciation of a guy who by today's standards should be an alltime great!!!

Wins against Limon, Rosario, Ramirez, Davis jr and Pazienza should be more than enough to give the guy with the world's fastest hands a hall of fame place when the title at three weights are added..

Hope he's not still in Brooklyn.........and hope he's okay...

Great fighter who is most underappreciated...

Watch Limon-Camacho on youtube to see what a nightmare he was..

Truss, he only stopped fighting two years ago and isn't there a rule you need to be retired for so many years before being eligible for induction into the Hall of Fame? He is a definite shoe in when the time comes.

Its not looking good guys, he is now in a coma after suffering a heart attack in hospital. I was not really watching boxing when he was active, but I have seen him on youtube and read about him.

This really is another horrible day for the sport, in what has been a horrible year.

You can add Boza-Edwards, Mancini and Haugen to that list of victims as well, Truss, although he cut it seriously, seriously fine against Haugen second time out! A touch fortunate there, but then again, he lost his title to that same man in pretty daft circumstances a few months before.

Certainly had the makings of a truly great, great fighter. Just a shame that he became such a cagey and negative operator after Rosario when he'd been such a dazzling and attractive one before.

Hope he's ok.

It takes 5 years to get into HOF after retirement I believe.

Some Bad news: According to Puerto Rican news, Hector Camacho is brain dead and on life machine, his mother will fly from NY to Puerto Rico, to decide when to take him off Life Support

Another legendary fighter dies this year.

RIP

Aye, I've just seen that announcement myself, KO-King. Apparently any kind of recovery now would be a "miracle" according to a hospital spokesperson.

Obviously, there'll be developments of some sort, but right now there doesn't seem to be any reason for this to have happened. Shocking.

Such a colorful life...........such a charismatic figure....one of the few lower weight fighters of his time to feature regularly on HBO......Controversial but hard to hate with it......Wonderful interview...

Remember when just before his fight with Davis jr his Manager hid his clothes so he couldn't go and have fun in the casino downstairs in the early hours.....

His Manager nearly died when he saw him pressing the lobby elevator button stark naked!!!

Who can forget his infamous Merchant interview!!!!

His habit of somehow surviving against DelaHoya and chavez types....when past his prime...

The time he was trying to get ready for the Rosario fight and his parents were having a domestic in the dressing room..."Yo I'm trying to get ready for a fight here d'you mine"

"Maybe If I was dead I'd be regarded as a great fighter, but I don't want to have to wait that long" - I remember that quote!!

Hector you didn't wait long enough Son!!!

I'm really really sorry that some scumbag never-do-well has finished your colorful life!!!!

You deserved so much better.....So many memories......no dull ones!!!!

Another guy I grew up with dies........and it doesn't half hit home....

Utterly tragic.....

I can't remember the fight, I remember the commentator saying something like 'the good think about camacho is that he has no shame' - referring to Camacho using spoiling tactics in the last 4 rounds to win a decision, in other words he'll do anything to get the victory.

Great fighter who fought at a time with such great names.

No angel himself with drug and drink problems, also domestic abuse issues but this is no way for a warrior to go out.

They say a miracle is needed so lets hope for 1.

Its unlikely as the doctors can't do anything for him.

As One Two said, this is a name remembered when there were many great fighters. A sad day for boxing.

Terrible year for boxing. I've good memories of a very gifted fighter, though to my mind a bit of an underachiever, and as Chris has said, very negative post Rosario. Tragic end, as seems all too common for ex-boxers. I guess to some degree it goes hand in hand with a violent profession, but tragic nonetheless

One has to remember he was pretty succesful after Rosario......He shut Edwards out with ease....

From a crowd pleasing aspect he went downhill but from a purely Boxing aspect winning without engaging and getting hurt showed his high threshold of talent....

To Livingstone Bramble....."I went up to him at the Hagler-Hearns fight and said you want to be friends..let's be friends....you want be macho with macho we can go into the parking lot right now!!"

Would have been a great build up had both won at the "preamble to Bramble!!!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIryQzMrteM&feature=related

milkyboy wrote:Terrible year for boxing. I've good memories of a very gifted fighter, though to my mind a bit of an underachiever, and as Chris has said, very negative post Rosario. Tragic end, as seems all too common for ex-boxers. I guess to some degree it goes hand in hand with a violent profession, but tragic nonetheless

He's the only fighter to stop Ray Leonard correct?

Technically correct, although it was a 40+ year old Leonard coming off a six year break.

Damn. RIP. Come on Bar Steward year. Be over.

Just read he is clincially brain dead, sad news.

Like Truss I grew up watching Hector, his flashy ring entrances and battles with Haugen stick out for me as well as the horrible a beat down Chavez gave him. Was never really the same fighter after getting buzzed off Rosario, buta terrific one all the same.

Thanks for the found memories Hector and RIP

Cheers Rodders

Very sad news, have also read that he is brain dead now which essentially means he has passed on. Very difficult time for the family, my uncle suffered brain stem death aged 42 after an anuerysm about ten years ago in Italy, very hard for his wife and daughters despite knowing he was effectively dead to agree to switch off the machines that were keeping his other organs alive.

Macho was a fine fighter in his day and a shoe in for the HoF when the time comes. Never fails to amaze me how much misery and ill fate finds its way to boxers outside the ropes.

RIP

Apparently there is a dispute in the family, some of them want him switched off life support, whilst others don't. There is nothing the doctors can do, its such a terrible tragedy.

I hope they catch the scumbags that did this and they get what they deserve.

Sugar Boy Sweetie wrote:Very sad news, have also read that he is brain dead now which essentially means he has passed on. Very difficult time for the family, my uncle suffered brain stem death aged 42 after an anuerysm about ten years ago in Italy, very hard for his wife and daughters despite knowing he was effectively dead to agree to switch off the machines that were keeping his other organs alive.

Macho was a fine fighter in his day and a shoe in for the HoF when the time comes. Never fails to amaze me how much misery and ill fate finds its way to boxers outside the ropes.

RIP

Unfortunately nearly all of the boxers come into the sport to escape this very life style, its a real shame that they cannot get away from it when they retire from boxing.

Very sad news. Always enjoyed watching Camacho.

It is official, the life support machine has been turned off. Hector Camacho is dead.

RIP Macho, a great loss and a great fighter.

RIP

MACHO MAN

Is boxing the only sport in history where a competitor can be involved in burglary, child abuse, drugs, domestic violence and whatever else and still receive so much love?

If Joey Barton was a better player, and even more of a nob, would people send their respects should he die early?

Boxers tend to get a free pass despite the cr@p they get up to because they are considered victims of their environment.

A dubious past during your development doesn't absolve you from responsibility for the things you do in your adult life

Deceased boxer in boxing forum tribute shocker.

Moderator answers legitimate question in immature manner shocker

Agree Mackem, some might say karma caught up with him.

Immature manner? What was your question? Would people pay tribute to Barton if he died tomorrow? Well sorry mate but yes, they would.

I don't get why people hate Barton so much these days. Sure he used to be a bell end, but it's not like his crimes were hugely serious.

Union Cane wrote:Immature manner? What was your question? Would people pay tribute to Barton if he died tomorrow? Well sorry mate but yes, they would.

The sensible question was.... Is boxing the only sport in history where a competitor can be involved in burglary, child abuse, drugs, domestic violence and whatever else and still receive so much love?

Boxers tend to get a free pass despite the cr@p they get up to because they are considered victims of their environment.

A dubious past during your development doesn't absolve you from responsibility for the things you do in your adult life

The second question was used for perspective (and it was rhetorical).....that's why I said, if he was a better player and more of a nob (i.e. child abuse, wife beating, burglary, drugs etc).....you can transpose Barton with any other name, it wasn't a dig at Barton, he was just the first controversial footballer that sprang to mind.

The first question was an attempt to stimulate debate rather than the usual three pages of R.I.P

Lumbering_Jack wrote:I don't get why people hate Barton so much these days. Sure he used to be a bell end, but it's not like his crimes were hugely serious.

Because a lot of football fans are brainless muppets - you only have to join your nearest rivals like Sol Campbell or get sent off for England like Beckham and the yob brigade will be burning effigies of you at the stadium. Barton is a bit of a sanctimonious unlikeable little thug, but if he were to die tomorrow only a moron wouldn't be sorry to see a young man lose his life, peope learn as they get older and have years to redeem themselves.

I wouldn't say boxers get a free pass from everyone, death doesn't absolve someone from the horrible things they've done (especially if like me you're atheist and don't expect some higher being to be waiting to judge them). So when passing comment on someone like Macho I'd just comment on his boxing skills & career and say RIP, am not interested in finding excuses for wife beaters and child abusers, there are none in my book.

Good post Sweetie, I hoped for something like that. Cheers!

If I recall correctly you posted something similar on the Carmen Basilio thread. Maybe consider starting a new thread to discuss your views on whether somebody saying RIP constitutes giving someone a free pass on their previous misdemeanors, as this is not the place for it.

With regard to the Basilio thread my main theme was how many great men pass without mention, and who is worthy of mention and who isn't.

Also, if this is not the thread to discuss Hector Camacho and the subsequent paying of respects then I am very confused.

Point being unless you have something good to say don't say it all on a thread paying respects to a great fighter who has unfortunately passed on.

yeah that's fair enough ghosty, but i don't actually agree with censorship or political correctness. I guess we can't speak bad of the dead huh? Hitler was a bit of a monster....oooooooohhhh i said it!

How is Hitler relevant to Hector Camacho and the subsequent paying of respects?

As I said, create a new thread if you feel the need to espouse your views thereof.

What you agree with is fairly inconsequential Mackem, the majority of us don't think it's the right time to be so negative of a recently deceased boxer.

How he was killed is tragic, and i feel for his family. However, on a forum, if what i think is inconsequential then so too is that of the majority when each of the majorities constituent parts are no more than a collection of singular thoughts (much like my own but seemingly different in content).

I haven't been negative either I have only stated some facts about Macho's life...... or should we ignore those wrong doings because he has recently passed and was good at what he does; boxing? If Tyson or Mayweather passed tomorrow, I'm sure r*** or wife beating would be mentioned somewhere.

Union, I hoped it be obvious why i mentioned Hitler? It was to make the point that we may speak negatively of the deceased if they are guilty of wrong doing.

Jimmy Saville raised a lot for charity but he was a bad person.

Hitler had great charisma but was responsible for genocide.

Camacho was a fantastic boxer but was a thug.

I don't think what I'm saying warrants a thread dedicated to it (it seems no one else does either because the lack of response indicates the "majority" are quite indifferent to the thoughts that you two are quite upset by).

Anywhoo, if it makes you's happy, then especially for you....

R.I.P Macho

From what I hear, his family member was found with cocaine on his person, several bags. You dice with the devil and all that....

R.I.P Macho.

JabMachineMK2 wrote:From what I hear, his family member was found with cocaine on his person, several bags. You dice with the devil and all that....

R.I.P Macho.

Well, lets be honest - we're all men of the world and we all know that if two men get professionally assassinated by gunfire at virtual point blank range in their car it's not by a rival missionary worker. Macho was no saint, we'll say no more than that.