The FACKTS

by Trebs Fri 23 Nov 2012, 12:19 pm

The second task - DEADLINE 2359 ON THURSDAY 29 NOVEMBER - is as follows:

You are Rafael Benitez, recently appointed as Interim Chelsea Manager. You want the job on a full-time basis. To get the job, your mandate from the owner is this - win the league, get to at least the semi-final of the Champions League, and win the FC Cup like last year. In order to do this, you can buy/sell as many players as you want in the January transfer window. In addition to funds raised, Abramovich has given you £50m to spend.

So that's it - win stuff, spend some money to do so. What I want from you is the detailed plans you would put together - from now until Christmas how you'll set up, who you'll buy in January, and how your team will set up from then until the end of the season.

Hero, you are the Captain of Team Wilshere, and Trebs, you are the Captain of Team Scholes. Please ask questions if you need any clarity.

Lord Azzy Mahmood

Current Squad

GOALKEEPERS
GK Petr Cech
GK Ross Turnbull
GK Henrique Hilario

DEFENDERS
RB Cesar Azpilacueta
RB Paulo Ferriera
RB/CB Branislav Ivanovic
CB David Luiz
CB Gary Cahill
CB Angelo Ogbonna
CB John Terry
LB Ashley Cole
LB Ryan Bertrand

MIDFIELDERS
RM Victor Moses
DM Oriol Romeu
DM John Obi Mikel
DM Yann M'Vila
CM Ramires
CM Morgan Schneiderlin
AM Oscar
AM Eden Hazard
LM Marko Marin
LM Juan Mata

FORWARDS
WG/ST Edinson Cavani
ST Daniel Sturridge
ST Fernando Torres

by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Nov 2012, 12:19 pm

First.

by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Nov 2012, 12:19 pm

An Mighty can you post what the task is about on our article.

by Trebs Fri 23 Nov 2012, 12:21 pm

Right, so first thing we need to do is work out who should be leaving the club.

I propose:
Ferriera - £875k
Malouda - £4.8m
Torres - £31m

Should all be given the boot

by Trebs Fri 23 Nov 2012, 12:24 pm

Also, we need to work out the strongest line up. I'm away till tonight, so if you can all have your say on the players we should sell and who you think the best XI is that'd be great.

After that, we'll look at the weak points, and find potential signings to improve. Then write out a tactical plan.

by Trebs Fri 23 Nov 2012, 12:29 pm

I'll be back tonight, make sure you all contribute something, it's a team effort.

by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Nov 2012, 12:48 pm

Cech
Ivanovic--Luiz--Terry--Cole
Mikel---Romeu
Ramires---Mata---Hazard
Torres

I think the Chelsea defence is not so bad its the lack of protection from midfield which exposes them that is the main problem. I prefer to play Ramires out wide that way he gets to play to his advatnage using his energy and long bursts, playing him in a DM role would take away what he is good at and I feel Mikel is a better more natural DM then him. Romeo would offer the passes to get the the game going.

Mata likes to drop deep into the DM role picking the ball up I think thats because of the lack of quality Chelsea have in that role I.E a Xabi Alonso and Hazard then drifts into the centre. I feel the three attackers can swap with each other.

Torres is striker but only because I'm forced to pick him, his TM value may be £31 but would any team in the world pay as that amount?

I think we need to obviously improve on our striker and I feel that we need a deep playmaker which allows Mata to play higher up the pitch and being a threat. You have to remember we can't make loads of signings only a couple we dont want to lose the chmistry of the team and at this moment we are only interm manager I dont think we can really go over board with changing the team as its not ours compltely.

by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Nov 2012, 12:52 pm

An the players I would sell would be Malouda and Torres, intitially I would have sold Ferreira but I think Chelsea are happy to keep him as utility man and he is happy to stay there. He can fill at RB, LB and as a last resort CB. If we sold him we would have to replace him that means signing another player that will want more game time and whos wages will be a lot more then Ferreria.

by sodhat Fri 23 Nov 2012, 2:49 pm

Get rid of Terry. He undermines anything he doesn't like, he's a real problem for a manager. Enhance the team unit!

Aside from that, I agree Torres might be expendable; but if we are Rafa Benitez, would he bin a striker he has a great history with? I don't think he would. Plus Abramovich loves him in the bum, like.

I say get another world class striker. Cavani or Falcao spring to mind as possibles.

I also think Mikel is rubbish. I would try and upgrade at DM to cut out the diabolical play there.

by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Nov 2012, 2:51 pm

What would be your current starting XI Sodhat?

Can we make alot of cuts and changes and still expect to win the title?

by sodhat Fri 23 Nov 2012, 2:54 pm

In a 4-2-3-1, I would have:

--------------Cech
Ivanovic---Luiz---Cahill---Cole
---------Romeu---Ramires
Mata---------Oscar------Hazard
-------------Torres

by sodhat Fri 23 Nov 2012, 2:55 pm

Not sure we need to think major changes - I think the changes we do make need to be game changing though. So probably using the 50m to get a top striker in, and cut some of the crap to improve DM and maybe the CB.

by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Nov 2012, 3:21 pm

I feel Ramires is too restricted in that area and to get the best out of him we need him to allow to stretch his legs. I'd like to bring in a deep playmaker and bring in a striker like Falcao which Chelsea have been linked with and on a deep playmaker.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 23 Nov 2012, 3:29 pm

Gotta get David Luiz out of there. He is a complete defensive liability

by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Nov 2012, 3:55 pm

We can't be dropping both Terry and Luiz.

by sodhat Fri 23 Nov 2012, 3:59 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:I feel Ramires is too restricted in that area and to get the best out of him we need him to allow to stretch his legs. I'd like to bring in a deep playmaker and bring in a striker like Falcao which Chelsea have been linked with and on a deep playmaker.

Could Oscar operate there? I think he is good enough to, it's just discipline to stick with it.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 23 Nov 2012, 4:02 pm

How about moving Luiz forward into Mikel's position? Sorry but Luiz has single handedly lost them games with his shocking cb play, it seems every goal is his fault

by FIFA Diva Fri 23 Nov 2012, 4:04 pm

sodhat wrote:
VivaPaulScholes wrote:I feel Ramires is too restricted in that area and to get the best out of him we need him to allow to stretch his legs. I'd like to bring in a deep playmaker and bring in a striker like Falcao which Chelsea have been linked with and on a deep playmaker.

Could Oscar operate there? I think he is good enough to, it's just discipline to stick with it.

Mata can play that role for Chelsea, constantly he is coming back picking up a 5 yard pass from Mikel and looking to make a forward pass but the thing is then we lose his great attacking play in the final third.

Cech
Ivanovic---CentreBack---Cahill/Luiz---Cole
Mikel---Deep Playmaker
Ramires----Mata----Hazard
Falcao/Cavani

With that team starting we can have Oscar come on as a sub, changing the game for us.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 23 Nov 2012, 4:23 pm

Wouldnt split up the front three of Mata, Hazard and Oscar personally. Will do my evaluation when on pc later tonight

by Trebs Fri 23 Nov 2012, 6:04 pm

Thanks for your opinions. It all depends on how this task is judged, I don't think the fans or anyone would be too happy selling Terry, but in terms of purely football perspective then it'd be a good move.

I'm happy to keep Torres, as long as the £50m is enough to get other signings we need. Luiz is a bit of a liability I would agree with that, but I like Cahill and think we should keep him, partnering him with someone. Question is, should we sell Luiz when we can get £20m for him?

---------------------------Cech------------------------
----Ivanovic-------???????------Cahill----------Cole-----
----------------??????-------------??????---------------
-----Hazard---------------Oscar--------------Mata-----
-------------------------????????-----------------------

Is where we stand at the moment.

So, we should look for targets in all of the positions.

Viva - CB
Sodhat - DM
Olly - CM
Me - ST

Sodhat and Olly, you may have some overlap in your targets but that's okay. We can work out who would work best. If you could make this your weekend work that'd be great, and we'll take a look on Monday at what you've found. Think about the realism of the transfers, and also have a look at who the club has been linked with IRL.

Cheers guys

Good work so far

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 23 Nov 2012, 6:08 pm

What sort of ballpark cash wise am I looking at Trebs my man?

by Trebs Fri 23 Nov 2012, 6:14 pm

Get a variety of different players, because as of yet I'm not really sure

Crucial thing as it's someone better than what we currently have

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Nov 2012, 12:11 am

CM - Maybe a Benat/Capoue/Bender - It all depends on the amount of money really.

May I also say we need to call Courtois back off his loan. I genuinely think he is better than Cech, who imo is a shadow of his former self

by Trebs Sun 25 Nov 2012, 6:40 pm

He'd be a good second choice but it's difficult to say. Can you look into the conditions of the loan and see if there's a recall option/compensation etc. please?

Also, Cole and Lampard are both not signing new contracts. Maybe we should offload both?

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Nov 2012, 6:41 pm

I'd be reluctant to offload Cole, but I would be for offloading Lampard for sure.

Will try and find some stuff out about the loan Ok!

by Trebs Sun 25 Nov 2012, 7:25 pm

STRIKER TRANSFER TARGETS:

by Trebs Sun 25 Nov 2012, 7:32 pm

Can I have everyone's thoughts on the strikers please? I have my own opinion on the two we should sign, but it's best

STARTING BUDGET - £50,000,000

Malouda - £4.8m
Torres - £31m
Lampard - £4.8m
Cole - £11m
= £51.6m

= £100m

We could also get rid of Luiz and Mikel if we need to raise more cash, giving us £36.5m more. This would only happen if we were short of signing other players though.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Nov 2012, 7:35 pm

On strikers I think Falcao or Cavani. We need someone to lead the line, and they do that

by FIFA Diva Sun 25 Nov 2012, 8:05 pm

Our aim is to look at the short term goal at the moment that's the key to taking over Chelsea long term.

The owner wants us to make the CL semi final and win FA Cup that means we can't look at any players that will be cup tied because it don't make sense spending big and they can't play.

Also if we are selling players we'll get less then the TM value and the players we want will cost more then the TM value.

by Trebs Sun 25 Nov 2012, 8:22 pm

Viva, that's true. But I do have a plan regarding that, I want us to sort out the transfers, and then we'll write two sets of tactics, one set for now and one set for after the January transfer window. I will mark all of the players who are Cup Tied as such in my post above, but I don't think that should dissuade us completely from signing those players as there are other competitions.

I asked Azzy and he said that TM Values determine the fees players are sold for

And using the TM price as a guide for signing a player seems sensible to me, may cost more or less.

My plan is to split us into four different roles once we have determined transfers:
1) Short Term Tactics
2) Long Term Tactics
3) Explanation of Buying
4) Explanation of Selling/Editor - Me as Selling is the easiest and I can help out with the others.

But first I want the squad finalized and I want everyone's input on that.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Nov 2012, 8:23 pm

I will do my CM's stuff later Trebs. Have it up for you by the morning

by Trebs Sun 25 Nov 2012, 8:24 pm

Olly

Sodhat, Viva, how long do you need?

by FIFA Diva Sun 25 Nov 2012, 8:33 pm

I just had 3 players up on my iPad went on another page and its gone lol. Ill do it on my notes an post it here. Give me an hour an it'll be done.

by Trebs Sun 25 Nov 2012, 8:33 pm

Good good

by FIFA Diva Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:11 pm

Name: Angelo Ogbonna
From: Torino
TM Value: £9.7m

A really good defender, he is strong, quick and very athletic. Strong in the tackle but he also has the ability as a ball playing defender. He has been linked with clubs before but no one has matched the asking price of his club. He has experience playing in Seria A known league for quality defenders and he has previously said that the premier league is fascinating. He will definitely reach the highest stage of Football it's just when.

Name: Fernando Amorebieta
From: Athletic Bilbao
TM Value: £8.6m

Last season it was Martinez who got all the plaudits but it was this man that was the best defender for his team, he has brought that form into this season with mature performances and leading the defence. Intelligent defender who uses his brain and positioning to win his battles. Mata and Azpilicueta would help him settle in.

Name: Fabricio Coloccini
From: Newcastle United
TM Value: £7m

Has the experience in England and knows what the Football is like here so he wouldn't need to adapt to that. At 30 years old he won't be getting many more chances to play for a bigger team which he deserves. A strong defender, who loves to fight in the trenches put his body on the line like John Terry.

Name: Diego Godín
From: Atletico Madrid
TM Value: £10.5m

Composed continental defender who brings calmness to a shaky defence, has the physical attributes to mix it up with his ball playing style. He is a player who should be playing in Europes elite competition. He has played against some of the best attackers and teams in the world and does not look out of place. At a bigger and better club he is a player that will relish the chance.

by FIFA Diva Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:12 pm

There are players such as Howdes, Subotic, Hummels, Chiellini etc but these guys are playing CL Football and I can't see Chelsea spending that much on. Player that can't play CL Football.

by Trebs Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:23 pm

It's fine Viva, I think we should go for Godin

So Godin & Baines definite signings so far?

by FIFA Diva Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:27 pm

Ogbonna would be my choice.

by FIFA Diva Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:28 pm

Cole > Baines

by sodhat Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:28 pm

Daniele De Rossi
£30m

Yann M'Vila
£16m

Lucas Biglia
£7.5m

Kevin Strootman
£7.9m

Jordy Clasie
£4.4m

All are, I believe, not cup tied.

I don't think it will take much to upgrade on Mikel, so any of these would do!

by Trebs Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:31 pm

I would prefer Baines myself, but I'm happy to go on a majority vote

I don't want De Rossi, I'm not a fan of his really. I would like Yann M'Vila if I'm honest of those options, great player.

Falcao, Neymar and Cavani would all not be cup-tied and I think they're the three main choices

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:32 pm

Not sure Neymar is the type of striker Chelsea need personally

by FIFA Diva Sun 25 Nov 2012, 9:36 pm

Biglia offers the forward players to do what they while he links the play I'd play an aggressive DM next to him. If wego for Strootman maybe need some with better ball skills.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 26 Nov 2012, 12:31 am

Joao Moutinho - Porto - £23 million

Marouane Fellaini - Everton - £17.5 million

Beñat Etxebarria - Real Betis - £8.8 million

Henrikh Mkhitaryan - Shakhtar Donetsk - £15 million

Ilkay Gündogan - Borussia Dortmund - £12.5 million

Now I know for sure Benat and Fellaini wouldnt be cup tied for the CL, Gundogan is, not sure about Moutinho or the name I cant spell

by Trebs Mon 26 Nov 2012, 8:56 am

Right, now we have our potential targets, i want everyone's input on the best striker, centre back and midfield pairing please. Also whether you'd prefer cole or baines at left back.

Cheers

by FIFA Diva Mon 26 Nov 2012, 9:53 am

Striker = Falcao
Centre Back = Ogbonna
Biglia + Mikel
Ashely Cole

We don't need to sign two midfielders just the one and I feel a ball playing one is the most important, we are looking to get through this season and making too many changes won't help.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Mon 26 Nov 2012, 11:08 am

Striker = Falcao, but Cavani would be a good alternative if you wanted to save some cash.
Centre half = Ogbonna is the best from those four imo
I would go for Moutinho in CM along with maybe M'Vila
And I would keep Cole at LB. For the money it would cost Baines is pretty similar to Cole.

I'm not around until after 3:30 today lads, got school

by Trebs Mon 26 Nov 2012, 11:18 am

I'd like cavani myself, i think we could also possibly play him with torres in attack on thewing, keeping the confidence high.
Also, baines would only be 5m when you consider cole csn be sold for 11m

by FIFA Diva Mon 26 Nov 2012, 11:21 am

Torres struggles to play in his main position as CF let alone out wide where he'll have to be a lot more involved in the build up. My issue is who is going to sign Torres?

by FIFA Diva Mon 26 Nov 2012, 3:53 pm

WHere are you guys?

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