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Post 35
by davidemore Thu 13 Dec 2012, 8:30 pm
Who are the top 5 post 35 year-old boxers active today? In any weight category.
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Re: Post 35
by John Bloody Wayne Thu 13 Dec 2012, 10:09 pm
Carl Froch
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Manuel Marquez
Sergio Martinez
Floyd Mayweather
Not in order, mind.
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Manuel Marquez
Sergio Martinez
Floyd Mayweather
Not in order, mind.
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Re: Post 35
by All Time Great Thu 13 Dec 2012, 10:18 pm
John Bloody Wayne wrote:Carl Froch
Bernard Hopkins
Juan Manuel Marquez
Sergio Martinez
Floyd Mayweather
Not in order, mind.
Wladimir in this list in place of Hopkins for me.
Funny how all of these are also top 10 P4P'ers.
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Re: Post 35
by John Bloody Wayne Fri 14 Dec 2012, 12:56 am
Yeah I wouldn't disagree with either K bro being ahead of the current B Hop come to think of it.
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Re: Post 35
by Champagne_Socialist Fri 14 Dec 2012, 1:06 am
I would put both klitschko's ahead of all in that list except mayweather. Both the K's are the cream of their division whilst Froch in my view is the 3rd best in his division and has had a couple of recent losses. Marquez is only in that list cos he beat a faded manny. Bernard hopkins is no longer the main man and has had a couple of recent defeats poor/performances.
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Re: Post 35
by John Bloody Wayne Fri 14 Dec 2012, 3:13 am
I know you're not alone in that view victor, but I can't look past two things.
A) Their level of opposition is awful. I know it's not their fault but it's true anyway.
B) They can't both be the best in their division.
Froch has lost twice, as has Wladimir. Wlad's losses were longer ago but to massively inferior fighters and the unavenged Sanders thrashing was more one sided than either of Froch's. Basically I rate the second best super middle in the world ahead of the best heavy, because one is arguably the richest division and the other is arguably the weakest. Also Wlad and Vitali don't have to face each other, whereas Frch had to take on the best in the division.
Martinez began at welter, is probably a natural welter/junior middle. Currently the linear champ at 160 with conclusive wins over Pavlik and Williams. Nearly shutout one of the biggest, if not the best, middleweights I've ever seen in his last fight.
Marquez is streets ahead and was before he brutally KO'd a guy who was ripping apart the likes of Cotto not THAT long ago and looked like he was back to his old self. Add in being the man at 130 and 135 with several other very good wins to along with being the bane and anihilator of one of the best of his generation Marquez stays ahead of the Ks for me.
My ammended list would, in order, be:
Mayweather
Marquez
Martinez
Froch
W Klistchko
A) Their level of opposition is awful. I know it's not their fault but it's true anyway.
B) They can't both be the best in their division.
Froch has lost twice, as has Wladimir. Wlad's losses were longer ago but to massively inferior fighters and the unavenged Sanders thrashing was more one sided than either of Froch's. Basically I rate the second best super middle in the world ahead of the best heavy, because one is arguably the richest division and the other is arguably the weakest. Also Wlad and Vitali don't have to face each other, whereas Frch had to take on the best in the division.
Martinez began at welter, is probably a natural welter/junior middle. Currently the linear champ at 160 with conclusive wins over Pavlik and Williams. Nearly shutout one of the biggest, if not the best, middleweights I've ever seen in his last fight.
Marquez is streets ahead and was before he brutally KO'd a guy who was ripping apart the likes of Cotto not THAT long ago and looked like he was back to his old self. Add in being the man at 130 and 135 with several other very good wins to along with being the bane and anihilator of one of the best of his generation Marquez stays ahead of the Ks for me.
My ammended list would, in order, be:
Mayweather
Marquez
Martinez
Froch
W Klistchko
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