Wales' half back combo's for 6N

Just a vote to see who everyone wants as our half back combinations going into the 6N

Phillips and Biggar

Biltong wrote:Phillips and Biggar

Why have you decided to stick with Phillips billy?

I went for Knoyle.Biggar.

Wont Hook be unavalibe for the 6ns due to an shoulder injury? And is Phillips the best 9 that Wales have?

Why not include Patchell with the flyhalfs?

You included Davies with the scrum Halfs

I was going to then I thought the list would very long so just put (other) as in patchell and someone. I don't think Patchell should be rushed in, i'm looking at the starting team really.

Liam wrote:

Biltong wrote:Phillips and Biggar

Why have you decided to stick with Phillips billy?

I like him, he reminds me of Joost, and when he is on song he is very good, the only criticism I have of him is his selfishness or lack of vision when he goes on the run, he just needs to look for the supporting runner to offload to when he makes a break, then he will do very nicely.

Biltong wrote:

Liam wrote:

Biltong wrote:Phillips and Biggar

Why have you decided to stick with Phillips billy?

I like him, he reminds me of Joost, and when he is on song he is very good, the only criticism I have of him is his selfishness or lack of vision when he goes on the run, he just needs to look for the supporting runner to offload to when he makes a break, then he will do very nicely.

He's always been very good in and around the ruck. the amount of times he's picked up and found a gap is tremendous, especially the one in the 1st test vs South Africa in 2009. Trouble is, recently he's been awful for club and country and his distribution is so slow now, its actually causing us to go backwards with no momentum going forward. With Biggar probably starting in the 6N, he needs kick service and Phillips won't offer that.

Its got to be Phillips and Biggar.

Biltong wrote:

Liam wrote:

Biltong wrote:Phillips and Biggar

Why have you decided to stick with Phillips billy?

I like him, he reminds me of Joost, and when he is on song he is very good, the only criticism I have of him is his selfishness or lack of vision when he goes on the run, he just needs to look for the supporting runner to offload to when he makes a break, then he will do very nicely.

Biltong

Phillips is nothing like Joostvanderwesthusin. Joost is by far the better player, far more skill full around the park.

majesticimperialman wrote:

Biltong wrote:

Liam wrote:

Biltong wrote:Phillips and Biggar

Why have you decided to stick with Phillips billy?

I like him, he reminds me of Joost, and when he is on song he is very good, the only criticism I have of him is his selfishness or lack of vision when he goes on the run, he just needs to look for the supporting runner to offload to when he makes a break, then he will do very nicely.

Biltong

Phillips is nothing like Joostvanderwesthusin. Joost is by far the better player, far more skill full around the park.

He still reminds me of him.

Philips looks good at what he does - but you also have to remember what he doesn't do - give a fast pass away from the ruck!

majesticimperialman wrote:

Biltong wrote:

Liam wrote:

Biltong wrote:Phillips and Biggar

Why have you decided to stick with Phillips billy?

I like him, he reminds me of Joost, and when he is on song he is very good, the only criticism I have of him is his selfishness or lack of vision when he goes on the run, he just needs to look for the supporting runner to offload to when he makes a break, then he will do very nicely.

Biltong

Phillips is nothing like Joostvanderwesthusin. Joost is by far the better player, far more skill full around the park.

I think he is similar to Joost in that they are/were big scrum halves, who like to snipe. Phillips is also a very good defender and both liked to mix it up a bit. When Phillips is on his game, there are a lot of similarities.

I will say that I can't take your opinion on scrum half play too seriously, when you're suggesting Tavis Knoyle to start in the 6 Nations.

Liam wrote:I was going to then I thought the list would very long so just put (other) as in patchell and someone. I don't think Patchell should be rushed in, i'm looking at the starting team really.

But Davies should?

Gareth Davies has only played a couple of games for Scarlets recently. It's been all Knoyle and Aled Williams.

Davies has had more regional games and he has done well but no different to Knoyle, Webb or Williams when they first broke on to the seen. All look good then struggle after a while.

Patchell really is looking good.

I do agree with your point that starting him would be a bold and unlikely move. Good to see him make the squad, maybe get sometime from the bench...!

It should be Phillips/Hook, of course, but then it should have been that for the last 5 years. Priestland seemed undroppable, but injury means Biggar is certain to start.

Doesn't really matter who plays at 10 though - Wales' gameplan is such that we just need anyone who can hoof it a decent distance down the pitch. This also means that 'fast service' and all that nonsense is irrelevant. Phillips gets a lot of undeserved criticism. There are no realistic alternatives, given that Peel hurt Gatland's feelings by ignoring the 'don't play in England' rant - and his 'extra back row' qualities allow us to field a 'finesse' player at 8.

Is Peel even playing? I havent heard his name mentioned once this season. Why would he be a contender for Wales.

I don't agree with you theory of upsetting Gatland as Peel had also arranged to move to Sale before Gatland asked players to stay in Wales and has been capped since. Most of the last four years Peel has been in poor form or injured hense not capped.

Peel is selected to start for Sale against Saracens.

Even out of form/unfit/missing a limb, Peel is still a better scrum half than Tavis Knoyle and most of the others. The other Llanelli boy looks decent, but reviews seem mixed? We need ScarletSpidey or Smirnoff for an informed opinion - if they are still on here?

Phillips is still best of an average bunch at the moment. Biggar is our form 10 and surely must start.

Again, 'form 10' is irrelevant.

'Can hoof it', is relevant.

Casartelli wrote:Again, 'form 10' is irrelevant.

'Can hoof it', is relevant.

??????????

So are you saying we don't now pick form players

Casartelli wrote:Again, 'form 10' is irrelevant.

'Can hoof it', is relevant.

Does the ball have to be hoofed down the field?

Wouldn't Wales be better off (trying to keep ball in hand?) Try to play attacking rugby?

majesticimperialman wrote:

Casartelli wrote:Again, 'form 10' is irrelevant.

'Can hoof it', is relevant.

Does the ball have to be hoofed down the field?

Wouldn't Wales be better off (trying to keep ball in hand?) Try to play attacking rugby?

It isn't us supporters you need to convince Madge, it's Gatland or more specifically our attack guru Howley. Cas is bang on with what he says.

Risca Rev wrote:

majesticimperialman wrote:

Casartelli wrote:Again, 'form 10' is irrelevant.

'Can hoof it', is relevant.

Does the ball have to be hoofed down the field?

Wouldn't Wales be better off (trying to keep ball in hand?) Try to play attacking rugby?

It isn't us supporters you need to convince Madge, it's Gatland or more specifically our attack guru Howley. Cas is bang on with what he says.

Rev why would the coach tell the players to do something that doesn't work...???

Seriously, if a team plays badly you lot always blame one player or a coach.



It's a team effort and stupid decisions are made by all.

Maes,

It is a team effort I agree but the coach picks that team and ultimately has the choice to make changes if certain players are not doing their job.

That for me is an area where Howley has failed in our recent games.

I don't disagree with you but far too much emphasis is assumed by the fans on the impact of a coaching team and one or two players mistakes in a game.