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Post by Biltong Mon 14 Jan 2013, 1:52 pm

I took each of the test teams (excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) last 50 tests they played to see how often do teams win or lose by an innings.

South Africa and England came out ontop as the two most ruthless when it comes to finishing off teams.

SA 13 wins by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett 11
England wins by an innings 12 - 3 losses by an innings - nett 8
Australia 6 wins by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett 2
India 6 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -1
Pakistan 1 win by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett -1
West Indies 1 win by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett -3
New Zealand 2 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -5
Sri Lanka 1 win by an innings - 6 losses by an innings - nett -5

South Africa and England are quite a margin ahead of the other teams.
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Post by gboycottnut Mon 14 Jan 2013, 2:21 pm

Biltong wrote:I took each of the test teams (excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) last 50 tests they played to see how often do teams win or lose by an innings.

South Africa and England came out ontop as the two most ruthless when it comes to finishing off teams.

SA 13 wins by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett 11
England wins by an innings 12 - 3 losses by an innings - nett 8
Australia 6 wins by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett 2
India 6 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -1
Pakistan 1 win by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett -1
West Indies 1 win by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett -3
New Zealand 2 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -5
Sri Lanka 1 win by an innings - 6 losses by an innings - nett -5

South Africa and England are quite a margin ahead of the other teams.

Well the one crucial factor in both of South Africa and England's big innings victories has been the quality pace bowling attack of the two sides, and also Australia are starting to produce their own quality pace attack as well.

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Post by dazmcspaz Tue 15 Jan 2013, 8:17 pm

Just curious - what does it look like if you exclude innings wins against Bang and Zim from the results as well?

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Post by Biltong Tue 15 Jan 2013, 8:41 pm

NZ had a win by an innings vs Zim


VS Bangladesh by an innings
Sri Lanka 3 out of 5
SA 3 out of 4
India 1 out of 4
Eng 1 out of 4
NZ 1 out of 5
WI 0 out of 6
PAK 1 out of 2
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 1:39 am

Biltong wrote:I took each of the test teams (excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) last 50 tests they played to see how often do teams win or lose by an innings.

South Africa and England came out ontop as the two most ruthless when it comes to finishing off teams.

SA 13 wins by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett 11
England wins by an innings 12 - 3 losses by an innings - nett 8
Australia 6 wins by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett 2
India 6 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -1
Pakistan 1 win by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett -1
West Indies 1 win by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett -3
New Zealand 2 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -5
Sri Lanka 1 win by an innings - 6 losses by an innings - nett -5

South Africa and England are quite a margin ahead of the other teams.

Ya that's true but even look at the home or away wins also. English team in Subcontinent is pathetic. All these matches that they won were played in their own favorable condition. If we leave the last year test series English team was in search of even a single win no matter how it comes and still they didn't get that.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Wed 16 Jan 2013, 10:31 am

Guess that just makes it all the worse for India they lost the series then doesn't it sonic

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Post by Duty281 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 12:32 pm

subhranshu.kumar.5 wrote:
Biltong wrote:I took each of the test teams (excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) last 50 tests they played to see how often do teams win or lose by an innings.

South Africa and England came out ontop as the two most ruthless when it comes to finishing off teams.

SA 13 wins by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett 11
England wins by an innings 12 - 3 losses by an innings - nett 8
Australia 6 wins by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett 2
India 6 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -1
Pakistan 1 win by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett -1
West Indies 1 win by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett -3
New Zealand 2 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -5
Sri Lanka 1 win by an innings - 6 losses by an innings - nett -5

South Africa and England are quite a margin ahead of the other teams.

Ya that's true but even look at the home or away wins also. English team in Subcontinent is pathetic. All these matches that they won were played in their own favorable condition. If we leave the last year test series English team was in search of even a single win no matter how it comes and still they didn't get that.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 3:19 pm

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Guess that just makes it all the worse for India they lost the series then doesn't it sonic


Indian test team is facing the transition. After the retirement of Dravid and laxman, Indian middle order has sacked but they are building up and will soon be back on track. But after taking the crown English team lost their 6 out of the 8 they played. And this defeat includes the 3-0 series loss to Pakistan. Even they were bowled out for 72 chasing a mere 144 and English team was not in transition that time. Being a number 1 side the way they play the spin is just pathetic.
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 3:23 pm

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Welcome back kp_fan!


Kp is a wonderful player....
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Post by JDizzle Wed 16 Jan 2013, 5:45 pm

subhranshu.kumar.5 wrote:
Biltong wrote:I took each of the test teams (excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) last 50 tests they played to see how often do teams win or lose by an innings.

South Africa and England came out ontop as the two most ruthless when it comes to finishing off teams.

SA 13 wins by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett 11
England wins by an innings 12 - 3 losses by an innings - nett 8
Australia 6 wins by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett 2
India 6 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -1
Pakistan 1 win by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett -1
West Indies 1 win by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett -3
New Zealand 2 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -5
Sri Lanka 1 win by an innings - 6 losses by an innings - nett -5

South Africa and England are quite a margin ahead of the other teams.

Ya that's true but even look at the home or away wins also. English team in Subcontinent is pathetic. All these matches that they won were played in their own favorable condition. If we leave the last year test series English team was in search of even a single win no matter how it comes and still they didn't get that.

Those well known English strongholds of Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney...

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Post by VTR Wed 16 Jan 2013, 6:44 pm

Oh no, he's back, and the drivel level is turned up to 11!

India only lost because they are in transition. Classic!

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Post by Duty281 Wed 16 Jan 2013, 6:54 pm

subhranshu.kumar.5 wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Guess that just makes it all the worse for India they lost the series then doesn't it sonic


Indian test team is facing the transition. After the retirement of Dravid and laxman, Indian middle order has sacked but they are building up and will soon be back on track. But after taking the crown English team lost their 6 out of the 8 they played. And this defeat includes the 3-0 series loss to Pakistan. Even they were bowled out for 72 chasing a mere 144 and English team was not in transition that time. Being a number 1 side the way they play the spin is just pathetic.

Doesn't say a lot for Ashwin and Ojha then does it? laughing

England 4-0 India
India 1-2 England

But's it alright because India are in transition! laughing

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 2:48 am

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subhranshu.kumar.5 wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Guess that just makes it all the worse for India they lost the series then doesn't it sonic


Indian test team is facing the transition. After the retirement of Dravid and laxman, Indian middle order has sacked but they are building up and will soon be back on track. But after taking the crown English team lost their 6 out of the 8 they played. And this defeat includes the 3-0 series loss to Pakistan. Even they were bowled out for 72 chasing a mere 144 and English team was not in transition that time. Being a number 1 side the way they play the spin is just pathetic.

Doesn't say a lot for Ashwin and Ojha then does it? laughing

England 4-0 India
India 1-2 England

But's it alright because India are in transition! laughing


Ya may be Indian Team had a pathetic tour of England and aussies, but that was a bad time even England faced that losing 5-0 to Aussies in Ashes and the recovered winning the last series. The same will be with India also. They will also recover soon. And for ashwin he is new in the team. He has not played even 20 test matches. he lack's experience. No doubt Ojha bowled brilliantly but this guy is also 20 test match old. They will for sure be the next Kumble and Bhajji for India. And for the English men losing Only KP led them to lose the series against SA. Wht u wl say about this....
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 2:53 am

VTR wrote:Oh no, he's back, and the drivel level is turned up to 11!

India only lost because they are in transition. Classic!

But England lost their 6 out of 8 matches being on the throne. They were not in transition...
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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 2:56 am

JDizzle wrote:
subhranshu.kumar.5 wrote:
Biltong wrote:I took each of the test teams (excluding Bangladesh and Zimbabwe) last 50 tests they played to see how often do teams win or lose by an innings.

South Africa and England came out ontop as the two most ruthless when it comes to finishing off teams.

SA 13 wins by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett 11
England wins by an innings 12 - 3 losses by an innings - nett 8
Australia 6 wins by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett 2
India 6 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -1
Pakistan 1 win by an innings - 2 losses by an innings - nett -1
West Indies 1 win by an innings - 4 losses by an innings - nett -3
New Zealand 2 wins by an innings - 7 losses by an innings - nett -5
Sri Lanka 1 win by an innings - 6 losses by an innings - nett -5

South Africa and England are quite a margin ahead of the other teams.

Ya that's true but even look at the home or away wins also. English team in Subcontinent is pathetic. All these matches that they won were played in their own favorable condition. If we leave the last year test series English team was in search of even a single win no matter how it comes and still they didn't get that.

Those well known English strongholds of Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney...

What about sub continent...
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Post by Duty281 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 7:17 am

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Duty281 wrote:
subhranshu.kumar.5 wrote:
Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Guess that just makes it all the worse for India they lost the series then doesn't it sonic


Indian test team is facing the transition. After the retirement of Dravid and laxman, Indian middle order has sacked but they are building up and will soon be back on track. But after taking the crown English team lost their 6 out of the 8 they played. And this defeat includes the 3-0 series loss to Pakistan. Even they were bowled out for 72 chasing a mere 144 and English team was not in transition that time. Being a number 1 side the way they play the spin is just pathetic.

Doesn't say a lot for Ashwin and Ojha then does it? laughing

England 4-0 India
India 1-2 England

But's it alright because India are in transition! laughing


Ya may be Indian Team had a pathetic tour of England and aussies, but that was a bad time even England faced that losing 5-0 to Aussies in Ashes and the recovered winning the last series. The same will be with India also. They will also recover soon. And for ashwin he is new in the team. He has not played even 20 test matches. he lack's experience. No doubt Ojha bowled brilliantly but this guy is also 20 test match old. They will for sure be the next Kumble and Bhajji for India. And for the English men losing Only KP led them to lose the series against SA. Wht u wl say about this....

What do I say? Strauss should of retired after India 2011, the whole team looked tired and uninspiring in the 4 series after that in which Strauss was captain. It's no coincidence that England became a fresh and hungry team again when Cook was captain for the tour of India.

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Post by ShankyCricket Thu 17 Jan 2013, 7:28 am

Is KPfan back with a new ID? Erm

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Post by VTR Thu 17 Jan 2013, 9:41 am

Of course it can be argued: A new captain, a new opener, a player being reintigrated, a revamped middle order. Sounds like a transition to me.

So England in transition were far better than India in transition in Indian conditions (which was part of the subcontinent last time I looked).

And yes Shanky, I would say KP_fan is back in his umpteenth guise.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 11:52 am

VTR wrote:Of course it can be argued: A new captain, a new opener, a player being reintigrated, a revamped middle order. Sounds like a transition to me.

So England in transition were far better than India in transition in Indian conditions (which was part of the subcontinent last time I looked).

And yes Shanky, I would say KP_fan is back in his umpteenth guise.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 11:55 am

And ya one win doesn't means they have reached the level. Ya Indian team too won the test series in England in 2007.
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Post by VTR Thu 17 Jan 2013, 12:01 pm

How come your writing style has suddenly changed to gangsta-speak? In the space of a few posts.

Come....on.....KP_Fan.......at.....least........your......last........guise.....had.......consistency..........from.......the........start

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 12:04 pm

VTR wrote:How come your writing style has suddenly changed to gangsta-speak? In the space of a few posts.

Come....on.....KP_Fan.......at.....least........your......last........guise.....had.......consistency..........from.......the........start


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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 12:44 pm

I m a new member here..Though a KP fan but not that I have a changed ID.
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Post by Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler Thu 17 Jan 2013, 1:54 pm

Would it just be easier if we all just liked KP but hated everyone else who is highly rated for England including the coaches and former players and did our level best to put a negative spin on the teams record and players lives?
That would save anyone worrying about who is and isnt anyone else and save a lot of arguments.

I do think KP would be better off playing in the BBL than this stupid series with England B.

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Post by Pete C (Kiwireddevil) Thu 17 Jan 2013, 3:49 pm


Folks, I've done a few checks and at this stage I don't believe the poster KP_Fan has returned with a new account.

So please lay off the accusations - if someone's logic is full of holes just point out the holes and leave it at that.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 3:56 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
Folks, I've done a few checks and at this stage I don't believe the poster KP_Fan has returned with a new account.

So please lay off the accusations - if someone's logic is full of holes just point out the holes and leave it at that.



Ya I m not the one The old one. I am a new member here. Its an open discussion forum. Don't be too rough. I respect ur views and what i believe is my way of thinking.
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Post by Duty281 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 4:03 pm

Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
Folks, I've done a few checks and at this stage I don't believe the poster KP_Fan has returned with a new account.

So please lay off the accusations - if someone's logic is full of holes just point out the holes and leave it at that.


But his IP address can easily be changed via a proxy.

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Post by subhranshu.kumar.5 Thu 17 Jan 2013, 4:23 pm

Duty281 wrote:
Pete C (Kiwireddevil) wrote:
Folks, I've done a few checks and at this stage I don't believe the poster KP_Fan has returned with a new account.

So please lay off the accusations - if someone's logic is full of holes just point out the holes and leave it at that.


But his IP address can easily be changed via a proxy.

I m not the 1 u were wondering. I am a new member here.
Ignre all this back to the discussion. Wink
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