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Post by bogbrush Mon 21 Jan 2013, 1:51 pm

First topic message reminder :

What's gone is gone, now the business end emerges. The favourites have contrasting fortunes in their matches, so who has it tough and who has the cupcake draw?

1. Djokovic v Berdych; toughness rating 9.2

Basically, Berdych is the best player outside the top 4 (Ferrer included) defined as a threat to a top player. Sure, his h2h against Djokovic is dire but after the Stan experience Tomas will have his high hopes. He needs to hit big and be aggressive, especially on return of serve to unsettle Novak (the disintegration of the Djokovic serve for a set and a half was alarming to his fans).

2. Federer v Tsonga; toughness rating 8.5

Tsonga has form for taking out big boys, including this particular big boy. He also has form for falling apart, but nonetheless he's powerful, experienced and won't be afraid like perhaps one or two schoolboys have recently been against TMF. I'd say he needs to win the first set but we know he doesn't even need to win one of the first two. Second-hardest possible quarter for sure.

3. Ferrer v El Mugro; toughness rating 5.5

Hapless Nico will turn up and swing his elegant backhand, then fall apart as soon as the going gets tough. Nice draw for Daveed, who is redfining "under the radar" for a top 4 seed.

4. Murray v Chardy; toughness rating 0.1

Jeremy will definitely appear and is a confirmed professional tennis player. Beyond that there's not much to say. Do you want cream with that?
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Post by User 774433 Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:43 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:$300 Canadian? Isn't that about £12?
Learn your exchange rates OK

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Post by banbrotam Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:44 pm

lags72 wrote:I really don't like the way in which so many players - especially those who have already shown the necessary talent & ability to reach the upper echelons of one of today's most gruelling sports - are so often dismissed ahead of high profile matches


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Post by JuliusHMarx Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:45 pm

If I used the real exchange rate, people might think I was being serious.

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Post by User 774433 Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:46 pm

banbrotam wrote:
lags72 wrote:I really don't like the way in which so many players - especially those who have already shown the necessary talent & ability to reach the upper echelons of one of today's most gruelling sports - are so often dismissed ahead of high profile matches


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Because they're facing other professional players who have strangle-holds on them on that particular surface.
I'm not dissing the players I'm saying will lose, I'm just saying for that match they're very unlikely to win.
I don't say this very often, in-fact I've stated this only 3 times in 2 years on 606v2.

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Post by User 774433 Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:48 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:If I used the real exchange rate, people might think I was being serious.
It's actually a tenner.
Canadian government are opting for hyperinflation- Germany 1927 style.

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Post by invisiblecoolers Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:50 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:$300 Canadian? Isn't that about £12?

One time it was like 3 times the value, right now pound is on descendency and Canadian dollar on all time high its close to 1.30 times I guess, so $ 300 would be close to 225 pounds Very Happy

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Post by invisiblecoolers Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:52 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:$300 Canadian? Isn't that about £12?
Learn your exchange rates OK

Tat was just a fun post IMBL, we can't take matters so seriously in an Online forum. OK

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Post by JuliusHMarx Tue 22 Jan 2013, 4:55 pm

It might even have been 4 dollars to the pound back when I lived in Belleville as a kid.
DC Comics were the same price in US/Canadian, then they split the pricing - are they back the same again?

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Post by Haddie-nuff Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:00 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:$300 Canadian? Isn't that about £12?

You are joking of course !!!

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Post by JuliusHMarx Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:02 pm

Haddie-nuff wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:$300 Canadian? Isn't that about £12?

You are joking of course !!!

Always.

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Post by Haddie-nuff Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:03 pm

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Post by JuliusHMarx Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:06 pm

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Post by lags72 Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:12 pm

IMBL - I''ll dip out of this one now, clearly we have diverging opinions on it.

My comments were never really about the end results in themselves, in fact I too would have called the matches in advance in the same way. I mean they were hardly bold or brave predictions, so no bouquets to be handed out.

No, it was that the language adopted (0.5% chance, most predictable match in history (Almagro) guaranteed (during the Wawrinka match), not a prayer (dating back to Delpo at Olympics) - all of which implies to any normal reader that you don't give the opponents any credit for their ability to actually push the higher ranking player or threaten him at any stage. Which in fact they all did.

And hence my surprise/ disappointment that someone who watches the game as much, and who must have seen a fair few gutsy performances/upsets, could be so very quick to dismiss their respective prospects totally (other than a possible 'freak injury' you mention....)

That's all.

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Post by invisiblecoolers Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:15 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:It might even have been 4 dollars to the pound back when I lived in Belleville as a kid.
DC Comics were the same price in US/Canadian, then they split the pricing - are they back the same again?

Nope, coz Canadian dollars are right now higher than USD Very Happy

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Post by invisiblecoolers Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:19 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
Haddie-nuff wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:$300 Canadian? Isn't that about £12?

You are joking of course !!!

Always.

Including this one right laughing

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Post by invisiblecoolers Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:24 pm

lags72 wrote:.

No, it was that the language adopted (0.5% chance, most predictable match in history (Almagro) guaranteed (during the Wawrinka match), not a prayer (dating back to Delpo at Olympics) - all of which implies to any normal reader that you don't give the opponents any credit for their ability to actually push the higher ranking player or threaten him at any stage. Which in fact they all did.

And hence my surprise/ disappointment that someone who watches the game as much, and who must have seen a fair few gutsy performances/upsets, could be so very quick to dismiss their respective prospects totally (other than a possible 'freak injury' you mention....)

That's all.

Can't agree more here Lags, Del Po gets a lot of stick for losing to Chardy, some brainless even called him one-dimensional for life time coz he lost one match to an underdog, this is complete dis respect for Chardy's performance on the given day, whether Del Po one dimensional or not Chardy beat a Top 10 ranked player [former GS champ] with his performance.

Like wise Almagro did give his best, I do know Ferrer would win in the end and even safely bet on him, but never for once blamed Almagro and felt pity on him that he can't close matches which he could have won. In my view the match was of high standards.

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Post by JuliusHMarx Tue 22 Jan 2013, 5:28 pm

invisiblecoolers wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:
Haddie-nuff wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:$300 Canadian? Isn't that about £12?

You are joking of course !!!

Always.

Including this one right laughing

Never

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Post by CaledonianCraig Tue 22 Jan 2013, 6:10 pm

For those wishing to downplay Chardy's toughness lets remember these pertinent facts. He has already beaten three seeded players (one of them Del Potro) to get to this stage and this run will elevate him up amongst the seeded players I would have thought for the next slam as he is currently ranked 36 in the world. Also bear in mind the last time he played Murray he won.
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Post by The Special Juan Tue 22 Jan 2013, 6:44 pm

Yes but that was easily the worst match Murray played last year. Not much disrespect to Chardy intended, but I'll give him a set at most. When it comes to the crunch, Murray's the better player and I think he'll get through in straights, especially if he takes the first set.
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