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Post by t1000advancedprototype Sat 09 Feb 2013, 6:51 pm

First topic message reminder :

Wales always go on a run after a big win...anything's possible now.

Few things that impressed me:

Team spirit after last week.
Leigh Halfpenny and his kicking: Wow
Dan Biggar proving he is class
NO LINEOUTS LOST! What? Ye really!
Last 3 Wales v France games, France haven't scored a try.
Mike Phillips was awesome.

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 11 Feb 2013, 7:58 pm

Teams always try to talk down the possibility of winning the Grand Slam but England are the only team who can so talk will obviously focus on that and with a very poor France side at home next then Italy they realistically can be going to Cardiff 4 from 4.

In contrast to that I honestly thought we would be going into the same game 0 from 4 but we now have that win undermeath us it might give us the confidence but we have two away games.

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 11 Feb 2013, 9:51 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:Teams always try to talk down the possibility of winning the Grand Slam but England are the only team who can so talk will obviously focus on that and with a very poor France side at home next then Italy they realistically can be going to Cardiff 4 from 4.

In contrast to that I honestly thought we would be going into the same game 0 from 4 but we now have that win undermeath us it might give us the confidence but we have two away games.


I dare that you down your prematch drink every time you hear a commentator say "who knows which French team will turn up" before the game.

And if a French team do turn up, the same for "we said, you never know whether the French will turn up or not" after the game. I defy you to end up in Hospital mate.

My nephews were playing a game at the local rugby club, that they found online. Every mention of JW, RWC03 or God by an English pundit/presenter, BOD in reference to him being a "great of the game", Scotland being "tenebrōsus equus" and unfortunately for them every time Jonathan Davies says "Numbers" or "failed to exploit the overlap".

Poor lads were under the table before half time...

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Post by bedfordwelsh Mon 11 Feb 2013, 9:56 pm

Yeah theres one doing the rounds on here and on facebook. Its the old drink 1,2 or 3 fingers etc everytime certain commentators say things or where scarves lol.
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Post by maestegmafia Mon 11 Feb 2013, 10:01 pm

bedfordwelsh wrote:Yeah theres one doing the rounds on here and on facebook. Its the old drink 1,2 or 3 fingers etc everytime certain commentators say things or where scarves lol.

Dangerous stuff. Best to stand back, be mature and use the wife as an excuse to not get involved. At my age my tolerance for serious alcohol is not quite what it once was.

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Post by Big Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:22 am

bedfordwelsh wrote:Teams always try to talk down the possibility of winning the Grand Slam but England are the only team who can so talk will obviously focus on that and with a very poor France side at home next then Italy they realistically can be going to Cardiff 4 from 4.

In contrast to that I honestly thought we would be going into the same game 0 from 4 but we now have that win undermeath us it might give us the confidence but we have two away games.


Assuming Wales have their mojo back properly and the France game isn't a one off I think it will be between them and England for the title. Ireland also in with a shout, if other games go their way.

As an England fan what worries me is that this (i.e. the bit in bold above) is typically when France are at their most dangerous... a lot rides on that game, and it wouldn't surprise me if in typically unpredictable fashion France play superbly. If France win the tournament really is opened up, if they lose then I expect England will be very much in the driving seat. Even losing in Cardiff I'd expect them to get it on points difference.


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Post by Pal Joey Tue 12 Feb 2013, 10:57 am

Totally agree, Alun. Far from over.

However like all great snooker matches it would be best if they closed the roof for this one.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:01 am

I say leave the roof open. Rugby's an outdoor sport. If it rains, it rains for both sides.

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:03 am

Now now Lucky. Please don't get too technical! Smile

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Post by gboycottnut Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:04 am

Wales won't beat a rejuvenated England team this year.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:08 am

Read the question again, Boycs: it's 'can' Wales win, not 'will' they win.

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 12 Feb 2013, 11:08 am

So all bets are off now?

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Post by nobbled Tue 12 Feb 2013, 2:25 pm

Can? Well yes they "can". I "can" win the lottery.
Probably won't mind, but doesn't stop me bunging £2 to Camelot every Friday.
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Post by Liam Tue 12 Feb 2013, 2:33 pm

Lydiate and AWJ returning to the squad is a massive bonus for Wales. Jenkins found a bit of form at the weekend and the line out also went well. There's plenty of positives for Wales. I fancy us against Scotland and Italy away tbh. If we had lost in France, I'd be looking at those games in a completely different light. However, the confidence of a win for the first time in 8 games for me, will see a different Wales side from now until the end of the 6N. Not necessarily game plan wise, but confidence in execution and not worrying about losing.

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Post by gowershowerpower Tue 12 Feb 2013, 2:34 pm

well, looking at it scientifically, we will win the championship. no doubt.

it is obvious that we will beat italy and scotland.

france are going to come out a different animal and beat ireland and england.

wales will then beat england to decide it.

it just won't happen any other way.




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Post by captain carrantuohil Tue 12 Feb 2013, 2:54 pm

Only way it's "over", realistically, is if England beat France comfortably. If that happens, you'd have to be pretty optimistic to think that Italy won't give up a fair few points at Twickers themselves, meaning that England's points differential is likely to be too much for Wales to make up.

Even with a narrow English win over France, Wales+ mojo have an outside chance of sticking enough on Italy and Scotland to make the last game meaningful. If England win by 10 or so, I think that it will be too tall an order.

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Post by gowershowerpower Tue 12 Feb 2013, 2:57 pm

however, as i have just pointed out...france will beat england.

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Post by captain carrantuohil Tue 12 Feb 2013, 2:59 pm

Don't tell me that - tell your bookie, and bring along some of your crispest, folding friends to add extra muscle.

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Post by nobbled Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:00 pm

gowershowerpower wrote:however, as i have just pointed out...france will beat england.

Keep saying it - it's good karma!


For England.
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Post by captain carrantuohil Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:04 pm

Quite so, LP. Last time Wales beat England by more than 10 was the Robert Jones-dominated RWC quarter of '87. Think you're going to have to do a right number on Scotland and Italy to be at the races come the final game if England oblige on Saturday week.


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Post by Liam Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:05 pm

Can't see France beating England at twickers. Not only don't i think they are playing well enough to do so, the mental element is also against them considering they haven't won there in a while.

2011 - England 17-9
2009 - England 34-10
2007 - England 26-18

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Post by thebluesmancometh Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:07 pm

You mean just like Wales hadn't won in Paris for a while?

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Post by nobbled Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:08 pm

Liam wrote:the mental element


France are "the mental element".

Can't rely on them for anything - to hold a national border against a German, play good rugby against Wales, play bad rugby against England - nothing.

An unreliable mental element!
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Post by gowershowerpower Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:11 pm

look, france have played pretty dire for two games on the trot. have you ever known a french team to keep up that record? they are enigmatic and will come out firing. they will be a different team. meanwhile, england will be the same team of no marks who stick to the same boring basic gameplan. they will be undone and found out.

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Post by nobbled Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:13 pm

gowershowerpower wrote:look, france have played pretty dire for two games on the trot. have you ever known a french team to keep up that record? they are enigmatic and will come out firing. they will be a different team. meanwhile, england will be the same team of no marks who stick to the same boring basic gameplan. they will be undone and found out.

Think your on the wrong thread - the Wales VS England bickering thread is elewhere - and be quick - it's nearly full!
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Post by gowershowerpower Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:15 pm

you're

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Post by nobbled Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:17 pm

gowershowerpower wrote:you're

quite right - sorry - you're on the wrong thread.
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Post by gowershowerpower Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:19 pm

'can wales win the championship'

yes. and they will. because france will beat england.

and we will beat england.

correct thread, yes?

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Post by RubyGuby Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:21 pm

gowershowerpower wrote:'can wales win the championship'

yes. and they will. because france will beat england.

and we will beat england.

correct thread, yes?

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Post by gowershowerpower Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:23 pm

Ruby...now now, don't encourage him, i mean me...

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Post by captain carrantuohil Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:24 pm

Y'all make sure you don't go and lose at Murrayfield now, you hear?

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Post by nobbled Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:33 pm

RubyGuby wrote:
gowershowerpower wrote:'can wales win the championship'

yes. and they will. because france will beat england.

and we will beat england.

correct thread, yes?

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I have to respect both of you for confidence. I think the opposite, but no where near as one-eyed
confident as you! Mind you, bet you both had Ireland to win last weekend too Whistle
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Post by RubyGuby Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:43 pm

bet you both had Ireland to win last weekend too

Wrong AGAIN I'm afraid thumbsup

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Post by nobbled Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:50 pm

RubyGuby wrote:bet you both had Ireland to win last weekend too

Wrong AGAIN I'm afraid thumbsup

no worries - used to it. I thought Ireland were going to win...
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Post by RubyGuby Tue 12 Feb 2013, 3:55 pm

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I thought Ireland were going to win....


You would, you even think Engalnd will win the GS

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