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New Zealand v England, Wellington, 2nd Test Thread
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England successfully made a great escape in Dunedin, after being 293 behind in the first innings, leaving the series 0-0 with 2 to play. England will take heart from that, New Zealand probably will as well after bowling England out for 167. Wellington is expected to have more swing than Dunedin, and be more suited to the fast bowlers. The weather looks fine for the first 3 days, it's day 4 and 5 that will likely be interrupted by the weather. Both teams are expected to be unchanged. Starts at 21:30 GMT tonight.
England successfully made a great escape in Dunedin, after being 293 behind in the first innings, leaving the series 0-0 with 2 to play. England will take heart from that, New Zealand probably will as well after bowling England out for 167. Wellington is expected to have more swing than Dunedin, and be more suited to the fast bowlers. The weather looks fine for the first 3 days, it's day 4 and 5 that will likely be interrupted by the weather. Both teams are expected to be unchanged. Starts at 21:30 GMT tonight.
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in a 3 day match this is a waste of time. KP do what you do best mate
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Oh dear, poor start on a flat track Trotty. Application needed.
Roakey.. If the rain doesn't come and then we lose because they threw it away I wouldn't be happy. Sensible play needed.
The weather men haven't always got it right.
Roakey.. If the rain doesn't come and then we lose because they threw it away I wouldn't be happy. Sensible play needed.
The weather men haven't always got it right.
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Re: New Zealand v England, Wellington, 2nd Test Thread
The weather means this will almost certainly be a draw, unless the pitch looks a lot harder to bat on against our bowlers. Bell and KP need to pick up the pace.
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Re: New Zealand v England, Wellington, 2nd Test Thread
Trebbs we have a solid base dude...
time to whack it
time to whack it
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Get past 400 and then whack it I reckon.
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It is a shame about swanny not in this game. But then maybe NZ are setting up the tracks based on no swan!!
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mystiroakey wrote:It is a shame about swanny not in this game. But then maybe NZ are setting up the tracks based on no swan!!
Monty's gonna prove them all wrong
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Awww the poor duck
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silly bell. He needs dropping
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Pieterson survives a chance but Bell out couple of balls later. A real struggle for England this session...
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Will we reach 450-500?
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cant keep kp and root down.
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It's all starting a bit wrong,
I was uncomfortable will all the assumptions that eng would just make 550 without much effort.. Seemed silly with engs recent batting travails. This shows the jitters are still there.
I was uncomfortable will all the assumptions that eng would just make 550 without much effort.. Seemed silly with engs recent batting travails. This shows the jitters are still there.
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There's some movement for the spinners and seamers out there today. Jimmy should have a good day
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This was a good toss to lose.
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trebellbobaggins wrote:This was a good toss to lose.
They discussed it on commentary yesterday about whether McCullum was hesitant to bat first after the 47 all out debacle in South Africa. It must have played a part in the decision. Because it was a perfect batting day
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Really was. It's woken up today.
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Root still the answer?
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Root uprooted. England faltering - third scratchy partnership in a row. Still, at least the match is moving on. England in danger of falling some way short of 400....
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root you muggins...
but all I can say is that - when bell gets to 10 he takes 100 balls to do it!
but all I can say is that - when bell gets to 10 he takes 100 balls to do it!
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Ouch, forget the 550 fantasy tms had yesterday, be lucky to get 400.
Root is a bit of a worry at the mo. needs to get it right,
Root is a bit of a worry at the mo. needs to get it right,
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trebellbobaggins wrote:Ouch, forget the 550 fantasy tms had yesterday, be lucky to get 400.
Root is a bit of a worry at the mo. needs to get it right,
He's a young lad, gonna make mistakes. He's got his head on right, he'll be better for them
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Our current line up is a much weaker batting one that at the last ashes.
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Very scrappy stuff from England atm.
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Makes you glad for yesterday. Just hope NZ aren't up for another 470 performance. We're handing them the initiative at the mo but hopefully the pitch will assist us this time,
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Not to happy about this to be honest.
The pitch looks flat- But to score you need to whack it, which brings up problems. Bell couldnt get out of first gear and then went due to the pressure of not scoring. Englands pace is quicker therefore they wont need to work as hard..
Swann would have done the biz mind..
The pitch looks flat- But to score you need to whack it, which brings up problems. Bell couldnt get out of first gear and then went due to the pressure of not scoring. Englands pace is quicker therefore they wont need to work as hard..
Swann would have done the biz mind..
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Bresnan would have also loved a piece of this.. Southee looks very good on this track
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mystiroakey wrote:Not to happy about this to be honest.
The pitch looks flat- But to score you need to whack it, which brings up problems. Bell couldnt get out of first gear and then went due to the pressure of not scoring. Englands pace is quicker therefore they wont need to work as hard..
Swann would have done the biz mind..
Don't worry Mysti, Prior ain't gonna hang about
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Priors not suited to this sort of stuff.He is not a good odi bat.
NZ are set up to there strengths. They are very good at restricting runs, and can score quick of quicks from the better sides..
NZ are set up to there strengths. They are very good at restricting runs, and can score quick of quicks from the better sides..
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mystiroakey wrote:Priors not suited to this sort of stuff.He is not a good odi bat.
We're not playing ODI's mysti! He's a very good attacking batsman in Tests.
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Three boundaries in last couple of overs before lunch will put England in somewhat better spirits. But certainly NZ's session.
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That was a pretty lame session tbh!
I hope i can stay awake to watch more though.
Yep Prior is a good test bat. But NZ have that medium pace style that is good at restricting scoring. I thought it might pose a problem. Probally totally wrong though.
I hope i can stay awake to watch more though.
Yep Prior is a good test bat. But NZ have that medium pace style that is good at restricting scoring. I thought it might pose a problem. Probally totally wrong though.
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Just back from a Thursday night pub session with a few of the boys and watching highlights on SKY. Bit confused as Gus Fraser appears to have picked up a shedload of wickets!
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guildfordbat wrote:Just back from a Thursday night pub session with a few of the boys and watching highlights on SKY. Bit confused as Gus Fraser appears to have picked up a shedload of wickets!
Few too many of these Guildford
You're imagining things
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Olly - Sarah Taylor is being interviewed now by Nick Knight - definitely too many s. Don't tell me she's playing!
Sobering up a bit, I would guess a poor morning performance from England. I always thought talk of 550 seemed very optimistic.
Also, and I hope you're reading Mysti, by all means listen to the forecast but we should have set out to play the opposition and not what the weather might be in two days' time.
Sobering up a bit, I would guess a poor morning performance from England. I always thought talk of 550 seemed very optimistic.
Also, and I hope you're reading Mysti, by all means listen to the forecast but we should have set out to play the opposition and not what the weather might be in two days' time.
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Oh Kevin!!! With that I'm off to bed!
I hope to awake to a Jimmy haul of wickets with some from Mr Finn and Mr Broad!
I hope to awake to a Jimmy haul of wickets with some from Mr Finn and Mr Broad!
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374-7, Pietersen and Broad now back in the hutch.
400 looks some way off with three number 11s in the line up ....
400 looks some way off with three number 11s in the line up ....
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I'm up!
Tuned back in for a bit, Prior playing beautifully, picking up some very useful runs
Tuned back in for a bit, Prior playing beautifully, picking up some very useful runs
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guildfordbat wrote:374-7, Pietersen and Broad now back in the hutch.
400 looks some way off with three number 11s in the line up ....
Finn must have heard that
After 20 plus , 50 plus and now 24no he is not looking much like a number 11 in NZ...
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Well you talked that up Alfie! Finn goes for 24!!!
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Jimmy obviously wants that nightwatchman job back! First ball, beautiful cover drive for 4!
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Oh bother...now I've jinxed him ! Out for 24 ...
But no matter , partnership was 83 at a good rate , Prior still there , 457/8
...best the game moves on quickly anyway. Can only win if the bowlers do their stuff well , so this score should be OK.
Be nice to get it up close to 500 but I don't want to be greedy...
But no matter , partnership was 83 at a good rate , Prior still there , 457/8
...best the game moves on quickly anyway. Can only win if the bowlers do their stuff well , so this score should be OK.
Be nice to get it up close to 500 but I don't want to be greedy...
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Southee bowls 32 overs, 78-0, very well bowled
Williamson comes on and bowls a couple of tiddlers and gets 2 wickets!
Funny old game
Williamson comes on and bowls a couple of tiddlers and gets 2 wickets!
Funny old game
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Olly wrote:Well you talked that up Alfie! Finn goes for 24!!!
Yeah , sorry , Olly ...but I didn't want to tire him out for bowling
All gone now so 465 it is ...really don't mind that ...if we can't bowl them out well south of that we are unlikely to get a win anyway.
Would have liked Prior to get 100 but well played him anyway
Maybe Monty fancies a bowl , he didn't waste much time with the bat...
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Hmm, those two Broad just picked up really puts England in the driving seat.
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That worked out very well tbh.
I was wondering if the pitch was actually pretty tough to bat on or england were just messing up. There is clearly something there for the bolwers.. and if this game is over in 3- getting 3 wickets of them has given us a shot., But the follow on is a neccesity
I was wondering if the pitch was actually pretty tough to bat on or england were just messing up. There is clearly something there for the bolwers.. and if this game is over in 3- getting 3 wickets of them has given us a shot., But the follow on is a neccesity
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