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Post by welshboii15 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:06 pm

The scarlets IMO have the best young back line in euro
9- knoyle
10- priestland
11- north
12- Williams
13- JD2
14- Phillips
15- Williams

and the likes of jordan williams etc exciting times for my team

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Post by Shifty Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:17 pm

Hmmm, the Ospreys aren't too bad to be honest.

15 Ross Jones
14 Hanno Dirksen
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12 Ashley Beck
11 Eli Walker
10 Dan Biggar
9 Rhys Webb / Tom Habberfield
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:20 pm

OMG, are we going to get any more "<insert name of Welsh club> have the best <insert area of team>"!

I know, I've got one: Bedwas have the best boilerroom in Princ Prem

No more bull than the rest

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Post by welshboii15 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:26 pm

There's all ways one. The scarlets backline is out standing and all welsh not many clubs in Europe can say they have a full welsh/english/irish/French backlines and all apart from 1 have a number of welsh caps and are all really young

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Post by 2ndtimeround Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:29 pm

North is leaving, Phillips cant defend, Fenby has signed to leave.
Not a promising look to the Scarlets back 3 at the mo.

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Post by welshboii15 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:31 pm

And if the scarlets had a better pack with abit more experience they would be competing for more trophies. North has said he wants to stay and Phillips can improve he's still young

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:36 pm

Tovey
Robinson
O Williams
Allen
Robinson
Patchell
L Williams

Thats not too shabby.

Evans
Prydie
Hughes
Roblin
Poole
S Jones
J Evans

Another pretty good attacking backline.

Whilst I would say the Scarlets backline named in the op is pretty good, it isn't streets ahead of what the other regions can offer, and seeing as we are rumoured to be losing possibly up to three of thos lads, with only Steve Shingler coming in, it is believable that we could end up with one of the weaker sets of backs in wales.
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Post by yappysnap Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:38 pm

Care
Clegg
Monye
Turner-Hall
Lowe
Smith
Brown

7 Eng age group players, 4 internatinals, 6 Saxons, 1 Lion, all English, one over 26.

Youngs
Flood
Benjamin
Allen
Tuilagi
Thorpe
Tait

6 England age grade players, 5 internationals, all English, 5 under 26

And let's not start with Sarries, Exeter, Glaws, Bath, Leinster, Munster, Ulster...

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Post by welshboii15 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:40 pm

That's very TRUE I hope to god the scarlets can hold on to all of them but still strengthen with some age and some forwards

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Post by welshboii15 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 9:56 pm

Liam Williams- age 21- 3 caps
JD2- age 24- caps 36
Scot Williams- age 22- 20 caps
Rhys priestland- age 26- 22 caps
Tavis knoyle- age 22- 9 caps
George north- age 20- 31 caps
Kristian phillips- age 22

Apart from one all under 25, all apart from one clearly in the Welsh coaches thoughts so if any team can produce a back line that young that experienced that good please feel free to argue a better case for a young more talented side and I'll eat my hat if at least 2 of them don't tour with the lions

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Post by Guest Mon 25 Mar 2013, 10:34 pm

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:OMG, are we going to get any more "<insert name of Welsh club> have the best <insert area of team>"!

I know, I've got one: Bedwas have the best boilerroom in Princ Prem

No more bull than the rest

Nah, Keys smashed them boxing laughing

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Post by 123456789 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 11:32 pm

9. Matawalu
10. Weir
11. Van de Merwe
12. Dunbar
13. Bennett
14. Maitland
15. Hogg

That's leaving out Pyrgos, Jackson, Horne, Seymour and probably a couple of others, also the chances of the likes of the Scarlets and Glasgow keeping these sorts of sides together long term is very slim, the big wages, beaches and hard ground will come calling and unless there is something forcing them to stay they won't, I think Wales need to bring in a similar rule to England but maybe not as strong because, from what Jim Hamilton said, it would be a choice between your country and future, he claimed that his deal in France was four times what he was paid at Gloucester and would offer him lifetime security financially, as the captain he must be one of Gloucester's higher earners, if I were the WRU I would bring in a rule saying that anyone under 29 playing outside of WAles wouldn't be considered for Wales unfortunately Scotland have no control over where their players play.

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Post by welshboii15 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 11:51 pm

i dont understand the wru they made a profit of 60 million last year what the hell is wrong with bringing in the law you cant leave until 30 and starting more money into the clubs and help with the contracts of the bigger players

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Post by welshboii15 Mon 25 Mar 2013, 11:53 pm

i dont understand the wru they made a profit of 60 million last year what the hell is wrong with bringing in the law you cant leave until 30 and starting more money into the clubs and help with the contracts of the bigger players

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue 26 Mar 2013, 7:05 am

welshboii15 wrote:i dont understand the wru they made a profit of 60 million last year what the hell is wrong with bringing in the law you cant leave until 30 and starting more money into the clubs and help with the contracts of the bigger players

Restraint of trade?

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Tue 26 Mar 2013, 7:43 am

Wasps

Joe Simpson
Tommy Bell
James Bailey
Chris Bell
Eliot Daly
Christian Wade
Jack Wallace

Wouldn't say they were Euro beaters but not too shabby!

Going back to North saying he wants to stay. All players say that don't they?
Until the apparent toothless PRGB get their finger out & broker a deal with the WRU. North won't be the last young international to leave the Regions.

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Post by LondonTiger Tue 26 Mar 2013, 7:48 am

yappysnap wrote:Care
Clegg
Monye
Turner-Hall
Lowe
Smith
Brown

7 Eng age group players, 4 internatinals, 6 Saxons, 1 Lion, all English, one over 26.

Youngs
Flood
Benjamin
Allen
Tuilagi
Thorpe
Tait

6 England age grade players, 5 internationals, all English, 5 under 26

And let's not start with Sarries, Exeter, Glaws, Bath, Leinster, Munster, Ulster...

Hopefully you mean Thompstone Very Happy

Sarries: Spencer, Farrell, Strettle, Barritt, Tomkins, Ashton, Goode
Glaws: Robson, Burns, Sharples, Twelvetrees, Trinder, May, Morgan
Exeter: England U20 backline
Bath: Stringer, Donald........ hmm maybe not Wink

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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue 26 Mar 2013, 8:13 am

The problem with these threads is that the young Scarlets backline, for all it's promise, didn't cover itself in glory in the Heino pool this year, so it's a difficult claim to substantiate that they are "the best"

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Post by yappysnap Tue 26 Mar 2013, 8:24 am

AsLongAsBut100ofUs wrote:The problem with these threads is that the young Scarlets backline, for all it's promise, didn't cover itself in glory in the Heino pool this year, so it's a difficult claim to substantiate that they are "the best"

Perhaps the best when not taking facts or reality in to account?

As shown above nearly every team in every comp can field a young backline of quality players on paper, I'd say only Leinster have proved they can win with a homegrown backline though (maybe Quins).

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Post by yappysnap Tue 26 Mar 2013, 8:26 am

LondonTiger wrote:
yappysnap wrote:Care
Clegg
Monye
Turner-Hall
Lowe
Smith
Brown

7 Eng age group players, 4 internatinals, 6 Saxons, 1 Lion, all English, one over 26.

Youngs
Flood
Benjamin
Allen
Tuilagi
Thorpe
Tait

6 England age grade players, 5 internationals, all English, 5 under 26

And let's not start with Sarries, Exeter, Glaws, Bath, Leinster, Munster, Ulster...

Hopefully you mean Thompstone Very Happy

Sarrie
s: Spencer, Farrell, Strettle, Barritt, Tomkins, Ashton, Goode
Glaws: Robson, Burns, Sharples, Twelvetrees, Trinder, May, Morgan
Exeter: England U20 backline
Bath: Stringer, Donald........ hmm maybe not Wink

You're telling me Thorpe isn't a wing?! I don't know why I get confused with those two...

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Tue 26 Mar 2013, 8:26 am

ASBO - we can blame our pack for letting our backs down. In the past we had no pack, and now we have a pack that just want he ball up their jumpers.
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Post by AsLongAsBut100ofUs Tue 26 Mar 2013, 9:02 am

ScarletSpiderman wrote:ASBO - we can blame our pack for letting our backs down. In the past we had no pack, and now we have a pack that just want he ball up their jumpers.
Agreed, Spidey - but the original contention is helluva hard to prove.

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Post by 2ndtimeround Tue 26 Mar 2013, 9:14 am

welshboii15 wrote:And if the scarlets had a better pack with abit more experience they would be competing for more trophies. North has said he wants to stay and Phillips can improve he's still young

The Scarlets pack is likely to be the main attack for the region next season, its the strongest the front 5 have been both 1st choice and replacements in years. I would expect them to do well against the majority of packs in the Rabo but still think they will struggle against the top packs in the English and French leagues.
The Backline however is likely to have 2 inexperienced 9's in Aled and Cawdor, 10 will be strong with Rhys and Steve Shingler, 1st choice center's look good as long as we hold on to Scott (not certain by any means) but who will be the cover with both Warren and Maule out of contract?, With Fenby gone and North looking like going then the most experienced Wing we have would be Phillips who IMO is nowhere near a regional standard wing as his defence is woefull, there are 3 good young prospect available in Evans, Ford and Aaron Warren but the Scarlets have not yet even succeded in convincing Warren to sign (may have something to do with the way his brother has been left out of the squad), at least we have 2 good options at 15 in Sanjay and Owen.

Not a poor back line overall but hardly among the best in the league.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Tue 26 Mar 2013, 9:24 am

I think you could argue the scarlets have had the best team to leave in the last two seasons

Stodds, Fenby, Lamont, Williams/Maule/Warren (on is going), North, S Jones, Knoyle/G Davies (one is going);

I Thomas, Rees, R Thomas, Day, Reed, Welsh, Timani (is meant to go), Morgan.
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Post by geoff998rugby Tue 26 Mar 2013, 9:40 am

Heaney
Jackson
Allen
Marshall
Olding/Farrell
Gilroy
Nelson

All Ulster born and bred and none over 22

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