Luke Fitzgearld

by GoodinTightSpaces Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:27 pm

First topic message reminder :

Reports coming in the Luke Fitz has signed for Munster today.

Watch this space

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:05 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I don't think there is another set of fans that so ritually over estimates the ability of their players than Irish fans. A phenomenal talent? Give me a break.

Once upon a time....there were two kingdoms. One white and pompous called Ye Olde Engerlond and another, it's arch enemy, painted in blood Devil-red and called Wales.

We're not alone... but we all lived happily ever after.

Tell that to Gerry in Louth and Martin in Londonderry and they'd be crying into their Coco Pops in the morning. They would beg to differ, or send the boys round to convince you otherwise.

Also, Londonderry. There. I said it. I'm not even sorry.

by Gibson Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:06 pm

The Welsh will never be happy, as long as there are Irish refs in this World. Just sayin.

by Gibson Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:10 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:
SecretFly wrote:
Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I don't think there is another set of fans that so ritually over estimates the ability of their players than Irish fans. A phenomenal talent? Give me a break.

Once upon a time....there were two kingdoms. One white and pompous called Ye Olde Engerlond and another, it's arch enemy, painted in blood Devil-red and called Wales.

We're not alone... but we all lived happily ever after.

Tell that to Gerry in Louth and Martin in Londonderry and they'd be crying into their Coco Pops in the morning. They would beg to differ, or send the boys round to convince you otherwise.

Also, Londonderry. There. I said it. I'm not even sorry.

Thats ok too Hook. The rest of the World calls it Derry. The Laahndaahn bit, was a silly joke by the Brits.

As long as it keeps ye happy, that's the main thing.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:11 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:

Also, Londonderry. There. I said it. I'm not even sorry.

I'll see your Londonderry and raise you six Birmingham Aces!!! Ha! ha! Come on, Hook, push over the chips.

by Gibson Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:14 pm

And Dana! What about Dana?

She's your fault she is.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:14 pm

No, No, I'm not playing another round for the road. I'm cashin' in me chips. Never over-extend yourself Wink

Come on, hurry. I'm on my way out.

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:16 pm

SecretFly wrote:
Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:

Also, Londonderry. There. I said it. I'm not even sorry.

I'll see your Londonderry and raise you six Birmingham Aces!!! Ha! ha! Come on, Hook, push over the chips.

Not a patch on the Jackson Five.

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:18 pm

Gibbo isn't Dana from Donegal? Ah, the sweet taste of partition.

by Gibson Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:18 pm

Four Tops man meself.

by Gibson Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:19 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:Gibbo isn't Dana from Donegal? Ah, the sweet taste of partition.

Bhuugger.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:21 pm

In all fairness though (as all good conversationalists say!!)...Dana is a phenomenal talent.

by Gibson Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:23 pm

Dana Rosemary Scallon was born in Laahndahn. Without the Derry bit.

Man, I've learned so much from just talkin to you people.

The one on the end in the 3 Degrees. Possibly a terrorist but a total roide all the same.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:26 pm

A traitor to both sides of the partition....? Well yeah, that's something new to me too. And all the years of ridicule we had to take from wise-cracking English people about...one of their own ....

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:33 pm

No wonder you southerns hate the English. Dana is clearly a case of neo-colonialism in the 20th century. Where Cromwell failed Dana could succeed. Bah gawd, I feel a little bit nationalist now. I looked in the mirror and its confirmed, my eyes are definitely closer together. I guess I better start washing my fruit if I'm really going to fit in.

by SecretFly Tue Mar 26, 2013 6:40 pm

Snowdrops, and Daffodils'
Butterflies and Bees,
all washed in a basin,
and eaten with a nice bottle of Chiantiiiii

(okay so I'm still working on the last line Whistle

)

by Feckless Rogue Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:13 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I guess I better start washing my fruit if I'm really going to fit in.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:38 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:
d) Leinster are in really bad shape for next season. In terms of competing at European level they have no second rows; ageing and average scums halves with the successors a mile off being at the required level; a green and inexperienced, if highly talented 10; if BOD retires no 13s; only Dave Kearney who I don't rate on the wings.

The problem will be the reputation of Schmidt. A good coach for sure but where are the young players he has brought through? He Leinster do not adequately replace these players his stock will fall and his attempt of getting a Super 15 job may be out the window. He has still not ruled himself out of the Ireland job though people rely on his utterances that he didn't want to stay on at Leinster past next season. Conditions now may dictate otherwise. That leaves Leinster potentially without a coach, and someone like Gibbes in such a scenario may join with Schmidt with the Irish side. Problems ahead for Leinster.

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:
BODisGOD wrote: Have you been watching the u20's? Luke Mcgrath looks a phenomenal talent! When a 5'9 scrumhalf is captain, especially at under age level, you know he means business.

Pure and utter hyperbole. I talked about Leinster needing players that can perform at European level. When has McGrath done that or even made serious contributions at Rabo level? I don't think there is another set of fans that so ritually over estimates the ability of their players than Irish fans. A phenomenal talent? Give me a break. He has potential for sure, but to take over from Boss and Reddan next season? A bit of realism wouldn't go amiss.

This one bears repeating

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:
I don't think there is another set of fans that so ritually over estimates the ability of their players than Irish fans.

Obviously never read a single English or Welsh post on this forum. Smile

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I think Leinster need a quality second row as a matter of priority. Cullen looks well past his peak and I'm afraid I am a huge McCarthy sceptic. One tackle in the autumn and suddenly he is a fantastic lock? I don't buy it. I thought he had a very poor Six Nations though no one can doubt his effort and work rate in each match. That said maybe playing in a better side than Connacht might bring him more to the fore and (fingers crossed) a new international coaching ticket might help him excel. If we are going to play a faster brand of rugby we need good footballing forwards who can offload consistently and wisely. A hybrid second row/backrower like McCarthy might be the ticket. I still for the life of me don't understand why Ireland and Leinster for that matter don't try Kevin McLaughlin in that position-alongside Coughlin at Munster he is criminally underrated.

McLaughlin was played in the row a lot last season. He didn't like it too much and reckoned the extra bulk he put on was hampering his natural game at 6

Overall. What a Negative Norbert you are Hooky. Holy Jaysus. Everyone has to be BOD or you're not impressed. You must be some player yourself. Wink

You think Fitzer is muck too. Where does that leave the Ulster team? Have they any decent players?

by LeinsterFan4life Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:41 pm

Cullen is in his feck 'past his peak'. He's playing great rugby this season. Really guiding the youngsters.

I speak for all Leinster fans here when I say I hope he stays on.

by kunu Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:12 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:
BODisGOD wrote: Have you been watching the u20's? Luke Mcgrath looks a phenomenal talent! When a 5'9 scrumhalf is captain, especially at under age level, you know he means business.

Pure and utter hyperbole. I talked about Leinster needing players that can perform at European level. When has McGrath done that or even made serious contributions at Rabo level? I don't think there is another set of fans that so ritually over estimates the ability of their players than Irish fans. A phenomenal talent? Give me a break. We have heard this so many times over the years and I can think of just one 'phenomenal talent' from Ireland that has made it at international and club level. He might just have played his last game in green. BOD was a 'phenomenal talent'- that is the bench mark of turning potential into success. Compare two other 'phenomenal talents' in Earls and Fitzgerald who have been nothing more than perfectly passable internationals. We have our own ex U-20s captain at Ulster called Niall Annett- a good player who I was assured by some fellow nordies would be a supreme talent. Hows that working out for him? Playing well at U-20 level means absolutely nothing bar that you have a bit of potential. McGrath right now is physically weak, an average pass and average decision making. He is no where near being the player that could suddenly be an integral part of a european cup challenging team. He has potential for sure, but to take over from Boss and Reddan next season? A bit of realism wouldn't go amiss.

I agree with BOD here. McGrath looks vg, is hardly physically weak (heavier than Eoin Reddan, and just turned 20 in february, and having played against him myself, I can tell you he's extremely explosive). His decision making is vg, landed a few drop goals in the past 2 tournaments, and mike ruddock wouldn't have handed over the captaincy otherwise. He was easily the best player Ireland had during the 2013 tournament, and as a result was targeted by England.

You never know if a player can perform at HC level until you try him out. Look at Conor Murray's/TOL's rapid rise into the fray. Some players adapt fast. On top of this, Reddan has been quite brutal this year for us, and Isaac Boss is...well...Isaac Boss (good for clermont away, but that's it really). I reckon we'll be grand with McGrath next season

by **Notch** Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:16 pm

Feckless Rogue wrote:
Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:I guess I better start washing my fruit if I'm really going to fit in.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:19 pm

LeinsterFan4life wrote:Cullen is in his feck 'past his peak'. He's playing great rugby this season. Really guiding the youngsters.

I speak for all Leinster fans here when I say I hope he stays on.

He will

by Feckless Rogue Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:26 pm

McGrath sometimes look absolutely class at underage level (but sometimes doesn't). He's obviously got bags of potential. But didn'y Conway outshine Zebo and Gilroy at underage levels? But he hasn't adapted as well to senior rugby. Yet.

So McGrath is just potentially a good player in the future. He's not about to topple Boss and Reddan just yet.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:28 am

Gibson wrote:McGrath can wait and develop. We still have Reddan & Boss. They are proven, international, hardened, wily, experienced, HC winners. Reddser has 4 winners medals. Coincidence? I think not.

But, Hook is right. Potential is just... potential.

Bit of Wednesday morning pedantry.

Redser has only 3 HC Medals.

He joined Wasps just after they won their first.

He left Munster just before they won their first.

He joined Leinster just after they won their first.

So he has 1 for Wasps (07) and 2 for Leinster (10 & 11)

He has missed out on the first victory with all 3 clubs.

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:52 am

Love it Jenny.
He could possibly have had another 2 then! Woah!

by Jenifer McLadyboy Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:16 am

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:Love it Jenny.
He could possibly have had another 2 then! Woah!

Hard to say how his changed movements would have affected things. But if he had waited until 06 to leave Munster and left Wasps in 08

He could have 1 for Munster 1 for Wasps and 3 for Leinster. Making a record 5. The extra 2 years in wasps fecked it up. A year later arriving and a year earlier leaving.......

by Thomond Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:43 am

Luke's agent is a genius. I wouldn't have minded having him down here, but he hasn't played centre in a while and I don't know if he would start on the wing, probably worked out best for everyone in all honesty.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:05 pm

Thomond wrote:Luke's agent is a genius. I wouldn't have minded having him down here, but he hasn't played centre in a while and I don't know if he would start on the wing, probably worked out best for everyone in all honesty.

That's certainly ONE word you could use for him.

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:08 pm

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Thomond wrote:Luke's agent is a genius. I wouldn't have minded having him down here, but he hasn't played centre in a while and I don't know if he would start on the wing, probably worked out best for everyone in all honesty.
That's certainly ONE word you could use for him.

The snake!

by Jenifer McLadyboy Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:25 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Thomond wrote:Luke's agent is a genius. I wouldn't have minded having him down here, but he hasn't played centre in a while and I don't know if he would start on the wing, probably worked out best for everyone in all honesty.
That's certainly ONE word you could use for him.

The snake!

That one is taken by Conrad Smith.

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Wed Mar 27, 2013 2:30 pm

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Thomond wrote:Luke's agent is a genius. I wouldn't have minded having him down here, but he hasn't played centre in a while and I don't know if he would start on the wing, probably worked out best for everyone in all honesty.
That's certainly ONE word you could use for him.

The snake!
That one is taken by Conrad Smith.

Crud

by Mickado Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:09 pm

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Thomond wrote:Luke's agent is a genius. I wouldn't have minded having him down here, but he hasn't played centre in a while and I don't know if he would start on the wing, probably worked out best for everyone in all honesty.
That's certainly ONE word you could use for him.

The snake!
That one is taken by Conrad Smith.

Crud

That's Aaron Cruden...

by pete (buachaill on eirne) Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:10 pm

Mickado wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Thomond wrote:Luke's agent is a genius. I wouldn't have minded having him down here, but he hasn't played centre in a while and I don't know if he would start on the wing, probably worked out best for everyone in all honesty.
That's certainly ONE word you could use for him.

The snake!
That one is taken by Conrad Smith.

Crud

That's Aaron Cruden...

Jaysus lads!.......Voldermort.....?

by Jenifer McLadyboy Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:25 pm

his face is too big.

by Sin é Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:39 pm

Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Overall. What a Negative Norbert you are Hooky. Holy Jaysus. Everyone has to be BOD or you're not impressed. You must be some player yourself.

He was until the Cookies beat the crap out of him on a visit to the Killing Fields. After that they dragged him into the clubhouse and made him sing Sean South several times.

by **rodders** Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:48 pm

Sin é wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Overall. What a Negative Norbert you are Hooky. Holy Jaysus. Everyone has to be BOD or you're not impressed. You must be some player yourself.

He was until the Cookies beat the crap out of him on a visit to the Killing Fields. After that they dragged him into the clubhouse and made him sing Sean South several times.

by Hookisms and Hyperbole Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:01 pm

Sorry to disappoint you- we only sing hymns up here in the King James style while eating unwashed fruit. King James liked the duke of Buckingham's plums supposedly. Personally I like oranges because it is clearly a Protestant fruit.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:15 pm

rodders wrote:
Sin é wrote:
Jenifer McLadyboy wrote:
Overall. What a Negative Norbert you are Hooky. Holy Jaysus. Everyone has to be BOD or you're not impressed. You must be some player yourself.

He was until the Cookies beat the crap out of him on a visit to the Killing Fields. After that they dragged him into the clubhouse and made him sing Sean South several times.

Paul O'Connell showed him his mickey and he ran screaming back to Ballymena.

by Jenifer McLadyboy Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:19 pm

Hookisms and Hyperbole wrote:Sorry to disappoint you- we only sing hymns up here in the King James style while eating unwashed fruit. King James liked the duke of Buckingham's plums supposedly. Personally I like oranges because it is clearly a Protestant fruit.

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