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Derek Chisora - Why is he still relevant???

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:01 pm

What is a Derek Chisora fan all about???.......He's hardly exciting to watch and yet despite losing four out of his last five five fights his return is still heralded........

If you like seeing some poor innocent guy in a club get hammered by the town thug do you like this guy?? If you take pleasure in watching someone's life turn into a car wreck do you like this guy??... If you like Kyle and Springer do you like this guy???

Derek Chisora is still a relevant and lucrative commodity and I don't get it???............


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Post by spencerclarke Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:10 pm

I never understand it either truss. He does seem to get more chances than most. But he surely cant afford many more losses before people lose interest.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:17 pm

I am in absolute agreement with you Truss. I just don't get it.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:21 pm

In fairness he got a good shot off on Vitali which most opponents haven't.

Pity it was at the weigh in..

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Post by Diggers Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:23 pm

Yeah, if he ever was relevant that time has long since passed.

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Post by LivinginItaly Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:23 pm

I think he is probably a bit better than his record appears at a glance. Would rank him as a similar level to fury.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:24 pm

You might have a point...The fact he came in at 6ft and 18 stone probably flattered Fury that night.....

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Post by Diggers Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:36 pm

Most people thought Fury would lose that fight , he won it and it wasn't that close though a decent tear up. Since then Fury has beaten everything in front of him, I think we need to see him lose before saying he's of a similar level to Chisora, I personally think he'd batter Chisora if they fought now. Chisora might beat Price mind you, if he managed to lightly brush his temple...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:39 pm

Thing is 6ft 18 stone is like the muppet Alexander coming in at 6ft 3 ish and 19 stone against Vitali........

Giving yourself no chance....

But you could be right in your assessment...Diggers...

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Post by LivinginItaly Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:45 pm

I think the chisora that turned up to the vitali or haye fight would give fury some problems. Fury might still win, but think the fight would be much closer than the first one. Chisora's biggest problem now is the way his record affects his marketability for future fights.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:46 pm

Chisora gets respect because he fight the best challenges out there. Yes he may lose but at least he is fighting top quality opponents rather than fighting tomato cans like most other boxers do. Boxing fans complain that the best fighters are always ducking each other. At least Chisora is not ducking anyone.

I also think his fights are exciting. The haye and Vitali fights were both entertaining.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:48 pm

Chisora is as good as it gets for us.

He is nuts which means he is entertaining. Boxing needs a good guy, bad guy and a hell raiser like Chisora.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:50 pm

James Quick Tillis fought the best out there too...and lost,.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:51 pm

Personally I think he's got a pretty crowd pleasing style and has shown a greater desire to fight the best than any other active heavyweight.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:51 pm

Geez....... Rolling Eyes

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:56 pm

I have to admit that Chisora at least has some charisma about him. He has made me laugh on a few occassions. Unlike Haye I don't get this sudden feeling that someone is trying to conn or hoodwink me with Chisora.

He wont get far in boxing he just does not have the tools but he has heart. I respect him more then Haye who I just can't stand. I hope good things come Chisora's way, although he has done some crazy stuff he has not resorted to exposing his bare behind on national television like that fame hungry lady of the night David Haye.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 7:58 pm

Bill Hicks made me laugh but I wouldn't want to see him fight..........


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Post by Diggers Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:01 pm

I think Haye try's to be unpleasant to sell fights, I think Chisora is basically just an unpleasant thug.
But then again its not like I actually know either of them but Id probably rather go for a beer with Haye who can at least converse without seeming like a mentalist.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:01 pm

I'd like to see Bill Hicks off his head on angel dust tearing Bush Sr.'s arms off.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:03 pm

I agree Diggers.....Chisora has a mean streak.....

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:06 pm

Diggers wrote:I think Haye try's to be unpleasant to sell fights, I think Chisora is basically just an unpleasant thug.
But then again its not like I actually know either of them but Id probably rather go for a beer with Haye who can at least converse without seeming like a mentalist.

Yeah you go for that beer with Haye and at the end of the night you realise that you brought ALL the drinks. Haye is up his own a**e and TBH his exploits at cruiser intantly forgettable, his heavyweight career so far?....instantly forgetable.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:09 pm

Forgettable.........What about Chisora...Who's only appeal is that of a crazy man..

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Post by Diggers Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:13 pm

I'd probably expect Chisora to shoot me.
I'd like to see how likeable Chisora came across after 2 weeks in the jungle , he'd probably kill someone or eat them.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:14 pm

Chisora doesn't conform......He brings out the rebel in everybody and I can understand that......

I rebel regularly too.......Like kicking over the XBOX everytime Rob beats me..

But I'd imagine you'd be on tenderhooks in his company all night..

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Post by Strongback Sat 30 Mar 2013, 8:46 pm

Chisora is relevant on a domestic level and will give any euro level operator a good fight. That's his level and that's all most people expect. He comes to fight and some people like his eccentric antics.

Not much more to it than that.

I can't say I like much of what I hear about his out of ring behaviour.

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 30 Mar 2013, 9:30 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Bill Hicks made me laugh but I wouldn't want to see him fight..........


Bill Hicks was the greatest comedian/social satirist of his generation - his passing was a great loss to humanity.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 9:34 pm

Evening cast......Hope your well.

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Post by Strongback Sat 30 Mar 2013, 9:37 pm

The love in continues...........all we need now is for Lescargo to show up.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 9:39 pm

You never know your luck.. Cool

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 30 Mar 2013, 9:41 pm

Not bad mate - anything new with you?

Might put a bit of Hicks on later - very good for developing critical thinking.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Sat 30 Mar 2013, 9:43 pm

Loved that skit he did on New kids on the block......

Sadly missed is our Bill........

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 30 Mar 2013, 9:59 pm

He sure is - loved his tearing apart of George Michael and Debbie Gibson as well. One of the funniest men who has ever lived, and I imagine an amazing fella to have a coffee/joint with (Hicks stopped drinking in about 1989 didn't he?).

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Sat 30 Mar 2013, 10:00 pm

"Shake your love"...what love are you shaking Debbie, you're twelve?

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Sat 30 Mar 2013, 10:01 pm

If you lament the loss of Hicks, check out Doug Stanhope. Not as political but just as rant filled

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 30 Mar 2013, 10:06 pm

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:"Shake your love"...what love are you shaking Debbie, you're twelve?

Hilarious stuff - gonna get on YouTube for that after the boxing.

Reminds me to get those Hicks DVDs back from the neighbour I lent them to...

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 30 Mar 2013, 10:07 pm

Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake wrote:If you lament the loss of Hicks, check out Doug Stanhope. Not as political but just as rant filled

Will do - thanks mate.

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Post by John Bloody Wayne Sun 31 Mar 2013, 12:35 am

Doug Stanhope, Deadbeat Hero.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Sun 31 Mar 2013, 2:57 am

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:What is a Derek Chisora fan all about???.......He's hardly exciting to watch and yet despite losing four out of his last five five fights his return is still heralded........

If you like seeing some poor innocent guy in a club get hammered by the town thug do you like this guy?? If you take pleasure in watching someone's life turn into a car wreck do you like this guy??... If you like Kyle and Springer do you like this guy???

Derek Chisora is still a relevant and lucrative commodity and I don't get it???............

I've often wondered the same thing about thee. Kidding. He is relevant because he is interesting out of the ring and not stone cold boring in it. He is reelvant because the HW division is pap

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