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Post by Diggers Sun 14 Apr 2013, 9:53 pm

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True enough, but always think Phil and Els etc should have won more majors, and maybe still will ! Can't see Paddy sneaking another one though.
Id rather have Cabreras career by the way, just seems a much better story and a lot more fun. That said he is meant to be a bit of a grumpy so and so.

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Post by 1GrumpyGolfer Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:48 am

Linebreaker wrote: Yahoo

What a relief. At last! Well done Adam.

Great tournament for Australian golf with Day and Leishman finishing in the top 4 as well.

Definitely Aus-gusta; some great putts from Scott to set the mark and then win the playoff.

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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:48 am

Nice guy Scott wins. Well done. Steve Williams, you da man!

Cabrera now have time to go to Maggies funeral.

Only some excitement over the last few holes. Otherwise it will be remembered for Tigers drop.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:49 am

if westy and rose dont get them illegal putters out soon i will post em one each!!

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Post by Plunky Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:53 am

Nobody ever looked more handsome in that green jacket ! kiss

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:56 am

Plunks,
He's the nicest golfer in the World to follow - you'd be tearing that Green Jacket off him in no time!

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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:58 am

mystiroakey wrote:if westy and rose dont get them illegal putters out soon i will post em one each!!
I'm sure Steve Williams will be happy to shove one up their @rses. PGA Tour: HE'S BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The Masters: Notes from the Ballwasher - Page 3 3845856932

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 1:02 am

could it have been a better event for tiger Yahoo

not that i hate him or anything. But it is kind of ironic isnt it..

Maybe it was all karma

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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 1:05 am

Stevie now has as many majors as Tiger, doesn't he?

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 1:05 am

aye! he does...

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Post by GT350 Mon 15 Apr 2013, 1:52 am

mystiroakey - I guees the rules of golf are just not your strong suit? Very Happy

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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 15 Apr 2013, 8:17 am

Great finish. Excellent winner. Superb sportsmanship from Angel. Good that they failed to contrive to give it to TW. Well done on your latest Major Stevie.
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 8:46 am

yeah if it makes you feel better gt?

did you enjoy the golf?

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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 15 Apr 2013, 8:54 am

Mysti

You see now why it would be a waste of time me betting? Well done on backing the right man!
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 8:59 am

It was a good win ta..

I think we both know anything could have happened at that point(where i was going to split the difference). Its not as if Angel flaked out or anything. He still played just as well as scott !!

But i had this feeling about scott from the off . so sometimes its just better to go with your heart Smile

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Post by Skydriver Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:15 am

Good finish to what was a fairly dull Masters in terms of quality compared to previous editions.

Can't remember seeing Scott so focused (and pumped up at his birdie on 18). He looked invincible. But then, so did Cabrera. I'm glad it finished with such good shots from both, rather than one of them throwing it away.

Interesting how things played out on 13. Both went for the green. Adam's ball entered the hazard but stuck on the bank, Angel's went sploosh. Perhaps Cabrera didn't need to take the risk at that point though?

Don't know about everyone else who falls on the "supporter" side of the fence regarding Westwood, but I thought he played really well and would say his chipping and putting has definitely improved. Having said that, although he holed out well to avoid three-putts, he did by his own admission fail to take the numerous birdie (and one short range eagle) chances. And he seems to have a bad habit of ending up in water hazards at inopportune moments.

Wonder if Lee, Sergio, Luke et al will take comfort or feel more pressure at seeing one candidate for "best player never to win a major" withdraw from that competition?

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Post by super_realist Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:17 am

Thank goodness Snedeker bogied the last. Means I made money on him AND Olesen.

How good does Olesen look by the way. Major winner in waiting I think.

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Post by Skydriver Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:19 am

And he's played his way into an auto invitation for next year which must be a nice feeling. Seems a good lad.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:29 am

super_realist wrote:Thank goodness Snedeker bogied the last. Means I made money on him AND Olesen.

How good does Olesen look by the way. Major winner in waiting I think.

I cant remenber the last major i didnt make on!! I should only bet on them

Oleson is awesome. This tourny he has proved he can play. He hasnt proved he can win or play well when it truely matters. But judging on talent alone- the lad is special

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Post by super_realist Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:31 am

Think last years Open might have been the only one I haven't made on in the last few years. Easy money most of the time.

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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:36 am

Olesen yes. But so far a bit too many 2nd's IMO. He needs to start winning. And now he'll probably take up membership of the PGA Tour. Right move? Headscratch

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:40 am

We are seeing a death of the european tour infront of us..

Everyone is going to the states.. It truely is becoming the Premier leauge of golf in that respect.

will it affect US talent in the long run?

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Post by SmithersJones Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:42 am

Skydriver wrote:

Don't know about everyone else who falls on the "supporter" side of the fence regarding Westwood, but I thought he played really well and would say his chipping and putting has definitely improved. Having said that, although he holed out well to avoid three-putts, he did by his own admission fail to take the numerous birdie (and one short range eagle) chances. And he seems to have a bad habit of ending up in water hazards at inopportune moments.

Wonder if Lee, Sergio, Luke et al will take comfort or feel more pressure at seeing one candidate for "best player never to win a major" withdraw from that competition?

Westwood's short game has definitely improved, especially his holing out from 3-5 feet. That helped him avoid a 3 putt, but too often he lagged makeable 15-20 footers which with a touch more pace would have dropped. I can only assume this was because he's not quite fully confident about the shorter ones, but hopefully he soon will be. If he ever puts together his best ball striking and some solid, aggressive putting he'll be unbeatable.

As to whether seeing Adam win helps or hinders, you'd hope they'll think 'if he can do it, so can I'.
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:46 am

"As to whether seeing Adam win helps or hinders, you'd hope they'll think 'if he can do it, so can I'"

the difference between rose and scott..

the putter!

no disrespect to scott btw- its in the rules, so he can do what he wants.. But i think its time for rose to seriously consider this

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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:50 am

I think Scott should have DQ'ed himself for using the long putter. Whistle

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Post by Pal Joey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 9:58 am

I thought it was some sort of soil testing probe.
Honestly, he looks a bit geriatric with that. He must suffer from severe arthritis.

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Post by super_realist Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:00 am

The tournament got interesting when the rain came on. Augusta greens are a bit of a joke when they are like linoleum covered in Mr Sheen.

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Post by dynamark Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:18 am

Awful lot of putts coming up short with the damp and the players very tentative.westy should really have gone birdie eagle start and then we would have had a show but he is striking the ball quite beautifully.
Great event as usual

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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:40 am

Steve Williams of course taking credit:
“We knew it was a right-to-left putt. He said he thought it was a cup outside, but I told him it broke more than he thought and it was two cups outside the hole.”

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Post by Pal Joey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:43 am

Kiwis are always bloody right.... Whistle

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:56 am

Trivia Question:
Who led The Masters in "scrambling"?

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 10:59 am

Going to guess with LW

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 15 Apr 2013, 11:06 am

LW is correct, mysti, you're on a roll mate! thumbsup

76.7% of the time he got it up and down.

Adam Scott led in gir: 76.4% of the time he hit the green in reg.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 11:10 am

It had to be didnt it!

the 5 footers and below he was rock solid and he didnt hit his usually expetional GIR stats he normally does at Augusta..

I take it scott just pipped out Rose?

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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 11:12 am

Olesen was 2nd in GIR, but took too many putts.
http://www.masters.com/en_US/scores/stats/index.html

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 11:15 am

ok ta rose was equal 3rd, dropped out of top place due to only hitting 50% final round


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Post by Diggers Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:21 pm

mystiroakey wrote:ok ta rose was equal 3rd, dropped out of top place due to only hitting 50% final round


Mysti..re Faldo being meticulous and would never get DQ'd......well he did. He once moved some coral from behind his ball in some tournament, which ne believed was allowed which it was under European Tour rules.....unfortunately he forgot the tournament was ran under Asian tour rules so he was kicked out with 6 holes to go when he was leading.
So even slick Nick has fallen foul of the rules before it would seem.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:22 pm

and you can bet your life that he didnt cry to the commitee to get kept in the tounry Smile

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Post by Diggers Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:24 pm

I bet he wasnt happy though. Anyway I only mention it as it was in my paper this morning, I didnt spend my time researching it or anything. Cool

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Apr 2013, 12:45 pm

haha.. dont lie you been digging up dirt! or coral

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Post by Lairdy Mon 15 Apr 2013, 1:38 pm

Fairly drab week shrowded in controversy was brightened up by that last hour on Sunday. Was worth the wait just to see the normally reserved Scott go bonkers on the 18th green! Then it was all matched by the drama and quality of the playoff. We had Cabrera's post shot reactions where we didn't know if he'd sclaffed or flushed it, only to be presented with the sight of the ball landing right where his stare demanded it. All topped off with some major redemption from Scott. Rightfully earned. Loved it, loved it, loved it.

OK Billy you just got away with that this year. Your thanks to Adam and Angel please.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 15 Apr 2013, 1:52 pm

Well said, Lairdy, my sentiments exactly clap Ale

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Post by Roller_Coaster Mon 15 Apr 2013, 1:53 pm

I simply loved it. My favourite weekend of the golf watching year every year. I don't think any of it was dull or drab. The final round was engrossing and the focus on the protagonists was just about right. Interspersed with the rise and fall of Langer, Sparkling scoring of Olesen, LW's unlucky round on the greens, the "can he can't he do it" play of Woods.

Wish ANGC just gave the host broadcasting rights to the BBC for the whole shabang along with free reign over coverage.


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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 1:59 pm

"free rain over coverage"?

Would be a good idea actually! Made it all more interesting.

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Post by kwinigolfer Mon 15 Apr 2013, 2:00 pm

Roller,
You're probably right as CBS showed us nothing of Westwood except his second shots and ensuing putts on #2 and #7, plus his flubbed chip on #9 - not his up and down of course. And showed very little of Olesen except two or three out of context putts.
CBS get worse and worse the more commentators they have, and Jim Nantz is unbearable sucking up to everything "Masters", not questioning a thing.

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Post by Guest Mon 15 Apr 2013, 3:18 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
the difference between rose and scott..

the putter!

no disrespect to scott btw- its in the rules, so he can do what he wants.. But i think its time for rose to seriously consider this

100% agree with this. There is no better player tee to green than Rose at the moment IMHO, but he putts about as well as me and I play off 12 Rolling Eyes

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Post by pedro Mon 15 Apr 2013, 3:27 pm

blisteringblue, do you use the long putter then..?? Run

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Post by Skydriver Mon 15 Apr 2013, 3:41 pm

I would say that Rose is a streaky (rather than outright poor) putter.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Apr 2013, 3:49 pm

What is this fuss over the long putter and the claw grip?

I'm a casual watcher, I don't really understand it
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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 15 Apr 2013, 4:10 pm

Claw grip is ok...just weird!

Long putters themselves are fine but it's way they're used. Most anchor them in two places - their hands and either chest/belly. Most people think this stinks as clubs, all of them, are meant to be swung by being held in the hands i.e. a single anchor point. Most people also think it removes a lot of the hand/arm action required in a 'normal' putting style and therefore removes a lot of the potential sources of messing up.
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Post by navyblueshorts Mon 15 Apr 2013, 4:11 pm

Actually, I have no idea if it's 'most' people. I'm biased as I think the way they're used should be outlawed!
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