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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:13 am

In the NH, you celebrate Rememberance Day in November. In the Antipodes the day of reflection is April 25th. League has a test around this date between the two countries. Union needs to do something as well to honor this day. We wear poppies usually for the November tests but I'd like to see a match between NZ and Australia on ANZAC day.

However not another test between Nz and Oz. Rather a Junior side or an age group side to represent the youth who owe their debt of gratitude to those who served in the World Wars.

I'm sure these guys are playing but other than the age group World Cup I don't think we get to see enough televised age group games. It'd be nice to see the upcoming talent in more high profile matches. Even more so with the demise of the baby blacks.

Are there any age group matches televised in the SH season?

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Post by SecretFly Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:29 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:In the NH, you celebrate Rememberance Day in November. In the Antipodes the day of reflection is April 25th. League has a test around this date between the two countries. Union needs to do something as well to honor this day. We wear poppies usually for the November tests but I'd like to see a match between NZ and Australia on ANZAC day.

However not another test between Nz and Oz. Rather a Junior side or an age group side to represent the youth who owe their debt of gratitude to those who served in the World Wars.

I'm sure these guys are playing but other than the age group World Cup I don't think we get to see enough televised age group games. It'd be nice to see the upcoming talent in more high profile matches. Even more so with the demise of the baby blacks.

Are there any age group matches televised in the SH season?

Wouldn't like to see a day when traditionally New Zealanders and Australians stand side by side with a collective memory of doing so in World Wars become a seasonal grudge match though if one side kept winning (even age group) and the other kept losing. I think even a 'fun' game might develop a history and spoil the sense of oneness on that day. But I'm an outsider, that's only an opinion looking in.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Mon Apr 29, 2013 10:50 am

We always lose the league but there isn't any resentment in that from the nz side as we recognize the Aissies are better and the Kiwis always tend to do better in tournaments rather than one off games because of the limited preparation.

I know where you're coming from Fly but I think sport has defined both our nations in a similar way to Galipolli forging the idea of separate nations. Having some event coming together as a recognition of that seems appropriate.

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Post by Taylorman Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:18 am

kiakahaaotearoa wrote:We always lose the league but there isn't any resentment in that from the nz side as we recognize the Aissies are better and the Kiwis always tend to do better in tournaments rather than one off games because of the limited preparation.

I know where you're coming from Fly but I think sport has defined both our nations in a similar way to Galipolli forging the idea of separate nations. Having some event coming together as a recognition of that seems appropriate.

Don't forget we're still world champs kia, even if it was a one off...albeit a huge one...defence this year in Manchester hopefully!

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Mon Apr 29, 2013 11:26 am

Dont you worry mate. Had not forgotten. Like I said we do well in the tournaments.

You'd know better than me Tman. Do they televise age group footy or how many games they play on a year? Might be a way to give a fresh look to trans Tasman tests as the bledisloe has lost a lot of the magic. Too many games.

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Post by dallym Mon Apr 29, 2013 7:10 pm

does it need to be an international? Can't we schedule a game or two on the day (Blues V Brumbies? Waratahs are a no-no as the Easts/Dragons NRL match will be at the SFS) or have the closest round all NZ V Aus teams, with the country with the most wins getting a trophy?

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Post by doctor_grey Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:54 pm

Coincidentally this is the time of year we have the traditional Army-Navy match. This year with a record 72,000 at Twickenham.

Why not a combined services match between Aus and NZ? Would recognise the military bond dating back to Gallipoli, whilst still having friendly competition between the nations?

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:05 am

Nice ideas dally and doc. Doesn't take much to organise something. 72 000 is a great turnout!

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:54 am

So April 25th is ANZAC day. I didn't know that.

That was my dad's birthday. So I won't easily forget it.

I'll add it to November 11th as a date to remember to quietly honour the dead conscripts and innocent citizens of all nations in futile and religious/political/economically-motivated wars

So much more convincing than the self-styled 'heroes' of professional standing armies.

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Post by doctor_grey Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:52 am

There is nothing self-styled about today's armed forces. These mostly young people are equally brave and committed as those from days gone by.

What we lack are the great causes to fight for.....

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Tue Apr 30, 2013 6:06 am

Nothing much heroic about signing up either doc.

Still I'm sure that the US military-industrial complex will soon dream up another where the heroes of both sides will be fully engaged.


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