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PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
1).What a week! We learned the importance of being Ernst, the legacy of Linda Watson's driver, and saw a weekend when the Island 17th green at TPC was truly an island.
2).Ernst first, and a salutary reminder that a golfer making his PGA Tour debut, as Derek Ernst did, with a 6-under-par round of 65 at last year's Fry's.com event, is well worth watching. He came straight through the final old-style Q-School which is yet another example that not all golfers who earn their PGA Tour cards via Q-School are ill-equipped to handle the rigours of the Tour.
3).And Fred Couples of course is another who turned pro on a whim, borrowed enough money to enter a mini-Tour event, cashed a cheque for $1,800.00 and hot-footed it to Q-School where he earned his card. The rest is history and a deserved place in the World Golf Hall Of Fame where he told the story of lifting Tom Watson's wife's driver from Watson's garage and using it during his early Tour career.
A characteristic "aw shucks" speech from Freddie on Monday night as he was inducted into the WGHOF; interesting the stories told about how much Lee Trevino meant to his career and very emotional as he left the stage sobbing uncontrollably.
4).Apart from Derek Ernst, Quail Hollow also saw a return to form for Robert Karlsson and Ross Fisher, both of whom earned "higher spots" in the "rookie" money list as the second reshuffle was announced.
Life on Tour is fickle though and both Fish and Karlsson get this week off and will probably be on the shelf for all but a couple of the next six weeks as we enter the season of invitationals, Players and US Open. The top ten free pass for the next full-field event will get them in to the Byron Nelson which they'd get into anyway. Then, unless they receive an invitation, they'll miss Colonial and the Memorial, play Memphis (scene of Karlsson play-off losses in 2010 and 2011) hopefully and only get a trip to Merion if they qualify. No-one said this would be easy.
And kudos to David Lynn, not just for his terrific performance last week but a great "rookie" season. He says he won't be back in the States until the PGA Championship but hopefully common sense will persuade him to take his place at Merion and play the Bridgestone (assuming he stays in the Top 50).
5).After noting last week that Justin Rose led the field in greens in regulation at New Orleans, Rory McIlroy led the stat at Quail Hollow, only to finish close to the bottom of the all-important "strokes gained putting" stat.
But Rory now leads the "All Around" ranking of PGA Tour players and the leaders are quite reflective of the season so far - in order:
McIlroy, Woods, Rose, Sneds, Horschel, Henley, Stads, Hoffman, Walker, Jason Day, Kirk.
6).Ernie Els continued his globe-trotting with a successful-ish trip to Indonesia, hardly the ideal preparation for a Players tournament where he has seldom contended. But perhaps he nails the status of The Players in the minds of most international players when he blogs the Championship "is about as big as it gets (on the PGA Tour) outside of a major or WGC event".
7).The magic sponge has apparently worked wonders on almost a dozen players who opted out of last week's Wells Fargo event, and Dustin Johnson (hope security is up to snuff for him), Crane, Goosen, Jacobson and Poulter, to name a few, will return to action at Pete Dye's most famous course, if not his best. And Vijay returns after bolting from Charlotte at the last minute to consult his lawyers.
8).I like 17/18th's of the course, but consider the 17th to be among the very worst holes in Championship golf. But, of course, it's the one everyone writes about so I will too, with a few stat's from pgatour.com:
~11% of tee shots on #17 find the drink.
~Robert Allenby has played #17 36 times since last taking a bath. Rollins (30) and Singh (29) also have impressive runs since splashdown.
~Of those playing this week, Bob Estes and Baddeley have hit eight balls in to the water over the past ten years, Mickelson has drowned 7. (Boring Bob Tway has nine but thankfully he's on the Champions Tour now.)
~Paul Azinger is the only player in the history of the Players to birdie #17 in all four rounds (in 1987).
~The Most Interesting Man in the World has the last hole-in-one here, in 2002
9).Americans dominate the list of winners at "TPC" but, since Sandy Lyle broke through 26 years ago, "Internationals" have more than held their own with victories from Elkington (2), Price, Norman, Perks, Scott, Ames, Garcia, Stenson, Clark and KJ Choi. Europeans have contended regularly, with runners up finishes from Faldo, Langer (2), newly minted WGHOF'er Montgomerie, Harrington (2), Donald, Poulter and Martin Laird. Brian Davis has played well here, Westwood should arguably have beaten Clark in 2010, and McDowell led until going completely haywire in 2012, while Jacobson, Kaymer and Pettersson have finished well without really contending. Sergio is leading money-winner here and I'd expect he, Stenson, Donald (3 top 6's these past 8 years), Poulter, McDowell and Westwood all to enjoy good weeks.
10).I really can't find good value among the Americans and would think a half-crown each way investment on long shots would give far better value than the media favourites. My ten bob will go on Chris Stroud and David Toms.
This is a compelling tournament to watch on a course that rewards precision and penalises mistakes more than most. The weather should mostly be fine (chance of Sunday showers, and moderate breezes the only flies in the ointment) after last weekend's deluge which saw much of the course submerged.
Power is a virtue only if you hit the ball straight, but decent ball-striking and a magical short game will be rewarded. Think an in-form Snedeker. But Snedeker is not in great form and perhaps another International streak will begin!
2).Ernst first, and a salutary reminder that a golfer making his PGA Tour debut, as Derek Ernst did, with a 6-under-par round of 65 at last year's Fry's.com event, is well worth watching. He came straight through the final old-style Q-School which is yet another example that not all golfers who earn their PGA Tour cards via Q-School are ill-equipped to handle the rigours of the Tour.
3).And Fred Couples of course is another who turned pro on a whim, borrowed enough money to enter a mini-Tour event, cashed a cheque for $1,800.00 and hot-footed it to Q-School where he earned his card. The rest is history and a deserved place in the World Golf Hall Of Fame where he told the story of lifting Tom Watson's wife's driver from Watson's garage and using it during his early Tour career.
A characteristic "aw shucks" speech from Freddie on Monday night as he was inducted into the WGHOF; interesting the stories told about how much Lee Trevino meant to his career and very emotional as he left the stage sobbing uncontrollably.
4).Apart from Derek Ernst, Quail Hollow also saw a return to form for Robert Karlsson and Ross Fisher, both of whom earned "higher spots" in the "rookie" money list as the second reshuffle was announced.
Life on Tour is fickle though and both Fish and Karlsson get this week off and will probably be on the shelf for all but a couple of the next six weeks as we enter the season of invitationals, Players and US Open. The top ten free pass for the next full-field event will get them in to the Byron Nelson which they'd get into anyway. Then, unless they receive an invitation, they'll miss Colonial and the Memorial, play Memphis (scene of Karlsson play-off losses in 2010 and 2011) hopefully and only get a trip to Merion if they qualify. No-one said this would be easy.
And kudos to David Lynn, not just for his terrific performance last week but a great "rookie" season. He says he won't be back in the States until the PGA Championship but hopefully common sense will persuade him to take his place at Merion and play the Bridgestone (assuming he stays in the Top 50).
5).After noting last week that Justin Rose led the field in greens in regulation at New Orleans, Rory McIlroy led the stat at Quail Hollow, only to finish close to the bottom of the all-important "strokes gained putting" stat.
But Rory now leads the "All Around" ranking of PGA Tour players and the leaders are quite reflective of the season so far - in order:
McIlroy, Woods, Rose, Sneds, Horschel, Henley, Stads, Hoffman, Walker, Jason Day, Kirk.
6).Ernie Els continued his globe-trotting with a successful-ish trip to Indonesia, hardly the ideal preparation for a Players tournament where he has seldom contended. But perhaps he nails the status of The Players in the minds of most international players when he blogs the Championship "is about as big as it gets (on the PGA Tour) outside of a major or WGC event".
7).The magic sponge has apparently worked wonders on almost a dozen players who opted out of last week's Wells Fargo event, and Dustin Johnson (hope security is up to snuff for him), Crane, Goosen, Jacobson and Poulter, to name a few, will return to action at Pete Dye's most famous course, if not his best. And Vijay returns after bolting from Charlotte at the last minute to consult his lawyers.
8).I like 17/18th's of the course, but consider the 17th to be among the very worst holes in Championship golf. But, of course, it's the one everyone writes about so I will too, with a few stat's from pgatour.com:
~11% of tee shots on #17 find the drink.
~Robert Allenby has played #17 36 times since last taking a bath. Rollins (30) and Singh (29) also have impressive runs since splashdown.
~Of those playing this week, Bob Estes and Baddeley have hit eight balls in to the water over the past ten years, Mickelson has drowned 7. (Boring Bob Tway has nine but thankfully he's on the Champions Tour now.)
~Paul Azinger is the only player in the history of the Players to birdie #17 in all four rounds (in 1987).
~The Most Interesting Man in the World has the last hole-in-one here, in 2002
9).Americans dominate the list of winners at "TPC" but, since Sandy Lyle broke through 26 years ago, "Internationals" have more than held their own with victories from Elkington (2), Price, Norman, Perks, Scott, Ames, Garcia, Stenson, Clark and KJ Choi. Europeans have contended regularly, with runners up finishes from Faldo, Langer (2), newly minted WGHOF'er Montgomerie, Harrington (2), Donald, Poulter and Martin Laird. Brian Davis has played well here, Westwood should arguably have beaten Clark in 2010, and McDowell led until going completely haywire in 2012, while Jacobson, Kaymer and Pettersson have finished well without really contending. Sergio is leading money-winner here and I'd expect he, Stenson, Donald (3 top 6's these past 8 years), Poulter, McDowell and Westwood all to enjoy good weeks.
10).I really can't find good value among the Americans and would think a half-crown each way investment on long shots would give far better value than the media favourites. My ten bob will go on Chris Stroud and David Toms.
This is a compelling tournament to watch on a course that rewards precision and penalises mistakes more than most. The weather should mostly be fine (chance of Sunday showers, and moderate breezes the only flies in the ointment) after last weekend's deluge which saw much of the course submerged.
Power is a virtue only if you hit the ball straight, but decent ball-striking and a magical short game will be rewarded. Think an in-form Snedeker. But Snedeker is not in great form and perhaps another International streak will begin!
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
I think Mickelson and Watney are reasonable (US) considerations for this week. Both in form and have some course form. Watney has a run of cuts made and T4 in the last few years. Mickelson has won here before and when either of them putt well they have all the tools to win. What is the story with DJ and security?
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
Yes, depends which Phil turns up of course.
And which putter Watney brings to the show.
Dustin and Zach Johnson withdrew from the ET's South Korea event over concerns regarding the North Korea threat last month (or concerns about their respective appearance fees as a US media cynic suggested).
And which putter Watney brings to the show.
Dustin and Zach Johnson withdrew from the ET's South Korea event over concerns regarding the North Korea threat last month (or concerns about their respective appearance fees as a US media cynic suggested).
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
The Trevino reference is interesting. Now I come to think of it, Couples swing reminds me of Trevino. Couples is more elegant, he's taller and doesn't have the one-liners but otherwise....kwinigolfer wrote:...3).And Fred Couples of course is another who turned pro on a whim, borrowed enough money to enter a mini-Tour event, cashed a cheque for $1,800.00 and hot-footed it to Q-School where he earned his card. The rest is history and a deserved place in the World Golf Hall Of Fame where he told the story of lifting Tom Watson's wife's driver from Watson's garage and using it during his early Tour career.
A characteristic "aw shucks" speech from Freddie on Monday night as he was inducted into the WGHOF; interesting the stories told about how much Lee Trevino meant to his career and very emotional as he left the stage sobbing uncontrollably....
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"And Vijay returns after bolting from Charlotte at the last minute to consult his lawyers. "
Just heard that he's suing the PGAT for their handling of the deer antler story and the effect on his reputation. I'm not sure that he's right to do this as from what I understand they were warned about it a couple of years ago but I do agree with the sentiment that this has been very badly handled and they really need to sort out their drugs policy/procedures.
Kwini, Also curious about your title with regard to "no longer 5th major." Personally think trying to make it the 5th major is a joke but wondering whether you have seen that they have given up on this idea?
Just heard that he's suing the PGAT for their handling of the deer antler story and the effect on his reputation. I'm not sure that he's right to do this as from what I understand they were warned about it a couple of years ago but I do agree with the sentiment that this has been very badly handled and they really need to sort out their drugs policy/procedures.
Kwini, Also curious about your title with regard to "no longer 5th major." Personally think trying to make it the 5th major is a joke but wondering whether you have seen that they have given up on this idea?
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
twoeightnine,
It was just a lame way of introducing Ernie Els' blog comment that it was the PGA Tour's best after the majors and WGC's. Sure that's how international players see it, though perhaps not most Americans.
Sandy Lyle's response 26 years ago is still the best riposte I've heard about fifth major credentials.
It was just a lame way of introducing Ernie Els' blog comment that it was the PGA Tour's best after the majors and WGC's. Sure that's how international players see it, though perhaps not most Americans.
Sandy Lyle's response 26 years ago is still the best riposte I've heard about fifth major credentials.
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Had to look up the quote about 125 years. Have to agree but I add that one of the big things about a major is that there's only 4 a year so don't dilute and we don't need another in America.
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A shock to me that Vijay is suing the PGA. From the outside it appears they were looking after his interests and the final decision went in his favour. A lot more must have been happening behind the scenes I guess.
Vijay is taking a risk going for the high moral ground. He has a skeleton that he should keep in the cupboard and he can't need the money. From what is in the public arena he is the one to blame for not checking the content of supliment.
A huge PR mess for the PGA.
Vijay is taking a risk going for the high moral ground. He has a skeleton that he should keep in the cupboard and he can't need the money. From what is in the public arena he is the one to blame for not checking the content of supliment.
A huge PR mess for the PGA.
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
Some good quips on golfchannel.com about Vijay:
Randall Mell: "Vijay Singh is suing to reclaim his reputation. Begs the question of what reputation he is specifically seeking to reclaim."
Matt Ginella: "If Vijay wins, he loses. If Vijay loses, he loses. For a guy who's lost, he's got nothing to lose."
John Daly (yes, that John Daly): "VJ don't do this horrible advice you got off take it from me not worth it." Daly's grammar.
Scottie spot on about the mess for the PGA, but a self-inflicted mess for Vijay as well. Plenty of good will being flushed down the drain.
Randall Mell: "Vijay Singh is suing to reclaim his reputation. Begs the question of what reputation he is specifically seeking to reclaim."
Matt Ginella: "If Vijay wins, he loses. If Vijay loses, he loses. For a guy who's lost, he's got nothing to lose."
John Daly (yes, that John Daly): "VJ don't do this horrible advice you got off take it from me not worth it." Daly's grammar.
Scottie spot on about the mess for the PGA, but a self-inflicted mess for Vijay as well. Plenty of good will being flushed down the drain.
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Come on Paddy, four rounds this week would be a start!!!!
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Got Lucas Glover at 100/1 each way!
His wife is due to give birth, but if their kid could wait until Monday I would be fine with that!
His wife is due to give birth, but if their kid could wait until Monday I would be fine with that!
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The golf channel has managed to put together one of the greatest satire sketches in a long time. The ran a piece on Jeff Klauk, whose career has been derailed by epilepsy, which is of course a terrible thing to happen to anyone.
But I am sure we have all watched US tv and how they always over play tugging at our emotions. Well, in the piece about Klauk - whose father was the head greenkeeper at sawgrass - the ratcheted up the emotional music just as he was describing the greatest tragedy caused by his epilepsy....... he couldn't drive anymore. And therefore he was unable to watch his kids play sport or actually leave the house.
What a cutting observation the golf channel has made about the lazy, polluting, gormless american nation. No car equals no life in the USA.
But I am sure we have all watched US tv and how they always over play tugging at our emotions. Well, in the piece about Klauk - whose father was the head greenkeeper at sawgrass - the ratcheted up the emotional music just as he was describing the greatest tragedy caused by his epilepsy....... he couldn't drive anymore. And therefore he was unable to watch his kids play sport or actually leave the house.
What a cutting observation the golf channel has made about the lazy, polluting, gormless american nation. No car equals no life in the USA.
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This tournament usually throws up a fair deal of excitement and tension, so I'm looking forward to it.
... you'd have thought a Scot would be the last person who would want national stereotypes bandied aboutlazy, polluting, gormless american nation
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
It seems the PGA Tour sits are showing featured group in the morning and afternoon....good stuff. As well as the 17th!
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No Jeff Klauk this week (don't really see you can build a national stereotype on a medical problem that required brain surgery), but it's "Go Time" at TPC, apparently under ideal scoring conditions.
Franny Molinari and Peter Hanson just about to leave the stalls on #10. McDowell the first away from GB&I at 8.18 a.m.
Franny Molinari and Peter Hanson just about to leave the stalls on #10. McDowell the first away from GB&I at 8.18 a.m.
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It wasn't so much the brain surgery, but rather a TV show that wanted the audiences heart to bleed about someone not being able to drive. As if access to a car is somehow crucial to life its self.
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Mac, Yanks don't walk anywhere and public transport is rubbish.
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Super -- How can I put this ... you're wrong.
I'm a Yank.
I walk lots of places.
In fact, every round of golf. Public transpiration in suburban Philadelphia pretty good. For the US Open, I'll be taking public transportation to Haverford Station and then walking to the event.
But, there are plenty of places public transportation can be improved in these United States. And Canada. And other countries. No denying that.
I can also state with certainty that I'll be walking through the rough to find some errant shots next week in the bonnie Highlands of Scotland!
I'm a Yank.
I walk lots of places.
In fact, every round of golf. Public transpiration in suburban Philadelphia pretty good. For the US Open, I'll be taking public transportation to Haverford Station and then walking to the event.
But, there are plenty of places public transportation can be improved in these United States. And Canada. And other countries. No denying that.
I can also state with certainty that I'll be walking through the rough to find some errant shots next week in the bonnie Highlands of Scotland!
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Fair enough, I just know from people who live there or in certain places that they get funny looks if they are seen "out for a walk" or walking from A to B instead of getting in their car.
Where you playing in the Highlands?
Where you playing in the Highlands?
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Anyone ever read Bill Bryson's "A walk in the woods", he makes some pretty funny/astute observations about americans attitude to walking?
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Dangerous ground there Mac,
He makes some pretty funny/astute observations about most things British as well!
What's wrong with Molinari this year?
He makes some pretty funny/astute observations about most things British as well!
What's wrong with Molinari this year?
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GolfWorld have Vijay teeing off at 2.00 p.m. with Donner and Blitzen.
Not a bad description of Henry and Garrigus, come to think of it.
Not a bad description of Henry and Garrigus, come to think of it.
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Stallings all set for a 54
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Kwini
I find Molinari is overrated tbh. Poor putter and doesn't hit it long enough tbh.
I find Molinari is overrated tbh. Poor putter and doesn't hit it long enough tbh.
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This course should be up Molinari's street though - usually fairly straight off the tee and a fine iron player - horrible short putter though. Terrible start for him, two doubles already.
Stallings still going like a train - but trains can hit buffers in a hurry!
Stallings still going like a train - but trains can hit buffers in a hurry!
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Franny may be overrated now relative to his ranks, but I didn't think he was overrated when he was playing well. Had some back issues this year, but I think it's more than that that's wrong with him this year. Needs to find an answer soon or he'll start dropping much faster...
Shouldn't look at Molinari now anyway, should've follwed Hanson's first 9 holes, looks like a lot of fun. Better than expected start from Rory so far...
BTW, great read, kwini
Shouldn't look at Molinari now anyway, should've follwed Hanson's first 9 holes, looks like a lot of fun. Better than expected start from Rory so far...
BTW, great read, kwini
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Not fun for Hanson though.
Thanks pd
Some surprising names up there early:
Kokrak, Mahan, Stallings, Bradley.
Thanks pd
Some surprising names up there early:
Kokrak, Mahan, Stallings, Bradley.
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Looks like Rory's rediscovered his putting stroke.
RORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RORS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He certainly did... 5-under but still 2-behind. There's something else going on here, those scores are far too low for this course. Something to do with the softer ground...?
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Must be, though some horror stories out there also.
Would expect the course to dry out a touch this afternoon - more distance off the tee (but in which direction?) but tougher around the greens.
Casey Wittenberg clearly warming up for Merion . . . .
Would expect the course to dry out a touch this afternoon - more distance off the tee (but in which direction?) but tougher around the greens.
Casey Wittenberg clearly warming up for Merion . . . .
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Super - Royal Dornoch, Golspie, Brora.
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
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Lucky boy. You've played Dornoch before though right?
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Never ... a bucket list course for me, some of my UK friends tell me it tops their list in all of Scotland (high praise indeed).
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Superb start from Castro
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SR, Dornoch is certainly in my top 3.
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Roberto Castro ???????
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Castro is on fire...
Just looked at some of his shot information on Shot Tracker..
Hole 14 - 180 yards to 5 ft
Hole 17 - 124 Yards to 19 in
Hole 18 - 193 yards to 23 in
Hole 2 - 225 Yards to 4ft (for eagle!)
Hole 4 123 Yards to 21 in
Hole 6 - 107 Yards to 18 in
Clearly needed to putt well to put together his score
Just looked at some of his shot information on Shot Tracker..
Hole 14 - 180 yards to 5 ft
Hole 17 - 124 Yards to 19 in
Hole 18 - 193 yards to 23 in
Hole 2 - 225 Yards to 4ft (for eagle!)
Hole 4 123 Yards to 21 in
Hole 6 - 107 Yards to 18 in
Clearly needed to putt well to put together his score
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
The US media seem to find Robbie Castro the Tour's most amusing Twitterer.
They've seldom been especially complimentary about his golf. Until now presumably. Looks like he's striping it as his putting stat's aren't that sensational.
They've seldom been especially complimentary about his golf. Until now presumably. Looks like he's striping it as his putting stat's aren't that sensational.
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
McIlroy and Stricker would have had a pretty interesting match play game - both 6 under through 12 and every hole would have been halved.
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
And then there's Peter Hanson's round:
1 eagle
7 birdies
8 pars
1 bogey
1 double bogey
1 quad bogey
Peter Hanson is a player!
1 eagle
7 birdies
8 pars
1 bogey
1 double bogey
1 quad bogey
Peter Hanson is a player!
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
Tilghman reported that Castro didn't make a putt of ten feet or longer.
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
... =19?kwinigolfer wrote:And then there's Peter Hanson's round:
1 eagle
7 birdies
8 pars
1 bogey
1 double bogey
1 quad bogey
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
Yes, Let's make that 7 pars!
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
THE STATS PAGE DURING TOURNAMENT PLAY IS FINALLY WORKING AGAIN ON THE PGA TOUR SITE!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
Can't be right though, it says Harrington made an eagle . . . . .
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
come back, don't run...! He followed that with a double bogey...
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
It's never dull being a Harrington fan!!!
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
Gonzo outdoing Hanson so far...
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
Harri with a full Irish breakfast after 5 holes: par-eagle-double-birdie-bogey...
He said after last week's disaster that "consistency is over-rated"...
He said after last week's disaster that "consistency is over-rated"...
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Re: PGA Tour: No Longer the "Fifth Major"?: Notes from the Ballwasher
i hope the Tiger detractors are paying attention to the driving clinic he is putting on so far
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