606v2 Mafia part 2

by GSC Thu 09 May 2013, 4:27 pm

First topic message reminder :

Rules

1. Keep talk about the game in this unless it is specially allowed by your role to talk via PM.
2. You should never edit/delete posts.
3. Do not post when dead.
4. When you want to place a vote make it in bold. Example: Vote: Bull. Non bold votes don't count for anything.
5. Game in split into day and night phases. During the day phase everyone votes as a collective to lynch (or not). Majority vote wins. Game switches to night mode following the lynch (or no lynch).
6. During night mode, mafia and special role players carry out their roles via pm to me.
7. Whenever someone has received majority vote (example 6 with 11, 5 with 9 etc.) that player will be immediately lynched even if the hammer vote is changed before the lynching.
8. Mafia must tell me which member commits the murder each night (if more than 1 mafia member)

The Game

1. You win as a team. You still win if your side wins, while you're dead.
2. Player roles were determined via random.org.
3. If you have any questions about your role or how the game works, send me a PM.
4. I will not lie to you.
5. You can say anything except quote any of my PMs.

Roles (Will probably be updated):
Mafia: Standard Mafia member. Can vote to lynch during the day phase. During the night phase can nominate a player to kill.
Mafia Roleblocker: Can vote to lynch during the day phase. During the night phase can nominate a player to kill, and can nominate 1 player and block their actions.

Town: Standard Town member. Can vote to lynch during the day phase. No Night phase duties.
Doctor: Town member. Can vote to lynch during the day phase. During the night phase can opt to save a player from dying, *players killed during the same night phase only* - Cannot save themselves
Cop: Town member. Can vote to lynch during the day phase. During the night phase can investigate one player to get an innocent/guilty verdict
Watcher: Town member. Can vote to lynch during the day phase. During the night phase can nominate a player, and will be informed which players have carried out an action on that player, but not which action..

by **Afro** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:35 pm

You can't save yourself btw (well at least I wasn't allowed too by GSC), so that can't be true.

Vote Hero

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:35 pm

TSJ is the other mafia guy, he's doing his take one for the team thingy he did with me

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:36 pm

VOTE: TSJ

by Bull Fri 24 May 2013, 3:36 pm

i thought you cant save yourself?

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:36 pm

Night time, off to bed.

by **Hero** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:37 pm

Sod googled the rules and found you could

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:37 pm

TheBrahmaBull wrote:i thought you cant save yourself?

Google told me you could. The rules don't say you can't up there ^^ either.

by GSC Fri 24 May 2013, 3:38 pm

You are not allowed to save yourself when doctor.

by **Afro** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:38 pm

In the past the doc has never been able to save himself.

How can we do a strategy when we are not playing to the same group of rules

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 3:38 pm

sodhat wrote:
TheBrahmaBull wrote:i thought you cant save yourself?

Google told me you could. The rules don't say you can't up there ^^ either.

Rules are rules, and if rules don't say 'doctors can't save themselves', then VOTE: Ambiguity

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:39 pm

It don't say the Doc can't save themselves, so it aint a rule.

Simples

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:40 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:
sodhat wrote:
TheBrahmaBull wrote:i thought you cant save yourself?

Google told me you could. The rules don't say you can't up there ^^ either.
Rules are rules, and if rules don't say 'doctors can't save themselves', then VOTE: Ambiguity

I read those up there like 5 times, and they don't say that. I was asked a direct question that I had to answer, and not knowing the answer I used google. All I could do without compromising the other players.

by **Afro** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:40 pm

But we can't suddenly play by a different set of rules when the mafia are doing a strategy based on how we have played it every single other game.

The very least is that Sod should have told us he had googled it as well, because we would have gone for someone else instead

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:41 pm

But I didn't know that was a rule?

I took it that if I didn't it stood to reason others didn't either

by **Hero** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:42 pm

But you would have then known prior that I was planning to save myself and it'd have given you the advantage to then pick someone else.

by **Afro** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:43 pm

I understand that, but it kind of makes this game null and void because mafia are playing to how we always have done.

Hero was the obvious killing this time around. Had mafia been privy to the fact we were playing slightly differently, we would have naturally selected someone else on the basis that Hero had no choice but to try and save himself

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:43 pm

Right I'm off now

VOTE: TSJ unless he gets killed off in which case VOTE: GSC

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:44 pm

But we had no idea that we were playing different rules - i didn't know that we said the doc can't save himself, the doc didn't (he asked me), it seems Azzy isn't clear on it, and Olly either.

Just have to put it in the rules and play that way from here on.

by **Afro** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:45 pm

Well TSJ and I were playing one way and the rest another.

Not really a fair game

by **Afro** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:45 pm

sodhat wrote:But we had no idea that we were playing different rules - i didn't know that we said the doc can't save himself, the doc didn't (he asked me), it seems Azzy isn't clear on it, and Olly either.

Just have to put it in the rules and play that way from here on.

I agree completely. I'm saying this game is void surely though

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 3:46 pm

We've always played that the Doc can't save himself, which is pretty dumb imo. I think the Doc should be immune from murder.

by The Special Juan Fri 24 May 2013, 3:46 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:Well TSJ and I were playing one way and the rest another.

Not really a fair game

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:46 pm

BigFellasAfro wrote:Well TSJ and I were playing one way and the rest another.

Not really a fair game

Spoiler:

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 3:47 pm

Why don't we say:

Mafia are told who the Cop is (as irl they'd know too)
Doc can't be killed (thus guaranteeing save potential)

by **Hero** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:47 pm

Well it is now you outed your partner

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 3:50 pm

Who outed who?

by **Hero** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:50 pm

Was rather impressed with my double doc save though, controversy or not.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 3:51 pm

Hero wrote:Was rather impressed with my double doc save though, controversy or not.

Yeah, bravo to you mate, first Doctor to ever save someone 606v2 Mafia part 2 - Page 15 3559488474

by **Hero** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:51 pm

Afro outed TSJ as his partner.

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:52 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Why don't we say:

Mafia are told who the Cop is (as irl they'd know too)
Doc can't be killed (thus guaranteeing save potential)

It doesn't make sense that the Doc can't save himself really. I know he has an oath to help others but why not be selfish?

by **Hero** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:52 pm

Hero wrote:Why the need for the list Afro again, working out the order of execution?

And immediately I clocked Afro with this

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:54 pm

Hero wrote:
Hero wrote:Why the need for the list Afro again, working out the order of execution?

And immediately I clocked Afro with this

And I had my head in my hands when you switched off of Afro, who you were sure about and topped Nando!

by The Special Juan Fri 24 May 2013, 3:54 pm

Hero wrote:Afro outed TSJ as his partner.

No it was GSC. You were outwitted by arguably the best post I've ever seen.

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:55 pm

Right, who wants to play mafia?

by **Hero** Fri 24 May 2013, 3:56 pm

sodhat wrote:
Hero wrote:
Hero wrote:Why the need for the list Afro again, working out the order of execution?

And immediately I clocked Afro with this

And I had my head in my hands when you switched off of Afro, who you were sure about and topped Nando!

It was due to Nando jumping in with him in the first round, sleep with the enemy etc

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:57 pm

Hero wrote:
sodhat wrote:
Hero wrote:
Hero wrote:Why the need for the list Afro again, working out the order of execution?

And immediately I clocked Afro with this

And I had my head in my hands when you switched off of Afro, who you were sure about and topped Nando!

It was due to Nando jumping in with him in the first round, sleep with the enemy etc

Nando found out Afro was mafia in the first night. He was trying to lure the other one out in my opinion, by not going straight at Afro. When you were both on him I thought you'd cracked it.

by Fernando Fri 24 May 2013, 3:58 pm

And i did say it was Afro several times but i got bumped off why i call him out if i was teaming with him and i pretty much admitted being a cop as offered to show PM Very Happy

Time for round 2 under proper rules Wink

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 3:59 pm

I'm not running it

The mafia are supposed to be the crooked ones, not the runner.

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 4:01 pm

I can run it until 5pm?

by sodhat Fri 24 May 2013, 4:02 pm

I will play a quick one.

by The Special Juan Fri 24 May 2013, 4:02 pm

I'll run it if you give me a list of who's in (and the rules are clarified).

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 4:04 pm

TSJ can run it, players:

Soddy
Azzy
Afro
Nando
Olly
Hero
GSC

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 4:05 pm

Doc can't save himself is the only rule we need to remember.

by Fernando Fri 24 May 2013, 4:05 pm

i think Olly is gone

by Fernando Fri 24 May 2013, 4:05 pm

Bull wanted in though so replace Olly with him Smile

by Guest Fri 24 May 2013, 4:06 pm

It says he's online?

by The Special Juan Fri 24 May 2013, 4:06 pm

You have until I move rooms to confirm.

by Fernando Fri 24 May 2013, 4:07 pm

Olly wrote:Right I'm off now

VOTE: TSJ unless he gets killed off in which case VOTE: GSC

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri 24 May 2013, 4:08 pm

Im in

by The Special Juan Fri 24 May 2013, 4:09 pm

Olly
Azzy
Nando
soddy

Anyone else?

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