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Post by VDT Thu 06 Jun 2013, 12:44 pm

We're recording the first v2football Podcast tonight, we're looking for forum members views on a topics
Can Liverpool live without Suarez?
How big an impact will Jose have?
You Premier League team of the year?

Either leave a comment, Tweet @v2football or @PaulHV2 or e-mail: football@v2journal.com

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 06 Jun 2013, 1:29 pm

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Post by Holymiky Thu 06 Jun 2013, 1:43 pm

Can Liverpool live without Suarez? - He is a major part of the team but I believe Liverpool can live without Suarez there are plenty of strikers capable of scoring goals and if Liverpool need it they could use the money that they may get from the Suarez sale to purchase a striker that is capable of scoring as many goals as Suarez. I think Benteke could be a great option.

How big an impact will Jose have? - I think he will have a huge impact. He is an amazing manager and very successful. I am soooo happy he is back (I am a Chelsea fan by the way).

You Premier League team of the year?

4-3-3 formation De Gea
Zabaleta - Vertongen - Cahill - Baines
Mata - Carrick - Bale
Benteke - Van Persie - Michu


I could of course of put many different players in there for example Hazard and Suarez.


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Post by VDT Thu 06 Jun 2013, 1:46 pm

Holymiky wrote:Can Liverpool live without Suarez? - He is a major part of the team but I believe Liverpool can live without Suarez there are plenty of strikers capable of scoring goals and if Liverpool need it they could use the money that they may get from the Suarez sale to purchase a striker that can score as many goals as Suarez. I think Benteke could be a great option.

How big an impact will Jose have? - I think he will have a huge impact. He is an amazing manager and very successful. I am soooo happy he is back (I am a Chelsea fan by the way).

You Premier League team of the year?

4-3-3 formation De Gea in goal
Zabaleta - Vertongen - Cahill - Baines
Mata - Carrick - Bale
Benteke - Van Persie - Benteke


I could of course of put many different players in there for example Hazard and Suarez.

You think Benteke had a beast of a season then?
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Post by Holymiky Thu 06 Jun 2013, 1:50 pm

VDT wrote:
Holymiky wrote:Can Liverpool live without Suarez? - He is a major part of the team but I believe Liverpool can live without Suarez there are plenty of strikers capable of scoring goals and if Liverpool need it they could use the money that they may get from the Suarez sale to purchase a striker that can score as many goals as Suarez. I think Benteke could be a great option.

How big an impact will Jose have? - I think he will have a huge impact. He is an amazing manager and very successful. I am soooo happy he is back (I am a Chelsea fan by the way).

You Premier League team of the year?

4-3-3 formation De Gea in goal
Zabaleta - Vertongen - Cahill - Baines
Mata - Carrick - Bale
Benteke - Van Persie - Benteke


I could of course of put many different players in there for example Hazard and Suarez.

You think Benteke had a beast of a season then?

Yeah i do one of the reasons I went with Benteke and Michu were because of the huge impacts that they both have made and especially as its the first season in the Premier League for both players. Also 2 million for Michu is an amazing price for a player who has scored as many goals as he did.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 06 Jun 2013, 1:51 pm

For another podcast might be worth doing an underrated XI of the season?

By that I mean players who have done well, but have gone unnoticed mainly
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:00 pm

Holymiky wrote:
VDT wrote:
Holymiky wrote:Can Liverpool live without Suarez? - He is a major part of the team but I believe Liverpool can live without Suarez there are plenty of strikers capable of scoring goals and if Liverpool need it they could use the money that they may get from the Suarez sale to purchase a striker that can score as many goals as Suarez. I think Benteke could be a great option.

How big an impact will Jose have? - I think he will have a huge impact. He is an amazing manager and very successful. I am soooo happy he is back (I am a Chelsea fan by the way).

You Premier League team of the year?

4-3-3 formation De Gea in goal
Zabaleta - Vertongen - Cahill - Baines
Mata - Carrick - Bale
Benteke - Van Persie - Benteke


I could of course of put many different players in there for example Hazard and Suarez.

You think Benteke had a beast of a season then?

Yeah i do one of the reasons I went with Benteke and Michu were because of the huge impacts that they both have made and especially as its the first season in the Premier League for both players. Also 2 million for Michu is an amazing price for a player who has scored as many goals as he did.

I think you missed what VDT was getting at! Re-read your post haha

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Post by Crimey Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:00 pm

Can Liverpool live without Suarez?
I think his loss will be a huge blow to the side which has essentially been built around him since he arrived. He's the only truly world class player in the team and so any side would be hurt by his loss. To suggest his impact his goals only would be a disservice to his all round play which he contributes to the Liverpool team. He created more chances than any other player in the Premier League last year, even if he doesn't have a direct impact his runs and the fear defences have on him invariably creates space for others.
In world football right now he's a unique player, I don't think there's anybody capable of what he can do, and certainly nobody Liverpool would be able to sign. Benteke is a good player, but he's not even close to being as good as Suarez and I think Villa will try and get a lot for him and he'll end having a hugely inflated transfer fee. Let's remember that Grant Holt had nearly just as good a first season in the Premier League, Benteke is still totally unproven.

How big an impact will Jose have?
A huge impact whether positive or negative. For me the two biggest interesting things about his appointment are;
1. Whether he intends to stick around. Going back to Chelsea for a second time for me and Fergie retiring means that the long-time prediction that he'd end up at Manchester United won't come true, which leaves a question of what Mourinho's next steps will be. He's tried Madrid, he's tried Spain, there's a possibility of France if the league improves, or even Germany to restart his rivalry with Pep, but only Munich really have the funds Jose would want. That leaves for me international football, so it will be interesting if the Portugal job becomes available after the World Cup whether he takes it.
I think Mourinho's future will have a huge effect on how things pan out for him at Chelsea. He could plan to stick around for the long term, in which case his management style will be very interesting, to see whether he does focus on young players such as Chalobah and Lukaku.
2. The second thing that is interesting is that Jose has arrived when three of his core players from last time; Cole, Lampard and Terry are all reaching the ends of their careers and there is a sense that they need to be moved on. This will be very difficult, particularly with the latter two, if they don't choose to retire, then Mourinho may have to deal with dropping two players that he built his sides on last time and two players who are very vocal and influential at the club. Benitez was in the perfect position, as he could drop Lampard and Terry to the benefit of the side without fear of reprisal as he knew he was leaving. Mourinho doesn't have that luxury and has the added point that he has a personal relationship with both. He was pretty ruthless with Carvalho at Madrid, so it will be interesting to see whether he can do the same with Terry and Lampard and then possibly Cole as well.

You Premier League team of the year?

--------------------Mignolet-----------------

Zabaleta-Nastasic--Vertonghen-Baines

--------------Gerrard------Cazorla----------

Lennon--------------Mata----------------Bale

----------------------Suarez---------------------

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Post by Holymiky Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:02 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
Holymiky wrote:
VDT wrote:
Holymiky wrote:Can Liverpool live without Suarez? - He is a major part of the team but I believe Liverpool can live without Suarez there are plenty of strikers capable of scoring goals and if Liverpool need it they could use the money that they may get from the Suarez sale to purchase a striker that can score as many goals as Suarez. I think Benteke could be a great option.

How big an impact will Jose have? - I think he will have a huge impact. He is an amazing manager and very successful. I am soooo happy he is back (I am a Chelsea fan by the way).

You Premier League team of the year?

4-3-3 formation De Gea in goal
Zabaleta - Vertongen - Cahill - Baines
Mata - Carrick - Bale
Benteke - Van Persie - Benteke


I could of course of put many different players in there for example Hazard and Suarez.

You think Benteke had a beast of a season then?

Yeah i do one of the reasons I went with Benteke and Michu were because of the huge impacts that they both have made and especially as its the first season in the Premier League for both players. Also 2 million for Michu is an amazing price for a player who has scored as many goals as he did.

I think you missed what VDT was getting at! Re-read your post haha

Oops thanks for pointing this out haha.

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Post by Holymiky Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:07 pm

Crimey wrote:Can Liverpool live without Suarez?
I think his loss will be a huge blow to the side which has essentially been built around him since he arrived. He's the only truly world class player in the team and so any side would be hurt by his loss. To suggest his impact his goals only would be a disservice to his all round play which he contributes to the Liverpool team. He created more chances than any other player in the Premier League last year, even if he doesn't have a direct impact his runs and the fear defences have on him invariably creates space for others.
In world football right now he's a unique player, I don't think there's anybody capable of what he can do, and certainly nobody Liverpool would be able to sign. Benteke is a good player, but he's not even close to being as good as Suarez and I think Villa will try and get a lot for him and he'll end having a hugely inflated transfer fee. Let's remember that Grant Holt had nearly just as good a first season in the Premier League, Benteke is still totally unproven.

How big an impact will Jose have?
A huge impact whether positive or negative. For me the two biggest interesting things about his appointment are;
1. Whether he intends to stick around. Going back to Chelsea for a second time for me and Fergie retiring means that the long-time prediction that he'd end up at Manchester United won't come true, which leaves a question of what Mourinho's next steps will be. He's tried Madrid, he's tried Spain, there's a possibility of France if the league improves, or even Germany to restart his rivalry with Pep, but only Munich really have the funds Jose would want. That leaves for me international football, so it will be interesting if the Portugal job becomes available after the World Cup whether he takes it.
I think Mourinho's future will have a huge effect on how things pan out for him at Chelsea. He could plan to stick around for the long term, in which case his management style will be very interesting, to see whether he does focus on young players such as Chalobah and Lukaku.
2. The second thing that is interesting is that Jose has arrived when three of his core players from last time; Cole, Lampard and Terry are all reaching the ends of their careers and there is a sense that they need to be moved on. This will be very difficult, particularly with the latter two, if they don't choose to retire, then Mourinho may have to deal with dropping two players that he built his sides on last time and two players who are very vocal and influential at the club. Benitez was in the perfect position, as he could drop Lampard and Terry to the benefit of the side without fear of reprisal as he knew he was leaving. Mourinho doesn't have that luxury and has the added point that he has a personal relationship with both. He was pretty ruthless with Carvalho at Madrid, so it will be interesting to see whether he can do the same with Terry and Lampard and then possibly Cole as well.

You Premier League team of the year?

--------------------Mignolet-----------------

Zabaleta-Nastasic--Vertonghen-Baines

--------------Gerrard------Cazorla----------

Lennon--------------Mata----------------Bale

----------------------Suarez---------------------

I have watched the interview Jose Mourinho had with Chelsea TV and it sounds like he plans to stay for a long time and build a team. I'm pretty sure he said about providing stability for the players to improve even more.


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:08 pm

Lennon Crimey? Erm
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:10 pm

Can tell Crimey's a Liverpool fan lol

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:12 pm

Mine's exactly the same as the PFA one http://www.thepfa.com/thepfa/pfaawards/bpl-team-of-the-year

De Gea
Zabaleta Rio Vertongen Baines
Hazard Mata Carrick Bale
Suarez RVP

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Post by Fernando Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:14 pm

Can Liverpool live without Suarez? Yes provided they get adaquate replacement by that i mean better then Benteke, Personally i could see them buying an AM and playing them behind Sturridge

How big an impact will Jose have? - Shall annoy some Chelsea fans with this, He's come back for an easy ride essentially Fergie gone,United/Citeh now got new managers with settling in period so should have an easy title win for this season after that who knows

You Premier League team of the year? admittedly this side would never work together in RL but it's about the best of the best not what will work well.

----------------------------Lloris
Zabaleta --- Vertonghen -- Jagielka -- Baines
---------------- Cazorla ---- Mata
-------------Michu ------------------Bale
----------------------RVP -----Suarez

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Post by Crimey Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:15 pm

6 fingered tractor boy wrote:Lennon Crimey? Erm

I think he's been excellent this year, nearly as much a part of Tottenham's success as Bale.

As for Liverpool bias, I don't think anybody can argue with Suarez' inclusion. I think in general he's had a better year than Van Persie who has scored a lot of goals, but hasn't had the same all round influence on the side. Gerrard's inclusion is justified I think, the only other central midfielder who could be mooted by others is Carrick who I think is massively overrated. It's the same reason why the likes of Busquets are wrongly rated as well.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:21 pm

I'd argue Snodgrass should be included over Lennon tbh, I can't remember him really having many standout performances
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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:29 pm

A striker's job is to score more goals, RVP scored more and important ones at that. If we're taking into account overall 'influence' on the team, then the negative effect of all Suarez's indescretions needed to considered which further drops him behind RVP who's a perfect pro (though LS still #2 in the EPL).

Don't see what Gerrard has done to justify inclusion, only a hero-worshipping Liverpool fan could see something nobody else has. Carrick's control over games has been second to none this season. Gerrard's living off a reputation from 5 yrs ago.

Is Mignolet's inclusion anything to do with him being a Liverpool target....??

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Post by Crimey Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:37 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:A striker's job is to score more goals, RVP scored more and important ones at that. If we're taking into account overall 'influence' on the team, then the negative effect of all Suarez's indescretions needed to considered which further drops him behind RVP who's a perfect pro (though LS still #2 in the EPL).

Don't see what Gerrard has done to justify inclusion, only a hero-worshipping Liverpool fan could see something nobody else has. Carrick's control over games has been second to none this season. Gerrard's living off a reputation from 5 yrs ago.

Is Mignolet's inclusion anything to do with him being a Liverpool target....??

The strikers role has changed and developed over the past 20-30 years to be more than just a target at the top of the pitch, scoring goals is a huge part of it, but not the only part. Suarez scored a lot of goals, a higher proportion of his sides goals than RVP as well. I don't think Suarez' suspension at the end of the year from a footballing perspective had such a bad influence, Newcastle were thrashed, Fulham were soundly beaten and QPR were beaten as well and a solid 0-0 draw with Everton. PR wise it was bad, but not from a footballing perspective.

I think Gerrard's has his best year since 08/09, he got more assists than he ever has before, he adjusted to a new position brilliantly, his stats were superb this year. I think Carrick's influence on the United side is hugely overplaid and you could stick any decent central midfielder in that mould, say Arteta and you'd get the same results. He's good at what he does, but what he does is very limited. He's not anywhere near as good as Scholes was. Gerrard has 9 goals, 9 assists. Carrick has 1 goal, 4 assists. I'm sure his imaginary contribution to his team is appreciated by most people, but I just don't see it.

I don't want us to sign Mignolet, I think Reina is still the better keeper, and to be fair it could have gone to any number of keepers such as Begovic, Cech, De Gea, Lloris, Guzan...Mignolet was just the first one that came to mind and the one that stuck out for me. I had forgotten that he was linked with Liverpool

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 06 Jun 2013, 2:56 pm

RVP got more assists, as well as goals, so his influence on the wider team is clear. And you're right, it is more than about just banging them in nowadays, which is why being an odious little toad that gets regularly sent off, spends several games a season suspended and generally unsettles a dressing room is an important consideration. As is RVP's figurehead status at ManU. The impact of a successful marquee signing on team psyche is huge - and the opposite to what Suarez's attitude and behaviour produces.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Thu 06 Jun 2013, 3:06 pm

Can Liverpool live without Suarez?
Well, that depends at what level. Ignore those who say the points total was better without, he is clearly their best player and won them points on his own this year. Even when he wasn't scoring his nuisance factor is a consistent threat. On the field, they won't replace him. They won't get a player of his quality in due to their standing, and they have no one in the club good enough to fill the void. However, beyond merely playing football he is a pig of a player to have and they could save themselves a lot of bother getting rid of him now and bringing in two players to fill other voids. If they go very simple and find a £20m striker and £20m winger or midfielder then they may be a little better off if they get it right.


How big an impact will Jose have?
I tentatively make them my pick for the title. His drive will win them extra points, he will improve their defence either with money or his coaching. He will demand higher standards and he is also inheriting a team with quality players, the likes of Oscar and Hazard will only be better players for a year in England for example. I imagine he'll get some big money too. Top quality striker and midfielder and they are challengers.

You Premier League team of the year?

Jussi; Zabaleta Rio Vertonghen Baines; Carrick Cazorla; Mata Michu Bale; RVP. Honourable mentions for Winston Reid, Suarez, Benteke, De Gea and Dembele

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 06 Jun 2013, 3:15 pm

Chelsea are definitely my pick for the title next season.

Citeh second, United third. Whether Arsenal pull off another coup will depend whether Arsene grows/shows some balls this transfer window.

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Post by Nakatomi Plaza Thu 06 Jun 2013, 4:38 pm

Can Liverpool succeed live without Suarez?
Yes, if Rodgers reinvests the money well. I think Daniel Sturridge has got all the attributes to be a 20 goal a season man, and looks like the type of player who'd enjoy being the main man. Liverpool will need to add goals from midfield though, and if Coutinho continues his fine start to life in England, then he could be a key player.

How big an impact will Jose have?
Mourinho's strength has always been building sides from the back. If Chelsea are to win the league, this is where they need to make great strides. I agree with the consensus that Chelsea need a world class striker, but wonder if Mou's loyalty to his old stalwarts, Terry and Cole, may cost the Blues.

Premier League Team of the year 2012/13

De Gea, Zabaleta, Vertonghen, Luiz, Baines; Cazorla, Carrick, Mata, Bale; Van Persie, Suarez

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Post by The Womble Thu 06 Jun 2013, 8:46 pm

I'm pretty confident that next seasons PL will be a race between City and Chelsea. I can see Liverpool improving, Tottenham stuttering and Arsenal surprising a few people.
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Post by Trebs Thu 06 Jun 2013, 9:06 pm

Can Liverpool live without Suarez?
I think so, as long as they sign a couple of quality players this summer. Sturridge proved he's more than capable during the Suarez ban at the end of last season.

How big an impact will Jose have?
A huge impact for sure, I think Chelsea will be capable of winning the league and some players will come out of the shadows to impress. Think Michael Essien will have a good season, one to watch.

You Premier League team of the year?
-----------------------------De Gea-------------------------
Zabalaeta-------Ferdinand---------Jagielka--------Baines
----------------------Carrick------Lampard-----------------
-----------Mata--------------Michu-------------Bale--------
----------------------------Van Persie-----------------------

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Post by VDT Thu 06 Jun 2013, 9:48 pm

The first v2football podcast is complete, should be up to listen to shortly! Hope you enjoy the show!
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Post by Crimey Thu 06 Jun 2013, 9:49 pm

Looking forward to it.

Keep it going guys, then I can be on some in the summer with a staunch defence of Glen Johnson. Cool

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Post by Holymiky Thu 06 Jun 2013, 10:00 pm

I'm looking forward to the podcast also Smile

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