Should Del Potro's Name Be On Both The Olympic And Wimbledon Trophy As A Joint Winner

Let's be honest Del Boy reduced both Djoko and Fed to less then 20% of there physical capabilities before they even hit a shot against Murray in the final both of whom had deal with Andy with ease in all there MAJOR finals previous

Now i'm not saying Andy's name should be removed from the trophy as regardless of there 20% at best physical state he still had to get the ball into the court but should Del Boy be put down as joint winner

Also the final has been poor makes me sick to see how much they have slowed down the Grass and Hard court events to help these pushers

Welcome to 606v2, Facts. I assume you carry a baggage against one or more player(s).

If a player cannot adjust to a surface, do you think that player deserves any wins?

BTW, you remind me of posters past.

Please stay on topic and answer the original OP please???



Ps: Thanks for the welcome

No he lost and did not get to the final.

Stats dont matter at all its like a footy match one team could dominate completely lose 1-0.

so no if he wants his name on it then get to the final and win.

Yes Del Potro played his part in making it slightly easier for Andy but he didn't go and win it its Andy who did it, so kudos to Andy   

Of course and;-

1) Andy needs to have a share of the US08', given to the unfairness of his 3-day SF
2) Then of course, let's share the Aus 10' - after all Cilic kept him on court longer than he should have done in the SF

I'm sure Novak, Roger and Rafa fans have their's  

Slightly lol let's be totally honest here neither Novak or Fed were at 20% of there average physical condtion. Like I said though that's not Andy's fault he got the ball in the court and they did the rest so fair do's to him

AUS 10 I think him playing a past his prime mono Roger should have been an equaliser lol

The Facts wrote:Also the final has been poor makes me sick to see how much they have slowed down the Grass and Hard court events to help these pushers

Remember, there is a always a nice picnic on Sunday, rather than sitting in front of Telly and watching these so-called pushers, unless you are a masochist, and insist on writing similar pieces in the future?

BTW, which year did W slow down?

Maybe Delpo should actually win his matches and then maybe he could get one of each perhaps

He looked physically fine to me. Physically better than Murray actually. He had more errors and less winners though. That's how he lost it. His movement was absolutely fine.

Andy Murray has won Wimbledon!!    

The Facts wrote:AUS 10 I think him playing a past his prime mono Roger should have been an equaliser lol

Federer had mono from AO 2008 - AO 2010?

Danny_1982 wrote:He looked physically fine to me. Physically better than Murray actually. He had more errors and less winners though. That's how he lost it. His movement was absolutely fine.

Andy Murray has won Wimbledon!!    

Hey Andrew Castle is Sue with you???

Hey everyone WUM alert!!!!!!!!

Are you allergic to A's?

Would help if you spelt his name correctly

You don't think it was strange a BASELINE player like Novak was running pointlessly to the net???

I was SURE he was doing it to shorten points but I suppose that was just me then??

Just relax guys in years to come when our future generation look at the record book his victories will not be called into question

HOWEVER those of us who watched and Andy himself will know that he had a massive advantage even before a ball was hit

JuliusHMarx wrote:Hey everyone WUM alert!!!!!!!!

u serious ? 

The Facts wrote:

Danny_1982 wrote:He looked physically fine to me. Physically better than Murray actually. He had more errors and less winners though. That's how he lost it. His movement was absolutely fine.

Andy Murray has won Wimbledon!!    

Hey Andrew Castle is Sue with you???

It's not Andrew Castle, it's Andy Murray.

And Sue isn't with me, but the trophy is.

I'm only playing with you mate

But seriously you can't honestly say Novak looked physically fine out there him doing the robot to the net every other point was quite clearly defining

Danny_1982 wrote:

The Facts wrote:

Danny_1982 wrote:He looked physically fine to me. Physically better than Murray actually. He had more errors and less winners though. That's how he lost it. His movement was absolutely fine.

Andy Murray has won Wimbledon!!    

Hey Andrew Castle is Sue with you???

It's not Andrew Castle, it's Andy Murray.

And Sue isn't with me, but the trophy is.

Do you have the Olympic Gold Medal with you as well?

PS Hope they have spelt your name correctly on the wall - MURRAY  

CaledonianCraig wrote:

Danny_1982 wrote:

The Facts wrote:

Danny_1982 wrote:He looked physically fine to me. Physically better than Murray actually. He had more errors and less winners though. That's how he lost it. His movement was absolutely fine.

Andy Murray has won Wimbledon!!    

Hey Andrew Castle is Sue with you???

It's not Andrew Castle, it's Andy Murray.

And Sue isn't with me, but the trophy is.

Do you have the Olympic Gold Medal with you as well?

PS Hope they have spelt your name correctly on the wall - MURRAY  

No, I left it at home.

Good job too, this Wimbledon trophy is pretty bloody heavy!!!

Good to see my name scratched on the board, and no matter what anyone says it will always say "2013 Andy Murray".... And that my friend, is a "Fact"

In Del Boy England sorry Scotland sorry Britain Trust

Andy better keep his girl away from the caveman and his club or she will never want to go back to him

Kim had a few hiccups in the last game.

The Facts wrote:Just relax guys in years to come when our future generation look at the record book his victories will not be called into question

HOWEVER those of us who watched and Andy himself will know that he had a massive advantage even before a ball was hit

If Federer and Djockovic were physically drained by their semi-final matches before Murray beat them then that's their problem for not winning their semi-finals easily enough. Murray beat Djockovic in straight sets during the Olympic semi as well, which kept him fresh for the final.

Thats grand slam play... Djoko did a 6 hour shift with Nadal in 2012 after a 5 hour one with muzz in australian heat. He was fine, Muzz was inspired

Actually.....tosh.

In the tournament Andy had been on court half an hour more than Djokovic going into the tournament.

In his press conference after, he said he was absolutely fine physically. He was annoyed that he wasn't more patient and that he didn't play well enough in the big moments.

Which confirms what I thought, that he was physically absolutely fine.

That dispels that myth then. Next one up will be the heat.

Surely Im not the only one who knows that you dont get a trophy in thhe Olympics?

kingraf wrote:Surely Im not the only one who knows that you dont get a trophy in thhe Olympics?

That is a distressingly good point.

CaledonianCraig wrote:That dispels that myth then. Next one up will be the heat.

Or the lack of wind  

I know the original post is a WUM, but I'd like to make a couple of points as to why del Potro's semi final performance in the Olympics was more significant to the performance of Federer in the final than it was to Djokovic yesterday.

The matches were fairly similar lengths (the Wimby SF about 15 minutes longer, but most of that was probably just Djoko's 127 bounces before each serve), but:

1 - Federer had less than 24 hours to recover, Djoko almost 48.
2 - Djokovic is fitter, younger and has previously shown great ability to recover physically from long matches.
3 - For all the Djoko-DP semi-final was a five setter, Djokovic was in control pretty much throughout, so other than the come-down from dropping the match points in the 4th set tie break it wasn't the emotional roller coaster that the Olympic SF was, as every game from 4-4 in the decider was potentially critical - drop a serve and you were likely to lose the match.

So I don't really buy either physical or mental tiredness as being huge issues for Djokovic yesterday. He simply had a bit of a poor day while Andy played well both by getting cheap points on serve and particularly in not letting Djoko get many on his.

The semi-finals for the Olympics were on Friday and the final on the Sunday, I think.

ryan86 wrote:The semi-finals for the Olympics were on Friday and the final on the Sunday, I think.

you are right and Andy played second on friday and played Mixed doubles on Saturday, so in all fairness Andy was the clear cut winner, but DF did make a point, its not easy for a 31 year to recover from a game like that. 

Yes, lest we forget, on the basis of 9 games = a set, the semi was a 6-setter equivalent. That's not easy, especially for an elderly gentleman.

The Facts = the Fax = the Phax = the Phacks =  the Phacts = the Facks, which is a sport in itself.

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Which means that the OP is a Facks-higgity-Shak. Proven.

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Its all there in print, The Facts trying to say the Gods name Murray in vain.