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Post by Strongback Wed 10 Jul 2013, 11:11 pm

Luke Campbell v Andy Harris

12 Rounds Welterweight: Kell Brook v Carson Jones

Vacant Commonwealth Lightweight Title: Derry Mathews v Tommy Coyle

WBC International featherweight title: Lee Selby v Viorel Simion

Six rounds middleweight: Anthony Ogogo v Gary Boulden



There seems to be a bit of hype surrounding Luke Campbell, a lot created by Eddie,  so will be interesting to see how he does.

Carson Jones is apparently going to try and physically kill Brook.  Brook needs to do better this time.

Derry really doesn't help himself on social media so I won't mind him getting a good test.

Looks like a decent match up for Selby and real progress to be made for the winner towards a crack at the WBC belt.

Ogogo looked like he wouldn't have the power to punch his way out of a wet paper bag in his last outing.  Now he's a pro he needs to work on his heavy hitting, he threw and landed heaps of power shots to no effect last time.  Flash boxer but does he bite.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed 10 Jul 2013, 11:17 pm

Wow. This card has gone completely un noticed and not really been advertised very well. (in on about Kell Brool vs Carson Jones).

surprising really.

i agree with your view on Ogogo, definitely needs work on his power, looked brilliant stateside but lacked that killer blow which may come in time.

GBP seemed very impressed mind.

Lee Selby looks destined for very good things. Have been very impressed in his last few fights. How far he goes will be interesting with the current World Crop.

Luke Campbell......now.....this boy has been hyped to the rafters big time. He better perform!!

on another note, i hope brook does get killed by Jones. The guy is a tool, hardly ever fights and when he stepped up to AVERAGE level against Jones he got dragged into a complete war and only scraped through! Somehow got a world title shot which fell through after what seemed like a decade of re scheduled fights. Now he is back down to AVERAGE level against a guy who recently lost?!

i just don't get it.

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Post by Steffan Wed 10 Jul 2013, 11:31 pm

The reason this fight has gone so unnoticed is probably because people have lost interest in Brook and I think even Matchroom are finding it hard to sell the guy now

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Post by Strongback Wed 10 Jul 2013, 11:43 pm

Just read the Brook fight is at 152lb instead of 147lb.

Brook really is a waster. Will he ever knuckle down? Personally I wrote him off a couple of years ago when I realised he was lazy.

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Post by manos de piedra Wed 10 Jul 2013, 11:53 pm

I think its fair to be critical of Brook in the past but he was very unfortunate to lose out on the Alexander fight when the stage was set for him.

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Post by azania Wed 10 Jul 2013, 11:57 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Wow. This card has gone completely un noticed and not really been advertised very well. (in on about Kell Brool vs Carson Jones).

surprising really.

i agree with your view on Ogogo, definitely needs work on his power, looked brilliant stateside but lacked that killer blow which may come in time.

GBP seemed very impressed mind.

Lee Selby looks destined for very good things. Have been very impressed in his last few fights. How far he goes will be interesting with the current World Crop.

Luke Campbell......now.....this boy has been hyped to the rafters big time. He better perform!!

on another note, i hope brook does get killed by Jones. The guy is a tool, hardly ever fights and when he stepped up to AVERAGE level against Jones he got dragged into a complete war and only scraped through! Somehow got a world title shot which fell through after what seemed like a decade of re scheduled fights. Now he is back down to AVERAGE level against a guy who recently lost?!

i just don't get it.

Absolutely stupid thing to say even in jest.

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Post by azania Wed 10 Jul 2013, 11:58 pm

Strongback wrote:Just read the Brook fight is at 152lb instead of 147lb.

Brook really is a waster. Will he ever knuckle down?  Personally I wrote him off a couple of years ago when I realised he was lazy.

If the guy can't make 147 he can't make 147. What do you want him to do; starve himself?

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 7:54 am

Why AZ? Its my opinion and everyone is entitled to one, just like you on Price and Khan, some of which people don't agree with. I don't mean i actually want him to die in the ring, i just hope Jones kills his career off. He is going nowhere.

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Post by Strongback Thu 11 Jul 2013, 7:59 am

azania wrote:
Strongback wrote:Just read the Brook fight is at 152lb instead of 147lb.

Brook really is a waster. Will he ever knuckle down?  Personally I wrote him off a couple of years ago when I realised he was lazy.

If the guy can't make 147 he can't make 147. What do you want him to do; starve himself?


Emm........he could fight at 154.


152 is a ridiculous catch weight for a supposed welter weight.

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Post by Snakeyman123 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 8:20 am

azania wrote:
Strongback wrote:Just read the Brook fight is at 152lb instead of 147lb.

Brook really is a waster. Will he ever knuckle down?  Personally I wrote him off a couple of years ago when I realised he was lazy.

If the guy can't make 147 he can't make 147. What do you want him to do; starve himself?





Starve himself...a stupid thing to say even in jest, people are starving in the world..or maybe it's just a turn of phrase??

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Post by mobilemaster8 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 10:25 am

Liked what you did there snake......

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Post by TopHat24/7 Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:25 am

From the other thread:

TopHat24/7 wrote:Part of Brook's problem is that, in a normal 9 yr career, most people would consider it reasonable for someone who started at 147 to be moving up to say 154 after 6-8 yrs at the weight. But as Brook has achieved little and is still just a fringe contender, the fact his body naturally is outgoing the weight makes him look bad.

If he has been half as successful as Amir Khan and was now saying "my body's outgrowing the weight and I need to go to 154", nobody would bat an eyelid.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 11 Jul 2013, 11:37 am

I hope Campbell looks awful just so I can laugh at Eddie Hearn using the Chris Eubank Jr ("we are matching him tough") excuses.

Would love to see Brook get beat (Kevin Keegan style) I WOULD JUST LOVE IT IF JONES BEATS HIM!!!

And again, this is nothing really to do with Brook, the fact the last Jones fight was supposed to be an eliminator.....then the next fight was another eliminator.....Hearn bores me to tears with these kind of fights. Almost every fight he puts on is supposecd to be an eliminator. I remember when Paul McClumsy was fighting Bredis Prescott....WBA Eliminator....the DeMarcus Corley....eliminator to fight Marquez.

E.E.E.Eliminator!!!!!!
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Post by hazharrison Thu 11 Jul 2013, 12:16 pm

Strongback wrote:Just read the Brook fight is at 152lb instead of 147lb.

Brook really is a waster. Will he ever knuckle down?  Personally I wrote him off a couple of years ago when I realised he was lazy.

It's 150 rather than 147. So he's going for a McChicken Sandwich rather than the full meal.

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu 11 Jul 2013, 7:42 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Wow. This card has gone completely un noticed and not really been advertised very well. (in on about Kell Brool vs Carson Jones).

surprising really.

i agree with your view on Ogogo, definitely needs work on his power, looked brilliant stateside but lacked that killer blow which may come in time.

GBP seemed very impressed mind.

Lee Selby looks destined for very good things. Have been very impressed in his last few fights. How far he goes will be interesting with the current World Crop.

Luke Campbell......now.....this boy has been hyped to the rafters big time. He better perform!!

on another note, i hope brook does get killed by Jones. The guy is a tool, hardly ever fights and when he stepped up to AVERAGE level against Jones he got dragged into a complete war and only scraped through! Somehow got a world title shot which fell through after what seemed like a decade of re scheduled fights. Now he is back down to AVERAGE level against a guy who recently lost?!

i just don't get it.

Yes... It was totally his fault that he got injured and that Alexander got "injured"...

What a load of tripe.

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Post by Colan (niner) Sat 13 Jul 2013, 12:49 pm

I think Carson Jones and Derry Matthews get two big wins tonight

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Post by djlovesyou Sat 13 Jul 2013, 1:12 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Wow. This card has gone completely un noticed and not really been advertised very well. (in on about Kell Brool vs Carson Jones).


Will be a decent crowd there though. 7000-8000 sold before yesterday I heard.

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 13 Jul 2013, 1:32 pm

Would appreciate if someone could clear this up, seeing as there's a lot of frustration bordering on ill-feeling towards Brook.

Heard a few 'waster' type comments and begs the question to which I do not know the answer - does he not 'live the life' in terms of training, nutrition etc and is that the source of some of the comments?

I genuinely don't know which is why I'm asking, but that seems to be the undertone to some of what is being said.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Sat 13 Jul 2013, 2:48 pm

Come on Alex pull the other one.....i think its safe to say with what we have seen so far with kell brook that he wont be anywhere near world level at all anytime soon.

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Post by sparxz Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:18 pm

The rumours are shadow, that prior to the last jones clash, he didn't diet properly and just crashed to weight, but as he kept winning he thought I was fine, but showed against jones when he gassed from round 6, although he showed heart and can grind a result, no matter how lucky.

He is talking now that he has done everything correctly this time round.

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Post by Strongback Sat 13 Jul 2013, 3:33 pm

Here's the Brook-Carson weigh-in video. A bit of argy-bargy at the face off.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uPC4OCie9k




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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 13 Jul 2013, 4:54 pm

sparxz wrote:The rumours are shadow, that prior to the last jones clash, he didn't diet properly and just crashed to weight, but as he kept winning he thought I was fine, but showed against jones when he gassed from round 6, although he showed heart and can grind a result, no matter how lucky.

He is talking now that he has done everything correctly this time round.

Thanks for clearing it up - appreciated OK 

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Post by eddyfightfan Sat 13 Jul 2013, 5:52 pm

i think early on he was getting trouble about town and silly things, but really focused around the n'dou fight onwards, however he did say he cut corners in training the first jones fight so who knows. i think the early broken nose didn't help either in that fight.

i think a lot of people also hold the fact that he turned down a shot at bradley's title whilst he was plowing over guys in constant final eliminators, to secure a shot alexander, then pulled out a few times citing injury.

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Post by Strongback Sat 13 Jul 2013, 6:09 pm

He got a conviction for hitting a night club employee who would not let him into the ladies toilets. The conviction was overturned on appeal due to a technicality.

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Post by superflyweight Sat 13 Jul 2013, 6:50 pm

Strongback wrote:He got a conviction for hitting a night club employee who would not let him into the ladies toilets.  The conviction was overturned on appeal due to a technicality.

Because he has female genitalia?


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Post by Rowley Sat 13 Jul 2013, 7:01 pm

superflyweight wrote:
Strongback wrote:He got a conviction for hitting a night club employee who would not let him into the ladies toilets.  The conviction was overturned on appeal due to a technicality.

Because he has female genitalia?


You really are a credit to your profession superfly.

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Post by RanjitPatel Sat 13 Jul 2013, 8:57 pm

IJL is on the scene. Always makes it interesting.

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Post by monty junior Sat 13 Jul 2013, 9:40 pm

Why was he wanting in to the women's toilets? or is that a daft question Shocked 

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sat 13 Jul 2013, 9:45 pm

monty junior wrote:Why was he wanting in to the women's toilets? or is that a daft question Shocked 

Too many jokes...

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Post by spencerclarke Sat 13 Jul 2013, 10:17 pm

Never go to boxing with 'big fight only' fans. Tas been a pain in the aris. Selby fight was pants mind. Didn't help matters. Looking forward to brook

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Post by Qoxiivi Sat 13 Jul 2013, 10:19 pm

Watched the first two rounds of the Ogogo fight - how was the stoppage, and how did he look up until then?

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Post by superflyweight Sat 13 Jul 2013, 10:20 pm

Rowley wrote:
superflyweight wrote:
Strongback wrote:He got a conviction for hitting a night club employee who would not let him into the ladies toilets.  The conviction was overturned on appeal due to a technicality.

Because he has female genitalia?


You really are a credit to your profession superfly.

I learnt my trade at the knee of Lionel Hutz.

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Post by spencerclarke Sat 13 Jul 2013, 10:21 pm

Looked a bit soft from in the stands but you obviously dont have the same views as on tv so might have been fair. Crowd were a bt suprised though

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:00 pm

Class shot there from Derry

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Post by Cast a Shadow Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:05 pm

Great shot - always nice to have an ace up your sleeve!!

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:18 pm

Jones has one of the most strangely shaped heads I have ever seen.

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Post by Strongback Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:23 pm

Bit of a "lottery punch" that one from Derry.

Brook looks good some beautiful punches.

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Post by Strongback Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:25 pm

Left and right hooks are special.

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Post by bellchees Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:27 pm

How did this punch bag run Brook so close last year?

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:27 pm

Jones is just a sitting target here. Not sure what he is playing at? Kell does look good but it isn't hard when the other guy is doing nothing.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:28 pm

Jones having to take a lot of clean shots already

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Post by Strongback Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:30 pm

Sky are getting harder to listen to these days.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:31 pm

Brooks nose has been damaged as he was on the ropes a lot more in that round

Déjà Vu?

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:31 pm

Brook was breathing a little heavy in the corner there. Has a bloody nose too. Jones really shouldn't be getting anywhere near this fight though.

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Post by Lumbering_Jack Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:32 pm

I really have no idea what Jones's game plan is. He is just wading forward hands high in straight lines. Very poor.

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Post by bellchees Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:34 pm

Better from Jones, 1st time he's looked like he actually wants to be there.

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Post by Strongback Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:35 pm

Kell looks a bit puffed.

Carson ain't going to go away.

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Post by Qoxiivi Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:38 pm

What a weird fight. For the first three rounds Jones looked like he didn't want to even try; almost like McCall against Lewis, then he just seemingly 'decides' to start trying.

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Post by bellchees Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:39 pm

Strongback wrote:Kell looks a bit puffed.

Carson ain't going to go away.

Shame its a 10 rounder, 12 would have been more interesting.

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Post by WHU_Champo_League_in_7Yrs Sat 13 Jul 2013, 11:39 pm

Jones really can take a shot well, the guy regroups very quickly and always comes forward

Brook can land shots at will and is dominating pretty much every round

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