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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Sun 28 Jul 2013, 10:55 pm

First topic message reminder :

OK so there you go folks - Now you see what all the delays were about, hope you enjoyed the show, no doubt you will have a load of questions Smile

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Post by Enforcer Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:13 pm

Dubs, it has been an age. Probably not since BBC 606 or the old 6CW site possibly! Looking forward to having you write some of my matches.

Of course it was Gregers! A really good character too, even apart from the merge it looks like the roster has got stronger. Having read the latest show I have to say there was a mini mark out for the return of the Australian Phenom!

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Post by Guest Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:14 pm

think a show every 5 days is too much, no time for promoing and definitely too much pressure on the writers to meet deadlines

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Post by Adam D Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:19 pm

its a hard balance as if you space the shows out too far, then wrestlers get disinterested.

If you do them too often, then writers struggle.

Have you ever considered a match result show where no writing is involved but people could still create their own storyline.

In other words, every other 5 day period, its the equivalent of Sunday Night heat and instead of a full write up its just "Wrestler A beat Wrestler B by roll up". That way people can still promo for it but takes pressure off the writers?

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Post by jeromedubois Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:19 pm

A brand split has always been a long goal of mine that I have always wanted to try. But would have 2 seperate shows with separates rosters making sure you had one show a week, but the schedule being on a 2 week period if that made any sense. At this point in time though I don't think we have enough people Smile, and with the shock we created yesterday I think we will be going back to a little normality Smile

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:25 pm

A show every 5 days tomato 

In all honesty I don't want to go down the two show route as we may as well have not merged - I think on one show we can easily accommodate that size roster and multiple belts - Who knows we could create a tag belt.

That is the beauty of having the merge. We can look at what changes we want to put in and what we want to keep the same. There is a lot of what was in EWF that we really liked and want to keep but under the combined 6CW banner

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Post by Guest Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:26 pm

I'd be happy with the 10 day gap. If its all going to be one show plus we have a pool of writers

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:29 pm

Adam D wrote:its a hard balance as if you space the shows out too far, then wrestlers get disinterested.

If you do them too often, then writers struggle.

Have you ever considered a match result show where no writing is involved but people could still create their own storyline.

In other words, every other 5 day period, its the equivalent of Sunday Night heat and instead of a full write up its just "Wrestler A beat Wrestler B by roll up". That way people can still promo for it but takes pressure off the writers?

We are looking at ways of changing the face of E fedding and that is something we have looked at. I like the idea of a flexible schedule so we could have an episode of Anarchy and then 5 days later say have a smaller episode of Conflict and then a week later Anarchy. We want to keep things fresh and interesting but keep everybody involved, its a fine balance that we will have to work on

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:29 pm

I worded it wrong, it wouldn't really be a show every 5 days, it would still be the standard 10 day gap...this is how I would space it.

1st - Show A's card is put up
5th - Show B's card is put up
10th - Show A 1 is posted/next card for show A 2 is posted
15th - Show B 1 is posted/next card for show B 2 is posted
20th - Show A 2 is posted/next card for show A 3 is posted
25th - Show B 2 is posted/next card for show B 3 is posted

and so on, basically on the one side have JJ with show A and Paul and Dubs with show B with story lines running through both shows that link together and some shows have guys who normally show up on show A on show B...this way it makes sense to have two World Titles, it also gives us a load of shows a month to build to PPV's...I like the idea of having a draft etc

I'm getting way in to this haha

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Post by Guest Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:33 pm

I don't think we'll be splitting the roster though, the merger would make no sense, may as well have stayed seperate companies

I like the idea of having the one roster and a huge show every 10-14 days. This would be one heck of an active fed.

Also down the line have a unification bout so we only have one world title, maybe introducing a 4th less prestigious title so then we would have 20 odd guys over 4 belts with one of those belts obviously being the big one

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:37 pm

My suggestion for belts down the line would be:

Unified World Heavyweight Championship (EWF & 6CW)
Television Title
Anarchy Title
UK Title (like the WWE US Title)
Tag Titles

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Post by Guest Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:41 pm

Agree with that, maybe have reservations about tag titles as I don't like pairing singles competitiors as tag teams (unless part of a faction), think more often than not it highlights a lack of ideas for said characters direction. I think if we got some genuine tag teams though would like to see the titles

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Post by Adam D Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:45 pm

I always prefered being part of a tag team as it took pressure off to always promo and kept things fresh.

If you have four good individual promoers, then the tag team division can be amazing.

I always think its a shame in efedding and WWF that tag teams are looked down upon.


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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:47 pm

We do benefit (as long as everybody is still happy to help) with having a large pool of match writers at our disposal, obviously with Dubs and JJ able to knock the big matches out of the park - I chip in with the odd segment

To start with we will probably stick to basics show every 10-14 days etc but we have a creative meeting planned and we will look ahead to Night of Glory next year

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Post by Enforcer Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:49 pm

In 6WF I was a part of a couple of tag teams and it was great. It meant that you could have a good run in a team which makes promos more fun as there are 3 people to bounce off and as Adam said relieves the pressure slightly.

The other thing is that when tag teams were used, most had singles feuds when not in the title scene - but they were still recognised as a team. In EWF for example Jimmy Phillips & Mike Conrad and Thunder & Liam Wood could be used as teams if not in a singles title feud.

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:49 pm

Sometimes in terms of kicking somebody's journey to the top off a start in the tag division is perfect. Definitely for Lex it is where I really found my feet.

Adam what was ELC's tag team called again? - They were always a favourite of mine

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Post by jeromedubois Mon 29 Jul 2013, 12:53 pm

I like tag teams but at the moment i don't feel the roster is big enough for it. Not a fan of having too many title as well as I believe one too many feds have that structure, and two having too many titles takes away some of the glamour of the storyline, as the story tends to always revolve around a challenger wanting the title. The less titles the more creative you can be, the more titles I believe you just end up lazy and don't need to think too much as to what to do next.

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:00 pm

Just a quick request, could we update Viper's character sheet to the one I sent to you guys..also add this picture at the top as I think having an idea of what they look like helps the reader picture the character more.

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Post by Blade Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:00 pm

Paul Mac 6CW wrote:Chaos is Gregers E

Blade did you like your match - It was the first one I've written in a long time

 Yeah liked it a lot its showing how frustrating it is for Blade at the moment.
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Post by jeromedubois Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:01 pm

Viper mate is it alright with you if I set a GFX request page mate? Incase people want a character logo like yours and stuff like that. If you have the time of course Smile

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Post by Guest Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:03 pm

I t5hink that puts me off tag teams is when I first come into this with gazzy and Angel I was the tag champion for ever because there was nobody else hahaha

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:06 pm

jeromedubois wrote:Viper mate is it alright with you if I set a GFX request page mate? Incase people want a character logo like yours and stuff like that. If you have the time of course Smile

I'll be honest, I'm happy to do logos but I'd like to see them being used as in EWF people stopped using them and it became clear that the work was in vein, I'm 10000% happy to do the main show logos like weekly shows, PPV's and the main 6CW logo but doing logos for 25 people would be a lot of work only to see them not being used.

Does that make sense?
We can start a new thread though and I can start some 6CW logos if that's needed yet?

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Post by Enforcer Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:09 pm

Paul, I did not realise you were Lex Hart!! Learn something new every day I guess.

ELCs partner was Cain Ryder, my alter ego!

I think a unified world title, hardcore/anarchy and TV/US title would be good.

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Post by jeromedubois Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:09 pm

Will hit you a pm mate Wink

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Post by TheCultOfPersonality Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:09 pm

Jheeze come back from holiday to a very nice suprise. Very nice to see a merge between two companies. Not only does it add a lot of depth to the roster but it makes for a much more active fed as already shown. Although a large roster, I still don't think its time to introduce tag titles to the scene, would give that a few more months however having around 3 singles titles is fine.

Good show by the way guys, really things will only get better from here on out. P.S Viper, like the image mate, real cool idea, definately looks like a blend of Punk & Y2J!

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Post by Guest Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:15 pm

xviperx wrote:
jeromedubois wrote:Viper mate is it alright with you if I set a GFX request page mate? Incase people want a character logo like yours and stuff like that. If you have the time of course Smile

I'll be honest, I'm happy to do logos but I'd like to see them being used as in EWF people stopped using them and it became clear that the work was in vein, I'm 10000% happy to do the main show logos like weekly shows, PPV's and the main 6CW logo but doing logos for 25 people would be a lot of work only to see them not being used.

Does that make sense?
We can start a new thread though and I can start some 6CW logos if that's needed yet?

I didnt realize we were meant to be. I thought they were for the profile pages

shall start using mine in future

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:24 pm

I don't know tbh but I originally thought they'd be used for shows but that didn't happen in the end...me and Dubs are speaking and by the looks of it each star with have his own signature picture like the one I made for Viper instead of a logo to go on the character sheet.

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Post by Enforcer Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:26 pm

Putting my admin hat on, having the sigs at the end of every promo wouldn't be possible as there would be too many images on the page. I know we have relaxed the rules about images being in spoiler tags, but there still needs to be consideration of people using the site in offices.
 
Taking my admin hat off, if every promo had an image I would have to leave the fed as I use it in my office and the images would be far too noticeable!

Edit after Viper's post: Having the image at the top of the Character Sheet would be good though.

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:28 pm

I agree with Enforcer - I like the use of the occasional banner etc but anything that makes it more obvious at work of what I am doing is a no no in my eyes Smile

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:29 pm

Yeah that's what I mean, i was on an efed a few days ago and though it looked cool it got a bit silly have a big signature after every post even if that post just said "lol"

I think the signatures would only ever be used for roster pages so that people could see the face behind the name, would find it much easier to relate to I think.

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:33 pm

We will add it to the list of things for the 3 of us to discuss

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:37 pm

Oh ok, should I hold off on the 6CW and show logo then? Me and Dubs were discussing it but I can wait until things are official.

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Post by Paul Mac 6CW Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:39 pm

I think having a 6CW logo is fine , we will confirm the rest tomorrow

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 1:48 pm

Yeah that's cool, will give people time to think of pic bases if the idea does go ahead. Will come up with some concepts for 6CW logos now.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 29 Jul 2013, 2:06 pm

Adam, create someone and I'm sure we can find a tag team duo there, would certainly ease me having 4 promos to write each week, or at the very least think of 4 new ideas each week cos I can just jump on the back of yours (some would say a complete role reversal of the podcast Wink)

Cant say I see the point in a brand split as of yet because surely that would be just like having the two companies as they are anyway? If its a strain to write a show with 25 odd people in I dont mind doing some stuff on the lower card stuff, I could see myself envisioning some decent lower level feuds to keep people busy

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Post by jeromedubois Mon 29 Jul 2013, 2:20 pm

I think a good question of the day would be:

With the two feds merging into one, who do you see feuding with who?

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Post by Guest Mon 29 Jul 2013, 2:38 pm

gazzy with Max adamson...obvious one for me

I'd say with Phillips I'd be happy to go up against one of the bigger guys like Plague or Orthrus and fight the regime, but thats what id like as opposed to what I think because I honestly don't know

I think the champs are obviously locked into their feuds, but I wouldn't be surprised to see them taking on each others #1 contenders.

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Post by x12x Mon 29 Jul 2013, 2:44 pm

Viper and Nack is an obvious one due to them both wanting to stake their claim as the real world champion...on top of that though we still have number one contenders so they'll get thrown in to the mix as well.

So many possibilities!

Could have a tag match of

Viper & the EWF number one contender v Nack & the 6CW number one contender with the winning tag team then turning in to a singles match for the unified belt.

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