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BT Vision
First topic message reminder :
Have you switched yet?
What have been your experiences?
I want to know if it'll be worthwhile - I'm out in the sticks and currently on Virgin which has for us been [edvery good excellent] so persuading Portnoyova to agree will be difficult. So I need to produce a convincing business plan.
Have you switched yet?
What have been your experiences?
I want to know if it'll be worthwhile - I'm out in the sticks and currently on Virgin which has for us been [ed
Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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Re: BT Vision
Nope you have to compromise as do we.Instead PRL went off and struck a deal that suited them and are now trying to force everyone else to join them.nathan wrote:The French and English teams are clubs but we have to stick to whats best for the others..... and some of you guys have the cheek to call us greedy!asoreleftshoulder wrote:Nope the Irish teams aren't clubs.They are regions and are partly funded by the IRFU so that means the IRFU has a say in any negotiations involving those teams.nathan wrote:as mentioned above, what anyone believes isnt really the point, it IS a club competition.asoreleftshoulder wrote:What you believe isn't really the point.
agh, this has nothing to do with this thread so we should take the discussion elsewhere.
asoreleftshoulder- Posts : 3945
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Re: BT Vision
Have the Virgin XL package now. BT sports seems fairly tidy, commentators aren't too annoying and there isn't much bias as Sky.
Are the commentary team the same for the Avia ?
Are the commentary team the same for the Avia ?
munkian- Posts : 8456
Join date : 2011-04-01
Age : 43
Location : Bristol/The Port
Re: BT Vision
Same as for what? I'm planning on getting it this week for the Rugby show on Wednesday. Also I'm going away so I'll record a few of the games (watching them online afterwards is ok but you lose some of the feeling/atmosphere without the build-up, analysis, etc).
HammerofThunor- Posts : 10471
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Re: BT Vision
Simple question really, is the commentary team the same throughout i.e for T14,Aviva games or is it different ?
munkian- Posts : 8456
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Re: BT Vision
*Bugger just lost reply*
Sorry, wasn't sure what had been on. So you've seen the T14 and wondering if the commentary team would be the same for Aviva?
Probably not. they weren't the same when it was ESPN and it's the same production company. Also with 3 Aviva and T14 games I don't see how they can be the same guys. Previously they had one team that covered both English games as they were on different days. I imagine it'll expand a bit with three (unless they do Friday, Saturday and Sunday games).
Edit: so I dont know
Sorry, wasn't sure what had been on. So you've seen the T14 and wondering if the commentary team would be the same for Aviva?
Probably not. they weren't the same when it was ESPN and it's the same production company. Also with 3 Aviva and T14 games I don't see how they can be the same guys. Previously they had one team that covered both English games as they were on different days. I imagine it'll expand a bit with three (unless they do Friday, Saturday and Sunday games).
Edit: so I dont know
HammerofThunor- Posts : 10471
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Re: BT Vision
You'd have to doubt that as the T14 is contemporaneous with the Jeff.munkian wrote:Simple question really, is the commentary team the same throughout i.e for T14,Aviva games or is it different ?
But you can count whatever blessings when you can:
There will be no Stuart Barnes.
I'm assuming that Healey and Kay will be to the fore on BTS.
Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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Re: BT Vision
Healey ? He'll be choking when North scores then
munkian- Posts : 8456
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Re: BT Vision
I think you'll find that Healey/Kay are pretty even-handed on the telly, munk.
Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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Re: BT Vision
The good thing about the BT deal is that you get the AP and T14, plus you can pick up on the Sky Sports for a month at a time is if you want to watch a particular event on Sky, just add on the package for a month or two, no signing up for 1 year minimum deals.
We are just taking on BT Vision via fibre optic BT package, the whole cost of line, BT vision, BT sport and Fibre optic unlimited broadband is about £33. Plus you get access to their film repository like Netflix, but not as good.
We are just taking on BT Vision via fibre optic BT package, the whole cost of line, BT vision, BT sport and Fibre optic unlimited broadband is about £33. Plus you get access to their film repository like Netflix, but not as good.
WELL-PAST-IT- Posts : 3738
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Re: BT Vision
Well that gobshoite isn't anywhere else.Portnoy's Complaint wrote:I think you'll find that Healey/Kay are pretty even-handed on the telly, munk.
munkian- Posts : 8456
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Re: BT Vision
"Portnoy's Complaint wrote:I think you'll find that Healey/Kay are pretty even-handed on the telly, munk."
That's about the long and the short of it
That's about the long and the short of it
WELL-PAST-IT- Posts : 3738
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Re: BT Vision
The only game on ESPN where I thought Healey and Kay weren't even handed was the Leicester v Australia game. In all other Leicester games they've been good and balanced.
I got a leaflet through about about KC's TV package. Aparantly I can get a recording box for my TV arial and get Freeview. All for just £12 a month on top of my Phone and Broadband.
Bargin
I got a leaflet through about about KC's TV package. Aparantly I can get a recording box for my TV arial and get Freeview. All for just £12 a month on top of my Phone and Broadband.
Bargin
HammerofThunor- Posts : 10471
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Re: BT Vision
I sat down on Wednesday night to watch Rugby Tonight, BT's answer to Sky's Rugby Club. I expected informed analysis and discussion about the forthcoming season. Such content lasted about five minutes. The rest looked like a strange comedy game show mostly consisting of Austin Healey and Matt Dawson competing for the "Cheekie Chappie of the Week award".
Utterly bizarre!
Utterly bizarre!
Exiledinborders- Posts : 1645
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Re: BT Vision
Awful wasn't it? A hopeless concocted hybrid of Top Gear meets Its A Knockout meets [ed too politically correct from (ironically PC)]Football Soccer AM and with the production vales as those would be expected if the One Show was taken over by ITV1.
The so-called explanation of the 'new' scrum laws was painful.
The so-called explanation of the 'new' scrum laws was painful.
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Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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yeah it was pretty bad, i'm hopeful it will be better once the season comes along. Wish they would give a little less time to the games.
Still on the plus side is hasn't got Stuart Barnes on it.
Still on the plus side is hasn't got Stuart Barnes on it.
nathan- Posts : 11033
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Re: BT Vision
Having said that, nathan, The Rugby Club was almost infinitely better this week including Barnes. So have even Sky (fatally late) come to the realisation that the programme has to be improved and refreshed for its for its new, smaller market?
Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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Re: BT Vision
been pretty happy with the build up so far, it's different hearing the players speak whilst warming up.
Its been far better than rugby tonight so far.
Its been far better than rugby tonight so far.
nathan- Posts : 11033
Join date : 2011-06-14
Location : Leicestershire
Re: BT Vision
I think Sky are a touch panicked already Nathan. They took a third off our bill when the wife called up to cancel. Virgin offered to knock more than a third off our phone bill when I rang to tell them I was off to BT.
BT coverage is already far superior to what Sky used to offer.
BT coverage is already far superior to what Sky used to offer.
formerly known as Sam- Posts : 21241
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Location : Leicestershire
Re: BT Vision
https://www.606v2.com/t47871-harlequins-v-northampton-free-to-airmaestegmafia wrote:The prospect of live Premiership rugby games being aired on free-to-air TV appears to have been kicked into touch after it emerged that BT has been unable to agree a deal with broadcasters.
ITV has signed up highlights of the forthcoming rugby Premiership season, but the broadcaster's potential plan to air some games live has waned.
After BT signed the deal, Peter Tom, the chairman of Leicester Tigers rugby club, had said the contract could see some games broadcast live on terrestrial television.
nth- Posts : 115
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Re: BT Vision
Looking at the scheduling they seem to be showing all games involving Bath, Tigers, Saints and Sarries and ignoring the other teams...!
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: BT Vision
Is the schedule posted somewhere maes? Could you paste it up?
Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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Re: BT Vision
Oh FFS you whinge about there being no free to air. That then happens and instead of acknowledging it you whinge about something else.maestegmafia wrote:Looking at the scheduling they seem to be showing all games involving Bath, Tigers, Saints and Sarries and ignoring the other teams...!
LondonTiger- Moderator
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Re: BT Vision
I agree Mae I hope the games that have yet to be announced are more balanced.
I don't get why Sarries get so many games, it's not like they are well supported unlike the other three.
I don't get why Sarries get so many games, it's not like they are well supported unlike the other three.
Scrumpy- Posts : 4217
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Re: BT Vision
Round 2: Quins v Saints, Bath v Leicester, Sarries v GloucesterPortnoy's Complaint wrote:Is the schedule posted somewhere maes? Could you paste it up?
Round 3: Worcester v Quins, Gloucester v Saints, Sarries v Bath
Round 4: Saints v Sale, Quins v Sarries, Chiefs v Tigers
Round 5: Sale v Bath, Leicester v Saints, Gloucester v Chiefs
Round 6: Bath v Gloucester, Saints v Sarries, Wasps v Leicester
Round 7: Warriors v Bath, Tigers v Quins, LI v Saints
http://www.premiershiprugby.com/matchcentre/fixtures/fixtures.php
LondonTiger- Moderator
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Re: BT Vision
So number of home matches televised in first 7 rounds:
Newcastle - 1
Exeter - 1
Sale - 1
London Irish - 2 (1 at twickenham though)
London Wasps -2 (Again 1 at Twickenham)
Worcester - 2
Gloucester - 2
Harlequins - 2
Bath - 2
Northampton - 2
Saracens - 2
Leicester - 3
Newcastle - 1
Exeter - 1
Sale - 1
London Irish - 2 (1 at twickenham though)
London Wasps -2 (Again 1 at Twickenham)
Worcester - 2
Gloucester - 2
Harlequins - 2
Bath - 2
Northampton - 2
Saracens - 2
Leicester - 3
LondonTiger- Moderator
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Re: BT Vision
Ta LT. Unsurprisingly BTS seem to have selected TV games based on box office predictions. The Tigers e.g. will have been featured every weekend in rounds 1-7, [ed]Sale once, Wuss and LI twice. maes has a small point. But what would the paying audience want?
Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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Re: BT Vision
Tigers home match against Falcons is not televised. Other than that they feature most weeks.
BT will ensure that all teams are featured a minimum number of times - but lets face it they are a business so far more likely to show Worcester vs Bath than Worcester vs Sale
BT will ensure that all teams are featured a minimum number of times - but lets face it they are a business so far more likely to show Worcester vs Bath than Worcester vs Sale
LondonTiger- Moderator
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I know SKY were not much better at showing the regularly lower placed clubs but BT promised they were covering everything.Scrumpy wrote:I agree Mae I hope the games that have yet to be announced are more balanced.
I don't get why Sarries get so many games, it's not like they are well supported unlike the other three.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: BT Vision
I am not whinging about anything LTLondonTiger wrote:Oh FFS you whinge about there being no free to air. That then happens and instead of acknowledging it you whinge about something else.maestegmafia wrote:Looking at the scheduling they seem to be showing all games involving Bath, Tigers, Saints and Sarries and ignoring the other teams...!
I am just saying that BT said they were going to provide free to air rugby, then didnt. They also said they were covering all games and now aren't.
Hardly whinging when I have quite clearly stipulated before that this BT deal was going to be no where near as magnanimously wonderful as some posters on here were bragging a few months back...!
Starting to look more and more like the ITV Sport premiership calamity yet again.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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I stand corrected. Tigers v Newcastle is not on the list (so that's a good reason for travelling that day (I hate using up my CO2 allowance so I'll maybe use the train)).LondonTiger wrote:Tigers home match against Falcons is not televised. Other than that they feature most weeks.
BT will ensure that all teams are featured a minimum number of times - but lets face it they are a business so far more likely to show Worcester vs Bath than Worcester vs Sale
On another tack*, Tonight's Rugby magazine programme had better be better than last week's garbage. The have all last week's matches to review, plus next week's to punditise and the EC bombshell to discuss.
Let's hope they'll lose the silliness of the studio games.
2hrs tonight I understand.
* wind power reference
Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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I guess both are technicalities.maestegmafia wrote:I am not whinging about anything LTLondonTiger wrote:Oh FFS you whinge about there being no free to air. That then happens and instead of acknowledging it you whinge about something else.maestegmafia wrote:Looking at the scheduling they seem to be showing all games involving Bath, Tigers, Saints and Sarries and ignoring the other teams...!
I am just saying that BT said they were going to provide free to air rugby, then didnt. They also said they were covering all games and now aren't.
Hardly whinging when I have quite clearly stipulated before that this BT deal was going to be no where near as magnanimously wonderful as some posters on here were bragging a few months back...!
Starting to look more and more like the ITV Sport premiership calamity yet again.
It may not technically be free-to-air as it is a subscription package, however it is a sunscription package that is being given away 'free' to a large number of people (I would hazard a guess that probably over 50% of people with BTSport are getting it free with their tinterweb).
Also they are the only ones showing the Jeff, so I guess they do have access to all the Jeff games, it is just that they are picking which ones are best to televise.
ScarletSpiderman- Posts : 9944
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Re: BT Vision
Could I point out, again, that this Fridays match is Free-to-air. They are doing what they said. There will be some more.
they never said they would have live coverage of all matches. but that all matches would have some coverage.
they have done exactly what they said.
they never said they would have live coverage of all matches. but that all matches would have some coverage.
they have done exactly what they said.
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#LondonBTiger
munkian- Posts : 8456
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Re: BT Vision
I wish.munkian wrote:#LondonBTiger
I do hate Sky/NewsCorp though, so I am not impartial.
LondonTiger- Moderator
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What's this now? Free to air? Or bundled with a product that some people have and others don't. i.e not free.LondonTiger wrote:Could I point out, again, that this Fridays match is Free-to-air. They are doing what they said. There will be some more.
they never said they would have live coverage of all matches. but that all matches would have some coverage.
they have done exactly what they said.
Jenifer McLadyboy- Posts : 4764
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Re: BT Vision
Free to everyone
http://www.premiershiprugby.com/m/news/28778.php
http://www.premiershiprugby.com/m/news/28778.php
broadlandboy- Posts : 1153
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Re: BT Vision
Now it makes sense why BTSport 1 & 2 are on freeview as encrypted channels, so they can occationally do like SKy did and give the goodies away once in a while for free, in the hopes of netting some more contracts etc. Not a bad idea at all.
ScarletSpiderman- Posts : 9944
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No SS, you have go it all wrong... BT Vision love rugby and want to spread that love to a wider audience.ScarletSpiderman wrote:Now it makes sense why BTSport 1 & 2 are on freeview as encrypted channels, so they can occationally do like SKy did and give the goodies away once in a while for free, in the hopes of netting some more contracts etc. Not a bad idea at all.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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Re: BT Vision
Maes it is spreading to a wider audience than when it was on Sky, as people I know who love rugby switched to bt (or got it free with tinterweb) and people who just watch sport, and have BT, are starting to talk about the T14 and Jeff now.
ScarletSpiderman- Posts : 9944
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That just reinforces that it was never a commercial decision.ScarletSpiderman wrote:Maes it is spreading to a wider audience than when it was on Sky, as people I know who love rugby switched to bt (or got it free with tinterweb) and people who just watch sport, and have BT, are starting to talk about the T14 and Jeff now.
maestegmafia- Posts : 23145
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A company doing something to increase profit ? For shame BT, for shame...maestegmafia wrote:That just reinforces that it was never a commercial decision.ScarletSpiderman wrote:Maes it is spreading to a wider audience than when it was on Sky, as people I know who love rugby switched to bt (or got it free with tinterweb) and people who just watch sport, and have BT, are starting to talk about the T14 and Jeff now.
munkian- Posts : 8456
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Re: BT Vision
Too true. I have no problems with BT having the Jeff/T14, and even the HEC (or whatever), after all they were/are pay to view competitons now, but BT having them and giving BTSport our free to existing/new internet contracts means that it is win win for them, they get the rugby fans sign up for it, and also win over nuetrals who have BT Broadband. Also for my point of view it is good, as I couldn't afford to get Sky, but had BT Broadband anyhow, so I get something i want for sod all extrabroadlandboy wrote:SS/Maes
Both are not mutually exclusive
ScarletSpiderman- Posts : 9944
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Re: BT Vision
Yes I was suckered in by the drip drip of publicity mailings arriving on my doormat with brochure photos of Tuilagi running with ball in hand.ScarletSpiderman wrote:Too true. I have no problems with BT having the Jeff/T14, and even the HEC (or whatever), after all they were/are pay to view competitons now, but BT having them and giving BTSport our free to existing/new internet contracts means that it is win win for them, they get the rugby fans sign up for it, and also win over nuetrals who have BT Broadband. Also for my point of view it is good, as I couldn't afford to get Sky, but had BT Broadband anyhow, so I get something i want for sod all extrabroadlandboy wrote:SS/Maes
Both are not mutually exclusive
Plus my old BB router is a bit naff, plus the new package should be cheaper than TalkTalk + 02 combo.
So I took the plunge, ran off TalkTalk and 02 and signed up with BT. My new router / new service is scheduled for 24th.
I live in sleepy hollow in the Cotswolds, so do not have great confidence in the copper wire capacity to the house.
Still if the BT vid streaming to the house actually works, I shall count that as a bonus.
gregortree- Posts : 3676
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Re: BT Vision
I must admit I went for BT broadband just to get the new show and pretty happy with the coverage.
I also find 'Rugby Tonight' quite entertaining - although a bit too long
I also find 'Rugby Tonight' quite entertaining - although a bit too long
GavinDragon- Posts : 2574
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Re: BT Vision
Can't see them on freesat unless I am missing something (quite possible) Back to match replays on the AP site thenbroadlandboy wrote:Free to everyone
http://www.premiershiprugby.com/m/news/28778.php
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Re: BT Vision
Not having freesat, I wouldn't know. But just guessing, would it be like digital radio when you have to do a rescan to pick up new stations?
Portnoy's Complaint- Posts : 3498
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Re: BT Vision
I think they have ESPNs slots. So if you could see ESPN last season, good. If not........lostinwales wrote:Can't see them on freesat unless I am missing something (quite possible) Back to match replays on the AP site thenbroadlandboy wrote:Free to everyone
http://www.premiershiprugby.com/m/news/28778.php
Jenifer McLadyboy- Posts : 4764
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Re: BT Vision
Thanks for the pointers I'll have another look. In theory it automatically rescans every night but like so much else thats 'in theory'
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