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Post by Fluxy Fri 13 May 2011, 5:53 pm

First topic message reminder :

Biarritz Olympique

Captain - Sam Warburton
Vice Captain - Sergio Parisse

Assistant Head Coach - Steve Hansen
Fowards Coach - Jim Telfer
Backs Coach - Jim Mallinder


Funds - £2m

Fixtures :

Starting team


01. Fabien Barcella09. Ruan Pienaar16. Campbell Johnstone
02. Kevin Mealamu10. Jonny Sexton (K) 17. Eduard Coeztee
03. Owen Franks18. Benoit August
04. Patricio Albacete11. Tommy Bowe19. Jerome Thion
05. Manuel Carriza12. Sonny Bill Williams
06. Juan Smith 13. Robbie Freaun20. Tadzuka Nqwenya
07. Sam Warburton(C)14. George North21. Marcelo Bosch
08. Sergio Parisse15. Iain Balshaw 22. Alesana Tuilagi


Hookers

Kevin Mealamu (NZL)
Benoit August (FRA)

Props

LH/TH Fabien Barcella (FRA)
TH/LH Owen Franks (NZL)
TH Campbell Johnstone (NZL)
TH Eduard Coeztee (RSA)

Locks

Manuel Carriza (ARG)
Jerome Thion (FRA)
Patricio Albacete (ARG)

Back Row

Sam Warburton (WAL)
Sergio Parisse (ITA)
Juan Smith (RSA)
Talalelei Gray (AUS)

Half backs

Ruan Pienaar (RSA)
Kahn Fotuali (SAM)
Jean-Pascal Barraque (FRA)
Jonny Sexton (IRL)

Centers

Sonny Bill Williams (NZL)
Robbie Freaun (NZL)
Marcelo Bosch (ARG)

Wings

Takudzwa Ngwenya (USA)
George North (WAL)
Tommy Bowe (IRL)
Alesana Tuilagi (SAM)

Full Back

Iain Balshaw (ENG)

Utility Backs


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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 02 Jun 2011, 3:48 pm

I have HOre so hartley may be an option but in honesty I think i may deal with driver and get butch james coming my way . . .

what ever you think but you might have to be quick
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sorry!!

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 02 Jun 2011, 4:41 pm

Hartley & Myler
for
Wilkinson & £7 mil


what about something like that?

inquiry only at the moment?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 02 Jun 2011, 7:36 pm

nah not interested in doing slade or franks - have a deal on for franks already

thought you said you were interested in Hartley?

I htink thats a decent offer above?

wilko + £7mil
for
Hartley + Myler

is it not?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 02 Jun 2011, 7:41 pm

you change your mind more than a woman!!

earlier you were saying that harltey, mooj, traille were all dealable hahah Smile

make your mind up Wink

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 02 Jun 2011, 7:42 pm

sorry my mistake you quoted:


It doesn't have to be Franks, I'd consider Hartley, Traille Habana, And Hari.

Smile

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 02 Jun 2011, 7:46 pm

and lets face it yo udo need another hooker - as much as I like pieter (the hills have eyes) dixon - being a bath fan - he's not rated highly on here. Shame good player.

I am willing to do Hartley or possibly Hore in that deal but htat would be it only

hartley & myler
wilko £7

but that is about the only one for now unless stuff changes soon.
no probs if your not interested.

Cheers

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Thu 02 Jun 2011, 7:49 pm

cool no probs mate Smile

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Post by CJB Fri 03 Jun 2011, 1:08 pm

Kaino >(>)
Whitelock >
Beattie < Lobbe
Sheridan = Jenkins (Mixed ratings)

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 1:10 pm

Not by a long long way. Massivley overrated player, you've been watching too much Rugby club.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 1:22 pm

You are kidding me? Botha is the best front jumper in his generation...that's why him and Mats work so well. In a lineout you generally have a big unit at the front to give you a short banker ball.

Top front jumpers....bakkies, Hines, DOC, Deacon.

You then have a middle option, usually the guy who makes the calls and is lighter so he can be thrown up to take the ball at it's highest point.

Middle jumpers - Matfield, POC, Kellock, Sharpe

You then generally have a rear option. Usually a back row player, 6/8.

Backrow - Juan Smith, Easter, Harinord etc.

Bakkies is the best front jumper about due mainly to his physicality and not getting put off the jump.

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Post by CJB Fri 03 Jun 2011, 1:24 pm

Think Whitelock is easily >

And Jenkins seems to get mixed reviews. Some rate him > some < .

I don't like Roberts at OC

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 1:32 pm

Your a lineout expert but you don't think Bakkies is good there....

And you think Croft is the best about.....


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 1:43 pm

I must have misunderstood:

"Would you not say Croft is the best front man jumper at the moment?"

"bakkies isn't known for his lineout work"

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:27 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I must have misunderstood:

"Would you not say Croft is the best front man jumper at the moment?"


Hari by far they guy is a fecking salmon

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:47 pm

Hari is a middle/back jumper....

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:52 pm

except for when he's at the front

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:56 pm

Not seen Hari jump much at the front if at all in a full line out. Mostly at the back or occasional middle.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 03 Jun 2011, 3:59 pm

mate he jumps where ever needed! tactics do allow you to move about a bit and it is encouraged in the game Wink


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Post by Sgt_Pooly Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:06 pm

Ok... Whistle

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Fri 03 Jun 2011, 4:07 pm

lol Wink

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 03 Jun 2011, 7:01 pm

Jenkins + Bonnaire + Williams
=
Woodcock + Brown + Guildford

All my players are rated better, Woodcock was in most people's top two for best loosehead prop I see, Brown has got some very good ratings with of course the world class players ahead of him, Guildford is better than Williams at this present time.

Jenkins & Palmer & Lobbe
4
Woodcock & Williams & McCalman

Woodcock better than Jenkins, Palmer better than Ali Williams, you seem to like McCalman and Lobbe and young McCalman are about evens on most people's lists.

What about that?

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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 03 Jun 2011, 7:38 pm

Jenkins + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts
=
Woodcock + Brown + Guildford + Evans

It's the same deal but with an added on gain for me, it's just one gain for me and three for you, in my personal opinion I rate Woodcock, Brown and Guildford higher than Jenkins, Bonnaire and Williams, Roberts for Evans is good but Roberts isn't a natural outside centre.

Im really looking at lock and centre, with the locks I have I don't think a deal for Lawes would be possible, Palmer on the other hand I might well get something. Roberts or De Villiers for Donald or Lambie is the only part I could do.

Palmer & De Villiers & Jenkins & Bonnaire
4
Williams & Lambie & Woodcock & Brown

Not thought on that properly it is only a thought.
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Post by GloucesterBear Fri 03 Jun 2011, 10:59 pm

Skrela + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts + Kirchener
=
Lambie + Brown + Guildford + Davies + Poitrenaud

Your just getting it all wrong, look at the ratings that is what im going by and my own personal feeling. I would need gains and out of all of them I only see one.

Im really sorry you have to cut it down to two, maybe something like this.

De Villiers & Jenkins
4
Lambie & Woodcock

Better possibly? - Thank you
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Post by prop_lyd Sun 05 Jun 2011, 12:09 am

sorry bud, not really for me
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Post by prop_lyd Sun 05 Jun 2011, 10:18 am

Not sure because the out of that deal i'd see:

Ross>Cole
Ferris=Bonnaire
Earls>Roberts (on current form)
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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 10:55 am

anything for ayerza? looking to tweak my team and improve back ups

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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 12:21 pm

It's a very good start mate, but looking for a fourth prop and keeping Stevens as third.

How about the last two parts of the deal?

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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 1:02 pm

Skrela + Lawes + Ansbro
4
Goode + AWJ + Kahui

How about that? Would have to be on thursday though probably, as Fourie is injured, as is Skrela

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Post by GloucesterBear Sun 05 Jun 2011, 1:06 pm

De Villiers & Jenkins
4
Lambie & Woodcock

Whistle
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Post by GloucesterBear Sun 05 Jun 2011, 1:44 pm

I don't see any rejection of that, you gave me a load of deals I really wasn't keen on so I cut it down, so I gain one player and you gain one player.

Woodcock was in everyone's top two loosehead prop, while Jenkins was around 4th,5th.
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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 2:30 pm

Can't lose Lawes sorry. Hoe about;

Ansbro + Kirchener + Skrela + Palmer + ayerza
=
Kahui + Halfpenny + Goode + thion + parr

Already said that I'm trying to add to my props, not losing my big three.

Really need laws, but could maybe settle for Palmer

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Post by GloucesterBear Sun 05 Jun 2011, 3:51 pm

Your deals are pretty worse than mine, you gave me four to five players all in favour for you.

While I give you a player up on Jenkins in Woodcock, after all he got voted best loosehead prop on the World team selection and in top two of everyone's top loosehead props.

What about then.

Jenkins & De Villiers & Lobbe
4
Woodcock & Donald & McCalman

Better?
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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 7:59 pm

Ansbro + Kirchener + Skrela + ayerza
=
Kahui + Halfpenny + Goode + parr

----

So are we saying this deal now? If so, i do need a little more without palmer/lawes coming and skrela out injured.

Didn't even think about the combo mate, sorry about that.

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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 8:06 pm

Thats not a gain mate!

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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 8:18 pm

In the fast lane's top 20 from the other day.

Wingers
1 James O’Connor
2 Cory Jane
3 Drew Mitchell
4 Maxime Medard
5 Hosea Gear
6 Tommy Bowe
7 Chris Ashton
8 Sitiveni Sivivatu
9 Vincent Clerc
10 Bryan Habanna
11 Sean Maitland
12 Leigh Halfpenny
13 Digby Ioane
14 Zack Guildford
15 JP Pietersen
16 Mark Cueto
17 Lachie Turner
18 Julien Malzieu
19 Rene Ranger
20 Luke Fitzgerald

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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 8:20 pm

FDP/Cowan or Lobbe/Waldrom?

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Sun 05 Jun 2011, 8:46 pm

mate very tentative inquiry - what would your thoughts be on this:

Owen Franks & Myler
for
Cole & Wilkinson

??

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Sun 05 Jun 2011, 9:53 pm

hey Fluxy.

Sorry bud don't see any gain there as Franks is far better adn there wouldn't be much in Hook & Contepomi for me.

I think that last offer was a decent one! have a think.

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Sun 05 Jun 2011, 9:58 pm

pants - your having a laugh!

Your offer was pants!

And I offered Roberts not Hook?

Roberts, well thats even worse, he's done nothing since his lions tour.

no thanks

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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Sun 05 Jun 2011, 10:04 pm

Wilkinson >> Myler
Cole << Franks

mate its a gain both ways it's not pants and myler is no slouch, over 1000 points and over 100 caps for saints, averaging over 10 points a match for the saxons. Only kept out of the Elite squad because of Wilko & flood - he's not to be sniffed at.


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Post by BANAFAN-AKA-HON Sun 05 Jun 2011, 10:07 pm

now thats a sensible response as opposed to your offer is pants.
ok cool - no probs.

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Post by GloucesterBear Sun 05 Jun 2011, 11:25 pm

I don't want to lose JDV for a FH!

You need to sort your deals out because they are worse than mine.

Sorry to say

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Post by Bathite Sun 05 Jun 2011, 11:58 pm

Dunno, where are we?

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Post by GloucesterBear Mon 06 Jun 2011, 1:02 am

No you are mistaken you came with this first.

Jenkins + Bonnaire + Williams
=
Woodcock + Brown + Guildford

Then this.
Skrela + Bonnaire + Williams + Roberts + Kirchener
=
Lambie + Brown + Guildford + Davies + Poitrenaud

The top deal started it all off and it just got worse and worse.
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Post by Bathite Mon 06 Jun 2011, 8:05 am

Morning, Im going to have a good think about that deal mate. Firstly though, it definately can't go through until thursday. At first glances, maybe remove the skrela and kirchner bits. Not sure I need skrela, although a good player and minus the kirchner takes a gain away from both sides to level it up

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Post by Bathite Mon 06 Jun 2011, 9:05 pm

I just can't get too excited about it mate, gains to both sides, but I like Kahui and halfpenny alot. All but one of the gains are to back up players. Anything for cole, that doesn't include kub/steen/Stevens?

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Post by Bathite Mon 06 Jun 2011, 9:17 pm

Ripping apart your team? Only Palmer starts! I have 5props, but only three are good, want a forth

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Post by CJB Mon 06 Jun 2011, 10:02 pm

Your second row slightly better than mine
But it doesn't get near to countering losing Kaino 4 Bonnaire mate. Sorry

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Post by CJB Mon 06 Jun 2011, 10:05 pm

You have and I mentioned the amount of mixed ratings. Some don't rate Jenkins because of injury and others seem to not be sure about these two so would rather not risk it.

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Post by CJB Mon 06 Jun 2011, 10:15 pm

At 13 I think Marty is better.

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