Taxi for O'Shea

Utterly clueless and deluded. So bad even London Irish wouldn't have him back

That's what I like about you Trev, glass always half full!   

Three trophies in three years, that's bloody awful. Get rid of him

It could just be that Scarlets are a good team?

Na - we all know that al Rabo teams are rubbish  

TJ wrote:Na - we all know that al Rabo teams are rubbish  

Or too good as a result of their endless riches and easy games...

Joking apart Quins aren't doing too well currently but it's easy to forget that they've lost a couple of players and don't have the finances of Sarries or a French club to replace them, the Paul Sackey signing was interesting and it seems a lot of their experienced players are going over the hill and a lot of their key players off form. This happens in rugby and cannot be blamed solely on the coach.

Been great for the pro12 clubs so far. Horrific for the English ones.

In regards to Quins they are very low on confidence at the moment. Someone needs to take responsibility and kick them up the backside. Easier said than done but Quins have players that should be experienced enough to galvanise the rest. E.g. Robshaw, Brown,Care and Easter.

Deano put the quins side that won the Prem together. COS took the glory and hasn't backed it up. And anyone that thinks that the LV cup is anything to shout about is deluded. Time for him to do the decent thing and go.

did COS drop you on your head when you were a baby? you seem to have something against the guy.

I would suggest Trevor40 and Logansrun get together, but then Trevor wouldn't have got past Trevor30! It's a shame you joined the forum after he left...  

I seem to recall Scarlets doing this to Northampton a few seasons ago, so I wouldn't get too carried away by the result, disappointing as it is.

Surely Trevor40 is logansrun?

CoS is a lame duck. Time for him to go and take John (another taxi to) Kingston, Mark Maple 'soft in the head' and Tony Dipstick.

Quins aren't playing particularly well, but logansruns, ahem, "spiritual successor" Trevor is both tedious and amusing in equal measure in his one-track obsession with their rubbishness!

They are on the slide, but there are still worse teams out there. Maybe Quins will get it together soon, eh Trev?

Taxi for O'shea Why?

Every team has an off day, and today was an off day for Quins and O'Shea.

It is early on in the season, all the players are maybe a bit rusty.

You can't blame rustiness now Madge, sorry. The Turks were just a bit good today. Hopefully Priestland can take that form into the AIs.

Scarlets were good, but Quins were also quite bad. Bad in terms of the error count and bad in terms of their defence and letting Scarlets make too many easy yards- if you let them run at you, they will run at you. Not that that legitimizes this serial wummery! You don't become a bad team overnight but Quins are in a rut right now and O'Shea will need to find a way to turn the tide.

The Scarlets scored some cracking tries in fairness and Quins can't compete with the top teams in wages.

Majesticimperialman it's not just a bad day at the office. Quins have struggled a bit for confidence - including the end of last season. Quins should not be losing at home as regularly as they have been.

I think O Shea needs time to sort out the problems but if he can't his job should be under threat.

Have to be fair to Scarlets.  They played some real nice dynamic attacking Rugby, which, as a neutral, was enjoyable to watch.  Scoreline could have been bigger.

That said, Quins hung in, as one would have expected.  But they have started the season poorly, with 2 wins and three losses in the Premiership.  The two wins were a thrashing of Worcester and slipping by Wasps by 1 point.  One of the losses was to London Irish.  

So I think we had two things happen on Saturday, Scarlets playing really good and Quins fighting their recent form.  

By the way, on TV it seemed the match was not a sell out.  Does anyone know if that was true?  It would be a huge surprise to me if it was not sold out.  It I was in London, I would have gone.

From reading the Quns message board on sportnetwork it was far from a sell out. It would appear that Quins priced a lot of people out and they voted with their feet. the fans also appear to be unhappy with the clubs whole marketing strategy, as well as some discontent with the coaching set up.

I get the pricing point, which is huge.
But I don't know anything about the Marketing. What's going on?

http://www.rugbynetwork.net/boards/read/s98.htm?100,14377202
http://www.rugbynetwork.net/boards/read/s98.htm?100,14375937

These may shed some light. I think they have a new CEO who has changed things, like season ticket holders are now 'members' but for some reason cannot go in the members bar.

Jeez,
No idea people were so incensed. Although its a fan board and should be viewed in that light. it still seems for those posts things have changed radically. Hope not too many people are alienated.

Quins are relegation fodder at the moment. Time for COS to stop just blaming the players. He makes Steve Diamond look humble. He got lucky in a World Cup year and isn't smart enough to back it up or admit he is wrong. No place in sport for misguided egos like that.

Still, at least they played better than Cardiff did today!M

I suppose we will have to see how the season progresses, but I find it hard to view them as being part of the relegation race. Too much quality. Additionally, I think O'Shea has been a good coach and I think he/they will right the ship.

i'm keeping the faith. this isnt football. i dont want to see coaches thrown away because of a few unhappy fans or embittered posters. i dont think they'll get relegated either.

Been poor since winning the Prem. Going backwards is not acceptable and neither are some of the pathetic excuses posted on here or CAW.

quinsforever wrote:i'm keeping the faith. this isnt football. i dont want to see coaches thrown away because of a few unhappy fans or embittered posters. i dont think they'll get relegated either.

I agree

Quins current fortunes have a lot to do with the ineffectiveness of their backrow. Easter looks past it but it is Robshaw who was deflated by missing the Lions and is a shadow of the player he was.

If you think it's just their back row then you have no idea about rugby.

Trevor40 wrote:If you think it's just their back row then you have no idea about rugby.

 

Shouldn't you should be following the yellow brick road!!

123456789 wrote:

TJ wrote:Na - we all know that al Rabo teams are rubbish  

Or too good as a result of their endless riches and easy games...

Joking apart Quins aren't doing too well currently but it's easy to forget that they've lost a couple of players and don't have the finances of Sarries or a French club to replace them, the Paul Sackey signing was interesting and it seems a lot of their experienced players are going over the hill and a lot of their key players off form. This happens in rugby and cannot be blamed solely on the coach.

Don't gave the finances of salaries!? Utterly irrelevant with a salary cap. Quins problem is they've wasted a fortunate on has beens like Evans and Fat boy Easter and past it journeymen like JTH, Monye, Wliiams and Robson. Robshaw is utterly ineffective too.

Who needs an *rsehole when you can borrow one from 606v2m

Oh dear, so you're wrong AND you start with the insults. How sad and pathetic.

Trevor40 wrote:Oh dear, so you're wrong AND you start with the insults. How sad and pathetic.

 

This guy is quality.

To be fair I actually agree with Trevor that Quins should not make any excuses in regards to the salary cap. It's the coaches and players to blame.

Quins should persevere with O Shea but he needs to need to re think things. Losing at home should not be this regular. With Racing Metro and Clermont also in their HC group things are not going to get easier.

I suspect coaching has a lot to do with it. are they playing as less than the sum of their parts? if so coaching must be a large part of this.

TJ it's a mix of both players and coaching. Not sure that Quins have the best personnel for their gameplan.

For a high tempo, offloading game surely two rapid wingers would be ideal - though Monye and Williams are workman like they are not exactly going to frighten defences.

Walker on the other hand I think would fit the bill much more effectively at least on one wing.

Let's not forget that Nick Easter is 35 to try rely on him in an high tempo offloading game when he has the brain and hands but not the pace is not right.

Also I believe Quins should be playing Sinckler more. He's been billed as the next big thing to come from Quins yet can't get a start.

The coaches are completely out of their depth. COS achieved nothing at LI and the rest of them have nothing but failure on this CVs.

Blimey, who is this negative Trevor character?

logansrun, if you remember him.

Ah yes, I remember now

If you can wipe away the froth from his chin for a minute he does make a couple of interesting points.

Please correct me if I am wrong but the year the Quins won the league they had virtually no international representation compared to teams such as Saracens, Saints, Bath & Gloucester et al, so it is a massive boost to have your 1st choice available for most of the year.

Purely from my one eyed perspective as a Tiger fan, in comparison we were missing 17 players (or there abouts) due to injury and internationals and had a horrible first half of the year. We finished strongly when we got the players back and set a new record for back to back bonus points wins to make the final. But once there is was clearly obvious we were knackered and broke ourselves getting there as Quins ran rings around us that day.

The big breakthrough into the England set up followed under Lancaster and Quins were shorn of there stars for much of the season. Thus an early exit from the playoffs and an "average" season followed.

Quins seriously lack any strength in depth to cover these gaps and absences and to the casual observer it doesn't look like COS has done anything to improve this or bring in new blood. It is basically the same team as 3 years ago.

Is this COS fault.... or is he like many managers being unfairly criticised for not being able to do much with the limited budget he was given?

My identity is irrelevant for I am the bringer of truth and vanquisher of stupidity. My message has been clear and CORRECT for over a year now. Quins are rubbish and will be until they get some decent players and a DOR who doesn't have sh1t for brains.

Actually, if you admit to being a reincarnation of a banned poster, implicit by being around for over a year when Trevor 40 clearly has not on this forum, then your identity is important, so I might edit that if I were you

Metal Tiger true it was during world cup year. Quins were one of the teams that missed the least amount of players. It was how they built up their run of wins in my opinion.

My own side won the AP when we went early out of the HC and didn't have many international commitments. It helps not fighting on two or even three fronts.

You are right. Quins do not have a deep squad but they have also been unfortunate in where the injuries have come. Losing PDJ and Kennedy are big blows to a team that had already lost Johnston and Kohn.

Quins are meant to be well known for their academy but none of the academy boys have really stood out for me this season.

Perhaps I am just being very harsh - I do hope Quins sort it out.

Losing the excellent ceo Mark Evans might have had an impact too.

I take many forms my multicolored friend.

Taxi for O'Shea?

Hmmm, whatever you do, don't give him enough to hire a taxi all the way back to Ireland.

He's made his bed, and has been quite liberal in the tongue about that bed.... let him lie in it now when the bed-bugs bite