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Rory Mac sues Horizon
...apparently he was unhappy with the amount of commission taken by said sports management company, said to be £4.7 million.
This combined with the recent dissolution of 'Wozzilroy', one of sport's foremost power-couples, should ensure that midgetmac's game will stay in the doldrums for some time.
What do you make of Rory's most recent distractions?
This combined with the recent dissolution of 'Wozzilroy', one of sport's foremost power-couples, should ensure that midgetmac's game will stay in the doldrums for some time.
What do you make of Rory's most recent distractions?
incontinentia- Posts : 3977
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The fact that he let himself screw by his former management company can only be blamed on himself. Fool. Reminds one of Michael Jackson. Let it go Rory, you ridicule yourself. And then call Vijay.
Let's see about Wozzilroy, whether they've actually split. But no doubt it's complicated when you and your partner both travel the world. Then the old TW style sounds a bit less complicated.
Let's see about Wozzilroy, whether they've actually split. But no doubt it's complicated when you and your partner both travel the world. Then the old TW style sounds a bit less complicated.
pedro- Posts : 7353
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Rory is not fit to use the Mac name.
Please do not use it when referring to him.
Please do not use it when referring to him.
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Just heard that Rory will earn £31,000 per day for the next 10 years just for the Nike deal alone. No wonder that Caroline is so upset
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Pube head is obviously a complete pap.
His golf game is in tatters and he's chasing a fairly niggardly amount by his standards.
Why not just forget it and try and become the player he once was. Tatty munching idiot.
His golf game is in tatters and he's chasing a fairly niggardly amount by his standards.
Why not just forget it and try and become the player he once was. Tatty munching idiot.
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agreed SR. big picture its not that much to him. just write if off to experience. he isnt dong much for his rep but taking back a charitable donation either. I'd be very very surprised if Conor Ridge's Contract wasn't water tight also.
He's gonna have this hanging over him for another year now so heres another excuse to forget about his golf game for another year. It's likely he won't be a top 50 player at the end of the year at the 2014 at this rate
He's gonna have this hanging over him for another year now so heres another excuse to forget about his golf game for another year. It's likely he won't be a top 50 player at the end of the year at the 2014 at this rate
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Doesn't like the original Girlfriend.
Doesn't like Chubby & the Boys
Doesn't feel "Irish"
Doesn't like the Ryder Cup (then "loves" it)
Doesn't like his old clubs
Doesn't like the European Tour......then wants to play more in Europe...........then wants to play more in US again
Doesn't like Horizon anymore
Doesn't like Caroline anymore
Doesn't like agent commission
Doesn't seem to understand percentages
He might end up not liking judges.
Doesn't like Chubby & the Boys
Doesn't feel "Irish"
Doesn't like the Ryder Cup (then "loves" it)
Doesn't like his old clubs
Doesn't like the European Tour......then wants to play more in Europe...........then wants to play more in US again
Doesn't like Horizon anymore
Doesn't like Caroline anymore
Doesn't like agent commission
Doesn't seem to understand percentages
He might end up not liking judges.
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Who will drop out the top 200 first. Paddy Harrington or pube head?
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Cyclops obviously. Pube head could play very badly by his standards and still stay comfortably within the top 50.
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Shows the shortcomings of the ranking system doesn't it? You can stink the house out for an entire year and still be ahead in and around the same ranking as guys who have played exceptionally over a calendar year like Stenson and Mickelson.
Time for 1 year rankings. Who gives a toss what you did 2 years ago?
Time for 1 year rankings. Who gives a toss what you did 2 years ago?
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Inland Revenue do!
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Ha ha.super_realist wrote:Pube head is obviously a complete pap.
His golf game is in tatters and he's chasing a fairly niggardly amount by his standards.
Why not just forget it and try and become the player he once was. Tatty munching idiot.
That sums you up SR.
Insult someone then run.
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Not a big fan myself though.
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Surely Rory knew what he was signing up to. Even if his maths means percentages are a mystery he's got mates that are with them/family to look at things/previous deals to compare to.
From the outside it seems dubious that Horizon would do anything other that what it was contractually entitled to. Whilst I have sympathy with the naivety of youth it's not the first management contract he's had and he does recognise he's one of the highest earners in golf already.
What do you reckon the root cause is, something as simple as % of gross earnings versus % of earnings net of tax? That would add up to millions over the term of the relationship.
From the outside it seems dubious that Horizon would do anything other that what it was contractually entitled to. Whilst I have sympathy with the naivety of youth it's not the first management contract he's had and he does recognise he's one of the highest earners in golf already.
What do you reckon the root cause is, something as simple as % of gross earnings versus % of earnings net of tax? That would add up to millions over the term of the relationship.
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McIlroy has demonstrated for years how stupid and naive he is. Any management company would have to be equally stupid not to cash in on his lack of intelligence and business acumen.
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I have to agree with this assessment. McIlroy does some spectacularly dumb arsed.super_realist wrote:McIlroy has demonstrated for years how stupid and naive he is. Any management company would have to be equally stupid not to cash in on his lack of intelligence and business acumen.
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Luke Donald seems the only recent #1 with a brain in his head.McLaren wrote:I have to agree with this assessment. McIlroy does some spectacularly dumb arsed.super_realist wrote:McIlroy has demonstrated for years how stupid and naive he is. Any management company would have to be equally stupid not to cash in on his lack of intelligence and business acumen.
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Donald completed and passed his college course (ie the academic bit!) didn't he?
Did Woods or did he swan off to the billions of dollars in the pro game/endorsements before graduating?
Probably one for the expats - how does a US college degree compare to a British university one? (Not that I have either!)
Did Woods or did he swan off to the billions of dollars in the pro game/endorsements before graduating?
Probably one for the expats - how does a US college degree compare to a British university one? (Not that I have either!)
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i thought Kaymer came across as quite clever until he Changed his swing while number 1!
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No degree for Woods - he left early, as many do.
Would think comparing British degrees with American degrees is a very difficult one. Northwestern, where Luke graduated from (and Matt Fitzpatrick is starting at) is very selective, as is Stanford where Woods and McEnroe went, albeit without earning a degree, and Duke (Joe Ogilvie - widely regarded as Commish-of-the-future - and Streelman).
Others, such as Oklahoma State (Fowler, Mahan, HowellIII) have little or no academic credibility for their "student athletes", many of whom seem, according to Sports Illustrated, to be pampered with freely available supplies of no-show jobs, readily available sex, and advisors sorting out grades for them when they miss classes.
Doubt that happens at Stirling, for instance.
Would think comparing British degrees with American degrees is a very difficult one. Northwestern, where Luke graduated from (and Matt Fitzpatrick is starting at) is very selective, as is Stanford where Woods and McEnroe went, albeit without earning a degree, and Duke (Joe Ogilvie - widely regarded as Commish-of-the-future - and Streelman).
Others, such as Oklahoma State (Fowler, Mahan, HowellIII) have little or no academic credibility for their "student athletes", many of whom seem, according to Sports Illustrated, to be pampered with freely available supplies of no-show jobs, readily available sex, and advisors sorting out grades for them when they miss classes.
Doubt that happens at Stirling, for instance.
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Depends what you study and where, some places in America you get credits for going to Church!!!!Roller_Coaster wrote:Donald completed and passed his college course (ie the academic bit!) didn't he?
Did Woods or did he swan off to the billions of dollars in the pro game/endorsements before graduating?
Probably one for the expats - how does a US college degree compare to a British university one? (Not that I have either!)
Basically though Uni is as difficult as you want it to be. If you choose engineering/physics etc it's going to be difficult either side of the Atlantic, however if you study History or Art History it's never going to be taxing regardless of where you are.
Regardless, a degree doesn't make you bright, you can still be a moron with or without one.
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As you prove on a daily basis Super.
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Appreciate what you do and where you do it varies wildly both sides, although credits for going to church would be beyond me!
Agree degrees don't make you bright too, I started but hated it (bloody students everywhere!) and took the conscious decision to jack it early and get 3 years experience in the business world instead. Looking back I think I got it right. The banking, insurance, captive insurance and fund industry experience in a number of roles has (I think) left me pretty well versed in the financial services side. Shame that so many opportunities these days demand a degree (regardless of subject!) before you can get in the door to prove you're at least as good. Bit cliched but the university of life gives you a good grounding. Perhaps vital if you're going to develop a career based on your degree (law & medicine the prime examples) but IMO not so important if you have the aptitude and can ably demonstrate.
Sure we all know degree holders we think are idiots, but think I am more than capable of proving my idiocy without one...
Agree degrees don't make you bright too, I started but hated it (bloody students everywhere!) and took the conscious decision to jack it early and get 3 years experience in the business world instead. Looking back I think I got it right. The banking, insurance, captive insurance and fund industry experience in a number of roles has (I think) left me pretty well versed in the financial services side. Shame that so many opportunities these days demand a degree (regardless of subject!) before you can get in the door to prove you're at least as good. Bit cliched but the university of life gives you a good grounding. Perhaps vital if you're going to develop a career based on your degree (law & medicine the prime examples) but IMO not so important if you have the aptitude and can ably demonstrate.
Sure we all know degree holders we think are idiots, but think I am more than capable of proving my idiocy without one...
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Say what you like Mac, I've at least as high an educational attainment as you, and I have a better job, nor do I get pulled up for talking as much crap as you. So who's the winner?McLaren wrote:As you prove on a daily basis Super.
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Very true super.
Do Mcilroy and wozniaki have a dog that will need to be apportioned in the break up? If so McIlroy should go for weekends as he is increasingly getting them off.
Do Mcilroy and wozniaki have a dog that will need to be apportioned in the break up? If so McIlroy should go for weekends as he is increasingly getting them off.
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I'd just stick the dog in a bag and throw it off a bridge, no doubt being a "celebrity" couple it will be one of those crappy little toy dogs anyway.
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Credit where credit's due Mac, that did bring on an audible chuckle. Good work.McLaren wrote:Do Mcilroy and wozniaki have a dog that will need to be apportioned in the break up? If so McIlroy should go for weekends as he is increasingly getting them off.
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Mac seems increasingly obsessed with Wozzy .. I wonder if she has replaced the teenage witch on his bedroom wall
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.....and the poster of Nine Chins on his ceiling.Davie wrote:Mac seems increasingly obsessed with Wozzy .. I wonder if she has replaced the teenage witch on his bedroom wall
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From Twitter....McLaren wrote:Who will drop out the top 200 first. Paddy Harrington or pube head?
Irishmen of the world uniting...Shane Lowry @shanelowrygolf
Why does everyone focus on Harrington dropping outside the worlds top 100. The focus should be the achievement of staying there for 14 years
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Lowry should be working on his declining game rather than expending 3 calories sending a tweet.
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I thought the term 'tatty muncher' had been banned from the forum?
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Only in your dreams Inco.
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Really? I must've missed that announcement. Can you show it to me?incontinentia wrote:I thought the term 'tatty muncher' had been banned from the forum?
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It hasn't Davie, Just Mr Disgusted of Tipperary wishes it was. Remember he's the misanthrope who wrote to the BBC over the use of the term "luck of the irish".
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I can't be bothered to search, but in one of the locked threads a couple of months navy asked people to refrain from using it. So by doing so you are walking around in open rebellion to navyblueshorts and the house rules.Davie wrote:Really? I must've missed that announcement. Can you show it to me?incontinentia wrote:I thought the term 'tatty muncher' had been banned from the forum?
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Inco, You don't have a right to not be offended and when you start to claim synthetic offence and purposely seek it out in regard to something as innocuous and completely unrelated to you as the term "tatty muncher" which is only ever meant in jest then it's you who look silly, and none of us who look like we are deliberately conflating an insult or persecuting you. So please grow up and continue with your acceptance as you had done very well previously. There's a good fellow.
I once asked you to give me your best reason to be offended at the term. No surprise you didn't give one.
I once asked you to give me your best reason to be offended at the term. No surprise you didn't give one.
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Just for clarity, can people refrain from using the phrase 'tatty muncher' (or derivatives thereof) in reference to the Irish. It's unnecessary, it's usually deliberately inflammatory for no reason and there have been a number of requests that it be stopped. I would have thought the existence of the word 'Irish' to describe the Irish was useful enough?
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super- as we all know, certain foodstuffs can have racist connotations i.e. fried chicken for black people and potatoes for the Irish. My reason for offence is thatit mocks the Irish famine which affected my ancestors only a few generations ago.
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A few generations? Are you near your 200th birthday.
Please note I havent mentioned it here but ro rake offwnce at that is absurd.
For the record there is no such thing as the Irish race any more than there is a finish or a Liechtenstein race.
Synthetic offence I tell ye. Peevish, pedantic, pettish and pathetic.
And even if I was mocking an event from centuries back, why care. You only say you do because you feel it is your duty to take offence.
Please note I havent mentioned it here but ro rake offwnce at that is absurd.
For the record there is no such thing as the Irish race any more than there is a finish or a Liechtenstein race.
Synthetic offence I tell ye. Peevish, pedantic, pettish and pathetic.
And even if I was mocking an event from centuries back, why care. You only say you do because you feel it is your duty to take offence.
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Any chance of going back to McIlroy?
For my tuppence worth I would say that unless Horizon had clauses tucked away that were deliberately buried or designed to confuse I would imagine that he will be laughed out of court. He signed a contract as an adult and only an idiot would do that without having a lawyer look through it first when you are talking about these sorts of things.
Given that he seems to have taken GMac's advice on joining them I wonder what GMac's contract is like?
It maybe goes to show that when you miss out a chunk of life skills through growing up in a bubble of golf/sport then you maybe miss out on a load of learning?
A little like the footballers who have only lived in their football bubble and when they retire don't know where to find a plumber or a dentist as everything has been done for them since they were 14.
For my tuppence worth I would say that unless Horizon had clauses tucked away that were deliberately buried or designed to confuse I would imagine that he will be laughed out of court. He signed a contract as an adult and only an idiot would do that without having a lawyer look through it first when you are talking about these sorts of things.
Given that he seems to have taken GMac's advice on joining them I wonder what GMac's contract is like?
It maybe goes to show that when you miss out a chunk of life skills through growing up in a bubble of golf/sport then you maybe miss out on a load of learning?
A little like the footballers who have only lived in their football bubble and when they retire don't know where to find a plumber or a dentist as everything has been done for them since they were 14.
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Exactly, he's gone from being the best player in the world with the golfing world at his mercy to someone who probably is barely playing well enough to keep a card on the European Tour.
I wonder if even perpetual struggler Nick Dougherty has had a better year?
I wonder if even perpetual struggler Nick Dougherty has had a better year?
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Take no notice incontientia.incontinentia wrote:super- as we all know, certain foodstuffs can have racist connotations i.e. fried chicken for black people and potatoes for the Irish. My reason for offence is thatit mocks the Irish famine which affected my ancestors only a few generations ago.
You have to take what SR says with a pinch of salt.
He's one of these guys who likes to insult people from the comforts of hiding behind his keyboard.
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Is that any worse than the realisation than you are taking offence from behind a keyboard from someone you have never met about a subject which isn't even close to affecting you personally or anyone you know or have ever known?
If I really wanted to be insulting or offensive, do you not think I could think of something a lot more obvious than that given the rather embarrassing history of "the emerald isle"?
I don't for a second believe he's actually offended, just on a defensive crusade.
If I really wanted to be insulting or offensive, do you not think I could think of something a lot more obvious than that given the rather embarrassing history of "the emerald isle"?
I don't for a second believe he's actually offended, just on a defensive crusade.
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a) I'm not taking offense, but can understand people who do.
b) being offensive to people you dont know is just stupid.
You seem to be one of these cats that just sputs stuff out without thinking.
You have been banned from here before which is just a headsgone.
Cant seem to have a debate with out getting banned, just silly.
There are few people on here you have had arguments heated debates with.
Your a strange bird SR.
Anyway peace out, i'm off to watch Ireland now.
b) being offensive to people you dont know is just stupid.
You seem to be one of these cats that just sputs stuff out without thinking.
You have been banned from here before which is just a headsgone.
Cant seem to have a debate with out getting banned, just silly.
There are few people on here you have had arguments heated debates with.
Your a strange bird SR.
Anyway peace out, i'm off to watch Ireland now.
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No West, I say what I please because in this particular instance, it isn't remotely logical that people should be taking offence at something like that, let alone on a forum. I don't believe it's actually an offensive term.
Anyway, I don't care if I offend people in general. You've no right not to be offended, and if you are, especially on a forum, just how serious do you take yourself?
Just don't take offence, simple as that.
Anyway, McIlroy, could he be just another Rickie Fowler, Michelle Wie etc
Anyway, I don't care if I offend people in general. You've no right not to be offended, and if you are, especially on a forum, just how serious do you take yourself?
Just don't take offence, simple as that.
Anyway, McIlroy, could he be just another Rickie Fowler, Michelle Wie etc
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Navy .. I've never seen such an edict before. If it's THAT important it should be written into the rules (good luck with that one!)navyblueshorts wrote:Just for clarity, can people refrain from using the phrase 'tatty muncher' (or derivatives thereof) in reference to the Irish. It's unnecessary, it's usually deliberately inflammatory for no reason and there have been a number of requests that it be stopped. I would have thought the existence of the word 'Irish' to describe the Irish was useful enough?
I never saw any reference to it before or ask for it to be removed. If I hadn't commented on this thread I wouldn't have seen it this time either. Are there any other faux derogative terms I should know about?
Really it's all very silly. To have to put it in red is even sillier
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Like him or loathe him, McIlroy has already achieved more than 95% of touring pros ever will.
When he's playing as well as we used to know he can he's a breath of fresh air, at least on the buttoned up PGA Tour.
Let's hope he doesn't turn out to be a breath of fresh air to attorneys, here and there, who surely don't need any more help to make their millions.
When he's playing as well as we used to know he can he's a breath of fresh air, at least on the buttoned up PGA Tour.
Let's hope he doesn't turn out to be a breath of fresh air to attorneys, here and there, who surely don't need any more help to make their millions.
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Davie, for reference you can't use "luck of the irish" either.
I've always thought it's healthy to laugh at your own and other nationalities, and much worse to be precious and oversensitive about it. After all, it's only where you were born and most countries have a lot more to laugh about, take the urine out of and be ashamed of than actually be proud of.
I've always thought it's healthy to laugh at your own and other nationalities, and much worse to be precious and oversensitive about it. After all, it's only where you were born and most countries have a lot more to laugh about, take the urine out of and be ashamed of than actually be proud of.
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Kwini
What are the chances we see the PGA and fedex 2012 Rory again?
What are the chances we see the PGA and fedex 2012 Rory again?
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