Vitali is Definitely Running For President.

by Mr Bounce Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:45 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24660670

Vitali Klitschko has confirmed he will run for Presidency of the Ukraine. Does this mean his boxing career is now over? Or perhaps the WBC will confirm him as "WBC Champion in Presidency Candidacy Emeritus"?

Edit: Interesting that the report shows him as a "former World Champion".

by TRUSSMAN66 Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:46 pm

Mr Bounce wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24660670

Vitali Klitschko has confirmed he will run for Presidency of the Ukraine. Does this mean his boxing career is now over?

Hope so for Obama's sake...

by **ShahenshahG** Thu Oct 24, 2013 5:49 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:
Mr Bounce wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24660670

Vitali Klitschko has confirmed he will run for Presidency of the Ukraine. Does this mean his boxing career is now over?
Hope so for Obama's sake...

by wheelchair1991 Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:04 pm

knowing the WBC they will let him hold the title indefinatly

by spencerclarke Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:04 pm

David Tua getting in to politics as well it seems!

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/other-sports/9323338/Boxer-David-Tua-outlines-his-political-ambition

by WelshDevilRob Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:13 pm

Wish he would hurry up and vacate the belt. Bermane Stiverne has been denied too long.

by Champagne_Socialist Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:45 pm

the presidency is in 2015. He will need 1 more fight before then not just as a goodbye fight but also to keep his name in the media and news which will help him win the election.

by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:58 am

Got to wish him luck as the current administration seems to be moving the goalposts on an hourly basis.

Must have lived in the Ukraine for at least 180 days of the year? No, no you have to have lived there for at least ten years to be a candidate.

Anyone can run for Presidency? No, now only people not called Vitali...or anything else.

Vitali has more chance of winning Strictly...

by Rowley Fri Oct 25, 2013 10:56 am

Good luck to him, easy to be cynical about these sorts of things but have to remember Vitali has probably made enough money out of boxing and his various pursuits to spend the rest of his days as a dissolute playboy but clearly wants to try and do some good in his country. Can only wish him all the best.

by joeyjojo618 Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:02 am

Hasnt he (unsuccessfully) been trying to run for mayor for years now? I thought Kiev.

by Mind the windows Tino. Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:15 am

joeyjojo618 wrote:Hasnt he (unsuccessfully) been trying to run for mayor for years now? I thought Kiev.

I think so.

From memory he got crushed the first time he ran but was a bit closer second time. Perhaps they feel they care close enough to mount a real challenge now.

by bhb001 Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:16 am

I have said before that he should retire from boxing now, head held high, with nothing to prove to anyone. It is good that he has something else he is passionate about and wishes to pursue. With his intelligence and cast iron chin, he will go far. But he does need to retire. This barring the way for others is no good to his reputation or to any up and comers that are champing at the bit.

by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 12:40 pm

Is there any chance he actually wins a presidential election? At all?

by Champagne_Socialist Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:00 pm

his party came 3rd in the last election so there is every chance he could win the election.

by Guest Fri Oct 25, 2013 3:23 pm

Then I want to see Lennox Lewis running for PM. The G8 meetings would actually be interesting then.

by TRUSSMAN66 Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:15 pm

I see Vitali's party is looking for more Government control including whole scale reform of welfare......minimum wage...Salary caps ........etc

Sounds lefter than Ed Miliband.......

Seems to have some good ideology............

Good luck to him.............

just hope he isn't going up against lennox lewis..

by Champagne_Socialist Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:27 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I see Vitali's party is looking for more Government control including whole scale reform of welfare......minimum wage...Salary caps ........etc

Sounds lefter than Ed Miliband.......

Seems to have some good ideology............

Good luck to him.............

just hope he isn't going up against lennox lewis..

It looks like Vitali is entering politics with the intention of making his country, Ukraine, a better place rather than most politicians who enter politics to gain power.

by kingraf Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:59 pm

The good thing, I suppose, is that he cant possibly be doing this for money, or vanity. Seems a genuine good guy, not sure I agree with his manifesto
- but I hope he gets a fair crack at this.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:21 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:his party came 3rd in the last election so there is every chance he could win the election.

I'm not too clued up on ukranian politics but his failure to win any mayoral election doesn't bode well while a 3rd party in any country rarely progresses beyond that, it's akin to suggesting the lib dems have a realistic chance of election.

by DavidBlunkettsuppercut Fri Oct 25, 2013 7:25 pm

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Then I want to see Lennox Lewis running for PM. The G8 meetings would actually be interesting then.

What about James Toney for President? no School for everyone and Free Mcdonalds meal vouchers!

by Strongback Fri Oct 25, 2013 8:11 pm

Remember the Ukranian Parliament broke out into a mass brawl.

Here's the video. Vitali can be seen at the 1.00 min mark.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tYXr_VsQKY&feature=youtube_gdata_player

by kingraf Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:05 pm

nothing bests Asian parliament, but that's pretty good

by Champagne_Socialist Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:17 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:his party came 3rd in the last election so there is every chance he could win the election.
I'm not too clued up on ukranian politics.

by Hammersmith harrier Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:19 pm

Somehow I doubt very much you are either Chris, seeing as your input has been entirely based on his party coming third.

by Steffan Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:22 pm

Vitali will lose

by trenchtownbaboon Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:35 pm

Good bloody riddance I couldn't give a monkeys chuff about Vitali and his politics!

by trenchtownbaboon Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:35 pm

Double post

by trenchtownbaboon Fri Oct 25, 2013 11:36 pm

Fight or fank off!

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:22 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Somehow I doubt very much you are either Chris, seeing as your input has been entirely based on his party coming third.

He has every chance of winning based on polls, public opinion and the fact the government are running scred and trying to change the rules to stop Vitali being able to stand.

But forget about if you like Vitali or not, Ukraine is a country that has been hit by corruption over the last 15 years. Victor Yushchenko who is a former President was nearly assinated and his face was disfigured with acid. Then there is Yulia Tymoshenko a former president who was imprisoned for 'corruption' charges which many of the western countries have called a political persecution.

Hopefully Vitali will win the election and hopefully he will rid Ukraine of corruption.

Put your personal dislike of Vitali as a boxer to one side and actually see that he is trying to make not only ukraine but the world a better place. He wants to fight corruption and make standards of living beter for people. He is risking his life and his freedom in his bid to make Ukraine a better place.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:47 am

He's not actually risking anything considering his permanent residence is Germany and it all sounds like a fabulous fairytale but his party requires a 37% swing to get into power. Your obsession with the brothers is quite fun to watch but your basic lack of understanding of any issue is not. The last election was last year his party were marginally ahead of the communist party who are expected to make further inroads in 2015 as are Svoboda.

Udar are currently just one party seeking to make strides in parliament but they have no realistic chance of getting into power in 2015. The big problem is that Ukraine is not a western thinking country, it's people are not western thinking, all of what you've said is based on nothing but your love for Vitali. I don't care for Vitali the boxer or as a person but if he thinks that by being well known is going to make any ounce of difference he's wrong it wont. A leopard doesn't change it spots that quickly.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:56 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:He's not actually risking anything considering his permanent residence is Germany and it all sounds like a fabulous fairytale but his party requires a 37% swing to get into power. Your obsession with the brothers is quite fun to watch but your basic lack of understanding of any issue is not. The last election was last year his party were marginally ahead of the communist party who are expected to make further inroads in 2015 as are Svoboda.

Udar are currently just one party seeking to make strides in parliament but they have no realistic chance of getting into power in 2015. The big problem is that Ukraine is not a western thinking country, it's people are not western thinking, all of what you've said is based on nothing but your love for Vitali. I don't care for Vitali the boxer or as a person but if he thinks that by being well known is going to make any ounce of difference he's wrong it wont. A leopard doesn't change it spots that quickly.

Opinion polls since early 2011 show that the predicted percentage of votes that Klitschko would gain in the first round of the 2015 Ukrainian presidential election enlarged from 4.8% in December 2011 to 15.1% in February 2013 and an October 2013 Razumkov Centre poll predicted 19.3%.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:12 am

The problem with the ukrainian opinion polls is the 45% who are not decided so they have very little relevance and also the fact it splits one party into two. Depending on what poll you use the swings are quite big between all of them, Tymoshenko when running in the parliamentary elections is the leader of a 'united opposition'. The R & B poll in september 2013 predicted an 11.7% vote for UDAR rather than the 19.3% predicted by Razumkov, eastern european elections don't work like they do in the western world.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:18 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The problem with the ukrainian opinion polls is the 45% who are not decided so they have very little relevance and also the fact it splits one party into two. Depending on what poll you use the swings are quite big between all of them, Tymoshenko when running in the parliamentary elections is the leader of a 'united opposition'. The R & B poll in september 2013 predicted an 11.7% vote for UDAR rather than the 19.3% predicted by Razumkov, eastern european elections don't work like they do in the western world.

Champagne_Socialist wrote:Opinion polls since early 2011 show that the predicted percentage of votes that Klitschko would gain in the first round of the 2015 Ukrainian presidential election enlarged from 4.8% in December 2011 to 15.1% in February 2013 and an October 2013 Razumkov Centre poll predicted 19.3%

I would argue that is exactly how the Western world works in that different polls show different results.

Either way I believe the 2012 elections ere the first elections UDAR stood in and they came 3rd in the election. All opinion polls, including the one you posted shows that UDAR are gaining popularity and with 2 years to go until the next election anything can happen.

My personal opinion is that if Vitali does win it will not be an outright victory but rather via a coalition with other annti-corruption parties.

by catchweight Sat Oct 26, 2013 3:35 am

Looking back now I dont think Vitali Klitschkos comeback was anything more than a political move to try and gain popularity and finance for his political career. Its a cynical kind of treatment of boxing. Hes a part time boxer. I dont know how popular in Ukraine he is really. He basically sold out and became a German to earn his money. I dont think his career in politics will amount to much.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 26, 2013 5:12 am

catchweight wrote:Looking back now I dont think Vitali Klitschkos comeback was anything more than a political move to try and gain popularity and finance for his political career. Its a cynical kind of treatment of boxing. Hes a part time boxer. I dont know how popular in Ukraine he is really. He basically sold out and became a German to earn his money. I dont think his career in politics will amount to much.

Well he is already a member of parliament in Ukraine and leader of the 3rd largest party in Ukraine, He has already achieved a lot.

by kingraf Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:53 am

A part time boxer? A quick look shows that he has fought ten fights since his comeback in 2008. Since 2008, Floyd has fought in.... SIX. I assume you feel the same about Floyd's comeback?

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:07 am

kingraf wrote:A part time boxer? A quick look shows that he has fought ten fights since his comeback in 2008. Since 2008, Floyd has fought in.... SIX. I assume you feel the same about Floyd's comeback?

I wouldn't take anything Catchweight says about Klitschko too seriously.

by bhb001 Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:41 am

Haye hasn't fought for 16 months whereas Vitali hasn't fought for 14 months. Mind you, at least Haye has a fight in the diary, whereas Vitali hasn't got anything planned. Vitali should step aside now; with dignity and pride in his achievements.

by catchweight Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:31 pm

kingraf wrote:A part time boxer? A quick look shows that he has fought ten fights since his comeback in 2008. Since 2008, Floyd has fought in.... SIX. I assume you feel the same about Floyd's comeback?

He hasnt had a fight in over a year and spends more time worrying about politics than actual being a world champion.

by catchweight Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:35 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Somehow I doubt very much you are either Chris, seeing as your input has been entirely based on his party coming third.
He has every chance of winning based on polls, public opinion and the fact the government are running scred and trying to change the rules to stop Vitali being able to stand.

But forget about if you like Vitali or not, Ukraine is a country that has been hit by corruption over the last 15 years. Victor Yushchenko who is a former President was nearly assinated and his face was disfigured with acid. Then there is Yulia Tymoshenko a former president who was imprisoned for 'corruption' charges which many of the western countries have called a political persecution.

Hopefully Vitali will win the election and hopefully he will rid Ukraine of corruption.

Put your personal dislike of Vitali as a boxer to one side and actually see that he is trying to make not only ukraine but the world a better place. He wants to fight corruption and make standards of living beter for people. He is risking his life and his freedom in his bid to make Ukraine a better place.

Hilariously vomit inducing.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:38 pm

catchweight wrote:
kingraf wrote:A part time boxer? A quick look shows that he has fought ten fights since his comeback in 2008. Since 2008, Floyd has fought in.... SIX. I assume you feel the same about Floyd's comeback?
He hasnt had a fight in over a year and spends more time worrying about politics than actual being a world champion.

Once again you are on a thread about Klitschko trying to insult him. Your obsession with Klitschko is not healthy.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:42 pm

catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Somehow I doubt very much you are either Chris, seeing as your input has been entirely based on his party coming third.
He has every chance of winning based on polls, public opinion and the fact the government are running scred and trying to change the rules to stop Vitali being able to stand.

But forget about if you like Vitali or not, Ukraine is a country that has been hit by corruption over the last 15 years. Victor Yushchenko who is a former President was nearly assinated and his face was disfigured with acid. Then there is Yulia Tymoshenko a former president who was imprisoned for 'corruption' charges which many of the western countries have called a political persecution.

Hopefully Vitali will win the election and hopefully he will rid Ukraine of corruption.

Put your personal dislike of Vitali as a boxer to one side and actually see that he is trying to make not only ukraine but the world a better place. He wants to fight corruption and make standards of living beter for people. He is risking his life and his freedom in his bid to make Ukraine a better place.
Hilariously vomit inducing.

Is there something wrong with you?

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 26, 2013 1:54 pm

The pair of you are pathetic, all you ever do is argue about the brothers.

by catchweight Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:00 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:The pair of you are pathetic, all you ever do is argue about the brothers.

Ah get back on boxrec and wait for hazharrison Grandad

by catchweight Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:02 pm

Champagne_Socialist wrote:
catchweight wrote:
Champagne_Socialist wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:Somehow I doubt very much you are either Chris, seeing as your input has been entirely based on his party coming third.
He has every chance of winning based on polls, public opinion and the fact the government are running scred and trying to change the rules to stop Vitali being able to stand.

But forget about if you like Vitali or not, Ukraine is a country that has been hit by corruption over the last 15 years. Victor Yushchenko who is a former President was nearly assinated and his face was disfigured with acid. Then there is Yulia Tymoshenko a former president who was imprisoned for 'corruption' charges which many of the western countries have called a political persecution.

Hopefully Vitali will win the election and hopefully he will rid Ukraine of corruption.

Put your personal dislike of Vitali as a boxer to one side and actually see that he is trying to make not only ukraine but the world a better place. He wants to fight corruption and make standards of living beter for people. He is risking his life and his freedom in his bid to make Ukraine a better place.
Hilariously vomit inducing.
Is there something wrong with you?

No Im just an bumhole. You are bring out the best in me with your creepy obsession of trawling around and following me with your Klitschko agenda.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:03 pm

Ouch so original mate.

by catchweight Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:05 pm

The truth is always original. "Mate".

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:08 pm

Do carry on with the insults, it really adds the website, we're lucky to have you.

by Champagne_Socialist Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:17 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:Do carry on with the insults, it really adds the website, we're lucky to have you.

I agree with this, Catchweight you need to stop the insults. When people disagree with you they don't insult you in the process so you should not insult others.

by Hammersmith harrier Sat Oct 26, 2013 2:19 pm

You're just as bad with your snidey little comments too so don't start getting all high and mighty, i'm sure you must stalk the boards waiting for somebody to say something negative about the brothers.

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