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Post by George Carlin Mon 28 Oct 2013, 11:23 am

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Friday 1 November 2013, KO 19:45
Murrayfield Stadium, Edinburgh
 
Referee: Leighton Hodges (WRU, 31st competition game)
Assistant Referees: David Changleng, Bob Nevins (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: Rob Flockhart (SRU)
 
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A. Teams:
 
I. Edinburgh
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15 Tonks
14 Fife
13 Dominguez
12 Atiga
11 Cuthbert
10 Leonard
9 Kennedy
1 Blaauw
2 Lutui
3 Nel
4 Gilchrist
5 van der Westhuizen
6 Leonardi
7 Grant CAPTAIN
8 Du Preez

Subs
16 Hilterbrand
17 Dickinson
18 Cross
19 Cox
20 Rennie
21 Hidalgo-Clyne
22 Beard
23 Jones

II. Zebre
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15 Dion BERRYMAN
14 Leonardo SARTO
13 Tommaso IANNONE
12 Gonzalo GARCIA
11 Giovanbattista VENDITTI
10 Luciano ORQUERA
9 Brendon LEONARD

8 Samuela VUNISA
7 Emiliano CAFFINI
6 Filippo CRISTIANO
5 Marco BORTOLAMI (cap)
4 Quintin GELDENHUYS
3 Dario CHISTOLINI
2 Davide GIAZZON
1 Salvatore PERUGINI
 
16 Luciano LEIBSON
17 Andrea DE MARCHI
18 David RYAN
19 Michael VAN VUREN
20 Andrea MANICI
21 Alberto CHILLON
22 David ODIETE
23 Giulio TONIOLATTI 

B. Form - head to head
 
2 Played 2
2 Wins 0
0 Losses 2
0 Draws 0
5 Tries 2
5 Conversions 2
5 Penalties 1
0 Drop Goals 0
50 Points 17
25 Avg. Age 26
 
C. Form - last season:
 
Friday 14 September 2012, 19:30 - Murrayfield
Edinburgh Rugby 41 - 10 Zebre
 
Friday 29 March 2013, 19:00 - Stadio XXV Aprile
Zebre 7 - 9 Edinburgh Rugby
 
D. Parliamo Edinburgh:
 
12 - Matt Scott, centre
Answer, the - Cornell du Preez, loosie
Big Bob - Robert McAlpine, lock
Big Jessie, that - (see His Mighty Timness)
Claire Balding - (see Dozer)
Coman the Barbarian - Mike Coman, loosie
Coxy - Sean Cox, lock
De Lukewarm/De Donkey - Nick De Luca, centre
Double Firstname - Piers Francis, fly half
Dozer - David Denton, loosie
Dubya Pee - Willem Petrus Nel, prop
Fairy, the - Lee Jones, wing
Fat Boy - Ben Atiga, centre
Fordy - Ross Ford, hooker
General, the - Greig Laidlaw, scrum half
Geriatric, the - Aleki Lutui, hooker
Ginger Midget, the - Roddy Grant, loosie
Grandpappy - Alan Solomons, head coach
His Mighty Timness - Tim Visser, wing
Igor - Jack Cuthbert, full back
Izzy - Izak van der Westhuizen, lock
Mad Georgian, the - Dimitri Basilaia, loosie
Piemaster - (see Fat Boy)
PJP - Perry Parker, lock
Puma, the - Tomás Leonardi, loosie
Revolving Door - Sam Hidalgo-Clyne, scum half
Scrum Doctor, the - Geoff Cross, prop
Sick Note - Ross Rennie, loosie
Tony - Grayson Hart, scrum half
Wikipedia - Wicus Blaauw, prop
 
E. Team representatives this week - composers:
 
Harry Lauder - born in Edinburgh
Giuseppe Verdi - born in Parma


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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 01 Nov 2013, 1:29 pm

No, I'm expecting Atiga to receive a hospital pass behind our own tryline.....but to somehow side step the onrushing Zebre players gracefully, reminiscent of Phil Bennett, break out from under the posts with accelaration not seen since the great Christian Cullen, deploy a Toonie flip to release Jack Cuthbert past the last line of defence and then back up Cuthbert to ensure that when the Zebre tighthead prop catches up with him around the half way line, Atiga is on hand to deftly receive the return pass and blaze away under the Zebre posts to score what pundits will later refer to as the finest try in the history of the universe. The crowd will not cheer. The crowd will simply sit and admire, recognising that they have just seen rugby perfection, and contemplate how life will ever again live up to that moment. The consolation will be that they can say to their children, and their children's children, that they were there when Ben Atiga scored "that" try.

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Post by CraigS1874 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 1:36 pm

I am feeling relatively confident, the back row looks alright considering in a few weeks denton/rennie will be back.I just dont think Fife will see the ball with the players inside him. Would like to see beard get some game time because big ben is not the answer at 12 after Scott. Regarding farndale he has been in and out of the accies team but is supposed to start this weekend (as is lee jones!?!? ) . I dont think he is a great player apart from his strength/speed so lets hope his leg break last year has not affected that.

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 1:53 pm

CraigS1874 wrote:I am feeling relatively confident, the back row looks alright considering in a few weeks denton/rennie will be back.I just dont think Fife will see the ball with the players inside him. Would like to see beard get some game time because big ben is not the answer at 12 after Scott. Regarding farndale he has been in and out of the accies team but is supposed to start this weekend (as is lee jones!?!? ) . I dont think he is a great player apart from his strength/speed so lets hope his leg break last year has not affected that.
As a 19 year old winger those two things are his main asset, especially speed - he can work on the rest of his game easily enough!

From what I've seen he's also a very good finisher - bodes well to have him and Visser in the same team.

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Post by CraigS1874 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 2:01 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:
CraigS1874 wrote:I am feeling relatively confident, the back row looks alright considering in a few weeks denton/rennie will be back.I just dont think Fife will see the ball with the players inside him. Would like to see beard get some game time because big ben is not the answer at 12 after Scott. Regarding farndale he has been in and out of the accies team but is supposed to start this weekend (as is lee jones!?!? ) . I dont think he is a great player apart from his strength/speed so lets hope his leg break last year has not affected that.
As a 19 year old winger those two things are his main asset, especially speed - he can work on the rest of his game easily enough!

From what I've seen he's also a very good finisher - bodes well to have him and Visser in the same team.
Yeah point taken and i cant really talk last time I played against him he scored 3 and I missed a tackle on him Doh yeah no doubt good for his age and will probably get capped but he is not ready for pro rugby just yet as I have been told his hands/passing need a lot of work

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 2:03 pm

Ah so you're just jealous he made it and you didn't?? Very Happy 

It is a familiar story with young wingers - great basic abilities but really needs to work on the rest of his game.  Again, very similar to Tim Visser.

The fact that he has that basic ability is what is promising though - at the end of the day all a winger really has to do is catch the ball and run very fast!

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Post by tigertattie Fri 01 Nov 2013, 2:15 pm

funnyExiledScot wrote:No, I'm expecting Atiga to receive a hospital pass behind our own tryline.....but to somehow side step the onrushing Zebre players gracefully, reminiscent of Phil Bennett, break out from under the posts with accelaration not seen since the great Christian Cullen, deploy a Toonie flip to release Jack Cuthbert past the last line of defence and then back up Cuthbert to ensure that when the Zebre tighthead prop catches up with him around the half way line, Atiga is on hand to deftly receive the return pass and blaze away under the Zebre posts to score what pundits will later refer to as the finest try in the history of the universe. The crowd will not cheer. The crowd will simply sit and admire, recognising that they have just seen rugby perfection, and contemplate how life will ever again live up to that moment. The consolation will be that they can say to their children, and their children's children, that they were there when Ben Atiga scored "that" try.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 01 Nov 2013, 3:08 pm

Yes. That was sarcasm.

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Post by cakeordeath Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:07 pm

Is this game on the radio?

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:10 pm

Aye

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Post by cakeordeath Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:15 pm

Care to expand on that answer

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:16 pm

Bbc radio Scotland - where else!

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Post by highland_scot Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:19 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/21267690

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Post by cakeordeath Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:19 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:Bbc radio Scotland - where else!
I am not some farmer sitting in the borders with a wooly jumper and 2 sheep to keep me company. Very Happy  I don't have a radio with MW. Do you happen to know a streaming URL

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Post by cakeordeath Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:20 pm

highland_scot wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/21267690
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Post by GLove39 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:21 pm

Shame the games not on TV, but I do enjoy the chaps on BBC radio Scotland.
They were describing Ben Atiga on attack, "it's like a slowmotion sidestep there" Laugh 

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:22 pm

Bbq radio Scotland is FM too!

12-10 Edinburgh..

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Post by GLove39 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:30 pm

12-17 down now as Zebre get their second try just before half time raspberry 

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:30 pm

Ffs! mad 

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:32 pm

We're gonna lose arent we?

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:36 pm

Yes we are. It was all going fine until we switched off at that restart. Can't say Zebre don't deserve it.

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Post by Brendan Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:38 pm

Have to say this game could end with TBPs each. Hope Zebre hold on but i'm sure they'll be caught.

Why isn't it on Alba

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:51 pm

This is painful.

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Post by GLove39 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:56 pm

sounding ominous on the radio. Apparently Zebre have butchered 2 tries? picard 

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Post by GLove39 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 8:59 pm

Hooray for the forum writers curse, Du Preez with the try. And suddenly we're back in front.

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:03 pm

One try from a bonus point...

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Post by GLove39 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:05 pm

RDW_Scotland wrote:One try from a bonus point...
Ohhhh, just think we could become the first Scottish team to score one this season!

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:17 pm

We really have made some dreadful errors tonight!

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:23 pm

This is far to close...

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Post by Brendan Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:24 pm

Is it still 19 v 17

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Post by GLove39 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:24 pm

Good to hear Rennie still has it, crucial try saving (hopefully match winning) tackle

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:24 pm

25-23

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Post by GLove39 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:25 pm

Brendan wrote:Is it still 19 v 17
25-23

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Post by Brendan Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:26 pm

How long left.

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Post by GLove39 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:26 pm

Well a wins a win

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:26 pm

Oh my god we scraped that one!

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:27 pm

Game over - Edinburgh win!

Well fes how was that?

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Post by Brendan Fri 01 Nov 2013, 9:28 pm

Well done Edinburgh.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 01 Nov 2013, 10:14 pm

Scrappy game, mixture of good play and farce. Some good individual performances and a few to forget. No question that these were two poor sides, but that's 8 points from 2 games which is ultimately what matters.

Du Preez was MOTM and rightly so. Cox and Dickinson improved us, and two squint throws aside, Lutui was a tank. Kennedy was sharp, and in defence Atiga was useful. Cuthbert had some horrible moments, and Tonks was pretty good all game but had one high profile unforced error which cost us territory at a key stage.

Not a high quality game, but just pleased to win.

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Post by RDW Fri 01 Nov 2013, 10:42 pm

What's this chat about a try saving tackle from Ross Rennie?

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Post by butterfingers Fri 01 Nov 2013, 10:44 pm

Tonks error made me chuckle, if you turn to the side to catch the ball don't turn to the side facing 1 metre from the touchline and drop the ball in.

Wasn't the worst game ever, Edinburgh deserved the win, but I counted 3/4 bombed tries from Zebre, and I mean seriously bombed!

Both teams will be ultimately happy though.

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Post by VinceWLB Fri 01 Nov 2013, 10:49 pm

Not much faith in Geoff Cross i see, hasn't been given game time yet again.

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Post by CraigS1874 Fri 01 Nov 2013, 10:59 pm

I know Lutui got a lot of stick when he signed but wow he fairly makes yards, I didn't think Leonard was great considering the forwards played pretty well he chose the wrong option too much. Cuthbert also poor but the front row du Perez atiga and rennie were all encouraging. Lucky to get the win and need to improve but a wins a win. Disappointed we didn't see beard come of the bench though, I wanted to see what he was like.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 02 Nov 2013, 5:22 am

Well done Edinburgh. The BBC news report is quite fulsome - we apparently built a comfortable lead by 50 minutes and spent the remainder of the game trying to squander it.

Briliant news about Rennie. I want nothing more than for him to have a period uninjured.
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Post by funnyExiledScot Sun 03 Nov 2013, 10:54 am

We really did try to squander it GC, it was text book squandering. Territory was key, and yet both Cuthbert and Tonks saw fit to reward two completely aimless long range punts with knock-ons, and our lineout was a shambles as always.

Still, Zebre were dreadful as well. A number of passes found thin air followed by a confused look as the ball hit the turf or went out, and despite having two dangerous runners on the wing, the Zebre midfield was pretty clueless.

The scoreline was a fair reflection ultimately, and the least bad side won.

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