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Post by iantobquick Sat Nov 02, 2013 12:22 am

Sorry if this has been dealt with, but with 3 10's in the squad why is Hook in? Is there a chance of Hook playing 12 as a starter? We seem to have cover elsewhere so not sure why he is in?

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Post by Casartelli Sat Nov 02, 2013 1:22 am

Hook's last ten appearances in tests have all been off the bench. Gatland declared last week that he is frustrated by the terms of Hook's Perpignan contract and this means he slips down the pecking order for Welsh selection.

Hook is there as utility cover, same as always.

I'm sure Gatland talks about Hook to the media just to deflect the more awkward questions away. Like that time he picked Tom Prydie.

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Post by stub Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:29 am

I read on here somewhere that Hook is like a "Swiss Army Knife" and therefore highly useful to have around.

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Post by GunsGerms Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:35 am

stub wrote:I read on here somewhere that Hook is like a "Swiss Army Knife" and therefore highly useful to have around.
Good player but at this stage he might have lost his toothpick and tweezers though.

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Post by stub Sat Nov 02, 2013 3:39 am

GunsGerms wrote:
stub wrote:I read on here somewhere that Hook is like a "Swiss Army Knife" and therefore highly useful to have around.
Good player but at this stage he might have lost his toothpick and tweezers though.
Ha ha! Happens to all of em eventually! Very Happy 

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:54 pm

I can't see him starting unless there is a raft of injuries, he will be used as bench option.
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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:16 pm

i do feel sorry for the guy . when you can play a few positions you tend to be benched under gats . example Ryan Jones

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Post by jimmyinthewell68 Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:23 pm

but saying that with Ryan there are better players in the positions he plays same with hook .

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:28 pm

If Hook or R Jones were the best in their position then I wouldn't have a problem with them starting but Hook isn't the best 10,12 or 15 and Jones isn't the best 6 or 8.
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Post by stub Sat Nov 02, 2013 9:46 pm

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:i do feel sorry for the guy . when you can play a few positions you tend to be benched under gats . example Ryan Jones
 
Apparently he (Hook) is a good bloke too. I can remember him visiting my nephews' school in Port Talbot and making a really positive impression on everyone. In fact both of my nephews then went on to play rugby for a bit after that - both of them 6ft 4 monsters!

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Post by Seagultaf Sat Nov 02, 2013 10:56 pm

Useful utility player, but not one of the top 3/4 in any position:

10, Priestland, Biggar, Patchell
Centre: Davies, Roberts, Scott Williams, Beck
15, Halfpenny, Liam Williams, Byrne

Good goal kicker, some nice touches with the ball, but lacks pace, defence and concentration. Best chance will be as the "Swiss Army Knife" on the bench, but with a fit squad. I can see whoever does not play from Priestland and Biggar together with Liam Williams taking the outside back bench places.

Its a shame, great player on his day, but really needs to develop his game to rescue what was supposed to be a glittering career.

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Post by Brendan Sun Nov 03, 2013 3:39 am

I don't see why he wouldn't play in the less important games. He is doing really well for Perps which means his form has to be taken into account at some stage. If he played like it for one of the regions he would get game time.

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Post by Seagultaf Sun Nov 03, 2013 6:26 am

Brendan, playing for your country should be about being the best in your position not just having a few good games for your club. If it was the Wales side would look very different.

Hook can get away with 50 or 60 % performance for his club but at test level he gets found out. No doubt he has talent but does he really want it?

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Post by bedfordwelsh Sun Nov 03, 2013 7:39 am

Brendan wrote:I don't see why he wouldn't play in the less important games.  He is doing really well for Perps which means his form has to be taken into account at some stage.  If he played like it for one of the regions he would get game time.
Brendan,

He may well start against Tonga but then again so may Patchell or Biggar or Priestland. He was at one of the Regions and couldn't get a regular start at 10 then and the only Region with (potentially) room for him at the moment is the Dragons as the other 3 have the 3 current players selected ahead of him at 10.
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