Season 6 Homepage II

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 18 Nov 2013, 4:31 pm

First topic message reminder :

Breaking News: Falcons get back amongst the playoff contenders with a win over rivals Sale while the top two begin to draw away from the rest of the pack.

Season 6 Homepage II - Page 17 Aviva-Premiership-Trophy-e1306508139154

2012/2013 – Leicester Tigers
2011/2012 – Newcastle Falcons
2010/2011 - Newcastle Falcons
2009/2010 – Saracens
2008/2009 - London Irish

POS	Aviva Premiership	PLAYED	WON	DREW	LOST	P F	P A	P D	T F	T A	TBP	LBP	POINTS
1	Leicester Tigers	12	10	0	2	305	268	37	34	23	1	2	43
2	London Wasps #	12	10	0	2	300	266	34	30	23	1	2	42
3	Northampton Saints #	12	7	1	4	300	293	7	29	28	1	4	34
4	Sale Sharks #	12	6	3	3	307	294	13	31	26	1	3	32
5	Gloucester	12	6	1	5	294	279	15	28	25	1	5	31
6	Newcastle Falcons	12	5	3	4	290	293	-3	25	27	0	4	30
7	Harlequins #	12	5	2	5	304	297	7	31	27	2	5	29
8	London Irish #	12	5	1	6	301	280	21	32	26	1	6	27
9	Worcester Warriors #	12	3	3	6	274	297	-23	24	28	0	5	22
10	Saracens	12	3	1	8	247	273	-26	21	25	1	7	22
11	Exeter Chiefs	12	1	2	9	267	288	-21	21	28	0	9	17
12	Bath Rugby #	12	2	1	9	253	312	-59	23	35	0	7	13

Links

Fixture List
Released/Championship/National League/Academy Bidding
Foreign Transfers
Budgets
European Homepage
Anglo Welsh Homepage

Welcome to Season 6 of the Aviva Premiership fantasy rugby game. Below are the rules of the game which must be adhered to. If there are any situations that arise in the course of the game which are not covered by the rules, a final decision will be made by the RFU (SJE) as to how the situation will be resolved.

Senior Squads wrote:
The maximum squad size is 40 senior players. If a team has more than 40 players in their squad then they will be fined £1 million per player over the permitted amounts per day for the first seven days. If after 7 consecutive days a team still has more than the permitted number of players then the team will be fined £2 million per player per day, and fined 1 league point per player per day for the next seven days. If after this time a team still has more than the permitted number of players in their squad, the RFU (me) will remove players at its discretion to bring them back under the permitted numbers. There will be no right of appeal to players being removed.

Be aware that all tier one international matches which are played during the season will count in the game, and players selected in the match day 23's for those matches will not be eligible to play for their clubs on that weekend, therefore you must give due consideration to the make-up of your squad.

Academy Rules wrote:
Each team will be allowed to have an academy squad of 20 players. Players who are in the academy must be born on or after 1st September 1991.

Any player, who is at any Premiership club in real life, either in their senior, academy or AASE squads, can be bid for on the domestic bidding page. Players who are at your own club in real life and are coming through the academy system must be bid for if you want them in your own academy.

Transfers wrote:

Domestic (other AP Teams)
Each team has a budget to use in the purchase of players. Domestic transfers between AP clubs, regardless of nationality of player, should be negotiated between the respective managers, and then confirmed on the Domestic Transfer Confirmation Page.
Domestic (Championship and below)
Each team may during the season purchase no more than 5 players from the Championship or the National Leagues. These players must be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page, and each bid will be considered by me on its own merits before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.
Foreign
To make a foreign transfer (i.e. from any club outside of the AP, regardless of whether the player is English) a bid should be made on the Foreign Transfers Page, which will be considered by me against the posted guidelines for purchase prices before being accepted or rejected. No bid will be accepted until a minimum of 24 hours has elapsed from the time the bid was made, in order to afford other managers the opportunity to make a counter bid.

There will be a summer foreign transfer window, which will run as follows.

Structured Window

No cash will be used and each team will get effectively free transfers by way of a draft, which will run 12th, 11th, 10th …… 1st, 12th, 11th,10th… 1st place side. This will run from 10th June 2013 until all teams have had their two picks.

Open Window

Open transfer window, teams have unlimited bids provided they have the financial resources to cover them. Teams may only bid for one player at a time.

Player Releases wrote:
Managers may choose to release players from their clubs, for which they will be offered compensation

Compensation will be paid as follows

£2 million – current international (must have played international rugby in the previous 12 months)
£1.5 million – former international
£1m – top flight experience
£0.5m – other

All released players will be deemed to have joined a Championship side and can be bid for on the Domestic Transfer Bidding page.

Retirements wrote:
There will be no compensation for retiring players. Should a player who retires decide to come out of retirement and play again, then he will automatically go back to the club who he was playing for in the game when he retired.

Fixtures wrote:
There will be 22 Aviva Premiership games per season, plus the play offs. There will also be Heineken Cup, Amlin Challenge Cup and Anglo Welsh Cup matches. These games will take place once a week. A match thread will be put up every Monday. Home teams must be named by midnight on Tuesday. Away teams must be named by midnight on Wednesday. Both teams must provide tactics by midnight on Thursday. Predictions will be open from 00:01 hours on Friday and remain open until 20:00 hours on Saturday. Managers will post the scores that they think will happen from these games (apart from games in which they are involved). An average of all predictions will be taken, and then 0.5 points added to each teams score for each prediction that had them as the winner, and that will then be the final score.

Managers are asked to provide detail as to why they have predicted a result. To be considered a descriptive prediction this must be a full 3 lines long when entered into the text box. If you are not providing a descriptive prediction you will be restricted to predicting a 1 point win either way.

Teams wrote:
When naming your team, not only should you put the starting XV and replacements, but also tactics that your team will employ. Results will be affected by the tactics described.

In addition, each team must have the following:-

At least 10 England qualified players in your match day 23, and at least 4 of those must be in your starting XV.

At least 2 props and 1 hooker on the bench.

All players must be eligible (not injured or banned).

Failure to comply with these rules will result in forfeiting the match and a 1 league point deduction.

If you fail to submit a team for a match, then the other team will be automatically awarded a 30-0 bonus point win. If both teams fail to submit a team, then it will be scored as a 0-0 draw.

Injuries and Suspensions wrote:
Injuries in this game do NOT reflect real life, they will be generated by me.

Players banned in real life will be ineligible for selection in this game for the duration of the ban.

Inclusion of injured/banned players will result in them being replaced by players on the bench, and the bench not having eight players, which may result in punishment if it concerns the front-row.

Punishment for fielding an ineligible player will be loss of one match point for a first offence, two for a second offence and so on.

Financial Rewards wrote:
There will be no rewards for the result of an individual match, instead the managers will receive cash for predicting.

£2m for descriptive predictions
£0.25m for scores on the doors predictions
If you fail to predict without first advising me that you are unable to do so that week, you will be fined £1m for a first offence, £2m for a second offence, £3m for a third offence etc.

AP finishing positions.

Champions: 8m
Runners Up: 6m
Playoff Semi Finalist Losers: 5m
5th: 4m
6th: 3.5m
7th: 3m
8th: 2.5m
9th: 2m
10th: 1.5m
11th: 1m
12th: 0.5m

Heineken Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £2 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £3 million each
Runners Up - £4 million
Champions - £5 million

Amlin Challenge Cup

Losing Quarter Finalists - £1 million each
Losing Semi Finalists - £2 million each
Runners Up - £3 million
Champions - £4 million

Anglo-Welsh Cup

Losing Semi Finalist - £1 million each
Runners Up - £2 million
Champions - £3 million

If your budgets falls below minus £10 million for any reason, the administrators (ozzy3213) will step in and players from within your squad will be released for the relevant financial compensation in order to bring your budget back above minus £10 million.

by Sgt_Pooly Thu 23 Jan 2014, 4:02 pm

Really strong Irish side, it'll be a cracking game.

by CJB Thu 23 Jan 2014, 6:01 pm

SJE for next seasons are there any plans in the move down to 9 EQ in squad like was discussed as a possibility for this season

by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 23 Jan 2014, 8:04 pm

Dropping EQ limits will definitely be considered again mate. Will be up for discussion with all come the end of the season as well as any other possible changes

by Driver Fri 24 Jan 2014, 2:51 pm

14:51:36

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Dropping EQ limits will definitely be considered again mate. Will be up for discussion with all come the end of the season as well as any other possible changes

Newcastle Falcons support this!

by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 Jan 2014, 9:59 pm

Looks like Simpson will be down to 3rd choice at Wasps now:

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=41239

by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 24 Jan 2014, 10:21 pm

Chris is in Africa for two weeks isn't he??

by Sgt_Pooly Fri 24 Jan 2014, 10:23 pm

Haha....wasted!

by Guest Sat 25 Jan 2014, 12:34 am

Sgt_Pooly wrote:Looks like Simpson will be down to 3rd choice at Wasps now:

http://www.rugbyweek.com/news/article.asp?id=41239

Simpson a good player. Ben Youngs would kill for his kicking ability

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 8:51 am

Haha, sure he would.

Simpson been behind Matthews most of season. His basics are awful.

by Steven_Sharks Sat 25 Jan 2014, 8:59 am

How ever one eyed you are against Simpson, their is nothing wrong with his kicking or running game.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 9:06 am

His running game is amazing.

His basics are terrible, including kicking, passing etc.

Wasps fans, Austin Healy think he'd be a better winger as his basics are so bad.

by Guest Sat 25 Jan 2014, 9:09 am

Steven_Sharks wrote:How ever one eyed you are against Simpson, their is nothing wrong with his kicking or running game.

I agree Steve. His kicking game is much better than most of the EPS scrum halfs.

There must be something wrong with our coaching of scrum halves as apart from wiggles both care and Youngs do not posses great basics. None seem to have trained on. Youngs for example still takes that step before passing which kills the tens space.

Most tens prefer a peel, Robson, wiggles type 9 who clear the ruck quickly and deliver it on a plate.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 9:19 am

How did you throw Robson in there??? Always on the big up!

I take it you know nothing about scrum half play. When Youngs takes a few steps it's to draw the fringe defence in. As Flood plays so flat this gives him more time on the ball and opens up gaps that wouldn't have been there if the ball was just through straight out.

You obviously don't want to do this all the time as it becomes predictable, Youngs doesn't.

Pretty basic stuff really.

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 9:25 am

Anyway.....should be a cracking game later.

Is it 5pm kick off?

by Guest Sat 25 Jan 2014, 9:30 am

Threw robson in as he has great basics. His kicking
Game is superb which comes from playing so much 10.

You can tell you don't play rugby if you think the step is a good move.

Every pundit picks on his step before passing. Dewi Morris was pointing out that when he is in good form Youngs barely takes that step and clears the ruck quicker.

Flood and his standing so flat all the time does not help Youngs either. There is a time to stand flat and a time to sit in the pocket. Flood does not know when to drop back and is why he lost the ulster match by getting charged down.

by Guest Sat 25 Jan 2014, 9:34 am

Ticket says 5pm
Kick off but seen it as 5.30 every where else.

I have to play rugby and peg it to the ground to watch it. Should be a great game

by Guest Sat 25 Jan 2014, 9:57 am

Any of you lads like NFL?

Just managed to get tickets for one of the games at wembley

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 10:04 am

I think we'll agree to disagree on the scrum half play. I've played 10/12 so don't patronise me.

Just because you've played to a tin pot level doesn't mean you know anymore.

Youngs also played 10, probably a similar time Robson did. A few steps is a good move if used correctly, Genia does it all the time, especially when playing with Cooper.....I'm guessing you've not seen that.

by prop_lyd Sat 25 Jan 2014, 10:54 am

I'm hoping to catch one of the games at wembley matt, really got into nfl past few years, watching my mate play the varsity game (welsh one) next sunday

by Guest Sat 25 Jan 2014, 10:58 am

Got tickets to the raiders game.

Been to watch NFL in Los Angeles many years ago and saw it in Chicago also and did not enjoy it that much.

However like yourself I have got more into it and understand a lot more of the nuances of it so I think I will enjoy it a lot more this time

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 1:29 pm

Will Greenwoods 6N team:

1. Vunipola
2. Hartley
3. Cole
4. Launchbury
5. Lawes
6. Wood
7. Robshaw
8. Vuinipola

(Pack picks itself)

9. Youngs
10. Farrell
11. Watson
12. Burrell
13. Hopper
14. Ashton
15. Brown

Interesting backline

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 5:14 pm

Burns has zero control so far, he's awful

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 5:43 pm

Terrible 1st half.

No control from halfbacks at all. Lock combo too weak at breakdown. Wallace anonymous, getting schooled T breakdown.

Daly only positive

by Steven_Sharks Sat 25 Jan 2014, 6:36 pm

I really like the look of Anthony Watson

by Steven_Sharks Sat 25 Jan 2014, 6:38 pm

And Rob Miller has had a cracking little cameo as has Dickinson

by Sgt_Pooly Sat 25 Jan 2014, 6:43 pm

Watson done ok on limited ball, Miller & Dickinson good off bench.

Simpson & Burns absolutely dreadful, so far from Int quality it's unreal.

England back 5 poor throughout, lock combo offered nothing. Wallace was dreadful.

Last play sums Burns night up. Wtf did he do with ball, and wtf was he thinking a try in the corner would be enough when we need 7 and he's kicked nothing all game.

by Guest Sat 25 Jan 2014, 11:14 pm

Aussie mate sent me this.
Steve you will
Love it http://m.couriermail.com.au/sport/rugby/startling-statistics-show-quade-cooper-is-tackling-better-than-richie-mccaw/story-fnii0ksb-1226739840019

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 12:08 am

I went to the match and my opinion is that we were never going to win with the lack of experience in the team.

Also the conditions were horrific. I played earlier in the day and our game was stopped due to hale stones then excessive wind and finally at 70 minutes due to being so dark at 4 pm. It looked like world would end.

There is a RAC control centre next to where we played and in recorded 97mph winds. It was swirling also.

Same conditions at kings holm tonight.

Dickinson miller George daly and hill(brief period he was on) were good.

Burns terrible and our locks were awful around park.

I think ewers is a talent but always say he is too upright and not fit enough.this was proven today. Irish humiliated him. Irish 7 is quality.

Watson is a superstar in the making.
So exciting with the ball. His positioning was all over the place but for me he looks real deal. Also thought young Wilson looks
A hell of a player.
Was excellent and improved scrum. Only 19 apparently.

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 1:21 am

Telegraph and guardian report England backs of

Dickson Farrell may 36 Burrell Nowell brown for next week. If so I am horrified

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 2:46 am

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jan/25/six-nations-2014-six-players-england-scotland-wales

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 Jan 2014, 9:25 am

I thought George was very quiet. Him and Waller scrummed well but weren't particularly good.

Bad tactics and poorly executed. Beaten upfront and shocking 9/10.

by stnick88 Sun 26 Jan 2014, 12:53 pm

Matt what would your backline be?

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 1:24 pm

Nick for me I would have

9 Wiggles
10 Faz
11 May
12 36
13 Daly
14 Watson
15 Brown

My rationale for this selection is partly due to us being down to the bare bones in certain positions.

Lancaster has said that he is going to give the young guns a chance so Watson has to be in there ahead of Nowell. Yes his positioning is bit great but he has that something about him.

Wiggles is a no brainer for
Me as we plan to kick a lot.

36 should be asked to play a physical 12 role he is over 17 stone and needs to play to his weight. I read mcheechan saying the same today. When he plays well for glos which is not often he takes it up a lot and he needs to do it more.

The reason for Daly is he is a more natural 13. Also he is a better defender than Burrell who has been shown up a lot at 12 defensively. 13 is the hardest place to defend in rugby so putting a guy there who does not really play that position is silly.

Also 36 is not the greatest defender either so Burrell and 36 would mean pairing 2 average defenders together in the centre.

Daly is not an offensive tackler but he rarely missed his man and is surprisingly strong.

Lancaster says he wants to play people who could be in the World Cup team so he needs to be bolder.

I am off to Paris for the weekend to watch the game and for me I would rather see us lose and play a team that has potential to develop for the World Cup than play a team to win a 6 nations game

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 1:25 pm

Also I would not be averse to playing May at 13. He is great there and has shown in the heino this year that it could be an option

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 1:35 pm

Also I would not be averse to playing May at 13. He is great there and has shown in the heino this year that it could be an option

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 Jan 2014, 2:21 pm

May's defence isn't up to centre.

Burrell started his career at 13

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 4:25 pm

Starting your career at 13 means very little really as most people start career in a different position.

If he can't defend 12 very well then I imagine 13 would be much worse. Especially against fofana.

I like Burrell but he looks like a good ap player and nowhere near international class. Particularly in defence.

Lancaster will pick him 13 so I will get to see how it goes next Saturday.

Some players take to int rugby naturally so I may get proven wrong but I would bet a pretty penny Burrell will get less than 10 caps in his career. We need Manu back badly

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 4:29 pm

Both centre positions we are weak in. Can't remember England ever being so week there. Depth at 9 and 10 a huge issue also

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 Jan 2014, 4:55 pm

He played most of his younger years at 13 so I can't imagine it'll be a problem.

Manu aside all of our centres are average or unknown. Burrell is form centre in England so worth a punt.

We could have Nonu and Smith there, they're not got going to get good ball off a Dickson/Farrell combo.....dreadful.

by Fluxy Sun 26 Jan 2014, 5:05 pm

After an decent 8 if anyone is up for a dealio

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 5:40 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:He played most of his younger years at 13 so I can't imagine it'll be a problem.

Manu aside all of our centres are average or unknown. Burrell is form centre in England so worth a punt.

We could have Nonu and Smith there, they're not got going to get good ball off a Dickson/Farrell combo.....dreadful.

Can't disagree with him being give a chance at 12 as he is the form 12 in AP.but playing him out of position is not fair too him. We are setting him up to fail

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 Jan 2014, 6:21 pm

Maybe 36 will play 13?

I think we're trying to mirror Manu playing 13, seems SL wants distributor at 12 and gain line breaker at 13.

by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 26 Jan 2014, 9:16 pm

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Know its only AW but getting this out now for the 6 nations!

If a player is called up changes have to be made by 9am Friday so the thread can be updated. If not done so punishments apply!

by Guest Sun 26 Jan 2014, 10:42 pm

SJE I will not predict this weekend as in Paris for 6 nations

by CJB Sun 26 Jan 2014, 11:39 pm

Lads, Slipper or Faumuania at LH?

by Sgt_Pooly Sun 26 Jan 2014, 11:46 pm

Slipper

by Guest Mon 27 Jan 2014, 8:00 am

Slipper. Charlie is a tighthead who struggles at 1

by SirJohnnyEnglish Mon 27 Jan 2014, 9:37 am

anonmattyt wrote:SJE I will not predict this weekend as in Paris for 6 nations

Enjoy Matt!

by Sgt_Pooly Mon 27 Jan 2014, 1:38 pm

Rumours.....

Barcella & Fofana to Leicester

Yarde to Quins (done deal apparently??)

by Guest Mon 27 Jan 2014, 2:26 pm

I have seen Yarde deal finalised on lots of sites. Can't see why anyone would sign Barcella. He looks a broken man and gets hammered in the scrums these days. Odd signing

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