Which international team do you dislike the most?

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With me it always used to be the English. The fans are ok but the players and media associated were so arrogant and smug

Recently though it has to be the Irish what with the whining bitterness that we had this year with O' Driscoll not being good enough to make the starting 15 for the final test

I enjoy watching both teams lose to be honest but when they play each other next il probably cheer on England

What about you lot then folks...whos your most disliked international team?

Scratch wrote:More bile from quinsforever….i wonder if he can go for 24hrs without his insecurity demanding he take some pathetic swipe at 'Wales fans'.

Go on, i bet you can't.

ALL Wales fans must be deluded and over sensitive. Really?

I wonder how he would react if a Welsh fan said that about England

Not going to lower myself to your level quoins by attacking your fellow fans, but you really do behave like pond life sometimes

I fear you may have done just that. What does Quoins mean btw?

In some ways it used to be England for obvious reasons, in fact after I got home inebriated last night I got rather upset during a re-run of "World Cup winners: Ten years on" when England yet again bet Australia. A Scottish win over England still gives me the most satisfaction but our poor record against Wales in recent years coupled with a dislike for Warren Gatland I now dislike the Welsh team more than any other having said that I have nothing against Welsh people and there are few better sights than George North at full flight it's just that every time your team plays I really want you to lose.

quinsforever must have had a torrid time living in Wales to have such a dislike for us. Might I just say that I got criticised for pointing out his anti-welsh bias the other day... I'll accept your apologies.

The Saint wrote:quinsforever must have had a torrid time living in Wales to have such a dislike for us. Might I just say that I got criticised for pointing out his anti-welsh bias the other day... I'll accept your apologies.

i like wales
i like welsh rugby and all its traditions
i like the welsh

but

some people are just too precious for words, and their oversensitivity to any criticism leads them to lash out at all perceived wrongdoers.

for goodness's sake, toughen up man. get a bit of a thicker skin. do you think any english fans get bothered by the "arrogant" tag?

for as long as you continue to be easily upset, you are going to be often upset.

tigerleghorn wrote:What does Quoins mean btw?

They're the cornerstone of every argument.

Us Bristol lads have always had a special affinity with the welsh!

every team above Wales , i hate them enormously for 80 minutes that i would glady pin the hell out of fifteen voodoo dolls but after wards Im back to my jolly happy self

That a lot of hate in 80 minutes mate.

The Welsh are probably my least favourite team in world rugby.

I don't go overboard. But they are pretty annoying.

Biltong wrote:That a lot of hate in 80 minutes mate.

unless Wales are winning

I referred to this earlier in the thread. It was a pointless question to ask because everyone already knew the answer is Wales.

Haters gon' hate, 'mirers gon' mire.

quinsforever wrote:

The Saint wrote:quinsforever must have had a torrid time living in Wales to have such a dislike for us. Might I just say that I got criticised for pointing out his anti-welsh bias the other day... I'll accept your apologies.

i like wales
i like welsh rugby and all its traditions
i like the welsh

but

some people are just too precious for words, and their oversensitivity to any criticism leads them to lash out at all perceived wrongdoers.

for goodness's sake, toughen up man. get a bit of a thicker skin. do you think any english fans get bothered by the "arrogant" tag?

for as long as you continue to be easily upset, you are going to be often upset.

too precious for words….oversensitive...this from the guy who says that being called 'laddy' by a Scot is 'patronizing and 'offensive'

for goodness sake quins….toughen up man.  

Awful negative thread, sounds like the OP has a chip or two on his shoulder.  Can't say I particularly dislike any team as a whole but I'd least like to go for a few drinks with the Welsh.  Boring shower of teetotalers

Scratch wrote:

quinsforever wrote:

The Saint wrote:quinsforever must have had a torrid time living in Wales to have such a dislike for us. Might I just say that I got criticised for pointing out his anti-welsh bias the other day... I'll accept your apologies.

i like wales
i like welsh rugby and all its traditions
i like the welsh

but

some people are just too precious for words, and their oversensitivity to any criticism leads them to lash out at all perceived wrongdoers.

for goodness's sake, toughen up man. get a bit of a thicker skin. do you think any english fans get bothered by the "arrogant" tag?

for as long as you continue to be easily upset, you are going to be often upset.

too precious for words….oversensitive...this from the guy who says that being called 'laddy' by a Scot is 'patronizing and 'offensive'  

for goodness sake quins….toughen up man.  

the issue was dealt with up front and reasonably and there hasnt been an uncivil word since then regarding the repeated laddy references or my perceived rudeness to him. Because thats what grown ups do. they dont get upset, they raise the issue calmly, people come to an understanding, then an agreement, and life goes on with both parties happier.

that was a communication issue. nothing to do with oversensitivity. he was a bit annoyed at my perceived personal slights, so i got the "laddy" tag. issue resolved and we are all good. was something between two adults. i dont expect you to understand scratch.

the oversensitivity i refer to, and i am amused to see that the wales seems to be receiving the majority of prizes on this thread rather than england, is of certain posters in relation to criticism of their national team. thats not personal. yet the sense of outrage is something worthy of a blackadder episode.

i notice you have been plenty oversensitive to any perceived slights of the welsh national team, the welsh fanboys, yourself, anyone else i am communicating with.

you win this thread's oversensitive award, congratulations.  

      

Quins and I disagree with on many topics - but he makes his point logically and coherently and shows no bias at from being a passionate fan. Deluded englishman perhaps but they are ten a penny

jimmyinthewell68 wrote:every team above Wales , i hate them enormously  for 80 minutes that i would glady pin the hell out of  fifteen voodoo dolls  but after wards Im back to my jolly happy self

Fifteen wow Wales have slipped further down the rankings than I thought  

I hate the Irish,sorry i mean Ireland, always right have serious clout behind the scenes at the IRB have way to many refs ruining good games,the choke tackle is so dam boring and such a dumb move when they have such a crap scrum,Jamie Heaslips turn in his eye,BOD thinks he is God from one good game in 2001,Sexton! a face i would never tier punching,Horgan always a mile ahead of the kicker,every single Irish forward always blocking and off side at the ruck.

I don't hate England i pity them,head so far up their own ass they can't see how bloody average they are,like the Black Knight of Monty python the denial of every being well beat is nauseating.

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:I hate the Irish,sorry i mean Ireland, always right have serious clout behind the scenes at the IRB have way to many refs ruining good games,the choke tackle is so dam boring and such a dumb move when they have such a crap scrum,Jamie Heaslips turn in his eye,BOD thinks he is God from one good game in 2001,Sexton! a face i would never tier punching,Horgan always a mile ahead of the kicker,every single Irish forward always blocking and off side at the ruck.

I don't hate England i pity them,head so far up their own ass they can't see how bloody average they are,like the Black Knight of Monty python the denial of every being well beat is nauseating.

Oh the irony....  

tigerleghorn wrote:

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:I hate the Irish,sorry i mean Ireland, always right have serious clout behind the scenes at the IRB have way to many refs ruining good games,the choke tackle is so dam boring and such a dumb move when they have such a crap scrum,Jamie Heaslips turn in his eye,BOD thinks he is God from one good game in 2001,Sexton! a face i would never tier punching,Horgan always a mile ahead of the kicker,every single Irish forward always blocking and off side at the ruck.

I don't hate England i pity them,head so far up their own ass they can't see how bloody average they are,like the Black Knight of Monty python the denial of every being well beat is nauseating.

Couldn't agree more Dave, as usual you have hit the nail smack on the head,just don't let the fact we fluked a win v Australia worry you,i doubt we will get out of our group this coming world cup 

Thanks mate  

At the moment, Australia, because they beat us twice in the summer tour we had there in the last minute and again in the autumn with a last minute try.

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:

tigerleghorn wrote:

DeludedOptimistorjustDave wrote:I hate the Irish,sorry i mean Ireland, always right have serious clout behind the scenes at the IRB have way to many refs ruining good games,the choke tackle is so dam boring and such a dumb move when they have such a crap scrum,Jamie Heaslips turn in his eye,BOD thinks he is God from one good game in 2001,Sexton! a face i would never tier punching,Horgan always a mile ahead of the kicker,every single Irish forward always blocking and off side at the ruck.

I don't hate England i pity them,head so far up their own ass they can't see how bloody average they are,like the Black Knight of Monty python the denial of every being well beat is nauseating.

Couldn't agree more Dave, as usual you have hit the nail smack on the head,just don't let the fact we fluked a win v Australia worry you,i doubt we will get out of our group this coming world cup 

Thanks mate  

So very you View

Finland. More passing and catching in the snow to please the IRB, and fewer superb gold medal performances at the Winter Olympics - that's what's needed!

I hate England because of quinsforever...  

Where does this lad, Steffan, come from?

If I'm guessing right then that's a Big surprise that he hates us so much  So does their coach, so 'allegedly'did all their players.... so did the ballboy.

I don't dislike any side, though I will usually support the underdog or the home nations, or Canada or Australia after them due to relatives. There are some players and fans that I dislike, however

Probably Samoa. They play dirty and never get called on it for some reason... It's true that they are not the only dirty team in history, but the teams that have gone through a dirty period usually pay for it by having their reputation tarnished for a long while. Samoa on the other hand are still media darlings although game after game they lose their heads and put players at risk. But the response it always a muted, "oh well, there goes Samoa again." Not to mention the public outburst from the players.

rainbow-warrior wrote:has to be england for sooooooooo many reasons and on soooooooooooooooooooo many levels.  I guess it should be some team Wales can not beat but no, still england

No I agree with your first thought. It should be a team Wales cannot beat. Say Japan!

Dear oh dear.

Aussie cricket team at the moment! God I hope Anderson sends Clarkes middle stump flying first ball next test. I'd love it I tell yer, love it... 

Smug and arrogant Steff. Not a reader of the Western mail then?

tigerleghorn wrote:

Scratch wrote:More bile from quinsforever….i wonder if he can go for 24hrs without his insecurity demanding he take some pathetic swipe at 'Wales fans'.

Go on, i bet you can't.

ALL Wales fans must be deluded and over sensitive. Really?

I wonder how he would react if a Welsh fan said that about England

Not going to lower myself to your level quoins by attacking your fellow fans, but you really do behave like pond life sometimes

I fear you may have done just that. What does Quoins mean btw?

It's Quade Cooper's middle name.

I dislike the majority of the welsh 'fans' who go to the national games in november and then the 6N but don't even have a club (or region) they support. They come down in droves from Abertwp etc for a 'day out in cardiff like' and just get drunk with no care for the game itself or even the rules. Case in point:

During the Wales/Tonga match near the beggining there was a lineout and the camera focused in on it. Instead of actually watching the game the morons were jumping about waving because they're on TV.

Then there was a mexican wave in the first 10 minutes too.

We should limit first up ticket sales to season ticket holders of the regions and welsh premiership clubs. At least then fans who are knowledgeable and respectful of the game can go without worry of having some pink cowboy hat slapper, stinking of cheap vodka that she's hidden in her handbag and clutching an inflatable dafodil pointing at a wales player and going "Who's that then?"

Saying all that...i'm at the stadium for the game on saturday

Which international team do I dislike the most? I'll be honest and say it's England. Not because of the players and certainly not because of the fans, but because of something entirely out of their hands, and not even exclusively rugby-related: the way English news automatically becomes national news, be it sport or anything else.

A couple of examples: on the opening day of the 2011 World Cup, Charlie Stayt on BBC Breakfast said, "the rugby World Cup kicks off in New Zealand today - we'll be assessing England's chances." Another example was when the Lions squad was announced; the headline was that England's captain had missed out, but there wasn't even a mention that Scotland's captain had missed out too.

As I say, not English players' or fans' fault at all, but it does mean I enjoy a touch of the old schadenfreude when they come unstuck.

Also..the pink cowboy hatters and day-trippers provide much of the "partytime" noise, which encourages even serious minded coaches (Gatland) to see the impact of a closed roof on the acoustics of that noise.

Don't knock the day-tripping, "look Mom, I'm on TV" crowd too much.

gcBlues wrote:I dislike the majority of the welsh 'fans' who go to the national games in november and then the 6N but don't even have a club (or region) they support. They come down in droves from Abertwp etc for a 'day out in cardiff like' and just get drunk with no care for the game itself or even the rules. Case in point:

During the Wales/Tonga match near the beggining there was a lineout and the camera focused in on it. Instead of actually watching the game the morons were jumping about waving because they're on TV.

Then there was a mexican wave in the first 10 minutes too.

We should limit first up ticket sales to season ticket holders of the regions and welsh premiership clubs. At least then fans who are knowledgeable and respectful of the game can go without worry of having some pink cowboy hat slapper, stinking of cheap vodka that she's hidden in her handbag and clutching an inflatable dafodil pointing at a wales player and going "Who's that then?"

Saying all that...i'm at the stadium for the game on saturday

I will admit its disheartening not being able to get tickets for matches, but it seems like I have people on my Facebook who post that they're in the stadium watching it live who have no clue who anyone in the Welsh team is except for a handful of the stars or anyone on the opposing team.

Biltong wrote:I don't dislike any team, there are some teams I favour, but if SA is not playing I tend to support the underdog.

So you're basically saying you support anyone but New Zealand. Such a stirrer.....

 

Steffan wrote:With me it always used to be the English. The fans are ok but the players and media associated were so arrogant and smug

Recently though it has to be the Irish what with the whining bitterness that we had this year with O' Driscoll not being good enough to make the starting 15 for the final test

I enjoy watching both teams lose to be honest but when they play each other next il probably cheer on England

What about you lot then folks...whos your most disliked international team?

It really is only non-Irish that keep rehashing or bringing up the Lions debacle yet the Irish are called bitter. How do such posters not see the irony in this?

Dislike is a bit negative and not one I associate with rugby fans....unless you are not from  in which case understandly you hate the English.

As a proud Englishman I generally want the Northern Hemisphere to do well and also support the underdog. Exceptions over the years have tended to be only in retaliation to acts from other countries. i.e. I was not too fond of Scotland after they wore Aussie scarfs at Twickers for 91 RWC final and I then went to Murryfield for the inaugral 7s RWC when I discovered for the first time that other people really do hate England. But now I just have sympathy for Scotland and their supporters

Generally though it is a NO to dislike and a YES to supporting one side more than the other.

Japan.

Fantasticbarnsmell wrote:Probably Samoa. They play dirty and never get called on it for some reason... It's true that they are not the only dirty team in history, but the teams that have gone through a dirty period usually pay for it by having their reputation tarnished for a long while. Samoa on the other hand are still media darlings although game after game they lose their heads and put players at risk. But the response it always a muted, "oh well, there goes Samoa again." Not to mention the public outburst from the players.

 
 
Couldn't agree more, really liked them until the '95 world cup 1/4final.  Find it nauseating hearing how tough and uncompromising they are during each flurry of clothesline tackles and late shoulder charges.  Added to that the screaming about racism and facebook/twitter threats when anything goes against them.  Was so glad that Georgia turned them over.

Which international team do you dislike the most?

I don't dislike any but as an Englishman I like to see the big 3 SH teams lose.

[quote="Scrumpy"]Which international team do you dislike the most?

I don't dislike any but as an Englishman I like to see the big 3 SH teams lose.[/quote]
What a hilarious thread.

As a sportsman of senior years I have never hated any team or player.

Its sport not war

Scotland - because I have lost any faith whatsoever in them or their rank, rotten coaches.

Galted wrote:

Fantasticbarnsmell wrote:Probably Samoa. They play dirty and never get called on it for some reason... It's true that they are not the only dirty team in history, but the teams that have gone through a dirty period usually pay for it by having their reputation tarnished for a long while. Samoa on the other hand are still media darlings although game after game they lose their heads and put players at risk. But the response it always a muted, "oh well, there goes Samoa again." Not to mention the public outburst from the players.

 
 
Couldn't agree more, really liked them until the '95 world cup 1/4final.

That's when I saw them the first time and something clicked, ever ince then they are kinda one of my favourites. Every game we play against them (and we tend to meet them in almost every world cup) it is tough, physical and uncompromising.

I must admit though, I was very peeved off when Frans Steyn got injured in the 2011 RWC natch against them, he was our form player up to that game.

Biltong where is Frans Steyn at the moment? dropped or injured?

Biltong wrote:

Galted wrote:

Fantasticbarnsmell wrote:Probably Samoa. They play dirty and never get called on it for some reason... It's true that they are not the only dirty team in history, but the teams that have gone through a dirty period usually pay for it by having their reputation tarnished for a long while. Samoa on the other hand are still media darlings although game after game they lose their heads and put players at risk. But the response it always a muted, "oh well, there goes Samoa again." Not to mention the public outburst from the players.

 
 
Couldn't agree more, really liked them until the '95 world cup 1/4final.

That's when I saw them the first time and something clicked, ever ince then they are kinda one of my favourites. Every game we play against them (and we tend to meet them in almost every world cup) it is tough, physical and uncompromising.

I must admit though, I was very peeved off when Frans Steyn got injured in the 2011 RWC natch against them, he was our form player up to that game.

  I'm sure Andre Joubert's throat would disagree with you.

One of the funniest things I've seen in rugby was Brian Lima knocking himself out in the 2007 RWC with a tough, physical and uncompromising/late and high tackle - can't remember the intended victim but I'm sure it was against SA.

I have never considered that I dislike any International team, but there are fans of some International teams that could with a slap.

Personally i don't dislike any team or country. As for the fans of countries, well they just add to the banter and i don't mind a bit of banter

I am always grateful for the Welsh fans, i shudder to think of a world without girls in pink cowboy hats with teeth that could eat apples through a tennis racket appearing on my tv during Welsh games

Nachos Jones wrote:
I am always grateful for the Welsh fans, i shudder to think of a world without girls in pink cowboy hats with teeth that could eat apples through a tennis racket appearing on my tv during Welsh games

You should have written Orange girls in pink cowboy hats....

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" You can, you must"
"but, it's wrong....."

"no it isn't, do it"

"but it won't help...."

"it will, you'll feel better"

"will I.....I don't know"

"do it, do it....go on, be strong"

"OK...OK...

The Brazilian Women's Beach volleyball team.

They don't call me back, they don't write....

What is a "restraining order" anyway?