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Post by Fluxy Mon 06 Jan 2014, 8:18 pm

Home teams to be named by midnight on Tuesday
Away teams to be named by midnight on Wednesday
Tactics to be provided by midnight on Thursday

Predictions by 15:00 hours on Sunday
 
 


 
Pool 1 - Ospreys vs Gloucester Rugby  
Location - Liberty Stadium
Sunny, 7 degrees, 5mph Westerly Winds


Ospreys

01. Ryan Bevington09. Rhys Webb
02. Richard Hibbard10. Dan Biggar
03. Aaron Jarvis
04. Tyler Ardron11. Jeff Hassler
05. James King12. Ben John
06. Sam Lewis13. Thomas Isaacs
07. Justin Tipuric14. Aisea Natoga
08. Joe Bearman15. Sam Davies

Replacements: 16 Scott Baldwin, 17 Marc Thomas, 18 Dan Suter, 19 Morgan Allen, 20 Sam Williams, 21 Tom Habberfield, 22 Matthew Morgan, 23 Tom Grabham.


Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt

01. Nick Wood 09. Will Genia 
02. Joe Grey 10. Danny Cipriani 
03. Jamie Johnstone  
04. Richie Grey 11. Johnny May 
05. George Robson  12. Matt Scott 
06. Tom Croft 13. Tevita Kuridrani 
07. AkapusiQera 14. Charlie Walker 
08. Jamie Heaslip 15. Israel Folau 

16 Guthro Steenkamp 17 Rupert Harden 18 Adrian Strauss 19 Tom Palmer 20 Sam Dickinson  21 Connor Murray 22 Dan Carter 23 Juan de Jongh





 
Pool 2 - Northampton Saints vs Glasgow Warriors
Location - Franklin Gardens
Sunny, 6 degrees, 9mph North Westerly Winds


Northampton Saints

01. Mako Vunipola09. Joe Simpson
02. Dylan Hartley (c)10. George Ford
03. Carl Hayman
04. Dean Mumm11. Julian Savea
05. Joe Launchberry12. Matt Giteau
06. Calum Clarke13. Manu Tuilagi
07. Sam Cane14. Jamie Elliott
08. Sergio Parisse15. Ben Foden

16. TPN 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Henry Thomas 19. Steven Luatua 20. CJ Stander 21. Mike Phillips 22. Ian Madigan 23. Jordan Williams



Key selection points:
* Beat Glasgow upfront in the pack, far strong front five to set a good attacking platform. Pack is very fresh and has been rested over last few weeks to target HC.
* Team selected to play high intensity, fast-paced attacking game to make best of conditions, run Glasgow all over the field and look for tries from the off. Aim to wear down Glasgow defensively before we bring on the bench.
* Huge impact bench to bring on in second half and finish final 30 minutes very strongly
* Win the collisions and gainline battle.
* Unbeaten in Europe in 18 months, Glasgow been beaten in all games so far comfortably and bottom of the group. Will look to score tries.  

Tactics:Saints will play a high intensity/tempo'd game from the outset and take the game to Glasgow. We will look to place Bath under pressure with a really physical, aggressive approach and defence to force errors and mistakes to exploit. We will look to win the gainline battle and the collisions with our big ball carriers and generate quick ball for our backline. We want the game to be open and expansive and have picked a backline that can score tries from anywhere. Bench to really hit Glasgow hard in final 30 minutes to target a high scoring game.





Glasgow Warriors

01. Ryan Grant09. Nikola Matawalu
02. Pat MacArthur10. Ruaridh Jackson
03. Jon Welsh
04. Leone Nakarawa11. Tommy Seymour
05. Al Kellock (c)12. Alex Dunbar
06. Rob Harley13. Byron McGuigan
07. Tyrone Holmes14. Sean Maitland
08. Ryan Wilson15. Stuart Hogg

Replacements: 16 Dougie Hall, 17 Jerry Yanuyanutawa, 18 Ed Kalman, 19 Josh Strauss, 20 Chris Fusaro, 21 Chris Cusiter, 22 Duncan Weir , 23 DTH van der Merwe.






 
Pool 3 - London Wasps vs Zebre 
Location - Adams Park
Sunny, 6 degrees, 7mph Westerly Winds


Heineken Cup Round Five 6London Wasps
Manager  Ozzy3213

01. Paul James09. Aaron Smith
02. Rob Hawkins10. Camille Lopez
03. Martin Castrogiovanni
04. Sitaleki Timani11. Jack Nowell
05. George Skivington ©12. Pat McCabe
06. Tom Johnson13. Tim Nanai-Williams
07. Luke Wallace14. Marland Yarde
08. Fotu Auelua15. Anthony Watson

16. Deon Fourie 17. Fraser Balmain 18. Tom Mercey 19. Romain Millo-Chluski 20. Blair Cowan 21.Sebastien Tillous-Borde 22. Elton Jantjies 23. JJ Englebrecht

Basic Game Plan
In dry conditions we will be looking to play a possession game, using big carriers to go through the phases and suck in defenders before spinning it wide.  We will look to offload in or just before the tackle and keep the ball alive to play at a high tempo.  Our back row will look to support and hit rucks hard to free up quick ball.  

In defence, as always we will be running a blitz defence.  Our focus will be on the gainline collisions and driving back in the tackle.  Line speed and no dog-legs will be key components for us.  Smith will sweep in behind the defensive line to counter any chips/grubbers.


Zebre

01. Matias Aguero09. Brendon Leonard
02. Andrea Manici10. Luciano Orquera
03. Luciano Leibson
04. Quentin Geldenhuys11. Giovanni Venditti
05. Marco Bortolami (c)12. Kameli Ratuvou
06. Mauro Bergamasco13. Roberto Quartaroli
07. Nicola Cattina14. Leonardo Sarto
08. Samu Vunisa15. Guglielmo Palazzani

Replacements: 16 Davide Giazzon, 17 Andrea De Marchi, 18 Dario Chistolini, 19 Emiliano Caffini, 20 Michael Van Vuuren, 21 Alberto Chillon, 22 Tommaso Iannone , 23 Giulio Toniolatti




 
Pool 3 - Toulouse vs Leicester Tigers
Location - Stade Ernest-Wallon
Light Cloud, 12 degrees, 6mph South Easterly Winds


Toulouse

01. Schalk Ferreira09. Jean-Marc Doussain
02. Christopher Tolofua10. Lionel Beauxis
03. Census Johnston
04. Romain Millo-Chulski11. Maxime Medard
05. Yoann Maestri12. Yann David
06. Yannick Nyanga13. Florian Fritz
07. Thierry Dusautoir (c)14. Clement Poitrenaud
08. Louis Picamoles15. Yoann Huget

Replacements: 16 Chiliboy Ralepelle, 17 Guthro Steenkamp, 18 Yohan Montes , 19 Joe Tekori, 20 Gillan Galan, 21 Sebastien Bezy, 22 Hosea Gear, 23 Gael Fickou.


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01. Andrew Sheridan   09. Kahn Fotuali'i
02. Stephen Moore10. Jonny Wilkinson (k)
03. Dan Cole
04. Nathan Hines11. Ugo Monye
05. Kearnan Myall12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Sean O'Brien13. Brian O'Driscoll
07. Jacques Burger14. Drew Mitchell
08. Edwin Maka15. Mike Brown

16. Charlie Clare 17. Gethin Jenkins 18. Craig Mitchell 19. James Horwill 20. James Scaysbrook 21. Micky Young 22. Pat Lambie 23. Tamati Ellison



 
Pool 4 - Newcastle Falcons vs ASM Clermont Auvergne
Location - Kingston Park
Sunny, 4 degrees, 12mph South Westerly Winds


Newcastle Falcons

Manager – Driver

01.Matt Mullen09.Ben Youngs
02.Dane Coles10.Dan Bigger (K)
03.Owen Franks
04.Ed Slater11.Charlie Sharples
05.Juandre Kruger12.Brad Barritt
06.Juan Smith13.Rene Ranger
07.Richie McCaw14.Charles Pitatau
08.Kieron Read (C)15.Alex Goode

16.Darren Dawiduik 17.Soana Tonga'uhia 18.Scotty Wilson 19.Kelly Brown 20.Dave Ewers 21.Dave Lewis 22.Aaron Cruden 23.James O'Connor

Falcons to play a high tempo game moving the ball into space and punching holes in the Clermount defence with Bigger attacking the spaces with his wide pass.

Tonga for Mullen , Brown for McCaw , Ewers for Read , Cruden for Bigger and JOC for Goode will all keep tempo high for 80 minutes.




ClermonAuvergne

01. Thomas Domingo09. Thierry Lacrampe
02. Benjamin Kayser10. Marc Delany
03. Clement Ric
04. Jamie Cudmore11. Napolioni Nalaga
05. Julien Pierre12. Regan King 
06. Julien Bonnaire13. Aurelien Rougerie (c)
07. Julien Bardy14. Sitiveni Sivivatu
08. Damien Chouly15. Jean-Marcel Buttin

Replacements: 16 Ti'i Paulo, 17 Vincent Debaty, 18 Rapheal Chaume, 19 Nathan Hines, 20 Fritz Lee, 21 Ludovic Radosavljevic, 22 Benson Stanley, 23 Seru Nakaitaci .




 
Pool 5 - Treviso vs Harlequins
Location - Stadio Comunale di Monigo
Light Cloud, 11 degrees, 1mph North Westerly Winds


Benetton Treviso

01. Michele Rizzo09. Tobias Botes
02. Leonardo Ghiraldini10. Alberto di Bernardo
03. Lorenzo Cittadini
04. Antonio Pavanello (c)11. Luke McLean
05. Cornelius Van Zyl12. Alberto Sgarbi
06. Alessandro Zanni13. Ludovico Nitoglia
07. Manoa Vosawai14. Eduardo Gori
08. Robert Barbieri15. Brendan Williams

Replacements: 16 Giovanni Maistri, 17 Ignacio Fernandez Rouyet, 18 Alberto De Marchi, 19 Valerio Bernabo, 20 Dean Budd, 21 Paul Derbyshire, 22. Michele Campagnaro, 23 James Ambrosini.




Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Joe Marler09. Greig Laidlaw (k)
02. Rob Buchanan10. Freddie Burns
03. Kieran Brookes
04. Pieter Steph Du Toit11. Topsy Ojo
05. Steve Borthwick12. Jan Serfontein
06. Jamie Gibson13. Ben Tapuai
07. Sam Warburton (c)14. Frank Halai
08. Pierre Spies15. Andre Taylor

16. Gary Botha 17. Ben Franks 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Hugh Pyle 20. Luke Braid 21. Karl Dickson 22. Dan Bowden 23. Anthony Faainga

Tactics

Retain possession in the Treviso half with carriers off 9 and 10 before spreading the ball wider when the defence is tied in. Look for our carriers to win the collisions and get across the gain line. When in our own half we will assess the options with option of kicking behind the Treviso back three or launching an attack.

Look to control the breakdown with Warburton getting on top. 

Look to control the set piece with our pack looking to control at scrum and line out as well as disrupt opposition ball. 

Key is to get a 5 point win here. Intensity from the off to get the job done.




Pool 6 - Sale Sharks vs Munster
Location - AJ Bell Stadium
Sunny, 6 degrees, 9mph North Westerly Winds


Heineken Cup Round Five 12 Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Marcos Ayerza 09. Danny Care 
02. David Paice 10. Johnny Sexton 
03. Phil Swainston
04. Dave Attwood 11. Craig Gilroy 
05. Brodie Retalick 12. Gael Fickou 
06. Yannick Nyanga 13. George Pisi 
07. Matt Todd14. Kyle Eastmond 
08. Louis Picamoles15. Nick Abendanon 

16. Ross Harrison 17. Tommy Taylor 18. Luc Ducalcon 19. Tom Savage 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Beauden Barrett 23. Jean-Marcellin Buttin

We will play a fast paced, high intensity offloading game looking to create space for our halfbacks and to get our back three onto the ball as much possible. 

Target the scrum. Good technical front row supported by plenty of grunt will look to get on top and win penalties. 

Attack from the lineout. Five genuine jumping options allows us to mix it up and really use the lineout as an attacking platform. Look to get the ball to Sexton and Eastmond with space outside. 

Target the opposition lineout with Retalick jumping at the front and Attwood & Nyanga marshalling the middle. We will look to make the lineout as scrappy as possible for Munster and prevent them from setting the maul.

Look to mix up play. Sexton & Eastmond to interchange at first receiver and change the point of attack. Care provides a threat snipping around the base.

Get the back three involved. Eastmond, Gilroy and Bendy all to run lines looking for the inside ball or offload to get in behind the opposition defence. 

Hit the breakdown hard. Look to our dynamic front five to clear the ruck and allow the likes of Nyanga & Todd to really attack the breakdown.


More room to play. Keatley is suffering in recent times with his kicking percentage averaging around 50%! This gives us more leeway to attack the breakdown and get dirty!

Straight line blitz defence focusing on a quick line speed to isolate the ball carrier before the gain line. Care to sweep in behind to cover chips and grubbers.


Munster

01. James Cronin09. Cathal Sheridan
02. Damien Varley10. Ian Keatley
03. BJ Botha
04. Donnacha Ryan11. Johne Murphy
05. Paul O'Connell (c)12. James Downey
06. Peter O'Mahony13. Casey Lualala
07. Sean Dougall14. Keith Earls
08. James Coughlan15. Felix Jones

Replacements: 16 Duncan Casey, 17 David Kilcoyne, 18 Stephen Archer, 19 Donncha O'Callaghan, 20 Tommy O'Donell, 21 Duncan Williams, 22 JJ Hanrahan, 23 Denis Hurley.



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Post by Steven_Sharks Mon 06 Jan 2014, 9:12 pm

Harlequins
Manager – Steven_Sharks

01. Joe Marler09. Greig Laidlaw (k)
02. Rob Buchanan10. Freddie Burns
03. Kieran Brookes
04. Pieter Steph Du Toit11. Topsy Ojo
05. Steve Borthwick12. Jan Serfontein
06. Jamie Gibson13. Ben Tapuai
07. Sam Warburton (c)14. Frank Halai
08. Pierre Spies15. Andre Taylor

16. Gary Botha 17. Ben Franks 18. Kyle Sinckler 19. Hugh Pyle 20. Luke Braid 21. Karl Dickson 22. Dan Bowden 23. Anthony Faainga

Tactics

Retain possession in the Treviso half with carriers off 9 and 10 before spreading the ball wider when the defence is tied in. Look for our carriers to win the collisions and get across the gain line. When in our own half we will assess the options with option of kicking behind the Treviso back three or launching an attack.

Look to control the breakdown with Warburton getting on top.

Look to control the set piece with our pack looking to control at scrum and line out as well as disrupt opposition ball.

Key is to get a 5 point win here. Intensity from the off to get the job done.

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Post by Driver Mon 06 Jan 2014, 9:47 pm

Falcons name a strong side knowing that victory against Clermount at Kingston Park is a must if they are too reach the later stages of European contest.


Newcastle Falcons

Manager – Driver

01.Matt Mullen09.Ben Youngs
02.Dane Coles10.Dan Bigger (K)
03.Owen Franks
04.Ed Slater11.Charlie Sharples
05.Juandre Kruger12.Brad Barritt
06.Juan Smith13.Rene Ranger
07.Richie McCaw14.Charles Pitatau
08.Kieron Read (C)15.Alex Goode
16.Darren Dawiduik 17.Soana Tonga'uhia 18.Scotty Wilson 19.Kelly Brown 20.Dave Ewers 21.Dave Lewis 22.Aaron Cruden 23.James O'Connor

Falcons to play a high tempo game moving the ball into space and punching holes in the Clermount defence with Bigger attacking the spaces with his wide pass.

Tonga for Mullen , Brown for McCaw , Ewers for Read , Cruden for Bigger and JOC for Goode will all keep tempo high for 80 minutes.
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Post by Ozzy3213 Tue 07 Jan 2014, 10:01 am

Heineken Cup Round Five 6London Wasps
Manager  Ozzy3213

01. Paul James09. Aaron Smith
02. Rob Hawkins10. Camille Lopez
03. Martin Castrogiovanni
04. Sitaleki Timani11. Jack Nowell
05. George Skivington ©12. Pat McCabe
06. Tom Johnson13. Tim Nanai-Williams
07. Luke Wallace14. Marland Yarde
08. Fotu Auelua15. Anthony Watson
16. Deon Fourie 17. Fraser Balmain 18. Tom Mercey 19. Romain Millo-Chluski 20. Blair Cowan 21.Sebastien Tillous-Borde 22. Elton Jantjies 23. JJ Englebrecht

Basic Game Plan
In dry conditions we will be looking to play a possession game, using big carriers to go through the phases and suck in defenders before spinning it wide.  We will look to offload in or just before the tackle and keep the ball alive to play at a high tempo.  Our back row will look to support and hit rucks hard to free up quick ball.  

In defence, as always we will be running a blitz defence.  Our focus will be on the gainline collisions and driving back in the tackle.  Line speed and no dog-legs will be key components for us.  Smith will sweep in behind the defensive line to counter any chips/grubbers.


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Post by dammit_chris Tue 07 Jan 2014, 10:05 am

Saints team versus Glasgow (will put into correct format later in week).

1. Mako Vunipola
2. Dyland Hartley (c)
3. Carl Hayman
4. Dean Mumm
5. Joe Launchbury
6. Calum Clark
7. Sam Cane
8. Sergio Parisse
9. Joe Simpson
10. George Ford
11. Julian Savea
12. Matt Giteau
13. Manu Tuilagi
14. Jamie Elliott
15. Ben Foden

16. Aussie Guy 17. Thomas Domingo 18. Henry Thomas 19. Steven Luatua 20. CJ Stander 21. Mike Phillips 22. Ian Madigan 23. Ben Foden


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 07 Jan 2014, 10:34 am

Heineken Cup Round Five 12 Sale Sharks
Manager – SJE

01. Marcos Ayerza 09. Danny Care
02. David Paice 10. Johnny Sexton
03. Phil Swainston
04. Dave Attwood 11. Craig Gilroy
05. Brodie Retalick 12. Gael Fickou
06. Yannick Nyanga 13. George Pisi
07. Matt Todd14. Kyle Eastmond
08. Louis Picamoles15. Nick Abendanon

16. Ross Harrison 17. Tommy Taylor 18. Luc Ducalcon 19. Tom Savage 20. Matt Kvesic 21. Kieran Marmion 22. Beauden Barrett 23. Jean-Marcellin Buttin

We will play a fast paced, high intensity offloading game looking to create space for our halfbacks and to get our back three onto the ball as much possible.

- Target the scrum. Good technical front row supported by plenty of grunt will look to get on top and win penalties.

- Attack from the lineout. Five genuine jumping options allows us to mix it up and really use the lineout as an attacking platform. Look to get the ball to Sexton and Eastmond with space outside. 

- Target the opposition lineout with Retalick jumping at the front and Attwood & Nyanga marshalling the middle. We will look to make the lineout as scrappy as possible for Munster and prevent them from setting the maul.

- Look to mix up play. Sexton & Eastmond to interchange at first receiver and change the point of attack. Care provides a threat snipping around the base.

- Get the back three involved. Eastmond, Gilroy and Bendy all to run lines looking for the inside ball or offload to get in behind the opposition defence.

- Hit the breakdown hard. Look to our dynamic front five to clear the ruck and allow the likes of Nyanga & Todd to really attack the breakdown.


- More room to play. Keatley is suffering in recent times with his kicking percentage averaging around 50%! This gives us more leeway to attack the breakdown and get dirty!

- Straight line blitz defence focusing on a quick line speed to isolate the ball carrier before the gain line. Care to sweep in behind to cover chips and grubbers.


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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 07 Jan 2014, 12:37 pm

CONDITIONS:

Liberty Stadium: Light Cloud, 9 Degrees & 16mph Winds
Franklins Garden: Sunny Intervals, 7 Degrees & 11mph Winds
Adams Park: Light Cloud, 7 Degrees & 8mph Winds
Toulouse: Sunny Intervals, 12 Degrees & 9mph Winds
Kingston Park: Light Cloud, 6 Degrees & 13mph Winds
Treviso: Light Rain Shower, 11 Degrees & 3mph Winds
AJ Bell Stadium: Light Rain, 7 Degrees & 12mph Winds

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 07 Jan 2014, 2:45 pm

Leicester TigersHeineken Cup Round Five 4
Manager – LukeLovesLuka

01. Andrew Sheridan   09. Kahn Fotuali'i
02. Stephen Moore10. Jonny Wilkinson (k)
03. Dan Cole
04. Nathan Hines11. Ugo Monye
05. Kearnan Myall12. Billy Twelvetrees
06. Sean O'Brien13. Brian O'Driscoll
07. Jacques Burger14. Drew Mitchell
08. Edwin Maka15. Mike Brown

16. Charlie Clare 17. Gethin Jenkins 18. Craig Mitchell 19. James Horwill 20. James Scaysbrook 21. Micky Young 22. Pat Lambie 23. Tamati Ellison



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Post by Guest Thu 09 Jan 2014, 6:13 pm

[i]Manager – Mat

[table class="userTable" cellspacing="6"]
01. Nick wood
09. Will Genia
02. Joe grey
10. Danny Cipriani (k)
03. Jamie Johnstone

04. Richie Grey
11. Johnny May
05. George Robson
12. Matt Scott
06. Tom Croft
13. Tevita Kuridrani
07. Qera
14. Charlie Walker
08. Jamie Heaslip
15. Israel Folau
16 steenkamp
17 harden
18 strauss
19 Palmer
20 Dickinson
21 Murray
22 Carter
23 Juan de Jongh

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 10 Jan 2014, 9:37 am

Gloucester
Manager – anonmattyt

01.  Nick Wood 09.  Will Genia
02.  Joe Grey 10. Danny Cipriani
03. Jamie Johnstone  
04.  Richie Grey 11.  Johnny May
05. George Robson  12. Matt Scott
06. Tom Croft 13.  Tevita Kuridrani
07.  Qera 14.  Charlie Walker
08.  Jamie Heaslip 15. Israel Folau

16 steenkamp 17 harden 18 strauss 19 Palmer 20 Dickinson  21 Murray  22 Carter 23 Juan de Jongh



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Post by dammit_chris Fri 10 Jan 2014, 11:08 am

Had a nightmare with laptop last night so the post I thought I did was not posted - would someone please add the following tactics up for me and throw Jordan Williams on the bench (originally had Elliot Daly and then remembered he was injured).

Key selection points:
* Beat Glasgow upfront in the pack, far strong front five to set a good attacking platform. Pack is very fresh and has been rested over last few weeks to target HC.
* Team selected to play high intensity, fast-paced attacking game to make best of conditions, run Glasgow all over the field and look for tries from the off. Aim to wear down Glasgow defensively before we bring on the bench.
* Huge impact bench to bring on in second half and finish final 30 minutes very strongly
* Win the collisions and gainline battle.
* Unbeaten in Europe in 18 months, Glasgow been beaten in all games so far comfortably and bottom of the group. Will look to score tries.  

Tactics:Saints will play a high intensity/tempo'd game from the outset and take the game to Glasgow. We will look to place Bath under pressure with a really physical, aggressive approach and defence to force errors and mistakes to exploit. We will look to win the gainline battle and the collisions with our big ball carriers and generate quick ball for our backline. We want the game to be open and expansive and have picked a backline that can score tries from anywhere. Bench to really hit Glasgow hard in final 30 minutes to target a high scoring game.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 10 Jan 2014, 12:18 pm

Ospreys 13-20 Glaws
Not an awful lot between the packs at the set piece or breakdown but Glaws have more of a carrying game in the open which suits the conditions. Halfbacks one a piece but Glaws as a combo have a little more but in the backs there’s a gulf of class. Same can be said of the bench.
 
Saints 30-18 Glasgow
Glasgow having a poor year and just can’t match the Saints pack around the park. Expect Saints halfbacks to have a field day and really get the attacking game going.
 
Wasps 40-15 Zebre
Don’t think anything needs to be said!
 
Toulouse 13-16 Tigers
Monster pack battle here in possibly the game of the round. Backlines are fairly even. Feel Toulouse edge the bench a little but its halfback where this is won. Tigers pair capable of dominating the tempo in this one.
 
Newcastle 22-15 Clermont
See Falcons getting a slight edge at the breakdown but set piece battle is even. Backlines are fairly similar but halfbacks are a step up to Falcons and see Cruden on the bench bringing serious impact late on.
 
Treviso 10-32 Quins

Treviso taken a step backwards this year and a decent Quins side should see a bonus point in Italy.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 10 Jan 2014, 12:23 pm

Quick question. Isn't Edwin Maka a Toulouse player and therefore can't play for Tigers against them?
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 10 Jan 2014, 12:28 pm

Not in the Toulouse team so I see no issue with it

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 10 Jan 2014, 12:36 pm

Rule for the past 2 and half years has been you can't pick players if they are from the club you are facing in Europe, nothing about whether they are in the team.
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Post by Driver Fri 10 Jan 2014, 12:46 pm

I think Cruden seems to be rated more coming off the bench for me.
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Post by dammit_chris Fri 10 Jan 2014, 1:10 pm

Ospreys 22 - 27 Glaws
Gloucester have more quality and can get the away win.

Sale 28 - 12 Munster
Sale too strong at home for Munster, think Abendanon returning for Bath in real life makes a huge difference for SJE's team, some great spark and go forward from the back.

Wasps 50 - 18 Zebre
Cricket score.

Toulouse 15-20 Tigers
Have been quite disappointed with Toulouse this season and they aren't the team they once were - Tigers pack is certainly strong enough to get a win and the right fly half to steer them to a win.

Newcastle 33 - 29 Clermont
Falcons win the battle of the breakdown, home advantage and some very good attacking players for them. Driver really transformed the backline. Great game on the cards and Falcons will edge it.

Treviso 15-32 Quins
Few key players rested by Quins, but they have a lot of form with the players they have (with exception of Burns). See them getting the bp win quite comfortably.

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 10 Jan 2014, 1:24 pm

Really? I thought it was if they were selected. Checked their side and left Cencus out for that reason.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Fri 10 Jan 2014, 1:40 pm

Same as Luke I always thought it was if players were named in the opposition side?! I've no issue with it Maka isn't involved for Toulouse not going to step in with punishments especially in such a well balanced group Wink

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Post by Ozzy3213 Fri 10 Jan 2014, 2:21 pm

Fair enough, but the rule has always been as I described it, hence I didn't play Tolofua against them when I faced them, even though he wasn't in their side.
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Post by Driver Fri 10 Jan 2014, 2:36 pm

Think this has sorted itself out.
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Post by Guest Fri 10 Jan 2014, 2:59 pm

Ozzy3213 wrote:Fair enough, but the rule has always been as I described it, hence I didn't play Tolofua against them when I faced them, even though he wasn't in their side.

Pete is right re the rule. To be fair maka
Is not really going to make much difference but the rule was they can't play against their club

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Fri 10 Jan 2014, 3:00 pm

My bad. Apologies. Happy to take whatever punishment is.

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Post by Guest Fri 10 Jan 2014, 3:59 pm

To be fair luke it does not matter it's just an oversight. Should not be a fine or anything else. Maybe a rule to be clarified for future

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Post by prop_lyd Fri 10 Jan 2014, 5:01 pm

Ospreys 20-24 Glos
Close game, Glos back 5 in pack can get the quick ball needed and feel they are more dangerous outwide.

Saints 30-16 Glasgow
Saints way too strong here and will get the bonus point.

Wasps 45-12 Zebre
Simple win for Wasps.

Toulouse 15-16 Tigers
Think this game will be close, Tigers will get a slight edge on the pack battle and feel that Wilkinson will bring enough control to the game to nick it.

Falcons 24-20 Clermont
Great Falcons bench and like the look of their backline which will win the collisions and make inroads with their back 3's running. Upfront Clermont are strong in the front row but feel Falcons backrow will gain the advantage come the breakdown. Great game!

Treviso 9-36 Quins
Treviso not playing great, think they lost to Zebre over Christmas! Quins showing their strength in depth in some positions. Good win.

Sharks 25-19 Munster
Good tactics from Sale and a good tempo for their half back pairing. Even at the scrum but Munster could cause issues at the lineout. Think Sale will edge the breakdown and look much more dangerous in the outside backs to take a great win.
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Post by Steven_Sharks Fri 10 Jan 2014, 5:48 pm

Ospreys 20 - 35 Gloucester
Saints 29 - 21 Glasgow
Wasps 41 - 3 Zebre
Toulouse 20 - 20 Tigers
Newcastle 23 - 16 Clermont
Sale 25 - 23 Munster

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Post by Driver Fri 10 Jan 2014, 6:38 pm

Ospreys 12 Gloucester 23
Northampton 35 Glasgow 20
London Wasps 40 Zebre 0
Toulouse 19 Leicester 20
Trevision 9 Harlequins 28
Sale Sharks 24 Munster 20
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Post by Guest Fri 10 Jan 2014, 10:34 pm

Do we need
Explanation for full
Scores
In euros ?

Plan to
Only do
Ones where 2 ap teams play each other. Will amend if corrected






Saints 39-16 Glasgow
Saints way too strong here and will get the bonus point.

Wasps 60-22 Zebre
Easy

Toulouse 15-16 Tigers
Big collisions tough game.
Leicester
Street wise
And key positions have personnel to sneak it

Falcons 23-17 Clermont

Bench and backs see
Falcons
Win it

Treviso 15-30 Quins
Not best Quins side but more than enough

Sharks 25-22Munster

SJE only has 6 English so will have a point deduction coming. I
Assumed that Todd would be replaced by kvesic in this match if
Wrong let me
Know and will score. Think sale take key exchanges but that Munster backrow is in great form and make a nuisance and ruin game. Close due
To
Late rally by Munster and weak sale
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Post by Guest Fri 10 Jan 2014, 10:41 pm

Have counted a few times.
I am right SJE
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sat 11 Jan 2014, 12:17 am

Yeah your right Matt genuine mistake on my part thought it was 6 EQ for some reason  Doh 
Kvesic should be in the starting side and Todd on the bench I'll be taking a points fine for it

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 11 Jan 2014, 12:24 am

Falcons only have 6 EQ starters as well.
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Post by Guest Sat 11 Jan 2014, 1:15 am

SirJohnnyEnglish wrote:Yeah your right Matt genuine mistake on my part thought it was 6 EQ for some reason  Doh 
Kvesic should be in the starting side and Todd on the bench I'll be taking a points fine for it

Having
A dry January so sharper than usual.
Tbh it
Will
Not last much past this weekend. Spoiling for a drink.
7
In a side is hard work. Hence Cips signing and glad walker has emerged.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 11 Jan 2014, 9:54 am

Ospreys 15-23 Gloucester
Saints 32-12 Glasgow
Wasps 24-6 Zebre
Toulouse 20-20 Leicester
Newcastle 21-20 ASM
Treviso 7-26 Quins
Sale 24-23 Munster

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 11 Jan 2014, 1:39 pm

Ospreys 16 Gloucester 22
Northampton Saints 30 Glasgow 18
Toulouse 19 Leicester Tigers 19
Newcastle Falcons 22 ASM Clermont Auvergne 20
Benetton Treviso 17 Harlequins 22
Sale Sharks 20 Munster 19
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Post by dammit_chris Sat 11 Jan 2014, 3:19 pm

Fluxy - think it must have been you but thanks for adding the tactics and Jordan Williams to the bench. Much appreciated mate.

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Post by CJB Sat 11 Jan 2014, 10:18 pm

Ospreys 22-26 Gloucester
Not an incredible side this Ospreys team and Gloucester have enough strength to over come them.

Saints 38-11 Glasgow
Glasgow aren't a great side and the Saints side is sufficiently strong to come away with a bonus point win

Wasps 59-6 Zebre
At home this isn't even a contest

Toulouse 17-19 Tigers
Great contest. Not a huge amount in the teams. The major discrepancy for me comes at half back where Toulouse aren't in the same league imo

Newcastle 25-21 Clermont
Similar story here. 3 of the 4 half backs on the Neqcastle squad are international quality, whereas the Clermont ones aren't. With James and Parra it could be a different story

Treviso 7-36 Quins
Quins too strong even with most of their players being backup or reserve players. Treviso not strong enough to take advantage

Sale 27-22 Munster
Sale just have a stronger side. Munster are not the force they once were. Good form keeps it close

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Post by Fluxy Sun 12 Jan 2014, 2:44 pm

Ospreys 18 - 26 Gloucester

Northampton Saints 35 - 21 Glasgow Warriors

London Wasps 42 - 12 Zebre

Toulouse 24 - 25 Leicester Tigers

Newcastle Falcons 31 - 29 ASM Clermont Auvergne

Treviso 10 - 34 Harlequins

Sale Sharks 25 - 22 Munster

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Thu 16 Jan 2014, 5:02 pm

RESULTS: 

Ospreys 18 (T:2 C:1 P:2)
Gloucester Rugby 30 (T:4 C:2 P:2)

Northampton Saints 38 (T:4 C:3 P:4)
Glasgow Warriors 17 (T:2 C:2 P:1)

London Wasps 49 (T:7 C:7)
Zebre 10 (T:1 C:1 P:1)

Toulouse 18 (T:2 C:1 P:2)
Leicester Tigers 23 (T:3 C:1 P:2)

Newcastle Falcons 29 (T:3 C:1 P:4)
ASM Clermont Auvergne 21 (T:2 C:1 P:3)

Treviso 11 (T:1 P:2)
Harlequins 35 (T:5 C:5)

Sale Sharks 29 (T:3 C:1 P:4)
Munster 20 (T:1 P:5)

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