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It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Nathan Cleverly will now fight Tony Bellew on saturday night at the o2 arena. That is what a source has suggested anyway! dont shoot me down if im wrong lol!
Young_Towzer- Posts : 1618
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Strangely enough, as soon as I heard that Brahmer was out, I was thinking to myself that I'd love Bellew to be drafted in as a replacement; but I considered it so unlikely I didn't even bother posting it. Good news if what you're saying is true.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Yeah saw Bellew put his name in the hat. Would be decent last minute.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
http://www.boxingscene.com/bellew-i-make-weight-im-ready-beat-cleverly--39301
Bellew, certainly seems to want it.
Bellew, certainly seems to want it.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
So we have the potential for two fights featuring a loudmouth vs a quiet unassuming type.
Sounds perfect
Sounds perfect
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Strangely enough, as soon as I heard that Brahmer was out, I was thinking to myself that I'd love Bellew to be drafted in as a replacement; but I considered it so unlikely I didn't even bother posting it. Good news if what you're saying is true. .
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the only trouble is with him preparing for a fight with McKenzie in a couple of month will he be on the weight safely enough
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the only trouble is with him preparing for a fight with McKenzie in a couple of month will he be on the weight safely enough
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Thinking about it, I'm not sure Frank would take the risk with Bellew. He's crude but he can bang and if Clev decides to stand and trade, who knows. Would love it to happen but I'm not convinced it will.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
now i've read the link D4 i dont think the fight will be happening, if warren's said weight could be a problem i dont see him allowing 2 of his prospects to fight, an eastern bloc or Mohammedi will be drafted in, imo. Hope im wrong though because despite feeling Cleverly would beat Bellew within 6 it would be explosive!
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Will it be for the WBO interim Interim world Silver belt?
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Ok, Boxrec are saying that Cleverly vs Bellew is on and that it will be for the full title.
Clev to win caus he has a better chin than Bellew.
Clev to win caus he has a better chin than Bellew.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Apprently Bomber has tweeted saying the fight is close to being made.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
themadworldofjb wrote:Ok, Boxrec are saying that Cleverly vs Bellew is on and that it will be for the full title.
Clev to win caus he has a better chin than Bellew.
Should be a good fight, probably be better than the Braehmer fight would have been.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
McKenzie exposed Bellew and was unlucky with a premature stoppage hence why a rematch was made.
For me, Clev wins by mid round stoppage. Bellew has great heart (but a suspect chin) and I think he'll be able to keep himself in there before Clev gets him outta there.
For me, Clev wins by mid round stoppage. Bellew has great heart (but a suspect chin) and I think he'll be able to keep himself in there before Clev gets him outta there.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Bellew is a one dimensional slugger with no world level potential IMO. However he is the best we can hope for at such short notice - if warren drafts in some east euro journeyman I'll not be handing my 15 quid over.
Braehmer is a joke, pulled out twice on the trot, typical German champ not wanting to fight anywhere where the judges won't be in his promotors pocket. Glad they finally stripped this clown of his title.
Braehmer is a joke, pulled out twice on the trot, typical German champ not wanting to fight anywhere where the judges won't be in his promotors pocket. Glad they finally stripped this clown of his title.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Nothing offcial on who the Champion is but if Bellew and speculation is to be believed then Clev will be made champion with Bellew challenging him.
Bellews best chance is that he lands first and that he can get to Clev becuase of Clev's training for a southpaw
Bellews best chance is that he lands first and that he can get to Clev becuase of Clev's training for a southpaw
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Bellew is a domestic fighter and that is it. Cant really blame Fwank for this one though, best we can expect at such short notice.
Clev mid round TKO will relative ease.
Clev mid round TKO will relative ease.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
I can't see any better options tbh. Bellew should be in good condition. I think the fact that clev has trained for a southpaw makes it more competitive than usually.
Should be a good fight while it lasts
Should be a good fight while it lasts
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
I think Cleverly wins this but Its actually fight Id like to see. Bellew is exciting to watch, there is needle there already and the two styles could make it explosive.
If Warren want to keep ppv status the I think he will have to provide a name with a bit of recognition. An Eurobum wont do.
Two good all British grudge matches would be intersting. Not that fussed about Braehmer anyway so Bellew would be a good replacement.
I wonder wil they change Groves/De Gale to top billing though?
If Warren want to keep ppv status the I think he will have to provide a name with a bit of recognition. An Eurobum wont do.
Two good all British grudge matches would be intersting. Not that fussed about Braehmer anyway so Bellew would be a good replacement.
I wonder wil they change Groves/De Gale to top billing though?
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
They said on Sky that an opponant needed to be in the country at least three days in advance so really Bellew is the only logical opponant out there.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
In Clevs last fight an opponent was drafted in late and he didn't cope well with it although the guy was awkard and spoiling. Bellew is wide open and chinny so I would expect Clev to win by mid round stoppage.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
I think the fight has been made. Its just that they are waiting to confirm what the fight will be for i.e. full or interim WBO title
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
According to Livefight.com, it could well be on.
Heres the link:
http://www.livefight.com/news.php
Heres the link:
http://www.livefight.com/news.php
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
http://www.livefight.com/news.php[/quote[/url]]themadworldofjb wrote:According to Livefight.com, it could well be on.
Heres the link:
[url=http://www.livefight.com/news.php
I'll believe it moe when it comes from a reliable source.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/tony-bellew-box-nathan-cleverly-wbo-title
More reliable for you?
More reliable for you?
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
That'll do. Fairly happy with that.themadworldofjb wrote:http://news.boxrec.com/news/2011/tony-bellew-box-nathan-cleverly-wbo-title
More reliable for you?
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Tony Bellew has just tweeted saying it's getting closer but not a done deal yet. He has also said he is not a stone over he's 6 and a half pounds over.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
It's just been confirm o sky sports news. Good replacement and I think it still warrants a PPV place(only just) as it's another bitter rivalry to accompany the groves-degale rivalry. This fight was going to happen at some point and now seems like a decent time. It's a shame that this couldn't get hyped up as i think ther eis enough of a rivalry there to make it a attractive fight for fight fans.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Didn't think it was PPV in the first place despite being 'a' world champion Braehmer wasn't exactly one of the top guys at the weight, just the usual european level fight who got a manufactured title opportunity. Bellew, Cleverly, Degale and Groves are reasonably well known but none of them have achieved anything so can't see why it's PPV.
Comparisons to Haye or Khan aren't relevant as they are big draws so can realistically command PPV almost every time they fight, a better comparison would be to Froch who despite fighting levels above Cleverly, being more exciting and being a genuine world champion has never garnered enough attention to be worthy of SBO.
Comparisons to Haye or Khan aren't relevant as they are big draws so can realistically command PPV almost every time they fight, a better comparison would be to Froch who despite fighting levels above Cleverly, being more exciting and being a genuine world champion has never garnered enough attention to be worthy of SBO.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Cleverly is now fighting...Nathan Cleverly.
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=324239&cat=boxer
http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=324239&cat=boxer
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
I noticed Cleverley was fighting Cleverley on Boxrec this morning!
I think this might be a wrng move for Bellew this early in his career and I wasnt convinced of his win over Bob Ajisafe.
Does anyone know if the WBO will make Cleverley the new WBO champion, and if so does this mean Bellew will be fighting for a world title on Saturday night?
I think this might be a wrng move for Bellew this early in his career and I wasnt convinced of his win over Bob Ajisafe.
Does anyone know if the WBO will make Cleverley the new WBO champion, and if so does this mean Bellew will be fighting for a world title on Saturday night?
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
I suppose it's not a bad opponent at such short notice. Surprised Bellew took it, he has a whole two days prep.
http://www1.skysports.com/thisisit/story/21163/6939482
http://www1.skysports.com/thisisit/story/21163/6939482
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Depends if he makes weight I guess, but Cleverly is the WBO Title Holder.shenglong1983 wrote:I noticed Cleverley was fighting Cleverley on Boxrec this morning!
I think this might be a wrng move for Bellew this early in his career and I wasnt convinced of his win over Bob Ajisafe.
Does anyone know if the WBO will make Cleverley the new WBO champion, and if so does this mean Bellew will be fighting for a world title on Saturday night?
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
shenglong1983 wrote:I noticed Cleverley was fighting Cleverley on Boxrec this morning!
I think this might be a wrng move for Bellew this early in his career and I wasnt convinced of his win over Bob Ajisafe.
Does anyone know if the WBO will make Cleverley the new WBO champion, and if so does this mean Bellew will be fighting for a world title on Saturday night?
Yes it is for the WBO title.
Interesting that you mention Bob Ajisafe. Team Cleverly were obviously sceptical about south-paw Braehmer turning up from the start so draughted in Orthodox sparring partners, including Ajisafe, just in case.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Good press conference! Making degale v groves seem friendly
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compelling and rich wrote:Good press conference! Making degale v groves seem friendly
This is hilarious, Bellew has been escorted out for squaring up to Cleverly and calling him a F*****G Rat! lmao
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I know many dont like him, but its a shame a lot of top boxers arent as fearless as Bellew.
I fancy him being stopped having said that.
I fancy him being stopped having said that.
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
Personally it's Clev by UD which is 5/2 on Skybet, has a bit of a habit of not impressing huge amounts when he needs to. Class above Bellew IMO and i don't think Clev cracks all that much.
Saying that Clev will probably do what Ovill M couldn't and put him down early and keep him down.
Am leaning towards Degale UD (11/2 - AMAZING ODDS!) & Clev UD though... double bet = 22/1... worth a cheeky £10 on
Heck, Degale by UD @ 11/2 are amazing odds!!!!
Saying that Clev will probably do what Ovill M couldn't and put him down early and keep him down.
Am leaning towards Degale UD (11/2 - AMAZING ODDS!) & Clev UD though... double bet = 22/1... worth a cheeky £10 on
Heck, Degale by UD @ 11/2 are amazing odds!!!!
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Bookies are obviously seeing a knockout coxy
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
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Being the optimist i am i'd be surprised if the fight lives up to expectations. Can see Groves trying to rough up Degale and drag him into a war, which'll just create an ugly fight....
And saying that we'll probably get a fight for the ages, with both men hitting the deck 3 times each, before one of them gets off the floor twice in the 10th behind on the cards and find the hailmary to end it!
11/2 @ UD is too tempting to turn down to be honest
Being the optimist i am i'd be surprised if the fight lives up to expectations. Can see Groves trying to rough up Degale and drag him into a war, which'll just create an ugly fight....
And saying that we'll probably get a fight for the ages, with both men hitting the deck 3 times each, before one of them gets off the floor twice in the 10th behind on the cards and find the hailmary to end it!
11/2 @ UD is too tempting to turn down to be honest
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i fully expect bellew to hit the canvas once or twice and be stoppeb. But he deserves full credit for taking this, it will be entertaining and fiery while it lasts. i am actually looking forward to this as much as the other fight. this could of been built up well with domestic rivalry. only issue is obviously bellew no way on earth deserves a world title fight but lets be honest, now adays, who care
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
would you risk throwing in a bhop ud for a treble, coxy?
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Not a chance with the BHop fight.
My official prediction would be Pascal by a more clear cut PTS decision... Know i was saying different a few days back but i've made up my mind that i reckon Pascal is going to have trained harder (he did gas) and be more switched on for this one.
UD = 15/8
Tempted to have a treble of those 3... returns a whopping 66/1 which is worth a cheeky £5 on... isn't it?!
My official prediction would be Pascal by a more clear cut PTS decision... Know i was saying different a few days back but i've made up my mind that i reckon Pascal is going to have trained harder (he did gas) and be more switched on for this one.
UD = 15/8
Tempted to have a treble of those 3... returns a whopping 66/1 which is worth a cheeky £5 on... isn't it?!
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Ok i couldn't resist Clev/Degale/Pascal all by UD @ a whopping 64/1.... £5 has now left my Skybet account... £327 back which was just too much of a carrot dangler!
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
of course it is, in my head the winnings are already spent!!
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Coxy
Still undecided on hotw I see it so far, most of the time I've been thinking degale mid to late stoppage. But I agree that I doubt it will live up to the billing, pretty hard to really would have to be gatti v ward to match the hno hype. And the odds for points is very good as the knockout is no done deal
Anybody else think the "fight" between clev and tony could have been staged to strum up some intrest, or just me being cynical
Still undecided on hotw I see it so far, most of the time I've been thinking degale mid to late stoppage. But I agree that I doubt it will live up to the billing, pretty hard to really would have to be gatti v ward to match the hno hype. And the odds for points is very good as the knockout is no done deal
Anybody else think the "fight" between clev and tony could have been staged to strum up some intrest, or just me being cynical
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i hope not, c an r, as I wanna give Bellew the credit for havin the balls to take it, and givin us a good press conference, after the subdued david haye, and quite frankly the weird wladamir!
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Day V Lately wrote:i hope not, c an r, as I wanna give Bellew the credit for havin the balls to take it, and givin us a good press conference, after the subdued david haye, and quite frankly the weird wladamir!
I don't know if it's ballsey in his mind.....He sounds off like he genuinly believes he's as good as a prime Tyson, I personally see it going 3-6 depending on how long the ref wants Bellew to be beaten up for. Then of course we'll get the excuses.
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Confident or even deluded, still dont think many unbeaten prospects would take it, or even many fighters
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Re: It's Cleverly vs Bellew
ANy links to the vid of this press conference?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSyUrbzK7sk
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