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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 02 Feb 2014, 8:02 pm

If you have an idea for a change, please put it on here, with a heading saying what aspect of the game it relates to, and then in detail what the idea is.


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Post by Driver Sun 02 Feb 2014, 8:10 pm

Falcons have a billion pound budget! and 70 man squad limit Smile
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Post by Driver Sun 02 Feb 2014, 8:15 pm

On a serious note though i would like to see a larger squad allowed. Even to 45 to allow for international period cover. 

Let's the weaker teams rotate and have a wider choice of players.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Feb 2014, 8:26 pm

MATCH DAY SQUAD

Top 6 in table next season 5 EQ starters (8 EQ in squad)

Bottom 6 in table next season 4 EQ starters (7 EQ in squad)

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 02 Feb 2014, 8:48 pm

EQ Limit 

4 EQ starters (8 EQ in squad) for all

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Feb 2014, 8:56 pm

I'd go with that too Johnny.

Any ideas how to even the league up?

It's a bit of a tough one, hard to be fair all round.

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Post by CJB Sun 02 Feb 2014, 9:11 pm

I think 4 EQ in line up and 8 in squad is a good idea . 7 maybe too many

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Post by Driver Sun 02 Feb 2014, 9:20 pm

I'm up for that SJE.
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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 04 Feb 2014, 12:26 pm

Was hoping for some more chat on here!!

EQ Limits
Biggest problem I see in the league is differance in EQ. Some sides can call on 3/4 England starting XV players. Some sides have no EPS players and none or minimal Saxons which makes it very hard to move up the table. 

Don't want to create a top 6/bottom 6 EQ limit as there's not much difference between the sides from 3rd down and think it would give an unfair advantage to whomever finishes 7/8/9 etc. 

Moving down to 4eq starters this season has definitely closed the gap a bit and results have been tighter but most weeks there's still a significant gap between benches in top v bottom matches hench my suggestion to move down to 8 EQ in a squad.

What's other peoples views on EQ limits? 

National League
On other rules there was actually a limit brought in on national league signings to 5 a side but between Pete stepping down and me taking over the league its been missed completely. Is there any objections to this being enforced next year?

Europe
The european mess looms over the league. Obviously if it sorts itself out and the english are involved we will follow the format of the new/existing competition. If so are people happy with the EQ limits in europe? 

If the english aren't involved we will see how the calendar is filled out in real life but if its not would people like a cup competition created or would you prefer break weeks? 

Squad Limits
Driver mentions squad limits above. Personally I think the 40 limit has worked well and done exactly what was intended. Its stopped top sides effectively building a first XV, AI XV, 6 Nations/RC XV etc and hogging players. I like that sides now have to target certain sections of the season (Saints/Sale = RC! Glaws =6 Nations/Run In). What's your view on it though? Do you think its too tight for international windows?

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Post by LukeLovesLuka Tue 04 Feb 2014, 12:40 pm

I would say in terms of EQ what makes the bottom teams stronger makes the top teams stronger too. Europe is a worry - wouldn't be keen on break weeks. Squad limits work well IMO like you say - no stockpiling of players.

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Tue 04 Feb 2014, 2:21 pm

See where you're coming from Luke only thing I say to that is its easier to close the gap through foreigns then through EQ. Much wider player base to take from. Saracens have shown this year with smart signings you can compete with anyone. 

Think most are unwilling to take the hit on EQ when dealing (I know I am!!) which puts a limit on what some sides will be able to achieve

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Tue 04 Feb 2014, 2:36 pm

I am the Alex Fergerson of dealing tho! lol

(No not the David Moyes Matt before you say it!)

You could always give the 1st bid in foreigns on league position (ie last gets first dibs), then open it up for the 2nd.

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Post by Guest Tue 04 Feb 2014, 2:47 pm

Sgt_Pooly wrote:I am the Alex Fergerson of dealing tho! lol

(No not the David Moyes Matt before you say it!)

You could always give the 1st bid in foreigns on league position (ie last gets first dibs), then open it up for the 2nd.


I agree with a draft type system for foreign signings.


Think   The fact that people can't hoard  EQ through their academy is balancing the game
Out. I will
Have to promote lots of academy players this year so will
Have to release absolute quality.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Tue 04 Feb 2014, 6:44 pm

I'd prefer a cup competition rather than break weeks I think.

EQ I think will balance out over time with academy changes

How about an EQ limit on positions? Similar to irish province ideas? I'm not certain it would work or be any good but someone may be able to expand on the idea

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Post by dammit_chris Wed 05 Feb 2014, 6:57 pm

I tend to agree with Steven that the EQ will balance itself out with the academy changes, but I find the season tends to go through phases where some teams do well during RC, then poorly during AIs and 6Nations.

The league seems a lot closer this season - smaller squads make it harder to stock pile players. Strongly agree that the clubs at the botom should get first picks of new players during any transfer window and instead of a draft they get to pick who they want.

The big difference will be when people have to release players at the end of the season to accomodate people coming up through their academy. I think I have 5 guys to bring in and will larely be having to release international players.

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Post by Steven_Sharks Sun 09 Feb 2014, 8:56 pm

Possibly a change to the rules regarding injured players which aren't spotted before Predos are done.

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Mar 2014, 8:57 pm

Let's get rid of biggest discrepancy predo. Stops the stupid tactical vote Of the person who is not fair.

In the Olympics for ice dancing and snow board they disregard top and bottom score.
Would work on here and stop the stupidity

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Post by Fluxy Sun 02 Mar 2014, 8:58 pm

Blind predos?

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Post by Driver Sun 02 Mar 2014, 9:00 pm

Whilst i'm all for blind ones i don't think it allows a view of where you need to improve.
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Post by Fluxy Sun 02 Mar 2014, 9:04 pm

True but you could ask the questions regardless on the homepage I guess?

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Mar 2014, 9:06 pm

It's a tough one chaps. I don't like it when I don't give full predos as it informs you of where you may need to change

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Post by SirJohnnyEnglish Sun 02 Mar 2014, 9:07 pm

Know the footie leagues on here do predictions by PM and publish feedback after results. May be an idea?

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Mar 2014, 9:10 pm

Get rid of top and bottom predo and you will stop the nonsense we have seen recently

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Mar 2014, 11:09 pm

What nonsense?

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Mar 2014, 11:11 pm

censored it's as easy as 1 +1

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Mar 2014, 11:18 pm

You've lost me

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Mar 2014, 11:22 pm

I know our military are not known for their intelligence but even so ???

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Mar 2014, 11:24 pm

Nice, no need for the digs.

Can we not just play the game?

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Post by Guest Sun 02 Mar 2014, 11:27 pm

Found the ignore button so will now have a better experience.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 02 Mar 2014, 11:29 pm

Canny, lets all get along and play nice eh

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 08 Mar 2014, 2:05 pm

Championship/released bidding:

Some kind of incentive for being the 1st bidder?? I've had it done to me and I've done it also.

Somebody does the research and sticks a bid in but then gets outbid. No issue with this but you get nothing for a bit of digging.

My idea:

To give the initial bidder a bit of credit, any of his bids needs to beat by 100%.

i.e.

Matt bids 1m for John Smith

Chris has to bid 2m for John Smith

Matt then bids 4m for John Smith

Chris has to bid 8m if he wants Smith

Makes the "lazy bidder" have to bid more and gives the guy who does the home work a bit of an incentive.

Not having a pop, I've jumped on the back of many bids.

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sat 08 Mar 2014, 2:06 pm

The other alternative is to make the bids private by PM to SJE. I, like yourself Pooly have been on both ends of it.
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 08 Mar 2014, 2:21 pm

Good idea Pete.

I have no issue at all getting out bid, but it would nice to give the guy who does the leg work a bit of credit.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 08 Mar 2014, 3:57 pm

I've been got with that quite a bit over the seasons and it is frustrating - do think that something needs to happen around academy signings and that they can only happen at the same time the foreign window opens.

If you do PM bids, then it might give a bit too much 'work' for someone on here, but if you just said it cost £10m to get someone from another persons academy if they aren't already in, but that money goes to the other person then that seems quite a quick and easy way to resolve it.

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 08 Mar 2014, 4:10 pm

10m is a bit excessive for an academy player imo.

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Post by dammit_chris Sat 08 Mar 2014, 4:40 pm

I'm not sure that £10m is a lot as you get a lot for predos and end of the season, and if you had it at that mark it would make people think before raiding other people's academies.

If you look at how quickly some players go from u20 WC to full England squad - Launch, Wade, Mako, BV, Ford, Nowell - then £10m not bad!

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sat 08 Mar 2014, 4:45 pm

dammit_chris wrote:I'm not sure that £10m is a lot as you get a lot for predos and end of the season, and if you had it at that mark it would make people think before raiding other people's academies.

If you look at how quickly some players go from u20 WC to full England squad - Launch, Wade, Mako, BV, Ford, Nowell - then £10m not bad!

10m is a lot to pay for somebody with little to no AP experience.

There's no such thing as "raiding academies", the players are openly available to anybody who wants to bid on them.

You've got as much right to the Sarries academy as I have.

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Post by CJB Sun 30 Mar 2014, 8:40 pm

I'm not a fan of being unable to do a proper score if you don't provide reasoning

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Post by Guest Sun 30 Mar 2014, 9:12 pm

Agree CJB it has made it so one persons score can have a huge impact if others just post scores

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Post by Driver Sun 30 Mar 2014, 9:22 pm

I agree,
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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 30 Mar 2014, 9:32 pm

You could always give some detail?

I like it. Generally if I've only got time to do scores I've not give the sides my full attention so not really fair to give big wins.

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Post by Guest Sun 30 Mar 2014, 9:37 pm

My favourite is to rule out the result with the biggest discrepancy. Stops the cheating that is happening

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 30 Mar 2014, 9:39 pm

Yawn.....

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Post by Ozzy3213 Sun 30 Mar 2014, 9:46 pm

Mat going on about cheating may be boring to you Pooly, but it's fairly obvious that it's going on and quite frankly has spoiled the game.
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Post by Guest Sun 30 Mar 2014, 9:53 pm

It is the truth though. How can my team which is 3rd not get 1league win from you this year?

Either you see things differently or it's cheating.

Your views the other day on 8 being easier to play technically than flanker showed you lack rugby knowledge but even so.

It's a constant every week and by a margin. Also the criteria you judge my players against is different ie etzbeth best 4 in works out less than 4 months not rated.

Parling and Bradley Davies out longer and far from wc rated despite time out.

Black and white examples

Same as picking on Cips yet ignoring burns form.

No problems losing to anyone and I thought against Fluxy who has done miracles It would be close.

Thought I would score it by 1-3 points to me and maybe a draw if he played flood.

If it was a one off then no problem but outside of euro and Anglo welsh you try and score me out of games.

Don't need to prove it as facts speak themselves

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Sun 30 Mar 2014, 10:08 pm

Is there any point me responding with my reasoning?

Pretty sure I gave wins in LV semi & final off top of head.

I always give reasoning and happy to divulge further it asked.

It's an opinions GAME and we all have them.

This constant throwing toys is really boring, as are the personal attacks which go against the spirit of the game and forum.

Can we just play the game instead of this weekly bickering?

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Post by Sgt_Pooly Mon 31 Mar 2014, 1:31 am

I'm going to respond to some of these as you obviously need more justification.

Either you see things differently or it's cheating.

We all have different opinions, I get loses from same people every week, It's their opinion.

Your views the other day on 8 being easier to play technically than flanker showed you lack rugby knowledge but even so.

I said the 8 gets involved less in the break down (generally) you often get 8's that just get through loads of carrying and are mainly ball carrying options (Picamoles a prime example). I suggested if Burgess played this way 8 would be a better transition than a flanker like say Wood who gets involved in everything at 6. He would suit the England game plan imo. It's extremely arrogant to constantly belittle with personal attacks. My thoughts on your rugby knowledge don't need to be constantly aired.

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t's a constant every week and by a margin. Also the criteria you judge my players against is different ie etzbeth best 4 in works out less than 4 months not rated.

I said losing rating, of course I rate him. To be fair he had an average AI and got injured. I don't rate him as best in world. You rate many of your players in this bracket, I often don't agree.

Parling and Bradley Davies out longer and far from wc rated despite time out.

I did mark them both down but didn't say this. To be fair the combo you put out (Stookes/Robson) was possibly the worst I've seen put out in the AP. I barely rate Stookes an AP player currently and Robson has not been at his previous levels for a while imo. It was a complete domination from Exeter as a combo even with Davies & Parling losing rating.

Same as picking on Cips yet ignoring burns form.

I think I explained this in the predo but anyway....

I don't like Cips at all but he's playing well behind a good Sale pack. I seen the Exeter pack as getting on top, especially lock combo(clearing out, quick ball etc) and this would put Cips on the back foot where he's extremely poor imo.

Burns has been awful but similar to Cips in your game he's playing on back foot. I think he's in poor form but would be playing off better ball imo. It was a bit horses for courses tbh.

cheating

I know you and a few others seem to think I've an agenda against them but I don't. I often struggle with your tactics of (my players are world class and better) and don't often see a game plan.

End of the day this is a game, people need to grow up. This constant whining is pretty pathetic. I just want to do some deals and build a team. Being accused of cheating nearly every week is something of expect of kids not grown men.

If you just look to back to what your saying:

"You keep giving me loses"
"You don't rate my players as highly as me"
"Why don't you like my players as much as some other players"

I think you'd agree it make cringe worthy reading.

Lets draw a line and play the game?

Truce?

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