Will the US title ever be relevant again?
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Will the US title ever be relevant again?
Today WWE posted that Dean Ambrose has held the belt for 260 days and on their site they say he has "answered every challenge to his championship, whether by hook or by crook" but I think this is obviously a lie, the last time he defended the belt on tv was October 28th against Big E Langston which he lost by DQ, the night before he lost to Big E by Countout...I see a pattern here.
Actually, I did some research.
Dean Ambrose has held the belt for 260 days, he is now the 7th longest reigning champion in US Title history and later this week will over take Ric Flair...in that time he has defended the belt 10 times...the scary part is he's lost 5 of those defences by either countout, no contest or DQ giving him a success rate of 50%! What makes things worse is only four of these defences have been at PPV's...does anyone else think this is a bit pointless?
What is the point of having him carry the belt if it's not defended? When Ambrose won the belt I honestly thought he would be able to give the belt relevance seeing as he is part of the coolest thing to happen to the WWE since Punk and Bryan, I thought that it would stop feeling like an after thought but if anything it's worse now than ever.
Actually, I did some research.
Dean Ambrose has held the belt for 260 days, he is now the 7th longest reigning champion in US Title history and later this week will over take Ric Flair...in that time he has defended the belt 10 times...the scary part is he's lost 5 of those defences by either countout, no contest or DQ giving him a success rate of 50%! What makes things worse is only four of these defences have been at PPV's...does anyone else think this is a bit pointless?
What is the point of having him carry the belt if it's not defended? When Ambrose won the belt I honestly thought he would be able to give the belt relevance seeing as he is part of the coolest thing to happen to the WWE since Punk and Bryan, I thought that it would stop feeling like an after thought but if anything it's worse now than ever.
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Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
Its for this reason that I don't want The Shield to feud over the title. Not only has Reigns elevated himself above its actual level, but he'd have to build it up a hell of a lot just to get it there.
But after initial interest in Big E and the IC belt, which they made a big deal of for two weeks, he has since been used as a third man in tag matches.
I'd much prefer they had someone come under Zeb Colter's wing and take the US Title. It would suit the gimmick. And it would do better than Cesaro's run with it, which whilst poor was at least recognised as a real run.
But after initial interest in Big E and the IC belt, which they made a big deal of for two weeks, he has since been used as a third man in tag matches.
I'd much prefer they had someone come under Zeb Colter's wing and take the US Title. It would suit the gimmick. And it would do better than Cesaro's run with it, which whilst poor was at least recognised as a real run.
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Yeah, I get what you mean about reigns needing to stay away from it, I hope when they do all feud it's just for pride...Reigns isn't quite world title level yet but if he gets the US belt it could stall that or even stop him from reaching that level.
I think having a new guy win it under Coulter would be good, maybe an actual American who can take Cesaro's place and allow him and the big swing to turn face.
I think having a new guy win it under Coulter would be good, maybe an actual American who can take Cesaro's place and allow him and the big swing to turn face.
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Of course not mate, maybe get someone to add a bit more to it as it's a bit short but be my guest, I was pretty shocked at some of the figures.
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Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
i remember when superstars would defend at a ppv and then have to defend it again the next night on raw
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Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
I don't think it's scary that a heel champions has won half his title defences by 'any means necessary' I think it's the way a heel should be booked, especially someone like Ambrose. He isn't a dominant force he should be IMO slithering his way through fights and finding a way to win, using his psychology to win matches.
But I do agree that the title should have been defended more times than 10 in 260 odd days. In answer to your question I don't know, I thought the unification of the world titles might add a little more prestige to the US and IC titles but that doesn't seem to have done the trick just yet, I would unify the two mid card titles in a bid to make them mean something again.
But I do agree that the title should have been defended more times than 10 in 260 odd days. In answer to your question I don't know, I thought the unification of the world titles might add a little more prestige to the US and IC titles but that doesn't seem to have done the trick just yet, I would unify the two mid card titles in a bid to make them mean something again.
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Does Ambrose carry the title around with him? I genuinely forgot he was champion. Who is the IC champ for that matter?
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CenaNuff wrote:Does Ambrose carry the title around with him? I genuinely forgot he was champion. Who is the IC champ for that matter?
Big TitE. Langston
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I was thinking it would make sense if they unified the belts to keep the US title and not the IC. Sure, the IC title has more WWE lineage than the US title, but surely Intercontinental is exactly the same as World? Or am I just being pedantic?
Plus, im not a huge fan of the IC design. I prefered it the old way.
Plus, im not a huge fan of the IC design. I prefered it the old way.
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theundisputedY2D2 wrote:CenaNuff wrote:Does Ambrose carry the title around with him? I genuinely forgot he was champion. Who is the IC champ for that matter?
Big TitE. Langston
LOL!
He carries it at all times....actually he has taken to wearing it hanging from his actual belt, its a lovely accessory for him.
Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
Sara wrote:He carries it at all times....actually he has taken to wearing it hanging from his actual belt, its a lovely accessory for him.
At least you've now got a ready-made excuse for staring at his crotch Sara!
"I WAS LOOKING AT THE US TITLE DAMMIT!"
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I once had a dream about the US title. I was backstage at WWE (God knows why) and I found it on the floor. I was holding it, putting it on my shoulder, putting it on my waist (as you would if you got your hands on a real life WWE belt) and I remember thinking, "I hope Dean Ambrose doesnt catch me doing this."
How random.
How random.
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Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
I'd say if you stood there with it long enough they'd probably just assume you were the US Champ anyway
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Cesaro was in my dream last night, he was mocking me for getting chips on my way home from a night out.
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Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
Looseheaded wrote:Cesaro was in my dream last night, he was mocking me for getting chips on my way home from a night out.
Did he mock you in 5 different languages?
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Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
theundisputedY2D2 wrote:Sara wrote:He carries it at all times....actually he has taken to wearing it hanging from his actual belt, its a lovely accessory for him.
At least you've now got a ready-made excuse for staring at his crotch Sara!
"I WAS LOOKING AT THE US TITLE DAMMIT!"
LOL! That is very true, that never crossed my mind! He is a hottie
Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
I think the real question is: When Dean Ambrose loses the title, can it ever be relevant to Sara and Hero again?
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The US Title went down hill when the WWF (then) took over WCW. It was the equivalent of the IC belt and the holder of the US Title was guaranteed a Heavyweight title shot in wcw. Now it's not even defended?
Then WWF came in and changed the belt to the disgusting colourful crap it is now.
Then WWF came in and changed the belt to the disgusting colourful crap it is now.
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Good article, great research viper!
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US title match on RAW!! They must have heard us - pretty sure Roman will be the one who finally defeats him
Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
xviperx wrote:Today WWE posted that Dean Ambrose has held the belt for 260 days and on their site they say he has "answered every challenge to his championship, whether by hook or by crook" but I think this is obviously a lie, the last time he defended the belt on tv was October 28th against Big E Langston which he lost by DQ, the night before he lost to Big E by Countout...I see a pattern here.
Actually, I did some research.
Dean Ambrose has held the belt for 260 days, he is now the 7th longest reigning champion in US Title history and later this week will over take Ric Flair...in that time he has defended the belt 10 times...the scary part is he's lost 5 of those defences by either countout, no contest or DQ giving him a success rate of 50%! What makes things worse is only four of these defences have been at PPV's...does anyone else think this is a bit pointless?
What is the point of having him carry the belt if it's not defended? When Ambrose won the belt I honestly thought he would be able to give the belt relevance seeing as he is part of the coolest thing to happen to the WWE since Punk and Bryan, I thought that it would stop feeling like an after thought but if anything it's worse now than ever.
30 day rule my friend
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Re: Will the US title ever be relevant again?
At least on RAW Ambrose cleared up why he hasn't defended his title - there is too much paperwork, lol
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