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by Liam Tue 18 Feb 2014, 1:01 pm

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Some cracking games this week, Barca/City and Bayern/Arsenal. Can't see past Bayern and Barca wins. Pellegrini has said he'll attack Barca and I say do so at your peril. This may not be the Barca side from 2010-2012 but its still a very very good side with players in form currently, namely Fabregas, Sanchez and with a returning Messi back in the goals. There's a chance that if they go in with two strikers that they could get torn to pieces. I think against Barca you have to play a 5 man midfield. They keep the ball too well and will just pass their way through you.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:17 pm

YAWNtd

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:22 pm

Oh dear

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:22 pm

Ah now that's just unlucky.

by Fernando Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:26 pm

Van Persie just got clattered by the keeper. Seems very much out of it.

Was a good flick from the Olympiakos forward for the goal.

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:29 pm

This is one of the best atmospheres I've heard for a while.

by mystiroakey Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:32 pm

The Special Juan wrote:Ah now that's just unlucky.

if i had a pound coin every time I.........

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:42 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:Ah now that's just unlucky.

if i had a pound coin every time I.........

by Guest Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:50 pm

Tom Cleverley. You make me smile every time I witness your embarrassing performances.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:56 pm

Lololololol

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:58 pm

John wrote:Tom Cleverley. You make me smile every time I witness your embarrassing performances.

The same Tom Cleverley who'll be playing for England in Brazil.

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:58 pm

Olly wrote:Lololololol

How's Premier League survival going?

Cat

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 8:59 pm

United is my team but I have to admit they are absolute SHYTE

by mystiroakey Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:01 pm

one away goal though and they will be favs

but boy do they need it.

Ihavent turned over a game for yonks. But on to some Attenbourgh. United are making me hate football.

by GSC Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:02 pm

In a season of lows, this would be the biggest. Sunderland was a bit of a smash and grab, United have been outclassed completely today

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:02 pm

The Special Juan wrote:
Olly wrote:Lololololol

How's Premier League survival going?

Bit better now actually Laugh

by SecretFly Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:03 pm

Betting scam or someone really wants rid of their manager.... to be perfectly blunt

Seriously, I don't watch football that much but that team (Manchester) isn't even trying. There is no way any manager could interpret that as his team trying to win.

by GSC Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:03 pm

Is Joel Campbell the first Arsenal player to score vs United this season

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:03 pm

We play awful football.

LOOK how shyte we are.

below avarage team.

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:09 pm

I think this performance has been so bad that the only way to look at it is that - a really awful display. Utd have played pretty well in the CL this season so I don't think it's Moyes fault in terms of inexperience or tactics. The team's played crap, except Evra who's looked decent.

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:13 pm

Thank God I have the last 25 years of success to feast on like fat in my belly.

F this United team..............and manager

Long live SAF

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:26 pm

I'd definitely give Smalling a drugs test after this match. I've never seen a player fall over so much for no reason.

by mystiroakey Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:27 pm

This loss wont go down well.

Its not even the away loss, its the way they are playing. Its championship football. The first touches from the players bar rooney are just disgusting- they cant string 3 passes together

by **Dolphin Ziggler** Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:28 pm

So horrendous.

by sportform Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:28 pm

Some of these Man United players look as if they don't care knowing full well they won't be there next season. RVP shot was so nonchalant he may as well have been lying down.

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:30 pm

Could you imagine what Barca would do to us

pathetic

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:34 pm

I'm not angry, just disappointed Cry

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:36 pm

They should stay in Greece

by Fernando Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:36 pm

FT 2-0 Olympiakos

Shows how far United have fallen, Arsenal & Citeh lost by that much to Barca & Bayern with 10 men Whistle

by mystiroakey Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:36 pm

The Special Juan wrote:I'm not angry, just disappointed

Well then you are almost at the end of the line mate..

You expect this shyte, welcome to moyesball and celebrating getting into the Europa league

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:38 pm

Lets all talk about the last 25 years of Man Utd dominance.

by mystiroakey Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:39 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:Lets all talk about the last 25 years of Man Utd dominance.

might as well talk about englands world cup win in 66 mate Wink

by SecretFly Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:39 pm

That's a big wage for jogging around a big green field with disinterested gazes and thoughts of what nightclub they'll go to at the weekend.

Nice work if you can get it

by Liam Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:41 pm

One of the worst utd performances I have ever seen. Just dire. We're always going to miss Mata and Januzaj (why wasn't he playing) but the whole approach to the game was terrible.

No pressure on the man in possession, no zip to the passing, lack of movement and fight. Just awful. Allot of those players on the pitch tonight will hopefully not be at the club next season.

I've defended Moyes all season and at the end of the day, the squad he's inherited is over the hill with other players simply not up to the standard. But his tactics and approach to the game tonight was all wrong. I do hope we see improvement from him next season otherwise I would not stick with him much longer.

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:41 pm

SecretFly wrote:That's a big wage for jogging around a big green field with disinterested gazes and thoughts of what nightclub they'll go to at the weekend.

Nice work if you can get it

And certain players on 300g a week are thinking of what nightclub to buy.

Terrible United team and I support them.

rubbish.

by Hammersmith harrier Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:43 pm

OneTwo we all know you're not a true supporter, you're far too reactionary and childish.

by GSC Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:43 pm

City and Arsenal were unlucky against great teams.

United were completely outplayed by a mediocre side.

Tough to blame Moyes too much IMO, it's been obvious that Uniteds CM has been poor for years, and long term replacements for Vidic, Rio and Evra were neglected.

by Fernando Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:45 pm

Why didn't he bring Hernandez on and where was Januzaj?

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:50 pm

Fernando wrote:Why didn't he bring Hernandez on and where was Januzaj?

Hernandez wouldn't have made much impact IMO. The service was dire all night and that's the one thing Hernandez needs.

by Liam Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:50 pm

Agree GSC but Moyes can be blamed for the tactics we adopted. There was no pressing or zip to our passing, at halt time fergie was known for ripping into the players and getting a reaction out of them. The reaction we needed came in the 78th minute onwards. Too late i'm afraid.

Overall the team is pretty average.

De Gea - Class act, one of our few very good players
Smalling - Hit and miss, still young but needs to step up
Rio - Over the hill
Vidic - Past it
Evra - Past it
Cleverly - Not good enough
Carrick - Squad player next year
Valencia - Not good enough
Young - Not good enough
Rooney - Our other brilliant player
RVP - Usually excellent, off night tonight

Realistically i'd keep 5 players from this 11 next season. Big spending needed in the summer which should have come around 2010 and possibly before!

by The Special Juan Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:51 pm

mystiroakey wrote:
The Special Juan wrote:I'm not angry, just disappointed

Well then you are almost at the end of the line mate..

You expect this shyte, welcome to moyesball and celebrating getting into the Europa league

I didn't expect a performance that bad!!

by GSC Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:53 pm

There is a suspicion that Moyes is perhaps happier as a big fish in a small pond, but ultimately he can't play for the players.

Cleverley woefully out of his depth. Strange Moyes seems to have frozen out Fellaini after he had a slow start at Everton

by mystiroakey Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:54 pm

Yeah i know . But be angry then.. I still cant work out why people are still trying to take the blame off moyes.

those players are so much better than that performance.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:54 pm

GSC wrote:City and Arsenal were unlucky against great teams.

United were completely outplayed by a mediocre side.

Tough to blame Moyes too much IMO, it's been obvious that Uniteds CM has been poor for years, and long term replacements for Vidic, Rio and Evra were neglected.

Seems to have been a very much "win now" mentality at Utd recently and the aftermath is happening now. Kinda what I expect to happen with Denver when Manning goes or New England when Brady goes

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:54 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:OneTwo we all know you're not a true supporter, you're far too reactionary and childish.

You don't know shyte

Supported Ubited for over 30 years now I can react how I please.

by GSC Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:56 pm

They really aren't Myst. People bring up last season, but United were never under any pressure, and they had a fit and in form RVP. City and Chelsea self imploded

by Duty281 Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:58 pm

Worst I think I've seen United play all season.

Low workrate, no working off the ball..it was just static. The game passed them by. The Greek side weren't all that, but United made them look all that.

Until the last ten minutes, there was nothing offered by United. Welbeck should have come on earlier; his workrate was much in need by the English champions. Where was the movement? Where was the running?

Devoid of confidence, bereft of energy, lacking in ideas, and totally weak.

Nice goal by Campbell though - he'll be lining up against England this summer, so I'm glad he's got that out of his system!

by Liam Tue 25 Feb 2014, 9:59 pm

GSC wrote:There is a suspicion that Moyes is perhaps happier as a big fish in a small pond, but ultimately he can't play for the players.

Cleverley woefully out of his depth. Strange Moyes seems to have frozen out Fellaini after he had a slow start at Everton

He hasn't frozen him out, hes been out for months and had his first game back vs Crystal Palace at the weekend and was one of our best players. Would have been too risky to bring him back for a CL game away from home, although i'm sure he would have done better than Cleverly!!

by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 25 Feb 2014, 10:00 pm

This team don't have the heart Duty.

I suspect like others that they are resigned to the fact they will play somewhere else next season.

Do they look like a team fighting for their jobs?

by Liam Tue 25 Feb 2014, 10:02 pm

Duty281 wrote:Worst I think I've seen United play all season.

Low workrate, no working off the ball..it was just static. The game passed them by. The Greek side weren't all that, but United made them look all that.

Until the last ten minutes, there was nothing offered by United. Welbeck should have come on earlier; his workrate was much in need by the English champions. Where was the movement? Where was the running?

Devoid of confidence, bereft of energy, lacking in ideas, and totally weak.

Nice goal by Campbell though - he'll be lining up against England this summer, so I'm glad he's got that out of his system!

This is where Moyes needs to come in for some flack, he sets the side out and tells them how to approach it. He clearly did not instruct his players to chase down Olympiakos when in possession. Maybe he slightly underestimated them due to the good win over Palace. Also, if hes rested Januzaj despite utd not playing for another 11 days then that is a shocker of a decision!!!

by Hammersmith harrier Tue 25 Feb 2014, 10:03 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:OneTwo we all know you're not a true supporter, you're far too reactionary and childish.

You don't know shyte

Supported Ubited for over 30 years now I can react how I please.

There is no chance in hell you're anything older than 18, a near on 40 year old with your attitude would be embarrassing.

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