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HM Murdock
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Indian Wells draw
http://www.bnpparibasopen.com/Share/Event-Draws.aspx?Year=2014&Draw=ms
On Djokos half: Robredo/Cilic, -Tsong/Delpo, Gasquet/Berdych
Other half: Nada, Stan, Murray, Fed.
Potential 1/8 matches:
Nadal – Fognini
Raonić – Murray
Haas – Federer
Wawrinka – Youzhni
Gasquet – Isner
Dimitrov – Berdych
Del Potro – Tsonga
Đoković – Robredo
On Djokos half: Robredo/Cilic, -Tsong/Delpo, Gasquet/Berdych
Other half: Nada, Stan, Murray, Fed.
Potential 1/8 matches:
Nadal – Fognini
Raonić – Murray
Haas – Federer
Wawrinka – Youzhni
Gasquet – Isner
Dimitrov – Berdych
Del Potro – Tsonga
Đoković – Robredo
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Re: Indian Wells draw
Rafa's side of the draw looks much tougher. Berdych is playing some good tennis though, he can be a threat to Novak.
Also, what is that "Đ" you've used?
What alphabet is it? Is it the "Dj" sound of Djokovic?
Also, what is that "Đ" you've used?
What alphabet is it? Is it the "Dj" sound of Djokovic?
HM Murdock- Posts : 4749
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Re: Indian Wells draw
To put an end on this Eastern Europe surname pronunciations, real ones and TV ones
DJ is not a proper alphabet combo, but its an anglicized version of Đ and easier to write on Internet.
Đ/đ is a soft J as in James. There is also a Dž/dž which is a heavier Đ, can't compare it to a english word, since it has only a J.
So Djokos surname starts with Đ.
Also there are 2 C's equal to CH as in China, e.g in Raonić/Tomić - Ć/ć so a soft CH, and the heavier CH as in Č/č which Marin Čilić has both a strong CH (Č) and a soft CH (ć).
These are latin versions of alphabet, and there are the same Cyrillic versions.
So Tomic is not TomiK, Raonic is not RaoniK, Cilic is not CiliK, but Tomich, Raonich, Chilich english style
Alphabet is Yugoslavian/Serbian/Croat.
Otherwise most surnames ending with "ić" are Montenegrin, so Raonić is Montenegrin, while "vić" are mostly Serbs, but Djoko is a mix and not a 'Serb" at all, and is half Montenegro/father, half Croat/mother, thought raised in Serbia.
The "ić" from Croatia, have nothing to do with same named people from Serbia, thought surnames can be mixed through mixed marriages in former Yugoslavia, i.e IvaniŠević - mom/croat, dad/montenegro/srb, the Š being SH, so not the usual IvaniZevich.
DJ is not a proper alphabet combo, but its an anglicized version of Đ and easier to write on Internet.
Đ/đ is a soft J as in James. There is also a Dž/dž which is a heavier Đ, can't compare it to a english word, since it has only a J.
So Djokos surname starts with Đ.
Also there are 2 C's equal to CH as in China, e.g in Raonić/Tomić - Ć/ć so a soft CH, and the heavier CH as in Č/č which Marin Čilić has both a strong CH (Č) and a soft CH (ć).
These are latin versions of alphabet, and there are the same Cyrillic versions.
So Tomic is not TomiK, Raonic is not RaoniK, Cilic is not CiliK, but Tomich, Raonich, Chilich english style
Alphabet is Yugoslavian/Serbian/Croat.
Otherwise most surnames ending with "ić" are Montenegrin, so Raonić is Montenegrin, while "vić" are mostly Serbs, but Djoko is a mix and not a 'Serb" at all, and is half Montenegro/father, half Croat/mother, thought raised in Serbia.
The "ić" from Croatia, have nothing to do with same named people from Serbia, thought surnames can be mixed through mixed marriages in former Yugoslavia, i.e IvaniŠević - mom/croat, dad/montenegro/srb, the Š being SH, so not the usual IvaniZevich.
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Re: Indian Wells draw
The top half looks loaded but full of players who we are not quite sure of their fitness/form. Berdych and Cilic the main threats in the bottom half.
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Re: Indian Wells draw
Jahu, brilliant answer, thanks.
I've learnt something today!
You must wince at some of the pronunciation you hear around those names.
I've learnt something today!
You must wince at some of the pronunciation you hear around those names.
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Re: Indian Wells draw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nDdtvbu8hw
hawkeye- Posts : 5427
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Re: Indian Wells draw
Jahu - Fantastic answer. Very rare one learns something they genuinely never knew about that.
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Re: Indian Wells draw
@Jahu... Fantastic and informative treatise on names/pronunciations.
Murray @Acapulco comes to mind. Sad to see Ferrer pull out.
Old Man will get his customary beating from Nadal, if he makes it.
How will JJ progress?
Born Slippy wrote:The top half looks loaded but full of players who we are not quite sure of their fitness/form.
Murray @Acapulco comes to mind. Sad to see Ferrer pull out.
Old Man will get his customary beating from Nadal, if he makes it.
How will JJ progress?
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Re: Indian Wells draw
HM, no probs, and I'm glad this not so happy region has produced a good number of athletes, after e bad few dacades
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