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Post by George Carlin Mon 10 Mar 2014, 6:51 am

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Millennium Stadium, Cardiff
15 March 2014, KO:14:45

Referee: Jérôme Garces (FFR)
First Assistant: Chris Pollock (NZR)
Second Assistant: Greg Garner (RFU)
TMO: Graham Hughes (RFU)

A. Squads

1. Wales

Forwards: Paul James (Bath), Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues), Ryan Bevington (Ospreys), Richard Hibbard (Ospreys), Ken Owens (Scarlets), Emyr Phillips (Scarlets), Adam Jones (Ospreys), Samson Lee (Scarlets), Rhodri Jones (Scarlets), Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys), Luke Charteris (Perpignan), Ian Evans (Ospreys), Andrew Coombs (Dragons), Ryan Jones (Ospreys), Justin Tipuric (Ospreys), Sam Warburton Capt (Cardiff Blues), Toby Faletau (Dragons), Dan Lydiate (Racing Metro), Aaron Shingler (Scarlets)

Backs: Rhodri Williams (Scarlets), Mike Phillips (Racing Metro), Rhys Webb (Ospreys), Dan Biggar (Ospreys), Rhys Priestland (Scarlets), James Hook (Perpignan), Jonathan Davies (Scarlets), Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro), Scott Williams (Scarlets), Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues), George North (Northampton Saints), Leigh Halfpenny (Cardiff Blues), Liam Williams (Scarlets).

2. Scotland

Forwards: John Beattie (Montpellier), Kelly Brown (Saracens), Geoff Cross, David Denton, Alasdair Dickinson, Ross Ford (all Edinburgh Rugby), Chris Fusaro (Glasgow Warriors), Grant Gilchrist (Edinburgh Rugby), Ryan Grant, Jonny Gray (both Glasgow Warriors), Richie Gray (Castres), Jim Hamilton (Montpellier), Robert Harley (Glasgow Warriors), Scott Lawson (Newcastle Falcons), Kieran Low (London Irish), Moray Low, Pat MacArthur (both Glasgow Warriors), Ross Rennie (Edinburgh Rugby) Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan), Tim Swinson and Ryan Wilson (both Glasgow Warriors).

Backs: Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors), Nick De Luca (Edinburgh Rugby), Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors), Max Evans (Castres), Dougie Fife (Edinburgh Rugby), Stuart Hogg, Ruaridh Jackson, Sean Lamont (all Glasgow Warriors), Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby), Sean Maitland (Glasgow Warriors), Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby), Tommy Seymour (Glasgow Warriors), Duncan Taylor (Saracens), Greig Tonks (Edinburgh Rugby) and Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors).

B. Previous Form

9 March 2013, Murrayfield
18 – 28 to Wales

12 February 2012, Millennium Stadium
27 – 13 to Wales

12 February 2011, Murrayfield
6 – 24 to Wales

13 February 2010, Millennium Stadium
31 – 24 to Wales

8 February 2009, Murrayfield
13 – 26 to Wales

9 February 2008, Millennium Stadium
30 – 15 to Wales

10 February 2007, Murrayfield
21 – 9 to Scotland

12 February 2006, Millennium Stadium
28 – 18 to Wales

13 March 2005, Murrayfield
22 – 46 to Wales

14 February 2004, Millennium Stadium
23 – 10 to Wales

30 August 2003, Millennium Stadium
23 – 9 to Wales (2003 Rugby World Cup preparatory game)

8 March 2003, Murrayfield
30 – 22 to Scotland

6 April 2002, Millennium Stadium
22 – 27 to Scotland

C. Teams

1. Wales
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15 Liam Williams (Scarlets)
14 Alex Cuthbert (Cardiff Blues)
13 Jonathan Davies (Scarlets)
12 Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro)
11 George North (Northampton Saints)
10 Dan Biggar (Ospreys)
09 Mike Phillips (Racing Metro)

01 Gethin Jenkins (Cardiff Blues)
02 Ken Owens (Scarlets)
03 Rhodri Jones (Scarlets)
04 Luke Charteris (Perpignan)
05 Alun Wyn Jones (Ospreys)
06 Dan Lydiate (Racing Metro)
07 Sam Warburton (CAPT – Cardiff Blues)
08 Taulupe Faletau (Newport Gwent Dragons)

Replacements:
16 Richard Hibbard (Ospreys)
17 Paul James (Bath Rugby)
18 Adam Jones (Ospreys)
19 Jake Ball (Scarlets)
20 Justin Tipuric (Ospreys)
21 Rhodri Williams (Scarlets)
22 Rhys Priestland (Scarlets)
23 James Hook (Perpignan)

2. Scotland
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15 Stuart Hogg (Glasgow Warriors)
14 Dougie Fife(Edinburgh Rugby)
13 Alex Dunbar (Glasgow Warriors) 7
12 Matt Scott (Edinburgh Rugby)
11 Max Evans (Castres)
10 Duncan Weir (Glasgow Warriors)
9 Greig Laidlaw (Edinburgh Rugby) vice-cpt

1 Ryan Grant (Glasgow Warriors)
2 Scott Lawson (Newcastle Falcons)
3 Geoff Cross (Edinburgh Rugby)
4 Richie Gray (Castres)
5 Jim Hamilton (Montpellier)
6 Ryan Wilson (Glasgow Warriors)
7 Kelly Brown (Saracens) captain
8 David Denton (Edinburgh Rugby)

Substitutes
16 Ross Ford (Edinburgh Rugby)
17 Alasdair Dickinson (Edinburgh Rugby)
18 Euan Murray (Worcester Warriors)
19 Tim Swinson (Glasgow Warriors)
20 Alasdair Strokosch (Perpignan)
21 Chris Cusiter (Glasgow Warriors)
22 Duncan Taylor (Saracens)
23 Jack Cuthbert (Edinburgh Rugby)


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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:22 pm

Great shot of SJ there... He looks dejected, I hope Vern does a much better job than he has.

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Post by Guest Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:23 pm

Both times Priestland has had the ball hes just been smashed

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:23 pm

Fair play what a finish by Williams...as long as no one was offside.


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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:23 pm

What a kick by Hook clap

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:24 pm

Finally Wales score again. Williams has had a great debut but he will have a few tougher games I suspect.

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Post by RDW Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:24 pm

Tell you what - if it was a Wales player sent off there would be absolutely no chance that Scotland would have scored so many points.

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:24 pm

wow

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Post by Pal Joey Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:24 pm

They've done well to stem the haemorraging of points in the second half.

Wales have shown that there is still a lot to look forward to after last week. Probably took the pressure off and let them play their natural game. They are still a very, very good side (despite what others might say)... they just need to play with the same intensity against SA in a few months time.

Try!!! Nice regather and put down... on the side of his face!  Very Happy 

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:25 pm

That was a great finish.

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Post by Pal Joey Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:26 pm

Cari wrote:That was a great finish.

I see his teeth are all still there.  Laugh 

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:27 pm

Liam Williams is MOTM.

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Post by Notch Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:28 pm

Who do Scotland have on their Summer Tour? And will Vern Cotter be in charge for that?
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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:28 pm

Scotland really have hit a low patch. Where do they go from here?


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Post by Cari Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:28 pm

ooh that was a lovely pass by Hook! Why wasn't he picked sooner?

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Post by Pal Joey Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:29 pm

Notch wrote:Who do Scotland have on their Summer Tour? And will Vern Cotter be in charge for that?

Canada, Argentina and SA... I think. Vern will be in charge.


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Post by Scratch Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:30 pm

What is refreshingly different about wales is that they are hungry, haven't sat on a massive winning margin but still trying to score tries

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Post by RDW Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:31 pm

USA, Canada, Argentina then SA

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:32 pm

awww and Scotland fluff their last good chance. Sad

Wales get a record breaking (against Scotland) win.

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Post by Nachos Jones Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:32 pm

Well done Wales, now for the main event Very Happy

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:33 pm

Clinical stuff from wales.

amazing win

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:33 pm

Did Ross Harries just call North St George?!

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Post by WELL-PAST-IT Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:37 pm

Cari wrote:Did Ross Harries just call North St George?!

Well he is English
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Post by rainbow-warrior Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:39 pm

Some selection problems for Gatland but that 1st half picks itself I think. 1/2 penny instead of Cuthburt only change I would make.
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Post by rainbow-warrior Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:40 pm

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:
Cari wrote:Did Ross Harries just call North St George?!

Well he is English

Yeah, pop up to Llangefni and tell George that. Then Run 
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Post by Taffineastbourne Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:40 pm

WELL-PAST-IT wrote:
Cari wrote:Did Ross Harries just call North St George?!

Well he is English
St George wasn't English!

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:43 pm

Anyway, well done Wales. Commiserations Scotland.

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Post by GLove39 Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:44 pm

Frak. That was utterly humiliating. It's been a terrible season, Italy win aside, and the future looks grim.

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Post by Taffineastbourne Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:47 pm

GLove39 wrote:Frak. That was utterly humiliating. It's been a terrible season, Italy win aside, and the future looks grim.
The present isn't crash hot either!

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Post by trebellbobaggins Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:48 pm

Wales can take something from this. Scotland really are in the doldrums now.

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Post by Pal Joey Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:50 pm

Well congratulations to Wales... and their loyal fans on here. That was a thoroughly emphatic win.
 clap  Ale  Ale   and some cake  coffee for Cari.

Commiserations to RDW, GC, ASBO and Co.  Hug 
Hopefully when you expel that Aussie fool you'll be looking upwards again.
(I feel so embarrassed.... no team, let alone a national one deserves that)

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Post by demosthenes Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:56 pm

Cari wrote:Ha!  Top Irish fan there with the sign saying "I've been here three days, and I still haven't seen the Eiffel Tower".

Biggest laugh of the day. At least gave us here in a Glasgow rugby club some light relief!

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Post by Nematode Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:07 pm

Well I'm turning my back on Scottish Rugby. There have been no positives at all in recent years and this is the icing on the cake. If this had been Murrayfield after half time there'd have only been a few thousand Welsh left, seriously. We're a laughing stock and really should let Georgia take our place. There comes a time when enough is just enough.

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:11 pm

Does Duncan Weir struggle with the concept of an overlap? That's 2 matches in a row where he's just had to put it through the hands to give us a good chance of scoring a try but he's panicked and done something daft. Bit of a worry, as you'd tend to forgive young, inexperienced players for mistakes but in return you really expect to see evidence that they learn from those mistakes

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Post by Scratch Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:13 pm

Fans don't turn their back Nematode, look at that awesome guy leading your anthem in the crowd, must have shelled out to travel/ticket/hotel....still smiling and behind the boys, when the team is under the cosh that is when a real fan stands up.

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Post by Knowsit17 Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:19 pm

All I can say to Scottish fans at this point is hang in there. I know it's hard... and yes, I would be wallowing in despair too if that was Wales losing in such fashion. It's times like these that test your duty as a supporter.

Not a bad home record for Wales in the last 2 years: record wins over England, France and now Scotland!

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:21 pm

Scratch wrote:Fans don't turn their back Nematode

I don't agree, why should we blindly follow the omni-shambles that is Scottish rugby.

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Post by Scratch Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:25 pm

cakeordeath wrote:
Scratch wrote:Fans don't turn their back Nematode

I don't agree, why should we blindly follow the omni-shambles that is Scottish rugby.

Because FANS will bring it back. There is an unwritten covenant as a fan, you enjoy the good times and stick it when it's bad, leave in droves and your sport will dissolve in front of your eyes and it will be you as much as the management who contributed to it

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Post by Nematode Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:29 pm

The fact is this has happened again and again. "Bye Scotland. Oh ok then, I'll give you another try..." Call me a glory hunter for jumping ship, a disloyal, poor fan, but this is the final straw. #lackingclue Who have we beaten in the past years? Italy, Japan, ...? Enough's enough.

Given there's people and players earning 6 figure sums - and will continue to do so - in the SRU, I'm no longer handing over my hard-earned £20 for a ticket, extortionate amounts for food and a fare to go through this.

There's been NO progress. Unless Scottish fans boycott Murrayfield they'll be no change in the SRU setup and we'll fall even further.

Put it this way. You can continue the misery, continue foreign fans being more vocal at Murrayfield and wasting away your money OR you can go down to the pub with your mates and i) have a good chat ii) watch the big boys play proper rugby.


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Post by Nematode Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:29 pm

Scratch wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
Scratch wrote:Fans don't turn their back Nematode

I don't agree, why should we blindly follow the omni-shambles that is Scottish rugby.

Because FANS will bring it back. There is an unwritten covenant as a fan, you enjoy the good times and stick it when it's bad, leave in droves and your sport will dissolve in front of your eyes and it will be you as much as the management who contributed to it

What good times  mad 

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Post by Nematode Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:30 pm

*sorry, computer lag = repost

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:32 pm

Scratch wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
Scratch wrote:Fans don't turn their back Nematode

I don't agree, why should we blindly follow the omni-shambles that is Scottish rugby.

Because FANS will bring it back. There is an unwritten covenant as a fan, you enjoy the good times and stick it when it's bad, leave in droves and your sport will dissolve in front of your eyes and it will be you as much as the management who contributed to it

I like to think of it as this. I invest my time (watching games, travelling) and money (tickets, rugby subs etc) in watching Scotland. In return I expect the SRU to properly manage the team and the players to play to an acceptable level. This hasn't happened for years.

We don't deserve to be in the 6 Nations. Not because of this years results, but because of the continued mismanagement of the game in Scotland. Rugby in Scotland is dying a long slow painful death.

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Post by Scratch Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:32 pm

Nematode wrote:
Scratch wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
Scratch wrote:Fans don't turn their back Nematode

I don't agree, why should we blindly follow the omni-shambles that is Scottish rugby.

Because FANS will bring it back. There is an unwritten covenant as a fan, you enjoy the good times and stick it when it's bad, leave in droves and your sport will dissolve in front of your eyes and it will be you as much as the management who contributed to it

What good times  mad 

Not judging you mate, just saying STICK IT, all sides come good eventually, look at Wales!!!

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Post by Nematode Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:35 pm

Look at the match stats though...

Scotland Possession: 55%
" " Territory: 58%
 Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Nematode Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:37 pm

Wales v Scotland, 15 March - Page 10 Picard-facepalm-o

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Post by TheMildlyFranticLlama Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:41 pm

Unfortunately in this case there is only 1 stat that counts:

red cards 0 : 1

Most sides would struggle to capitalise on possession and territory when playing for 60 minutes with a man down

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Post by George Carlin Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:42 pm

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:44 pm

George Carlin wrote:Back from the shops now. What did I miss?

The Scotland team cost me 3 packs of grass fed rib-eye steaks.

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Post by Scratch Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:46 pm

cakeordeath wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Back from the shops now. What did I miss?

The Scotland team cost me 3 packs of grass fed rib-eye steaks.

They raising cattle on murrayfield too?

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Post by Cari Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:49 pm

Scratch wrote:
Nematode wrote:
Scratch wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
Scratch wrote:Fans don't turn their back Nematode

I don't agree, why should we blindly follow the omni-shambles that is Scottish rugby.

Because FANS will bring it back. There is an unwritten covenant as a fan, you enjoy the good times and stick it when it's bad, leave in droves and your sport will dissolve in front of your eyes and it will be you as much as the management who contributed to it

What good times  mad 

Not judging you mate, just saying STICK IT, all sides come good eventually, look at Wales!!!

Exactly. Some of us remember the late 90s/early 00s... *shudders*

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Post by cakeordeath Sat 15 Mar 2014, 5:51 pm

Scratch wrote:
cakeordeath wrote:
George Carlin wrote:Back from the shops now. What did I miss?

The Scotland team cost me 3 packs of grass fed rib-eye steaks.

They raising cattle on murrayfield too?


Yeah they swapped the donkeys for cattle  Run 

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