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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 12:22 pm

I love the old days..They were great...They weren't great when I was a kid..But they are now..Because we forget the Bad S**t...

We also forget that these guys in the old days fought to eat in hard times...To cloth and bring up their families...

I cannot believe in an age of multiple titles and manipulation of the rankings that these old fighters In a money orientated World and Sport wouldn't chase the easy buck..

Times have changed and not for the better...But and a big but Is that any top fighter would take advantage of the situation..

We are living in different times guys.......

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 24 Mar 2014, 12:24 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I love the old days..They were great...They weren't great when I was a kid..But they are now..Because we forget the Bad S**t...

We also forget that these guys in the old days fought to eat in hard times...To cloth and bring up their families...

I cannot believe in an age of multiple titles and manipulation of the rankings that these old  fighters In a money orientated World and Sport wouldn't chase the easy buck..

Times have changed and not for the better...But and a big but Is that any top fighter would take advantage of the situation..

We are living in different times guys.......

....and I cannot lie, no otha brotha can deny....
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Post by hazharrison Mon 24 Mar 2014, 12:36 pm

.....when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waist and a round thing in your face....

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 12:47 pm

Guys If you can earn £20 Million for fighting a good fighter...You fight a good fighter..

Haz ..He has Jack Johnson in his top 10 so he'll understand.

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Post by hazharrison Mon 24 Mar 2014, 12:59 pm

....you get sprung, wanna pull out your tough...'Cause you notice that butt was stuffed...

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:22 pm

Let's not argue...You get abusive with Hammer when he gets on top..

I like to make love not war...

You agree with my piece?? Hits the spot ??..

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Post by Strongback Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:25 pm

Trussy hasn't left the 80's until he throws out the Miami Vice suits and shaves off the porn star mustache.



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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:27 pm

Designer stubble.......

Never liked Miami vice although I liked another Tubbs..

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Post by hazharrison Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:27 pm

Then turn around! Stick it out! Even white boys got to shout....

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:28 pm

Hi Truss!

I agree that it makes sense for the fighter to take the big payday, but as fans what do we care whether they earn 20p or 20 mill?

We aren't benefiting from what they earn so I for one can see why people rip certain fighters for avoiding the big tests. After all, we (me personally) want to see them fight the best fighters and follow their careers. I don't want to follow their financial situation.

SO yes, agree with what you say it is understandable but its still annoying.
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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:33 pm

Silly but totally expected..

You are a writer...But ever since the Fury is God article..Your ink has run dry..

Let's hope you have something equally as good planned..

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:39 pm

Yawn...........another Mayweather article it is.

Literally any excuse to indulge your obsession......

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:43 pm

Why comment then ??

Silly billy

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:50 pm

This is a great article,

But I must say that some of the olden fighters were proud fighters and champions and might surprise you. 

Yes most fighters would chase the easy buck but Tommy Burns did not have to fight the menacing ''big smoke'' in Jack Johnson. He could have declined and at the time it would not have been seen as a shock decision.

Sugar Ray Robinson fought for 6 whole years without getting a title shot and therefore big money but he kept fighting and remained unbeaten assembling a remarkable WW record. He could have taken money for a dive as he was pressured to do so by the mob.

Carman Basilio did the same and achieved greatness the hard way.

My point is that these fighters fought for honor and prestige maybe not before money but on a par.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:52 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Silly but totally expected..

You are a writer...But ever since the Fury is God article..Your ink has run dry..

Let's hope you have something equally as good planned..

I seriously want to read this article haha. I have no idea what you're talking about!!!  Laugh 
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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:54 pm

Maybe its lost in all the Frampton is God articles I supposedly wrote  Very Happy Very Happy 
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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:55 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:This is a great article,


laughing ok ONETruss

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Post by hazharrison Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:57 pm

This is a great article.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:58 pm

I understand what TRUSS is saying about the times we live in where money rules but I can't remember a fight as brutally fought as say Limon v Chacon and they made far less then what fighters make today.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 24 Mar 2014, 1:58 pm

As good as my Fury is a God article?? If anyone can find it, can they please compare it too this one that Truss has graced us with?
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Post by catchweight Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:01 pm

Come gather round people, wherever you roam, and admit that the waters around you have grown......

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:01 pm

Tbh, Reborn, nobody will as I'm fairly certain I remember it and it wasn't written by you - it was by another guest author for v2 journal.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:03 pm

You remember that fawning Tyson article..

Twain-esque...I'd have given it the Pulitzer..

Yes Onetwo I knew you'd get it..

Roxbury brothers..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:06 pm

Toppy why keep commenting on a boring article..

Better served looking for a girlfriend..

Try the library..

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:06 pm

What was the point of commenting on this article if you all just want to chat about some silly article and not the topic in question?

good day guys.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:07 pm

Was talking to Reborn, not you, stop being so needy ONETruss....

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Post by hazharrison Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:09 pm

This is a great article.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:10 pm

Toppy have I ever told you that you bore me...

Guys I wrote this article in good faith..

Treat it with respect..

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:11 pm

Haz.....I'm glad you like it..

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Post by hazharrison Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:15 pm

Like it? I absolutely love it.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:16 pm

Have I upset you Haz..

Was Johnson at 8 and not 7 ??

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:17 pm

Ok, to answer the OP:

Yes, yesterday is different to today, and will likely be different to tomorrow.

No, does this excuse things like Floyd's cherry-picking or Ward's inactivity/disinterest in pushing himself.

You cannot just use 'times have changed' as an excuse to remove choosing the path of least resistance from an objective assessment/comparison of fighters past and present.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:22 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Ok, to answer the OP:

Yes, yesterday is different to today, and will likely be different to tomorrow.

No, does this excuse things like Floyd's cherry-picking or Ward's inactivity/disinterest in pushing himself.

You cannot just use 'times have changed' as an excuse to remove choosing the path of least resistance from an objective assessment/comparison of fighters past and present.

Sarcastic answer

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:24 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Ok, to answer the OP:

Yes, yesterday is different to today, and will likely be different to tomorrow.

No, does this excuse things like Floyd's cherry-picking or Ward's inactivity/disinterest in pushing himself.

You cannot just use 'times have changed' as an excuse to remove choosing the path of least resistance from an objective assessment/comparison of fighters past and present.

Sarcastic answer

How?

Where's the sarcasm, ONETruss??

The only sarcasm YOU may be reading into my response, 1-2, is simply a reflection of the OP itself.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:27 pm

Toppy is obsessed bless him..

This article was boring a minute ago.


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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:29 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Ok, to answer the OP:

Yes, yesterday is different to today, and will likely be different to tomorrow.

No, does this excuse things like Floyd's cherry-picking or Ward's inactivity/disinterest in pushing himself.

You cannot just use 'times have changed' as an excuse to remove choosing the path of least resistance from an objective assessment/comparison of fighters past and present.

Sarcastic answer

How?

Where's the sarcasm, ONETruss??

The only sarcasm YOU may be reading into my response, 1-2, is simply a reflection of the OP itself.


Yeah as I said sarcastic 

thanks for pointing out the bleeding obvious.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:31 pm

Fact is guys that If the oldies fought now they'd be doing the same thing..Or their Promoters would

Milking....


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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:31 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Toppy is obsessed bless him..

This article was boring a minute ago.


You asked for the article to be respected and people to respond rather than bicker, therefore I acquiesced.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:32 pm

Toppy calm down love...

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:32 pm

ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:
ONETWOFOREVER wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Ok, to answer the OP:

Yes, yesterday is different to today, and will likely be different to tomorrow.

No, does this excuse things like Floyd's cherry-picking or Ward's inactivity/disinterest in pushing himself.

You cannot just use 'times have changed' as an excuse to remove choosing the path of least resistance from an objective assessment/comparison of fighters past and present.

Sarcastic answer

How?

Where's the sarcasm, ONETruss??

The only sarcasm YOU may be reading into my response, 1-2, is simply a reflection of the OP itself.


Yeah as I said sarcastic 

thanks for pointing out the bleeding obvious.

Are you thanking me or the OP?

Because like I said, my response is only a reflection.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:33 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Toppy calm down love...

I am calm, you're the one that seems to be getting a bit hissy-fitty (as usual).

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:42 pm

There are some good boxing books in the library..

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:44 pm

Seems like these ''late arrivals'' to 606 boxing community have NO respect for us originators TRUSS.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:46 pm

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:There are some good boxing books in the library..

Not now they've all been closed down......

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:53 pm

We are connoisseurs Onetwo my old Roxbury buddy..

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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 2:55 pm

'We'? You mean 'Me, Myself and I'.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 3:05 pm

Apparently having an alias is an offence which is punished with banishment...

So let's keep it between us two, Toppy.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Mon 24 Mar 2014, 3:08 pm

To be honest Toppy the more Truss mentions it the more I want to read it....can someone please hook me up with the Fury is a God article PLEASE!!!!!
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Post by TopHat24/7 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 3:10 pm

Couldn't find it when I looked back.

But I'm sure I commented on it, in the last couple of months, so try just searching my posting history.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 24 Mar 2014, 3:11 pm

Shouldn't take long..Nothing of substance in there.

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