Degale unveiled by Matchroom

by **Seanusarrilius** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 1:58 pm

Link here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXm6TxC7JQA

So please for Degale. Not a huge fan, but he deserves the chance to at least see how big he can get.

He is going to be on Froch v Groves undercard and no doubt Eddie will get him a shot at the winner.

Smart move, Eddie.

by neilodonnell Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:02 pm

More likely the loser, no?

by Guest Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:05 pm

More fuel for the lavatory attendant STRONGBACK to further his claim that Eddie Hearn is an evil mastermind.

Aye, taking a fighter from relative obscurity (the destination for most Fat Mick fighters) to a place on the undercard of the biggest British fight in history. That Eddie Hearn, he's a wrong 'un!!

by **Seanusarrilius** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:07 pm

Seanusarrilius wrote:Link here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXm6TxC7JQA

So pleased for Degale. Not a huge fan, but he deserves the chance to at least see how big he can get.

He is going to be on Froch v Groves undercard and no doubt Eddie will get him a shot at the winner.

Smart move, Eddie.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:07 pm

Interestingly it's an IBF eliminator and if he wins will face the winner of Froch vs Groves. So there you go....one fight with Matchroom, fights on a massive card and can be headlining a PPV card in the following fight.

Fat Mick must be crying into his kebab that he bought from the supermarket that held DeGales last fight

by TopHat24/7 Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:08 pm

Good move for JdG, not a fan but his talent shouldn't be exhibited in front of a few hundred people at a shopping centre/leisure centre.

Hopefully Eddie moves him quick.

by Rowley Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:10 pm

As Reborn says Sky are reporting he is fighting the winner of Froch Groves. Good move all round if so, domestic fights can always sell, particularly if it is Groves who prevails and Degale will earn a lot more than he ever would against Bika you would have to think.

by smashingstormcrow Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:19 pm

If Froch wins I'd expect him to vacate and go for one last fight in the US, rather the fight the winner of Degale/Gonzales. Degale/Groves rematch could be interesting.

by Qoxiivi Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:33 pm

Would expect whoever wins from Groves/Froch to KO him. Groves more so than Froch, for some reason. Think Froch is a more winable fight for DeGale.

by Qoxiivi Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:40 pm

However, to add to that, good luck to him. Not my favourite fighter, but he's way better than just fighting in Bluewater. Who knows, perhaps some of his lackadaisical performances stem in part from being demotivated and uninspired by such a comparatively pedestrian predicament. Maybe he'll shine when given a fight and stage to really get his teeth into.

Having said that though, he really needs to shape up. He's not that hard to hit and spends a lot of time on the ropes. Both of these can be fixed though, but they'll need to be as I don't get the feeling he has (or ever will have) the power to deter world-level fighters from walking him down.

by TopHat24/7 Thu 10 Apr 2014, 2:42 pm

Now he just needs to get rid of that useless @rse-licking coach!!

by Soldier_Of_Fortune Thu 10 Apr 2014, 3:06 pm

Groves isn't with Matchroom though? So if he wins, he will probs a get a voluntary defence and probs doesn’t even have to fight DeGale

Its funny seeing DeGale coming back with his tail between his legs, sniffing round Groves feet for scraps.

Should have done it on his own and went after Bika.

by CallMeBenji Thu 10 Apr 2014, 3:21 pm

What do people think the odds will be of Hearn having a word in JDG's ear about ditching McDonnel and going over to, perhaps, Sims? I wouldn't be surprised if Sims is paying referral fees to Hearn !

Getting a new promoter is a huge step for JDG, however in order for him to be fully reinvigorated and fulfil this potential that has seemingly been bubbling under the surface for the past few years, I think he needs a new trainer with a new approach. He's had a slightly unjustifiable sense of entitlement ever since he's turned pro and I think that is largely down to McDonnell just being a yes man.

The loss to Groves did make him slightly more humble in terms of how he's perceived by the public but behind closed doors I suspect he's the same old Chunky as he was prior to the Groves loss.

by hazharrison Thu 10 Apr 2014, 3:40 pm

Why would the winner of Groves-Froch fight DeGale?

Groves would probably receive an invite from Ward, whilst Froch could take his pick from Kessler, Pascal, GGG/Chavez?

by catchweight Thu 10 Apr 2014, 3:50 pm

This is good news. DeGale is a good addition. Id like to see him fight Froch or Groves again. The time is right for DeGale to step up to the top level.

by Nico the gman Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:08 pm

Watching Degale of late I just don't he looks good enough to step up to top level and win.
Degale has been shook and hurt a few times and Froch and Groves wiil both fancy their chances of stopping or knocking him out,Degale doesn't look like he possesses great power either.

Wise move though for Degale providing he doesn't end up in some long drawn out legal battle that stalls him.

by **hampo17** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:22 pm

Wonder if Hennessy will push through with his threat of legal action then.

by catchweight Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:27 pm

If his legal action is as good as his promoting then we will never hear about it again.

by Rowley Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:29 pm

catchweight wrote:If his legal action is as good as his promoting then we will never hear about it again.

Ha very true, Eddie could hire superfly and still get off!

by **ShahenshahG** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:35 pm

Rowley wrote:
catchweight wrote:If his legal action is as good as his promoting then we will never hear about it again.

Ha very true, Eddie could hire superfly and still get off!

I'd have thought he'd have hired him for that express purpose.

by **hampo17** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:36 pm

CallMeBenji wrote:The loss to Groves did make him slightly more humble in terms of how he's perceived by the public but behind closed doors I suspect he's the same old Chunky as he was prior to the Groves loss.

We never knew what he was like behind closed doors in the first place Benji, speaking to people who've interviewed him he is a very approachable guy who has a lot of time for the fans when he's at events.

by Valero's Conscience Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:46 pm

Hennessy is done as a promoter on anything more than a regional scale.

Fury is an attraction however I get the idea it's more partnership with Team Fury.

The only other real talent is Kid Galahad and I don't ever see him crossing over to be a star.

by Rowley Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:52 pm

Said it the other day VC, Galahad fought in Sheffield the other week. I work in Sheffield and I did not even find out the fight was on until two days before. It was almost like he was trying to keep it a secret, would it kill him to put a few posters up. I feel for Mick as he does seem to want to send his fighters down the right route, but he seriously lacks dynanism as a promoter.

by **superflyweight** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 4:58 pm

Rowley wrote:
catchweight wrote:If his legal action is as good as his promoting then we will never hear about it again.

Ha very true, Eddie could hire superfly and still get off!

Up yours, jeff. Up yours.

by **hampo17** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 5:33 pm

by **superflyweight** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 7:57 pm

I see that Eddie Hearn had announced that the attendance for Froch v Groves has been increased to 80,000. Christ knows what kind if conspiracy theory Strongy will develop out of that bit of news.

by Rowley Thu 10 Apr 2014, 8:10 pm

Might be time to use the Barry caveat.

by **superflyweight** Thu 10 Apr 2014, 8:17 pm

Not yet, Jeff.

I'm guessing that it will be something along the lines of the capacity always being 80,000 and Eddie deliberately and publicly committing an act of fraud on a massive scale by saying it was 60,000, just to drive up demand for tickets. The authorities will ignore this because Eddie hypnotised them all using a Paul McKenna CD he picked up (stole) from a WH Smith in Romford in 1997.

Or some other nonsense.

by jimdig Thu 10 Apr 2014, 11:19 pm

Good move for DeGale, but his path forward should be a fight against bika. There is no way he fights either froch or groves next. If he beat bika it'd be marketable, in the absence of that he's just another amateur that never fulfilled his potential that groves beat ages ago.

by catchweight Thu 10 Apr 2014, 11:50 pm

Degale against the winner of Froch and Groves would probably be PPV here. Its a big fight.

by jimdig Fri 11 Apr 2014, 12:15 am

Yep, but DeGale against froch or groves is only a big fight because of froch or groves. Groves got a mention on eastenders tonight (or so my missus told me) Ok!

Hearn doesn't have options on groves, so can't guarantee a fight against him anyway. I suppose Hearn can market degales undercard bout as a final eliminator for the alphabelt, he seems capable of pulling any number of final eliminators out of thin air. Seeing as froch wanted nothing to do with groves in the first place, I can't see him as having much interest in taking on a guy like DeGale who brings only name recognition, risk and selling power of a couple of hundred tickets to the table.

Anyway I think DeGale moving to Hearn is a good career option, he can be brought back in from the wilderness, the British public can remember that he's only lost a close decision to groves. And he can get himself a big fight, in a proper venue.

by hazharrison Fri 11 Apr 2014, 8:30 am

catchweight wrote:Degale against the winner of Froch and Groves would probably be PPV here. Its a big fight.

On what basis? DeGale can't even fill a shopping centre -- how would he make for a PPV fight?

by huw Fri 11 Apr 2014, 9:13 am

Rowley wrote:Said it the other day VC, Galahad fought in Sheffield the other week. I work in Sheffield and I did not even find out the fight was on until two days before. It was almost like he was trying to keep it a secret, would it kill him to put a few posters up. I feel for Mick as he does seem to want to send his fighters down the right route, but he seriously lacks dynanism as a promoter.

Was this on C5 as well? Completely missed the fight and I like Galahad.

Hopefully he will be the next one off, seems to have great talent and worry it'll be wasted with Mick. Unfortunate as he seems like a decent enough bloke for a promoter.

by ONETWOFOREVER Fri 11 Apr 2014, 10:26 am

Rowley wrote:Said it the other day VC, Galahad fought in Sheffield the other week. I work in Sheffield and I did not even find out the fight was on until two days before. It was almost like he was trying to keep it a secret, would it kill him to put a few posters up. I feel for Mick as he does seem to want to send his fighters down the right route, but he seriously lacks dynanism as a promoter.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 11 Apr 2014, 10:35 am

Surprised DeGale didn't hold out for that big gig on the website that Froch fought Taylor on. He seemed so close

by catchweight Fri 11 Apr 2014, 10:45 am

hazharrison wrote:
catchweight wrote:Degale against the winner of Froch and Groves would probably be PPV here. Its a big fight.

On what basis? DeGale can't even fill a shopping centre -- how would he make for a PPV fight?

That was with Mick Hennessy fighting against opponents nobody had heard of.

by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Fri 11 Apr 2014, 11:00 am

I was a bit put off with Eddie Hearn at the presser yesterday (no, my account hasn't been hacked by Strongy!!)

But when DeGale was trying to talk about his fight coming up, Hearn kept interupting with "tell them about how you will fit into the Froch/Groves saga", "tell them who you want to fight out of Froch/Groves etc"

After seeing how DeGale can switch off, Hearn needs to be careful that DeGale doesn't blow it at Wembley. It seemed like Hearn was overly building DeGale as a shoe in to face the winner when he still has to overcome his next opponent. Fair play to DeGale, he did try to keep the subject on his next foe, telling the press that he can't look past him etc, but Eddie seemed determined to keep bring up Froch/Groves.

by Herman Jaeger Sun 13 Apr 2014, 8:11 am

Carl doesn't need DeSnoozeFest if he beats Georgey Groves. He should vacate and go and earn a few quid in America.

by tunes666 Sun 13 Apr 2014, 12:45 pm

jimdig wrote:Yep, but DeGale against froch or groves is only a big fight because of froch or groves.

Froch yes, but Groves is only a big name now because he too fought Froch for a world title, and it would be the same if Degale fought Froch or the guy who miight beat Froch.

Also Degale won a gold medal for the UK, to everyone knows who he is, which would also add interest, with him potentially being the first Brit gold medalist to go on to win a world title.

by tunes666 Sun 13 Apr 2014, 1:07 pm

I think this is a good move for Degale, With Mick he just seemed static. Whether Mick felt he was ready or not really was no longer relevant as he simply had to move forward and find out.

For me Degales weaknesses he has shown in recent fights are silly things that should be fixed, as he would show certain qualities in one round and then throw them out the window the next, whether this turns out to be a concentration issue or not I dont know.

But I get the feeling Hearn is not there to cover him in cotton wool, he knows he is due to step up to the plate and probably thinks, if Degale proves to be the cream then he has a great new fighter and if he falls short then thats that one done and dusted. That being said I think he needs a couple more tests before he goes for Froch, although I think Froch is feeling father time now.

I think if Degale does tighten up his defense and learns to take a round off with a more cautious technique then he had the tools to beat Groves and Froch.

I think his power is under rated and no one has been able to walk Degale down like people keep saying they can. The only time they have was the Mohoumadi fight where he struggled but still won, and Mohoumadi has since gone on to KO a Decent Light Heavyweight and is good fighter. But that being said Degale does not have the power to rely on alone, and sometimes its like he fights like his power will take care of it all. Floyd does not have huge power but because of his defense the power he does have is far more effective.

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