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Post by Strongback Fri 16 May 2014, 3:08 pm

Jimmy Wilde is the obvious choice but who else?

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Post by SugarWarrior Fri 16 May 2014, 3:11 pm

Nigel Benn  Smile 

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Post by SugarWarrior Fri 16 May 2014, 3:13 pm

Jim Watt has said on many occasion that Kel Brook has 'awesome power'.....dont know if that counts for anything!

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Post by Scottrf Fri 16 May 2014, 3:14 pm

Lennox Lewis wasn't a slouch in this department. Also Hamed and Wayne Alexander.

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Post by Seanusarrilius Fri 16 May 2014, 3:57 pm

Hamed
Benn

Both hit like mules. Lewis hit hard, but we don't know how much was due to him being a heavy. Benn at middle and Hamed in teeny weeny weight class, they sent people loopy!

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Post by Izzi Fri 16 May 2014, 4:27 pm

Calzaghe in his early days was a knockout artist until his hands went. And he started kissing his sister.

Haye must be up there surely? Love or loathe him he made a ruddy 7ft 270lb giant do the chicken dance... Among other examples.

Hamed I'm not sure is in the top 5, just my opinion that he was beyond awkward with his angles and that although he hit hard wasn't like he had opponents running away from him scared of getting hit. That and most of his oppo were complete pony.

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Post by milkyboy Fri 16 May 2014, 4:32 pm

Benn rolled them over early in his career and was clearly very heavy handed but was he that big a ko merchant at the top level? At middle perhaps but less so at super.

Wayne Alexander was a good shout, the tree felling of takaloo is a highlight reel favourite.

Pound for pound, herbie hide was a banger... Hardest hitting heavy riddick bowe faced apparently

Truss can come along and tell us who were the 'British great punchers'... It's like being a great puncher, but in a not very hard punching, small insignificant island kind of way.

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Post by Rowley Fri 16 May 2014, 4:36 pm

Hamed’s old trainer, Oscar Suarez, who also trained Acelino Freitas, himself no slouch in the punching department, was asked who hit the harder and his response was Hamed. He also said it was not even close. He said Freitas hit hard but like most fighters needed to get set to deliver his power. He said Naz could hit hard with his feet off the ground or going backwards, or when doing pretty much everything wrong. Appreciate Naz is not to everyone’s taste on here but don’t for a split second understate his power which was huge.

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Fri 16 May 2014, 4:42 pm

edit - numpty, missed the British bit!


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Post by Izzi Fri 16 May 2014, 4:43 pm

Rowls, Manny Steward once said he reckoned the body snatcher would be 50-50 against SRL, Duran, Hagler......

Just saying unless you had select few or so who'd each fought each other then it's obviously hard to gauge how hard they hit.

I may leave it alone as we know the soft spot you have for him...

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Post by TopHat24/7 Fri 16 May 2014, 5:01 pm

Or maybe you just don't know what you're talking about.......?

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Post by Nico the gman Fri 16 May 2014, 5:17 pm

Colin Jones could hit hard, and love him or loathe him Hamed could wallop.

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Post by Rowley Fri 16 May 2014, 5:19 pm

Good to see you back top hat.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 16 May 2014, 6:05 pm

I used to like a kid called Paul scrap Iron Ryan who always seemed to bang out or be banged out..

Just looked at his record and he was 25 wins and 23 by kayo.........

Kid could bang

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Fri 16 May 2014, 6:27 pm

Eubanks hit harder pound for pound then any British fighter.

Lets not forget he held back after Watson.

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Post by superflyweight Fri 16 May 2014, 7:12 pm

One-bomb. 

End of discussion.

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Post by hazharrison Fri 16 May 2014, 7:39 pm

Hamed for me.

Other fighters worth mentioning: Wayne Alexander, Ensley Bingham, Tony Sibson, Bruce Woodcock, Enzo Mac.

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Post by Champagne_Socialist Fri 16 May 2014, 9:34 pm

Haye's KO percentage is something like 90%

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 16 May 2014, 10:21 pm

Id go with top 5 of:

1. Haye
2. Benn
3. Hamed
4. Hide
5. Alexander

Honourable mentions go to:

Eubank
Froch
Groves (his shots hurt me when they land on Tele)

Honourable final Eliminator final final elimination of power punchers go to:

Kell Brook

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Post by mobilemaster8 Fri 16 May 2014, 10:23 pm

Enzo Mac is a good shout Haz....

Before the Haye bout anyway.....after that fight he seemed to be on the end of a few knockouts....very good ones like Olafabi.

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Post by SugarRayBray Fri 16 May 2014, 10:53 pm

Haye's power is a little overestimated, particularly at heavyweight. Much was made of the Valuev 'chicken dance'. To me he was caught momentarily off balance and was solid as a rock again moments after. Haye also landed pretty clean on the supposedly glass-jawed Wlad, and very little happened.
I think you have to judge it against the level of opposition and their chin levels. Hamed, for example, knocked out some tried and tested world-level fighters.

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 16 May 2014, 10:59 pm

Haye & Hamed are certainly good shouts. I also remember Wayne Alexander's utter devastating punch to take out Takaloo. Fearsome power.

Bruno had a pretty good wallop on him. Of his 40 wins, 2 went the distance. the rest were stopped.

Enzo could hit, but the hardest puncher? Hell no.

Gary Mason was a heavy handed guy too.

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Post by jimdig Fri 16 May 2014, 11:25 pm

Izzi wrote:Calzaghe in his early days was a knockout artist until his hands went. And he started kissing his sister.

Calzaghe kissing his sister? The penny isn't dropping for me on that one.

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Post by Strongback Fri 16 May 2014, 11:27 pm

jimdig wrote:
Izzi wrote:Calzaghe in his early days was a knockout artist until his hands went. And he started kissing his sister.

Calzaghe kissing his sister? The penny isn't dropping for me on that one.


Google it.

I'll warn you it's a bit disturbed.

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Post by jimdig Fri 16 May 2014, 11:41 pm

Strongback wrote:
jimdig wrote:
Izzi wrote:Calzaghe in his early days was a knockout artist until his hands went. And he started kissing his sister.

Calzaghe kissing his sister? The penny isn't dropping for me on that one.


Google it.

I'll warn you it's a bit disturbed.

Wow, no average joe.

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Post by 3fingers Sat 17 May 2014, 12:40 am

Haye
Naz
Lewis
benn

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Post by 3fingers Sat 17 May 2014, 12:51 am

Haye or naz are by far the hardest p4p British punches.

Haye iis one of the hardest p4p punches the planet has ever seen.

Forget about the power thrown in fights because that is dictated by tactics/opponent. Ask any coach, either pro or am, and the answer is the same; hayes power is insane!

I dont care what you think you know. I KNOW.

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Post by Mr Bounce Sat 17 May 2014, 9:30 am

Haye's power at cruiser was frightening. Haye's power at heavy is merely exciting. If he hit as hard as you say he does 3fingers, he surely would've obliterated all the heavies he's fought as soon as he connects. Just look at the difference between Ruiz's loss to Haye and to Tua. I think Tua probably hit harder...

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Post by Strongback Sat 17 May 2014, 11:14 am

There's no probably about Tua hitting harder. Tua had the most powerful left hook in the history of boxing..... blunt force trauma.

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Post by Rowley Sat 17 May 2014, 12:14 pm

If we happen to count him as British Fitzsimmons is worth a mention. Absolutely fearsome as a middleweight and carried enough power to take good fighters out at heavyweight.

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Post by 3fingers Sat 17 May 2014, 12:59 pm

Haye knocks ANYONE out with his BEST shot. Throwing THAT PUNCH in a contest is very different to throwing THAT PUNCH at the heavy bag.

I was listening to The Beta Band when I wrote my last comment hence the "I KNOW". I got a bit carried away with the song.

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 17 May 2014, 2:05 pm

Wilde's a pretty much nailed on No.1 but after that Hamed isn't a bad shout for 2nd.

How about some left field suggestions, Pyatt? I'm struggling to remember that ginger haired kid who bowled them over regularly but had little other talent or chin....

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Post by Rowley Sat 17 May 2014, 3:39 pm

Was that Richie Evatt happy?

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Post by Happytravelling Sat 17 May 2014, 4:14 pm

Yes, that's him. Just looked on Wiki for him. Very sad end!

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Post by Dipper Brown Sat 17 May 2014, 10:18 pm

Naz. Freakish power for a man his size, problem was he relied on it a bit too much for me. Flying in looking for the blockbuster finish when he should have shown a bit more patience. Fantastically exciting fighter nonetheless

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Mon 19 May 2014, 11:45 pm

Completely forgot about him until tonight but Paul Hodkinson is probably up there.

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Post by Steffan Tue 20 May 2014, 12:39 am

Jimmy Wilde

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Post by captain carrantuohil Tue 20 May 2014, 12:42 pm

Apart from Wilde, Benn and Hamed, already mentioned numerous times, I have a feeling that Jock McAvoy was the only British fighter to get into the all-time top 100 pound for pound punchers, as selected by The Ring a few years back. Great hitter and very overlooked fighter, probably a top 30 all-time candidate in UK p for p terms.

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Post by hogey Wed 21 May 2014, 2:48 pm

Hamed, Wilde and Fitz are the big 3 for me, from the less vaunted Mark Kaylor could ruin your evening pretty quick and Carl Thompson got himself out of jail more than once with a huge shot.

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Post by hogey Wed 21 May 2014, 2:55 pm

Like him or not Haye is a murderous puncher as well.

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Post by Herman Jaeger Wed 21 May 2014, 3:07 pm

Yeah I've nothing against Haye. That shot he took Chisora out with was a peach. Are we talking one shot power or are we talking accumulation? If it's the latter, then Randy Turpin probably deserves a mention.

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Post by Gentleman01 Wed 21 May 2014, 3:31 pm

Hamed was my first thought here - remember reading somewhere that Steward once remarked that taking Hamed on the pads was comparable to taking Tommy Hearns on the pads...

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Post by DirectView Wed 21 May 2014, 7:58 pm

David Haye wins hands down.  Very Happy 

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